Bangkok Reports

[PinkPearl]

I am not usually one to comment about pricing but as you are staying another 9 nights in Bangkok, better let you in on the price structure:

Freelancers: Beergarden, Gullivers, Thermae = 1, 000 thb short time (for me it is 2 hours and 2 shots + Photos)

IME in recent years they generally ask 1500-2000 ST at Thermae, as several other reports I've read indicate. One hour if you're lucky. Though if you can find an ugly overweight TG there, she might go for 1K.

Street Meat: 500thb Short time and you can promise another 500 as tips for spectacular service so that they do it good.

What is Street Meat? SWs at Nana Car Park were typicly 1000 baht from 2007-2010, and I read a report the other day that said it is still that way. No surprise there.

Oil Massage: Extras are 500 HJ. 1000 BJ. 1500 FS.

Soapy: Depending on the Shop.

GoGo Bars: 1500 to 2000 ST. 2000 to 3000 LT (depending on the bar and the girl)

Beer Bars: 1000 to 1500 ST. 1500 to 2000 LT.

I won't comment on these as I never go there. Hopefully the info is more accurate than the above.

For your Beergarden Girl, you paid her 2500 thb for 500thb worth and while I know this is still cheaper than the US, overpaying that much won't make you pass for a nice guy but rather a mug.

The girl was a stunner in looks, so I'd say at least 1500 ST was reasonable, and extra for good service.

[NicFrenchy]

Went for about 40 minute's total. Just awesome! Total damage 2500 for ST, I know some may say this is more then I should of, but it felt right.

Thanks for your first report.

I am not usually one to comment about pricing but as you are staying another 9 nights in Bangkok, better let you in on the price structure:

Freelancers: Beergarden, Gullivers, Thermae = 1, 000 thb short time (for me it is 2 hours and 2 shots + Photos)

Street Meat: 500thb Short time and you can promise another 500 as tips for spectacular service so that they do it good.

Oil Massage: Extras are 500 HJ. 1000 BJ. 1500 FS.

Soapy: Depending on the Shop.

GoGo Bars: 1500 to 2000 ST. 2000 to 3000 LT (depending on the bar and the girl)

Beer Bars: 1000 to 1500 ST. 1500 to 2000 LT.

For your Beergarden Girl, you paid her 2500 thb for 500thb worth and while I know this is still cheaper than the US, overpaying that much won't make you pass for a nice guy but rather a mug.

[Duneslider6969]

Finally broke my Bangkok cherry. I don't know how to explain to you guys how valuable this website and your inputs have been. Thanks to all for the posts and info. I read every post before I got here. I felt real good about how things work. I landed around 8am in BKK after a 20 hour flight from LAX. Got to the hotel and washed off the 20 hour travel funk. It was still early morning so I started walking. Wanted to get a feel for were everything is at. The sky train is cool and cheap for a day pass. Found Nana and cowboy, places were empty, but I expected that. Ate some lunch at a good open air food vendor on Soi 7, I think? As I sat there I see a lot of girls entering the Beer Garden across the street. This is where I will try out all that I learned. Well it works just like you guys have stated. Walk into the beer garden and there are like 20 girls and 15 or so guys. All the girls are making eye contact and waving, found that I had to look away to keep the lower rated 5-7 girls from coming over. Nursed a coke for about 20 minutes checking out the girls. I did not expect much in that it was 2pm or so. But then I found a very cute and my type across the room. My rating puts her at age=26, body=9, face=9, a cups, but I like that. Made eye contact, she waved, I waved her over. She came and sat down, I said Hi, she said Hi, and then I asked here if she wanted to go to my hotel. I was horny and got right to the point. She accepted very enthusiastically. I will most likely do it slower next time. We catch a taxi back to the hotel. Just a note, have a map of where your hotel is if you can. The taxi driver can drive around a bit acting like they don't know were it is. Maybe they don't, maybe they do, just know where you are at. So I failed that test, but it only cost me 80 when it should have been about 40, what every. Anyways, back at the hotel every thing that I read about. These girls are great actors and I love it. Shower, BBBJ, DATY, dfk. 69 and all that, true GFE. Went for about 40 minute's total. Just awesome! Total damage 2500 for ST, I know some may say this is more then I should of, but it felt right. Plus if you look at how much we pay in the US for crap service that is not bad. I walked her out after we were done. She would have stayed if I wanted, but I don't like, am not so good at, the small talk thing. Going to try and get better at that this trip because I want to have one lucky girl stay the night. She never asked for any money the whole time which I though was cool. Even as we got dressed and started to leave, not a word about money. I am looking forward to the next 9 nights in Bangkok. Thanks guys for all of your great wisdom. I know for a fact that I would have been way lost in this city without your info.

Thanks

[NicFrenchy]

@nic: to avoid headaches you should be even more honest and tell them that not only is it just NSA sex, but you are having it with multiple girls. You will loose some who just can't accept it but some will be ok with it, and over time you'll get better at convincing them and you'll build a base of several girls who are perfectly fine with it. No more headaches or need for excuses.

Trust me, they know there is no way anything beyond sex can be had. But how can I stop them from having feelings?

