Bangkok Reports

[Amjeck]

However I was just wondering what other positive and negative experiences, mongers have had with gals they have met online from "Tagged"?

Ive found that most of the undesirables and escorts are interested in farangs. Most of the hot young chicks aren't interested in meeting non-asians. I'd like to hear some more feedback also.

[Suntangh R]

Bionicman,

My one simple rule is to NOT SUFFER FOOLS. Its easy once you try. As soon as one is identified then I just turn it off and lock it out. I invite you to do the same because I think we now have a positive ID.

RJSS212

Don't loose heart so fast! Dont give up! If you can show the path, why not!

[Goatboy55]

i arrived at my hotel on soi 11 around 7.40 am - normally i have no problem checking in at this time, but this time the guy told me a room would not be available until 10am. what a king size pain in the ass.

i crossed sukhumvit into soi 8 more in hope than expectation but was delighted to see 6 [CodeWord900] girls sat outside the shop at 7.55am. picked one and had a half hour blow job that was actually pretty good. 'you first customer' said the girl. no shit.

after availing of the service i then got some breakfast further down the road before finally checking in.

i wasn't aware [CodeWord901]'s was open for business so early, but other mongers short of options in the early morn might like to consider it.

[Osakagin]

I recently signed up to the website "Tagged" (free of course) with the view of setting up some contacts with some Thai gals for the next time I visit the LOS in March next year.

I have made a few Thai gal "friends" online and even some making promising noises about hooking up with me next year.

However I was just wondering what other positive and negative experiences, mongers have had with gals they have met online from "Tagged"?

[Spider916]

Since a while I fancied little Miss number 15 at Tilac but she was always with the same guy. I managed to speak to her for a few minutes outside while having a smoke two weeks ago and give her my phone number. Recently she called me to tell me her bf would show up later but not before 10pm. So i met her near Asok around 6 and took her to my hotel for 2 hours of fun. She wasnt bad in the sack but nothing very special either. 2000 for ST. Overpaying? Maybe worth it imho.

[Mouse1]

LL and Annies.

Both of which are overpriced compared to other places, and both of which rely heavily on lazy first time USA visitors by making up a "fantasy" of appearing to be safe and good and helpful to first time visitors, more so than anywhere else, the ultimate safe place for first timers.

Even if this were true, I don't see the problem. There is value in having a safe landing for a first-timer.

My first experience of mongering (how I hate that word!) in Thailand was at Annie's, and it was a great introduction to the scene. I don't think I was lazy to go there, and I appreciated that it was 'safe and good and helpful'. I rarely go back there now because there is so much else on offer. On my second visit I went to check out LL, having heard so much about it. Actually I didn't like the place (not my taste, nothing wrong with it, including the price) so I didn't go there...

We can all make our choices, and I'm very grateful for Ms 22 and Ms 24 at Annie's (as well as Aey) for helping me on my way.

[Member #4537]

egypt etc. All those destination are much more cheaper then Thailand nowadays.

I fail to see how any location in Egypt (unless you refer to the slums) is 'cheaper' than Thailand in terms of food, accomodation and transport. Not to mention the lack of pussy.

[Rjsss212]

By the way, why are you so bothered to criticize places that you claim you have nothing to do with.
Do not like them? Do not go there
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Bionicman,

My one simple rule is to NOT SUFFER FOOLS. Its easy once you try. As soon as one is identified then I just turn it off and lock it out. I invite you to do the same because I think we now have a positive ID...

RJSS212

[The Pro]

tansak,

i hope you enjoyed your days off with round the clock action. thats what its all about.

yes, it would be great if people can express their opinions freely, if tulip posts are kept on the tulip threads, if annies posts are kept on the annies thread, if all references to ll are kept on the ll/giotto threads etc.

the seperate threads have been set up for a reason, so it would be nice if they were used, that way all those people who think that certain people are marketing their places would be proven wrong as all the chat about those places would be confined solely to the dedicated threads. now there is a thought.

the pro,

i'm sorry i took a few days off to have round the clock sex. i hope to post soon as they are good reports. i am not sure how much you know about ll and i really don't want to get into a fight match over this nor do i want to stoop to a low level.

i don't stay at ll, rarely do i stay there. this is because i have corporate accounts with other hotels, compass hospitality and ascott group and also dusit. work books my stay. i have no reason to post about the hotel if it was not true. ll is a home away from home for many of us as we can walk in and see the same people. when you travel for a living it is nice to walk into a place that knows what you drink, eat, like and dislike. this is what we get at ll.

