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  1. #7741
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck
    Drop her like a bad habit and move on. There's far better fish in the sea!
    I'm sorry but, I could not have said it better!

    don't walk away..... RUN

    (Well, that's unless you want to take care of a baby that's not yours...)

    Let me tell you what the next steps are:

    You will have sex with her before you leave for Farangland, you will stay in touch with her via email... (don't give your phone#, and create a special email address for girls... ), after a few weeks of "I miss you so much..", her family will put pressure on her:

    - Brother wants a new motorcycle... ask the farang
    - Daddy wants a new TV... ask the farang
    - Mummy needs a new liver... ask the farang
    - Daughter needs money for school... ask the farang

    But you can't blame them... in asia, the person who has money is supposed to support the Family, you are a white boy= you are rich.

    Long Story short: Drop her.

  2. #7740

    Zinopin..............

    [QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Csun123,

    Hell you want to end up like Michael Jackson? Can't sleep! Have a glass of red wine and a cold tablet! You want to get a blood clot on your leg from sleeping the whole trip while in a Airplane.

    A top London teaching hospital (I can hear people saying "That's an oxymoron!") that has done DVT research for the WHO, have come up with a formulation by a cardiovascular surgeon of pycnogenol, extracted from pine bark, and ginger root which has shown in clinical trials to promote circulation to the extremities (not an alternative for vit V & C !) and reduce travel sickness.

    The product is called Zinopin, and is available from high- street pharmacies (Boots, Lloyds etc)

  3. #7739
    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Icarus

    She's divorced.. she has a baby from her X-marriage on 4 years.
    Then she starts to cry.
    She has worked in a hotel in Pattaya
    She took some medic-pills when we sat at the bar.

    Any thoughts? Just bring em to me.
    Drop her like a bad habit and move on. There's far better fish in the sea!

  4. #7738

    Looks, the 10 pt scale and personal preference

    Recently there has been some conversation about good looking girls and not so good looking girls. Specifically in reference to the 3-4 pt level out of Tulip. Some guys really dig Tulip and the personal service they find there. Others wouldn’t be caught dead in the place. It’s a matter of personal preference and taste. Some guys like Latinas, others like Asian babes. And some prefer young girls while others prefer more mature women. Large tits - small tits. Yada, yada, yada.

    I use a 3 pt scale. It is instinctual and works on all women. Be they Asian, European, Latina or African; working girls or amateurs; young or old; rich or poor. You can tell where a girl belongs on your personal 3 pt scale in a split second.

    Category 1 is a very rare category. It is the knockout “take your breath away” level - equal to a 9.5 to 10 on the 10 pt scale. It is the goddess level and very few women (IMHO) fall into this category. Some say this category is a myth. No, girls to whom I am referring actually exist, but in my entire life I have had sex with only a few of these women. And of course a goddess eats, drinks, farts, has bad morning breath, lies, cheats, and says boring things just like the rest of humanity.

    Category 2 is a large level – many girls fall into this. It is the “I would fuck her – I’d like to fuck her” category equal to a 5 to 8.5 on the 10 pt scale. One brief glance at a girl can be coming out of an elevator as I am going in, and I know if the girl is in this category.

    Category 3 is also a large category – many girls are in this one. It is the “I don’t think so” category equal to everything below a 5 on the 1 to 10 scale.

    Now here is the funny thing; a category 3 girl can become a category 2 girl if she is nice and you like her after you get to know her. Suddenly you notice she has a shapely ass or pleasing tits. These girls can give you great sex. This has happened to me a many times.

    Another interesting fact is category 1 and category 2 girls can drop down to category 3 if they are bitches, or boring, or bad in bed, or require too much maintenance. ect. This happens quite a lot too.

    So I guess my mama was right; “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” and also “beauty is only skin deep”. But hell, I am superficial mother***er and all else being equal, I prefer them pretty.

    P.S. I can’t say I don’t dig Latinas or European girls because I do, but for me personally, I prefer the Asian girls. They just blow me away. And I can’t say I don’t get turned on by girls with big breasts, but I prefer girls with more proportioned chests. And finally, I can’t say I won’t go for a more mature women, because once in a while I will have sex with a women in her 40’s, but most of the time I like them young and under 24.

    Life is ‘a moveable feast’. Ernest Hemingway.

    EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

  5. #7737

    An interesting night in Bangkok

    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy
    I'd say the chances are really high of you getting laid. I have had great success with non WG (as you call them).

    Just make sure you treat her nice (restaurant, movie, drinks...) you can also go and play some games with her, I know it's a little dumb for a first date but...somehow, the "fun" factor that gaming brings has been for me a very good "panties opener".

    If she's having fun with you, then she will follow you to your hotel room to have a drink (read: sex).
    So, I wrote before that this P4P game makes us think we can have who ever we want, and when I wrote this I was thinking on the girl that work in the restaurant. Its a 1000 Bath/night hotel. I checked out from LL (thanks Giotto for all talking) to get a flight to the south, but when no flight fit me (wallet) I decided to stay one-two more nights in a cheap hotel and now I ended up here. So at the breakfast (including) first morning I saw her and wrote my report about how we start think every lady is a go. Anyway, I had to stay one more night just to ask her out and see how it will end. She sad yes as I reported in an another report and we went out after her work.

