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  1. #56648
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I got 1000 at both Billboard and Butterflies last year. Think Bunny mighta been 800 but could have been 1000. Not sure where the 2000 BF being referenced below would be. That's def way too high for BF.
    Some bars charge different barfine amounts depending on the time of the evening, weekend nights vs weekday nights, holidays and so on. I have known it to range from 700-800 baht on one night to 1,000-1,200 baht on another night in the same bar.

    There used to be Nana Plaza gogo bars that charged different barfine amounts for different girls. A two-tiered pricing system; 700 baht for "regular" girls and 1,500 baht for "special" girls. I don't know if that is done in any bars anymore. I actually liked that system. A "special" girl was not only a bit better looking than a "regular" girl but she also tended to agree upfront to BBFS+CIP while the "regular" girls rarely did. And her fee was no different than that of a "regular" girl. Only the barfine was higher. An additional 800 baht well worth paying, IMO.

    As I recall, Cowboy 2 gogo bar on Soi Cowboy used to charge a whopping 3,000 baht just for the barfine even during ordinary times. Neither of these conditions were decades ago. I'm talking about just a few years ago, pre Covid.

  2. #56647
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Not sure where the 2000 BF being referenced below would be. That's def way too high for BF.
    If you're referring to my upward range of a 2000 BF that's typical in BF in Pattaya. I don't think any Pattaya gogo bar still offers 1000 BF.

  3. #56646

    Bar Fine 1000

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Well last time I asked I think it was in February, I was quoted a thousand out of billboard. If your numbers are correct, I always enjoy a bar fine reduction not that I get all worked up over the $10 difference.
    Yeah I got 1000 at both Billboard and Butterflies last year. Think Bunny mighta been 800 but could have been 1000. Not sure where the 2000 BF being referenced below would be. That's def way too high for BF.

  4. #56645

    No Thai BJ Bars Give a Thought To Customer / Provider Positions

    Quote Originally Posted by PgReal  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I had similar experience as Horsetrader in 7-heaven but also in Madame Claude who also only seemed to have 3 or maybe 4 girls only which you had to pick from the computer on arrival.

    Better surroundings / decor than 7-heaven but equally I couldn't finish. Generalizing here of course but the younger girls can lack experience and technique. After about 30 minutes it was obvious to me it wasn't going to happen, she was getting frustrated and tired and was starting to take breaks. I felt sorry for her and made excuses that I was jet-lagged and it was ok etc.

    I think what doesn't work in Madame Claude's favor also is that the girls keep their clothes on (well mine did at least. She was a hot young thing) but they also put you almost lying flat on your back on a couch thing. I found it quite restrictive and it was kind of like 'lay there and don't move! It meant you didn't get much of a view of proceedings and it all lacked feeling if you know what I mean.

    In the regular MP's at least you can move around, get into different positions etc. That would be my preferred choice nowadays even if it's just OWO I am after or a quick fix. You can also generally see the girls in advance in a line up.
    My biggest gripe with BJ Bars is not one of them that I have been in has given the least bit of thought or consideration to what might actually improve the act for the customer or the provider. Unless the dude is fast on the trigger with a BJ under any conditions including straddling a picket fence in a wind storm, requiring a customer to lay flat on his back (oh great. He gets to stare at the ceiling during it) or sitting on a couch while the girl is kneeling on the floor is sure to lead to the girl complaining about having to stay in that position, neck, knee and lower back pains. Scrunched up in a ball on a bed is even worse. Angles are usually all wrong.

    It is one of the reasons I stopped bothering to go to BJ Bars. And the reports from my many fellow punter friends of being unable to finish due inevitably to some issue with the position he or she was confined to assuming for lack of a more BJ-accommodating set up is legion.

    Note to BJ Bar management; try giving a moment's thought to what might actually improve and accommodate a BJ to Completion session. I have a simple set up in my living room made up of perfectly ordinary and easily available furniture, a desk and an arm chair combo, that is more accommodating for the act than anything I have found in any BJ Bar. I sit on the desk and she sits in the arm chair between my legs facing me, my feet anchored on the arms of the chair.

    With that simple combo, she is not fighting gravity to support her upper body, not leaning on one elbow or another, not kneeling on a hard floor, has both hands free to assist the BJ and can work her magic between my legs where she and my legs belong for this act in the first place.

    I love getting BJs to Completion and can finish within 10 minutes with a set up like that. If I had to lay flat on my back, have her do it sideways, upside down or backwards, endure her inevitable complaints about her knees, neck and lower back hurting or the nonsense of her shifting from one elbow to the other as they do on a bed, I would never finish either and probably abort the mission after 20 minutes.

  5. #56644
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Bar fines 700 bahts in Billboard and Rainbow.

    Girls want 3000 to 4000 bahts short time.
    Well last time I asked I think it was in February, I was quoted a thousand out of billboard. If your numbers are correct, I always enjoy a bar fine reduction not that I get all worked up over the $10 difference.

  6. #56643
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Good first report, thanks for writing it. What you described is exactly what I experienced at 7-Heaven except for one minor detail, I couldn't finish. Her actual BJ technique was insufficient. After I failed, I immediately went to another shop and completed the task. My girl was named Green and she was sweet and absolutely beautiful.