For a non P4P girl, as much as they want NSA sex, somehow, they will feel something. So now I limit to 2 sex sessions max per girl.

[BionicMan]

interesting to read the annie's report below, as i've just got back to my hotel after a fairly [CodeWord140]-poor time there.

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i'll go back to annie's again because it has a great reputation, was well-organised, up-front and clean. i probably picked a dud and am willing to try again, but i left very disappointed.

you should have posted this in the annie's section of this forum.

aye, who manages the place, would read it and might pm you.

honestly, despite what people say that annie's is not really all inclusive, it is meant to be all inclusive and the tip is really a tip to be given afterwards (they might ask you for it anyhow)

but in the middle of the action in an all inclusive soapee, well, this is far too much and kills the mood.
it should be reported to annie's management or the mama-san

[PinkPearl]

@nic: to avoid headaches you should be even more honest and tell them that not only is it just NSA sex, but you are having it with multiple girls. You will loose some who just can't accept it but some will be ok with it, and over time you'll get better at convincing them and you'll build a base of several girls who are perfectly fine with it. No more headaches or need for excuses.

I doubt very many guys who enjoy the "hunt" as they often call it are upfront that they want NSA, let alone that they are doing it or want to do it with many women. Another point as food for thought on this subject that I was just reading is the following comment:

"I want to make a point about women who claim to want NSA sex because in my experience that's a lie too. They may claim to want just a romp in the sack but are really looking to trick a man into a relationship. Sometimes this tactic works, more often it does not, and either way brings on more heartache because it starts with a lie. Now that it's more socially acceptable for women to admit to being horny, NSA sex appears to be something younger women feel ok with asking for but I'm still convinced that it's just another (dishonest) avenue to the same goal. If there is an emotional connection and the sex is good, relationship is still the desired outcome. The exception would be married and bored or married and dissatified but even that will lead to a relationship. A different kind of relationship with different rules but a relationship just the same. I do not believe that women are (as a rule) able to overcome or ignore their most basic nature any more than a man is."

[Rocksoff]

Its simple. The Annies price is not really "all inclusive" despite what they say. So, no tip, no service.

That's not been my experience at all.

[Hermescali]

Going to spend time at this hotel. Does anyone have any experience if it is GF?

Lex

Its totally girl friendly. I entered with three, even no check of ID. Great rooms especially the balconies are great for whatever you want to do.

[Chill Out]

@nic: to avoid headaches you should be even more honest and tell them that not only is it just NSA sex, but you are having it with multiple girls. You will loose some who just can't accept it but some will be ok with it, and over time you'll get better at convincing them and you'll build a base of several girls who are perfectly fine with it. No more headaches or need for excuses.

[Syzygies]

Interesting to read the Annie's report below, as I've just got back to my hotel after a fairly [CodeWord140]-poor time there.

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It started with a request for a tip prior to blowing me. Yep, this was made somewhat in jest, but was repeated 4 or 5 times. Tiresome and unnecessary, really put me off. After a minute or so, she said she really wanted sex, so I obliged. A few mins of mish, a few doggy, then during a second session of mish she began to pull a pained face, saying she wanted me to come. WTF? I'm a mere 6 or so inches with a very average girth at best, and I really wasn't even nearly pounding away or anything.

Its simple. The Annies price is not really "all inclusive" despite what they say. So, no tip, no service. You should have just answered "of course a nice tip" to alleviate her concerns, so that her mind could get back to service.

Girls don't want to have sex for just taxi money.

Its not really so much about the place, its more about the girl and the chemistry.

[Syzygies]

I was happy yesterday because I found a girl on Tagged who was looking for Frendship only. After a few messages, we upgraded to Msn, and after a lot of laughs we opened the Cams. She went wild. Gave me a stip and masturbation show. She said she had never done that before and was really turned on. She is contemplating the idea of calling in Sick today so that I can visit her room.

All she wants is sex. She has no BF, does not want a Farang, she just wants pleasure.

Funny idea of meaning of "Friendship Only".

[NicFrenchy]

Going to spend time at this hotel. Does anyone have any experience if it is GF?

Lex

Maybe you could find the answer here if you even bothered searching a little and instead of posting in the wrong thread

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...Bangkok-Hotels

[Lex460]

Going to spend time at this hotel. Does anyone have any experience if it is GF?

Lex

[PinkPearl]

"there is nothing wrong with paying for sex but don't kid yourself that it is normal. it is not, regardless of where you are. dude seriously you need to reassess the way you view women. i can scarcely beliveve what you have written. . . man do thailand a favour and get it out of your head that every girl here is a hooker, please."

bowerboy, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. however you seem to have overlooked that the post you were replying to was in quotes. it was not my opinion, but that of a farang female sp. hence the request for feeback or comments. also, sherlock, as to every tg being a hooker, who would be so ignorant as to think that?

regarding the paying for sex not being "normal", i don't know what you are trying to say. prostitution is one of the oldest professions in the world, dating back to ancient times.