    We went to Siam shopingcenter and I bought myself new shoes. I tryed to get something to her but she did not want anything. We eat dinner and went to see a movie in one of the Siam towers. We could chose between VIP 500 bath tickets or an onather salon for 120 bath/ticket. When 500 bath is the normal pay in my country for normal seats I wanted to try the VIP salon. She tought it was to much but I did not listen (hehe) and we went for the VIP. Wow, what a cinema!! But only farangs with Thaigirls heh..

    Anyway, shes holdning my hand and I ofcourse get a boner. Everything is fine it feels like im starting to fall in love. Then we go to a bar at for some drinks, make out but not real DFK but light DFK. Dont know if she just want to take it cool or its not the Thaiway to do this. She's divorced and we talk about our lives. Then.. boom.. she has a baby from her X-marriage on 4 years. Shes 25 btw. She really looks great and are sweet and not like a bargirl (not like that I have so much experiance about them but anyway it feels diffrent). So, Im like hm, what to do now. I say: okey, I did not expect this why did you not tell before when we talk at the dinner over our lives? She told me about almost everything beside her doughter. But I calm myself down and say: hey, im proud over you, you work hard in the restaurant and have to support your mother and child. She say like, now you think im a bad girl. Then I say (maybe foolish): every girl here in this bar that go with a farang they do that to surrviev and almost in every case ther is a child and family involved. I dont judge them, its just a way to survive. What I meant was that she should not feel bad about that she is a lonely mother without a suporting man and I would not judge her for that. Maybe a bad compere..

    Then she starts to cry. Tears falling and im like damn. What did I say! She says again when I ask whats wrong: you think im a bad girl.

    I calm her down and we kiss again and so on and then we take a taxi to her home were 5 others sleep and ofcourse have to wake up and come down and see on the farang. I mean, I would never live like they lived but I guess its the sad poor way to survive.

    She has worked in a hotel in Pattaya and sad that she never been with a farang before me. I sad, If you ever ever lie to me I walk away in one second and will not turn my head back. I will be gone in 2 seconds. Maybe hard to say but I just wanted to make clear that I will not accept any lies and cover ups and that I will never lie to her.

    A classic farang fall in love and poor girl takes advantage? I dont know, I just wanted to post this to you old farts that know, almost everything about Thailadys.

    She took some medic-pills when we sat at the bar. She sad that it was against sleepover and that she should woke in time and dont loke like a train had run over her in the morning. I dont know, I tried to read the name but it was to damn long. It feelt strange, but she is a very sweet girl. I dont know.

    I took a cab home and we will go out tonight again. No sex btw, and no problem with that. I can wait =)

    Any thoughts? Just bring em to me.

    (sorry for bad english, im to tierd and drunk to fix it, cheers!)

  6. #7736

    Latina vs. Thai-girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Artful
    The girls at Tulip are trained to a very high standard. You will consistently receive excellent service here. I am an experienced monger and I have not received the level of service and the consistentcy that Tulip offers anywhere else in the world. Really.
    BUT, and it doesn't get mentioned nearly enough on this board, the girls are ugly. Really. 3s and 4s in my opnion...
    I've gone there quite a number of times and have had pleasing service, but I would hardly say the best. Service is somewhat better at Eden or Devil's Den, and all three are fairly consistent. And I get better service than any of those places from freelancers all the time.

    As for appearance, while Tulip's girls are not beauties, they're a lot better than you describe. From your report it sounds like you have a strong preference for Latinas. Many guys who prefer Latin America don't like Thailand much. Conversely I must admit that I don't find many of the girls in the photo sections of the Latin American threads attractive.

    For guys who like Asian girls and aren't extremely picky about youth and perfection, some of the Tulip girls should be adequate.

    Thank you however for the excellent and informative report.

  7. #7735

    Freebies

    I would have to agree with the 50% score percentage with a couple of clarifications.

    1. The "free' sex often costs as much if not more than the P4P sex. After buying them drinks, food, a movie, and paying for the friend they are very likely to bring along....it often adds up to more than if you just bought a bar girl.

    That doesn't discourage me though. I enjoy the hunt and conquest.

    2. I ask out waitresses and sales clerks all the time. I'd say about 25% to 33% agree to a date. Remember, I'm 50 and the girls I ask out are usually over 25 but under 35 and always 8s, 9s, and 10s. I'd like to bang some sub-25 year old chicks, but I don't get a lot of response from them.

    3. I target the same age group in dateinasia.com

    4. I would say that regardless of the source of the date, about 25% screw me on the very first date. I'd say another 25% screw me on the 2nd date. I don't do the other 50%. I completely give up on a women if she doesn't screw me by the 2nd date. I'm not looking for a wife....I just want a piece of ass.

