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  1. #8056
    Quote Originally Posted by Giotto
    I think that most of the Thailand travelers coming only for cheap sex sadly will never have experiences with Thai women like the one you describe.

    Giotto
    You are making a very interesting point here.

    In Europe (or in the USA), but being a western european I know more about the situation here, prostitution are like restaurants, you have the cheap *****s who suck truck drivers on the motorway for 30 euros, you have (in germany or spain) the FKK *****s who suck for 50 or 60 euros, then you have the escorts and within the escorts you have entry level eastern european ladies are 150£ in London, or 200 euros in mainland europe, and you have high end escorts at 300£/€ per hours.

    In Thailand you have the street girls at 1500 baths, the MP girls at 1500 baths, you have the gogo girls from Nana or Soi Cowboy for about 2000 baths, you have the soapy girls at 2500 baths average and the sideliners / models from places like Emmanuelle or Poséidon.

    Of course there are a few internet escorts but it's been reported that it's mostly scam or revamped bar girls with a much higher price tag.

    Personnally, being used to european escort services, I would be interested to meet sexy open minded thai girls, who speak english fluent, and I'd be willing be spent more to spend a dinner date with those beauties you can see at Emporium or in any other mall of BKK.

    But it doesn't seem easy to come across such gems.

  2. #8055
    Quote Originally Posted by Fon Tok
    P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.
    Truer words were never spoken. That one pearl in those exquisite oysters makes the hunt worthwhiile.

  3. #8054
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck
    I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided.
    I know this happens. But I was affected by the fact that she was actually very visibly bruised on her neck and shoulders, she says by a previous customer. She wasn't trying to rush me, and we were taking quite long. When I did leave off the light, she became more affectionate, coming to cuddle up to me again. Also, she didn't know the hotel where we went, though it's just down the road from the bar. There were other things that made me think she's pretty green. So in this case I really don't think she's an operator.

    If I was less tired, hadn't had some beers, in short was infused with infectuous good humour instead of susceptible to despondence and self-loathing, I'm willing to believe it would have been possible to turn the session around.

  4. #8053
    Quote Originally Posted by Fon Tok
    P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.
    That's a different way to put it, but it's not far from the truth.

  5. #8052
    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce
    Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

    I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.
    I stayed at the Landmark last week and walked about two blocks to Nana Plaza. Watch out as the LB's will grope you trying to get to your wallet. I always keep my wallet in a front pocket and keep my hand on it.

    I would just ignore them and walk on. I saw one guy push a LB away, and was then hassled/shoved/yelled at by 3 of them.

    Hp

  6. #8051
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck
    ...I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided...
    There's probably a chapter in the well-read book, How to be a Bargirl for Dummies, on this behavioral strategy. I think there's a lot of women out there that play this game. It should not happen in a MP.

    One of the biggest disappointments that I've had in Bangkok was with a demure but flirty, Soi 33 bargirl who I actually wined and dined (without sex) for awhile before setting up an upmarket serviced apartment for us to stay at for a couple of nights. She was very pretty, had good manners, but was an absolute starfish in bed. Man, was I bummed. What a waste of time!

    The next night I went out and bar fined a cheap (but pretty) Patpong beer bar girl and enjoyed some of the best sex of my life. Go figure.

    P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.

  7. #8050
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy
    100% agree. If they are "shy and scared" about your big size, then send them back with no cash. It's not your girlfriend. No Honey=No Money!
    1000% agree...in the massage place, when i dont get what i have asked for, i usually call the papasan who gives me a new lady, and to be sure the young lady in question will get an earful from him for not treating the farang as par for the course....it was pretty funny one time, papasan came to the room, i'm still naked, sitting there and explaining to the guy that the provider wont let me DATY...he brought me a horny devil for round 2!

  8. #8049
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck
    I see.

    I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided. I'm not saying you were scammed, but one should be very assertive if this happens. I've seen quiet, scarred, shy "actresses" turn into full blown prostitutes after i've laid down the law after calling their bluff.
    100% agree. If they are "shy and scared" about your big size, then send them back with no cash. It's not your girlfriend. No Honey=No Money!

  9. #8048
    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce
    Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

    I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.
    Was wandering in Sukh last week and absolutely no problem.

    However my hotel was in Patpong area, and one morning was on Surowong to go to an ATM about 8am , got to ATM and theres a really scuzzy looking LB standing near to ATM. I got my money ( and paid the rip off Bht 150 fee !!) when the LB starts asking for money, with hands out, smiling pouting etc He/she was gross looking and starts coming close and Im thinking I have two options, ight or flight.

    Anyways, there were 3 jovial tuk tuk drivers sitting on a wall nearby. They could see my dilemna. 2 of them stood up, and gently told the LB to leave the farang alone. Problem solved.

  10. #8047

    Khao San Road?

