Bangkok Reports

[Amjeck]

Also you fail to understand the subject is NOT what you or other can or cannot afford, but that you are stupid enough to pay a 50% or 100% more on the right price. Be that for a 1,000, 5.000, or 10,000 girl. Got it now Mr. "fuck the others" High Roller ?

It's more than that really. Guys just don't get it! The only power a man has over a woman is financial and physical. The only power woman have over men is their pussy and the law. Why readily hand over more power to a woman than needed? Why do you think that all westerners are flocking to asia to get laid? Because in their home countries they have no power over women. Women got them by the balls!

Now what we see happening in places like BKK is that the women are starting to have more and more power over the customers. Why? Because they've been spoiled by the "weak" men. Spoiling a woman has a horrible effect on them. It does no good! Nothing wrong paying a fair market value, but when you go above and beyond that it only fucks things up.

[Amjeck]

This tread should be called useless discussions on prices instead of Bangkok reports

Price is everything! The discussion is very valid. You don't like it, than keep your mouth shut!

[Run Mann]

You are not alone to think along those lines, Mr D!

I, for sure, do not monger thinking that I am here to protect the purchasing power of others. I monger for my own benefit, as, actually, everyone else does, but doesn't recognise. Could not give a damn if somebody else can't afford the price I pay. Their problem, not mine.

Topic has been exhausted many times already, but reignited every time some new members come up.

History has shown, not only in BKK, but everywhere, that so called "calls for unity" betwen mongers is an absolute waste of time. But everyone is free to campain in vain.

Excellent points but it's not really a call for unity as I don't believe the Forum price police really believe what they are parroting. There's more effective ways to try to keep prices low than droning on and on and spamming a sex forum to exhausion. The more I hear these cheap charlies whining about how much someone else pays the more I feel the urge to spoil the market, whatever that means. There was a time when this board was monitored and admin would have put this topic to bed, but those days are gone, viva la price wars!

[New Old Guy]

History has shown, not only in BKK, but everywhere, that so called "calls for unity" betwen mongers is an absolute waste of time. But everyone is free to campain in vain.

And you're free to fuel your need for appreciation by overpaying and be taken for a fool.

Also you fail to understand the subject is NOT what you or other can or cannot afford, but that you are stupid enough to pay a 50% or 100% more on the right price. Be that for a 1,000, 5.000, or 10,000 girl. Got it now Mr. "fuck the others" High Roller ?

[Dreams]

Define stunner.

Let people pay what they feel their service is worth. This is a subjective matter. It's not like buying a particular brand of car with all the cars on the lot having the exact same options. This topic has been done to death.

If you can't afford the rates, go back home. Come back when you have more money. Just don't blame other people for raising the rates. You are buying service not a car.

PS. No flame intended.

You are not alone to think along those lines, Mr D!

I, for sure, do not monger thinking that I am here to protect the purchasing power of others. I monger for my own benefit, as, actually, everyone else does, but doesn't recognise. Could not give a damn if somebody else can't afford the price I pay. Their problem, not mine.

Topic has been exhausted many times already, but reignited every time some new members come up.

History has shown, not only in BKK, but everywhere, that so called "calls for unity" betwen mongers is an absolute waste of time. But everyone is free to campain in vain.

[New Old Guy]

This tread should be called useless discussions on prices instead of Bangkok reports

? Far from useless, I want to know what others have negotiated and got for it, that is a very on-topic matter for a P4P forum!

[New Old Guy]

mr e. yes it's confusing at times but again if you read the many blogs and articles you will find how common is for thais to hit each other incessantly for money without caring about ever returning it. they simply use "peer pressure" until the subject gives in, otherwise they turn to the next one. i hang out with a girl here and admittedly we don't have too many subjects of conversation but one that invariably comes up is this other girl nit always asking to "borrow" 200 bahts from her, generally for booze. my girl has some money aside, i'm sure she told everyone, now she will be grilled forever!

but you see also, thais are not very attached to money either, at times i see them spending as if there is no tomorrow! i think what happens with your girl, is that since you two are going (i suppose) to discos where every other girl is paid for, it doesn't make any social sense for her to be seen paying, to the contrary that would have her taken as a fool. same story for pretending to get money from you, she wants to be accepted by these other great characters (may be the only friends she have?). it is very very hard for anyone to leave behind social behaviors, we the westerns are helped by logical thinking, in most cases they're not.