    My point is simple. Freebies are fun and easy. And if you get a good one, you can milk her for free sex every time you're back in town.

  8. #7734
    Quote Originally Posted by Artful
    Ok ok, I retract ugly, but I'm sticking with 3/10. I do think my assessment is valuable on this board, particularly for Tulip girls.
    Good job Art. You're absolutely right, the majority of Tulips' are below 5 in looks but 8+ in service. It's like their 'rooms', not a place to brag about but sufficient for two hrs shagging.

  9. #7733

    Looks

    I have found out when I first see a lady, I would judge her purely by her looks. I have rated some girls pretty low when I first met them however as I get to know them more and more, their rating would go up.

    I had one girl in China that was very plain but have a great body, personality and service. She gotten better looking in my eyes as time went on. Now when I get to China, I would have to book her a couple of days in advance because she was so popular with all her customers. But all good things must come to an end as she has gotten married to one of her customer and is no longer available. Now I am sad.

    That being said, how many of you guys have picked a beautiful girl for the night with bad attitude and service. I bet you couldn't wait to get rid of her and then thought, what did I ever see in that girl?

  10. #7732
    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside
    The DIA bedding rate for me is >50% so I would say it is not to bad.
    What age group? Girls from BKK?

  11. #7731

    Maybe I am a bit masochistic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Artful
    Ok ok, I retract ugly, but I'm sticking with 3/10. I do think my assessment is valuable on this board, particularly for Tulip girls. A newbie would read the reviews of Tulip and, *** IMHO ***, not get a true perspective on the quality of girls there.

    Anyway, enough navel gazing.
    ....But everytime a guy writes a damning report which appears to me unfair, I feel the need to actually test the object of his demeaning.. That's how I can only thank The Pro for pointing out LL to me, and now Artful for pointing out to me Nice, whom I will certainly book when i go next. Thanks, guys.

  12. #7730
    Ok ok, I retract ugly, but I'm sticking with 3/10. I do think my assessment is valuable on this board, particularly for Tulip girls. A newbie would read the reviews of Tulip and, *** IMHO ***, not get a true perspective on the quality of girls there.

    Anyway, enough navel gazing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse1
    Agreed. Although it grates to say it, Artful has a right to express his opinion on a girl's appearance (whether she is a stunner or not), but I would certainly prefer more moderate language. Ugly is an unpleasant word, particularly in the context we are dealing with, and can have a damaging effect on the girl's prospects. Personally I think he is wrong in this case, and there are enough other (subjective) opinions to confirm my view, or at least to agree that we shouldn't use that word about specific individuals.

  13. #7729
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan
    The proper phased to use on this board is " she is not my type "
    Agreed. Although it grates to say it, Artful has a right to express his opinion on a girl's appearance (whether she is a stunner or not), but I would certainly prefer more moderate language. Ugly is an unpleasant word, particularly in the context we are dealing with, and can have a damaging effect on the girl's prospects. Personally I think he is wrong in this case, and there are enough other (subjective) opinions to confirm my view, or at least to agree that we shouldn't use that word about specific individuals.

  14. #7728
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy
    Well, that's a "nice" thing to say!

    How do you think it goes for these girls? you think their dream was to have a fat, sweaty ugly man lay and rub on top of them, force them to get a blowjob and then shove their dicks inside them and force them? add to this lack of hygiene, strong Body Odor.... I'm sure they love it!

    Look in the mirror before being so judgemental
    Well said NicFrenchy!

    Artful, Yes certainly you have a right to your opinion personally although this is a sex website very few have seen the word ugly on this board not even when they are writing about the girls on Beach Rd. in Pattaya. As you have a right to your opinions you should also be open and acceptable to others criticizing you when they disagreed with you since you brought up the topic of looks. When it comes to this subject which is so vast it certainly going to bring up a lenghty conversation to agree or not to agree.

    I have been with Nice, and I found her to have a certain quality about her not only in her looks but her personality which adds to my enjoyment being with her. To me she has a Fireplug body and gives me Fire in the sheets.

    See sometimes like NicFrenchy said look in the mirror! If we were all so perfect in every aspect WTF, are we doing at Tulip. The problem with Thailand is after a while here, some of us, like you start to believe the B.S the girls on the streets are feeding us " Handsome Man " it's a joke fellas!
    Ugly is good in my book! Butt Ugly is worse, but there are some that think that is good too!

    See you might think you are a 6, but there are people who think a 6 = U.G.L.Y. The proper phased to use on this board is " she is not my type "


    LBM

  15. #7727

    Date In Asia dating site

    I can't speak for the rest of Asia, but I have had fantastic success getting freebies from dateinasia.com, a totally free internet dating site. I'm sure there are some semi-pros on the site, but I've nailed 2 very sexy Bangkok girls from this site.

    Best of all, they were first date fucks. And really good fucks at that.

    Anybody have any good (or bad) experience with dateinasia.com? Or advice on how to maximize its effectiveness? In particular, I'd like to hear what kind of opening lines get the best response. Thanks.

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