    Is there any hobby fun going on in the Khao San Road area of Bangkok?

  11. #8046
    Quote Originally Posted by first lover
    the wellknown [CodeWord900] and ofcourse star of light are in my opinion the best bj-bars in bkk, but the next time i go to thailand my falang girlfriend want to go also and she wants to explore some of the kinky stuff that goes on in this wonderful city.

    so here is the question; do you know if [CodeWord900] and/or sol will cater to a falang girl? (to eat her pussy while i get blown)

    also we are open to other ideas that we can do out in town together..

    hope to hear from you?
    had very good experience in nanaplaza. went to some coyotee shows 2nd floor on the left, watched, smiled, talked. just sit and watch. some thai girl will come. had a nice 3some with my wife and a nice thai girl called pisamai. she showed us bangkok next day (went to a zoo and alligator farm). but once it got to "personal" we decided to stop and move forward to other bars.

    have fun!

    vandeta

  12. #8045
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksoff
    Well .. that part was up to me .. my dick got kinda discouraged by the course that the proceedings were taking and deflated. The girl was brave enough, willing to submit to my desires in spite of her discomfort, etc. In the end I had to make do with getting jerked off with my fingers up her. In the dark.
    I see.

    I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided. I'm not saying you were scammed, but one should be very assertive if this happens. I've seen quiet, scarred, shy "actresses" turn into full blown prostitutes after i've laid down the law after calling their bluff.

  13. #8044
    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce
    Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

    I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.
    Just say no. 99% of the time there is no problem from ladyboys. If you get propositioned just politely say no thanks. Or chat to them. Some of them are quire interesting to talk to, but it's worth stating that you 'only like girls' before you do so.

  14. #8043
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck
    Did you pay 1500 and not get sex?
    Well .. that part was up to me .. my dick got kinda discouraged by the course that the proceedings were taking and deflated. The girl was brave enough, willing to submit to my desires in spite of her discomfort, etc. In the end I had to make do with getting jerked off with my fingers up her. In the dark.

  15. #8042
    Quote Originally Posted by Payforplaybkk
    I've read with interest on this site about getting a "GFE (Girl Friend Experience)" during your session with a provider. Definitions vary. But to me that's someone who is enthusiastic, playful, and doesn't treat your time as mechanical or too professional. During my time in Bangkok, that's often been hard for me to get. Especially because I have a tendency to sit back and see what the girl does. There are times when I think someone new/inexperienced is better because they're less jaded and you can guide them, and other times when a more seasoned pro (I think Dao at Tulip) is preferable because I'm feeling too lazy or tired to take the lead.

    What I'm about to write isn't new or earth-shattering, and has been mentioned here before, but it really HIT me yesterday finally. I was at Nataree and was scanning the lineup of the sideliner women. If you've been there before, you know there are often dozens of them and very young. Much has been written that these women are often starfish and don't know what they're doing given their age. As I walked by many of the ladies and made eye contact, some looked at me while others stared into the distance. Some smiled and really wanted me to pick them. In the past, I would usually just choose the hottest one regardless. But last night I chose a girl who was very pretty but not the absolute best looking, but I liked that she looked at me, smiled, but didn't over do it.

    It ended up being one of the best sessions I've had. And in addition to picking a woman who smiled at me. I realized that setting the tone early in these sessions is really critical. From my experience, Thai women take their cues from you. If you're fun and playful, you'll often get that back in return. Before we even got started, I held this girl close, gave her a kiss, and a light back massage. When we started on the bed, I began taking care of her first with DATY. What I got back was an awesome BBBJ and a very enthusiastic and wild session. In fact, I think we went way over our time but she wasn't concerned.

    So the two lessons I finally learned yesterday are: 1) Pick a girl who also wants you. If she smiles or looks nicely towards you, that's your cue. Women have their types too and it's better to pick someone who wants to be with you. Even if she's not the very best looking or the one you initially had your eyes on. So this also means AVOID any place where a girl is picked for you. Ask to see a lineup. Don't go by photoshopped picture books, 2) Set the tone early if you want a GFE type experience. Holding hands in a nice way, kissing, light massages, washing her, drying her off with her towel, etc are good ways to signal that you care. And you're likely to get more in return.

    Very simple. But you really do get back what you put in.

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    I would agree 100%, although occasionally you do get girls who "choose" you just because they are excellent at doing that and making you feel like they have been waiting for you. I go to several massage places up on Petchaburi. I never take the papasan's advice, especially after they have told me certain things about the girls (how long they have worked, where they are from, etc) and then i've gone to the room and heard a completely different story. Sometimes the girls are a little worried at first when they see a farang has chosen them (i go to places frequented by 98% Thais/Asians), but once they hear i can speak some Thai with them, they loosen up, and you are dead right about making them feel good, you get it all back and then some.

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