"prostitution is historically and culturally ubiquitous, [8][9] with every culture adopting their own standards and attitudes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prostitution

"prostitution as a profession has been around as long as there's been a recorded history, in some cultures prostitutes were considered valuable important members of society who held places of authority and had influence on the society of their day and surprisingly it's not all that long ago either. in italy in the time of the medici's courtesans were highly respected and had to be very well educated and highly intelligent to make their mark. in a lot of cultures young men were taken to "courtesans" in order to be trained and enter their lives as men."

in thailand i've heard it is common for young men to lose their virginity with an experienced courtesan.

"thai society has its own unique set of often contradictory sexual mores. visiting a prostitute or a paid mistress is not an uncommon, though not necessarily acceptable behavior, for men. many thai women, for example, believe the existence of prostitution actively reduces the incidence of [CodeWord123]. [9] among many thai people, there is a general attitude that prostitution has always been, and will always be, a part of the social fabric of thailand. [9]

"according to a 1996 study, the sexual urge of men is perceived by both thai men and women as being very much stronger than the sexual urge of women. where women are thought to be able to exercise control over their desires, the sexual urge of men is seen to be "a basic physiological need or instinct". it is also thought by both thai men and women that men need "an occasional variation in partners". as female infidelity is strongly frowned upon in thai society, and, according to a 1993 survey, sexual relationships for single women also meets disapproval by a majority of the thai population, premarital sex, casual sex and extramarital sex with prostitutes is accepted, expected and sometimes even encouraged for thai men, the latter being perceived as less threatening to a marriage over lasting relationships with a so-called "minor wife". [15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prostitution_in_thailand

finally, a few more quotes & a wrap:

"but we all pay for it in a round about way don't we? whisk them off to a swanky restaurant followed by entry into a club and not even the slightest whiff of a blowjob at the end of it all? clearly not spent enough! or got to 'know them' well enough is the oft used euphemism. so it's a few more dates of much of the same and then, finally, it's sex without ties or, if you're really unlucky, on condition of a relationship so you get baggage thrown in to the mix as an added extra! that is, of course, hyperbolic but then again is it really when you strip it all down to the bare bones of human interaction?

"in the unpredictable and sometimes baron world of 'dating', where the paragons of virtue can look down their noses from up on high at their moral inferiors who use the services of working women, it's perfectly feasible to spend the best part of the price of a new television set and receive nothing more than an ego battering for your trouble. with a hooker you'd get a ride and she'd at least have the good manners to pretend to like you."

"then again, anyone here ever been married? wives, the most expensive working girls. and they don't even do the business most of the time! i know a guy who worked out his wife cost him on average over £2000 per lack-lustre shag. and that was not mentioning the emotional cost of losing your home, kids, etc."

"they checked various figures length of average married frequncy of sex during the relationship, cost of being married and cost of divorce. in short they came up with a figure of how much it cost a man to be married and how often he had sex with his wife. the final figure came out just under 300 dollars for each sex act.

"i used to bargain with my husband towards the end, he would nag me so much to have sex, so i would say ok if you help me hang the washing out after! not actually paying for it in monetary terms but he paid for it none the less!"

"my friend used to have to shag her husband before he would 'let' her go for a girly night out."

"we all pay for sex in one way or another, it may not always be the coin of the realm we part with, sometimes its a new washing machine, sometimes a three piece suite, sometimes it even costs us a little pride or dignity, but lets face it a shag is a shag so lets just hope that whatever you are paying you get value for, just imagine giving up something even if it is just your time and energy for a snide ride, eeeeeew."

"i've heard of women using sex as a weapon because that's what that actually is. so what would you say if he said "i'll let you have sex if you help me repair the car"? same thing ain't it?"

"i think paying for sex is rational. by paying for sex, i get to have sex with attractive, intelligent women who wouldn't let me buy them a drink in a bar. so, fantasy fulfilled, i get to "bonk" the cute ladies and it costs about what i would spend failing to get sex from a bitter pof date my age."

as a middle aged guy i can pay the young hottie to do it immediately without any significant blabbing, relationship entanglements or feeling i'm leading someone down a path for my own ends that i'll probably cut off.

personally i prefer to pay for sex to an sp because it's less expensive. also much more convenient, hassle free, anonymous, to the point and with the clear understanding of being truly nsa.

in the end, though, whether you pay for sex before the fact to an sp, or pay at another time, through time spent / dating, dining & wining, child or spousal support, etc, who doesn't pay for it? and if all or even most do pay, then paying is the norm, iow "normal".

[Rocksoff]

I understand that 500 is what is part of the expected fee and not really a tip, so I gave her 1000, 500 for what was due and 500 for spectacular service. She seemed very happy with this.

I have also had mind-blowing experiences at Annies. I don't give big tips though, maybe 300 depending on the service. Last time I went, my favourite wasn't in the fishbowl as it was already quite late. Mamasan saw I wasn't biting and said there's still some more girls inside. We turned and there was my favourite coming down the corridor in her street clothes (denim shorts and t-shirt). When she saw me, her face lit up in a big smile and she ran to me and jumped into my arms. Seriously. I love to carry her around. And as regards enjoyment of sex, after getting my rocks off, she wouldn't rest before I'd done my duty by her as well, kissing and DATY and fingers.