[Goatscrot]

Well, I am not awesome. I just know what I like and I know how to get it. I have my favorite 3 or 4 Go Go's (Baccara, Tilac, and Rainbow x) that I have been going to for the last 7 or 8 years. Every trip I scout out one or two new bars, but usually end up drawing from the same joints. Here is my standard operating procedure: first, I walk into one of my favorite bars and order a beer and pay for it so I am free to roam around. Then I size up the available talent. If I spot a girl to my liking I wait to see if she gives me a positive sign back like a smile or a friendly glance. Getting that, I then ask her over and buy her a drink. We talk, we flirt and I find out if she is into giving me a good time. Body language is the key. There should be a lot of touching & feeling and kissing. It ain't rocket science and it doesn't take more than one drink to find out what I want to know. If she passes the audition, we are on. If she doesn't pass the audition or I am still unsure, then I let her go and walk on. I haven't had a bad experience with a Go Go girl in a long time, so I must be doing it right.

I never use a ST hotel. I bring my girls back to my hotel. I stay in nice hotels. Why would I want to slum in a ST hotel? Back at my place, we can relax and the girls feel more at home and stay longer. I have booze in the refrigerator. I take my time and treat the girl like we are on a date. Afterwards, if I like the girl, I will take her back to her bar. I'll sit back and let her show me off to her friends and competitors. Yeah, I will buy a few rounds of drinks for her and a friend or two. I leave a tip for the waitress. Everybody is watching. I'll come back two or three times over the next week to ten days. You would be amazed at how friendly and receptive the girls get towards me by the end of my trip.

But don't get me wrong, I like soapy massage parlors too, but it is a different experience. Sometimes it feels like you are on the clock. Sometimes that's what I want, I. E. To just lay back, and be serviced & pampered by a very attractive girl. If I really like the girl, I will ask for her phone number in order to set up an outside date. Sometimes the parlor girls are better looking, sometimes not. In theory, service is more standardized and set at a high level, but every girl is an individual and personal chemistry is always variable. Certain establishments have higher prices than Nataree, along with nicer amenities and possibly better girls. On average, it costs 2700bt to 4000bt for a 90 minute session before drinks at the places I go to depending on the girl's classification. Luckily, I am usually attracted to girls in the lower to mid range price brackets. But there have been exceptions and I refuse to deny myself the company of a real stunner when I find one. Fuck it. I am talking 5000bt and higher.

So having a good time in Bangkok with quality girls is not cheap. I spend more or less 4000bt per night regardless of whether I go to a Soapy or a Go Go. If guys can do it for less with the same level of quality talent; I tip my hat to you.

Why would you want to visit a ST Hotel? Because you live in BKK and have a live in!

Also, I am not concerned with flirting with a girl in a go go. I want service. As I have said, I don't want a date, I want a professional who knows how to please.

There is a real difference between tourist and residents.

[New Old Guy]

Natty Bumpo, nice pics and intel!

The dolly-face (Ae?) makes me squeal inside just looking at her!

[Spider916]

This tread should be called useless discussions on prices instead of Bangkok reports

[Mr Enternational]

Just curious Mr. E. What was your girl's reaction to your logic?

She definitely understood. I reminded her of all that shit she had to put up with from her husband and all those days she had to get up and go to work. It's like she won the lottery that most girls in the farang industry only dream about. She met a farang, moved to Europe, got a regular job there, and made her own money. Now she was back to Thailand to [CodeWord140] it all away in the time frame of a couple of months and be back at square 1 again. The money she made was not just given to her. She worked hard for it and she was just going to give it away so easily. Maybe it's a social thing as New Old Guy was saying.

But another thing I can not figure out is when we are in the disco together she places an order for me and her even when I tell her I don't want anything. Then before the waitress comes back she sneaks the money to me where nobody can see so that I can pay the waitress. It just doesn't add up especially since it is supposed to cost more if the farang is paying.

She also told me not to tell her friend that I do not give her money. She said her friend thinks I give her 6K baht. For what or for what time period I have no idea, since I have never given her 1 baht and she never lets me pay for anything. The longer I'm here the more this place confuses the shit out of me.

[Goyave]

... On and Mini were from Baccara. (2000bt + 900 barfine). I barfined them both twice. And Aum, the prettiest of my Go Go friends who I found in Rainbow 1 (2000bt + 600 barfine). I found the stunner I was referring to earlier sitting by the bar in the lounge area at La Belle. She smiled at me and I was hooked. Normally I find the 'S' & 'G' category girls the most attractive there, but that night she was something else. I saw her, she smiled and I instantly wanted her. No one else would do. Her name was Ae and she is an 'X' girl. Later, I checked the website to see if I could download any of her pictures, but she is not listed...