    Upon arrival I was given a choice of 4 girls from the iPad. The next man was given a choice of 3. Then entered a group of 4 men. I was soon upstairs, but simple math says they had more customers than providers. I wouldn't be surprised if their large waiting room gets well used.
    Yes, I had similar experience as Horsetrader in 7-heaven but also in Madame Claude who also only seemed to have 3 or maybe 4 girls only which you had to pick from the computer on arrival.

    Better surroundings / decor than 7-heaven but equally I couldn't finish. Generalizing here of course but the younger girls can lack experience and technique. After about 30 minutes it was obvious to me it wasn't going to happen, she was getting frustrated and tired and was starting to take breaks. I felt sorry for her and made excuses that I was jet-lagged and it was ok etc.

    I think what doesn't work in Madame Claude's favor also is that the girls keep their clothes on (well mine did at least. She was a hot young thing) but they also put you almost lying flat on your back on a couch thing. I found it quite restrictive and it was kind of like 'lay there and don't move! It meant you didn't get much of a view of proceedings and it all lacked feeling if you know what I mean.

    In the regular MP's at least you can move around, get into different positions etc. That would be my preferred choice nowadays even if it's just OWO I am after or a quick fix. You can also generally see the girls in advance in a line up.

  7. #56642
    Quote Originally Posted by OldJack  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?
    The reason for a bar fine is since the lady will be away from the bar for a period of time, the bar is losing money they would have otherwise made from their cut of the cost of the drinks she would be hustling if she didn't leave with you.

    You might get around bar fines by arranging to meet the lady after work, but of course she might find a better deal before then and you're out in the cold. Or heat I guess. We're talking Bangkok.

  8. #56641

    Non Thai freelancers

    Hello Folks.

    I will be in Bangkok after few years Last I went was pre covid.

    Wanted to check where I can pick up Uzbek, Russian and other western girls mostly non thai.

    Which nightclubs do these girls hangout?

  9. #56640
    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferInd7  [View Original Post]
    Started my mongering journey in the land of smiles.
    Good first report, thanks for writing it. What you described is exactly what I experienced at 7-Heaven except for one minor detail, I couldn't finish. Her actual BJ technique was insufficient. After I failed, I immediately went to another shop and completed the task. My girl was named Green and she was sweet and absolutely beautiful.

    Upon arrival I was given a choice of 4 girls from the iPad. The next man was given a choice of 3. Then entered a group of 4 men. I was soon upstairs, but simple math says they had more customers than providers. I wouldn't be surprised if their large waiting room gets well used.

  10. #56639

    Bar fines nana plaza

    Bar fines 700 bahts in Billboard and Rainbow.

    Girls want 3000 to 4000 bahts short time.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldJack  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?

  11. #56638
    Quote Originally Posted by OldJack  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?
    You need to pay the gogo bar 1000 to 2000 baht to barfine the girl. That is the amount of money the bar receives. It is different for each gogo bar. Then you have to pay the girl 3000 baht for short time (1-2 hours). That's what the girl gets. So it's up to 5000 baht for 1+ hour with a gogo girl (137 USD, 128 euro, 109 pound).

  12. #56637
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Your best bet and largest selection would be the gogo bars in Nana and Cowboy. Hourly rate 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST. 2nd would be Thermae 2500-3000 per hour. Then there are the oilies near Phrom Phong. Hourly rate 2000+(.
    Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?

  13. #56636
    Quote Originally Posted by OldJack  [View Original Post]
    All I want to know is what's the sure shot way to find girls for FS that actually look pretty and are young and what would be their hourly rate?
    Your best bet and largest selection would be the gogo bars in Nana and Cowboy. Hourly rate 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST. 2nd would be Thermae 2500-3000 per hour. Then there are the oilies near Phrom Phong. Hourly rate 2000+(.

  14. #56635
    Quote Originally Posted by OldJack  [View Original Post]
    So first I came across Fiwfans with stunning looking girls and dirt cheat rates but after reading multiple posts on this forum all that excitement came crashing down particularly because how far from reality they actually look because of heavy photoshop usage and claiming to be much younger than they actually are.

    There are too many suggestions for soapy or massage parlour, thermae cafe and everything which has left me a bit confused.

    All I want to know is what's the sure shot way to find girls for FS that actually look pretty and are young and what would be their hourly rate?
    The Sure Shot way to get a pretty young girl is to go to Nana and buy one out of billboard or one of the other good clubs and it'll basically cost you 3 to 4,000 Baht for the hour. There you go. Please read the form for more details and how to do it.

  15. #56634
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Personally I'd say Thailand is still the best place to retire in SEA. Bangkok is also the most expensive place with a large mongering scene.

    For you and your criteria for girls though PP, Jakarta, and PI are way better options than Thailand (as long as you don't believe Gilolo's 99% of Thailand girls do BBFS).
    Yeah, despite it's commercial mongering flaws and negative trends, I still consider Thailand the best place to retire with Cambodia coming in a distant 2nd place. Nowhere else in SEA appeals to me as a long-term residence. Not the PI, not Jakarta although I still consider those 2 destinations great places to visit and have a good time which is another advantage of living nearby in LOS.

    Recently, I have fallen in love with Brazilian girls, and I am currently spending a lot of my time down there, but there is no way I want to live in samba land full time although hanging out there 3 or 4 months / year as I have been doing since covid is super fine with me.

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