We were speaking about prices and girls available in Bangkok, so, I won't comment on the other destinations you mentioned. Aum, On and Mini are really cute indeed (IMHO) and like I said to Der Tourist some time ago, I can understand when tourists are paying a bit more than the average going rates for such good-looking girls. The locals and many long-term residents can often get similar quality at a lower price, but at least, you have (IMHO) a good taste in women and as far as those 3 girls are concerned, you certainly did not pay indecent prices for substandard quality.

I don't know whether or not Ae (the X category girl at La Belle massage parlor) is really worth more than twice the price that you paid for Aum, On or Mini. You might actually have paid the price of a Ferrari to get a Ferrari in her case, but I can't say for sure, as I very seldom visit those upscale massage parlors nowadays (I'm already quite satisfied with the equivalent of Porsche and Mercedes-Benz cars that Thais and many long-term residents can get at a much cheaper price on the local P4P market).

[Member #4698]

Any chance to see (at least) one picture of those "5000 baht and higher" (ST or LT?) stunners, even fully clothed? If I am not mistaken, you have not posted any picture in the Thailand Photo Gallery so far. I have seen a few decent Asian girls from other countries among the pictures that you posted in other sections of this forum, but, IMHO (and with all due respect), you can easily get girls of similar quality for much less money in Bangkok (not even mentioning other cheaper destinations in the Land of Smiles).

Well yes and no. Hong Kong, Macau and even Manila have very high end places were the stunners will cost you more than $200. These cities also have much cheaper alternatives too like 37 Dundas in Hong Kong or Rogues Bar and Havana Café in Makati (2000p, LT). I had good times in these cities as well as AC (1500p, LT) and Penh ($20-$25) on my last trip. Especially in AC where I met up with a lot of nice girls in the smaller bars on Fields. I just go with the flow, but I do have a weakness for very pretty girls.

I am way behind in posting reports of my Feb-March trip to South East Asia. I will post detailed reports soon. Sadly, I don't have pictures of the 3 BKK Soapy massage girls I had sessions with. At the time, I felt too embarrassed to carry my camera around my neck to the massage parlor. Since then I have found a solution. Next trip, I will carry my camera inside a backpack and whip it out once I am alone with the girl in the room. Incidently, I don't have pictures of the 4 girls I had sessions with at Rio Sauna in Macau either and they were gorgeous Chinese girls. (2000hk, ST, the best PSE). And lastly and most stupidly, I forgot to bring my camera to the hotel room in Hong Kong where I met up with a Japanese 141 reservation girl, Suko, my first Japanese girl (1700hk, ST). Maybe I am cursed, but sometimes it seems the best looking ones (and or the most beaucoup ones) get away.

But I do have some pictures of three of my Go Go girls from my Feb trip. On and Mini were from Baccara. (2000bt + 900 barfine). I barfined them both twice. And Aum, the prettiest of my Go Go friends who I found in Rainbow 1 (2000bt + 600 barfine). I found the stunner I was referring to earlier sitting by the bar in the lounge area at La Belle. She smiled at me and I was hooked. Normally I find the 'S' & 'G' category girls the most attractive there, but that night she was something else. I saw her, she smiled and I instantly wanted her. No one else would do. Her name was Ae and she is an 'X' girl. Later, I checked the website to see if I could download any of her pictures, but she is not listed.

Looking back over my entire trip, the best looking girls were 2 of the 4 Rio Sauna Chinese girls and Ae from La Belle in BKK. But I had fun times with all the girls I hooked up with. There was not one bad experience. 27 girls in 45 days; Hong Kong, Macau, AC, Manila, Palawan, BKK, Penh, Macau and Hong Kong. The highlights were Palawan, Rio Sauna, Suko, Bangkok and my cherry trip to AC. I guess the whole damn trip was a highlight. I have been back home around a month now and I am bored and want to go back to Asia. I will post my trip reports soon.

[Rjsss212]

If you can't afford the rates, go back home. Come back when you have more money.

PS. No flame intended.

Brilliant!

[Goyave]

... But there have been exceptions and I refuse to deny myself the company of a real stunner when I find one. Fuck it. I am talking 5000bt and higher...

Any chance to see (at least) one picture of those "5000 baht and higher" (ST or LT?) stunners, even fully clothed? If I am not mistaken, you have not posted any picture in the Thailand Photo Gallery so far. I have seen a few decent Asian girls from other countries among the pictures that you posted in other sections of this forum, but, IMHO (and with all due respect), you can easily get girls of similar quality for much less money in Bangkok (not even mentioning other cheaper destinations in the Land of Smiles).