obviously i go to soi 33 and i do go to livingstones. but i got to many bars on soi 33 as well as cowboy and others.

never have i been given a discount or promo to post reports about on ll. never has giotto asked me to post on any site. in fact he has often scolded me and gets mo ho to me because i am nothing but a wh@re and take many ladies out of the bar and get them to stop work :d . and trust me, with as many girls as i have taken out of the bar long time and they stopped working i know more abut ll then probably any person on this board. i probably know more about the operations then many of the staff. this has caused me issues, knowing too much and getting into the middle of internal ll drama and issues. so trust me that giotto never has asked people to post positive reports. his discount is only for posting, positive or negative and it reminds me that all my posts the bestard never gave me a discount.

at annies today there is a sign and i'll post a picture of the sign, if we liked our service to post about it, i'm sure everyone that has been to annies has seen it. aey took care of me also, she made a special request booking. this is all called good business from where i am from and i do the same to customers who come to my work.

giotto, the most he has ever done for me is let me leave my luggage at the front desk for a few days while i went out of town. the rest he has done as a friend of mine and it is all outside of work, through good and bad times he has stayed by my side as a friend, just like 1ball, nicfrenchy, and many many many other guys on isg.

what helps the hotel is not giotto.. he is a total arse at times and we disagree on many items and we have fought over many issues. the staff there is what helps ll. i'm sorry if you don't see this or saw this when you went there, but to me i could care less if giotto was there or not, it is 100% the staff, the same waitresses and cooks and such. the girls come and go. but the hotel staff, shit i've known some of them longer then i've known most the girls that stay with me. i know their families and their problems in life.

you are allowed your opinion. people will either like soi 33 or they will not. people will either like ll or they will not. obviously you do not. such is your decision. it is not for everyone. but for many of us, it is a nice place to go. as i said, soi 33 and ll has a place in bkk just like eden and [CodeWord900] and sol and beer garden.

cheers mate, let's have a drink sometime.

[BionicMan]

But why are they so "worried" about defending places which they claim they are nothing to do with.

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By the way, why are you so bothered to criticize places that you claim you have nothing to do with.
Do not like them? Do not go there
High prices? avoid them
There is no scam with an advertised price of 1000Bh that become 3000 the minute you check out (because the add up the liters of air you breath, the times you switch on or off the TV, the times you fill the bathtub or take a shower.
Do you think people here is so idiot not to read the average prices for average places and see the super expensive rate of LL for what LL gives to the customers? And still go there?
All paid back by Giotto with freebies? what is the rational in this, can you please tell us?
Thanks that are people ready to spend money for quality.
I have been at the LL in april and have not any discount or coupon and shall come back there in october.

Do you think I am writing this to qualify for an alleged coupon?
Will a bonus 1000Bh get me somewhere ? Shall I open a bank account in Liechtenstein?
So what's the point? Am I an idiot overspending?
Can it be my f**** business how I spend MY money?

Is going to a 4 or 5 or 5L hotel making the general local prices escalating?
be happy there is people going to upscale locations.
So the low price ones are not overbooked and you can enjoy last minute deals at low price.
Otherwise you will see those 2 stars charging high price for the simple reason of market demand.

Feel free to post ALl the prices you want, ALL the deals you make, that is INFORMATION
But refrain from judging HOW people spends his own money for whatever purpose.
As you do not like to be judged for the excess of number of girls you lay, do not judge if someone lays a girl a week and only when he is on holiday.
That's his f*** business and freedom to do so.

[Suntangh R]

Suntangh R.

You could get a job with a PR firm or a Spin Merchant.

Its not very clever to totally misrepresent someone by claiming they have done so many things and telling them not to.

Whilst we all appreciate the motives behind it (attempting to smear someones name by accusing them whether directly or not of many things) its really not a clever thing to do.

These forums are here for the help of people to monger.

They are not best served by those who attempt to sell or market their products and services, or those who accept "in kind" from their proprietors for name dropping all the time.

There are two establishments who utilise the method of "in kind" payment, or getting friends to post and name drop as much as possible, and this is LL and Annies.

Both of which are overpriced compared to other places, and both of which rely heavily on lazy first time USA visitors by making up a "fantasy" of appearing to be safe and good and helpful to first time visitors, more so than anywhere else, the ultimate safe place for first timers.

Now whilst its a good marketing trick to do this, its also in the interest of first time to Thailand mongers to tell them not to beleive the hype. These places whilst ok are not wonderful and for what you get they are not cheap, there is better value.

This is an opinion, mine and many others.

Now if you do not agree with it, then ignore it.

However as can be seen by reading the thread many people move onto personal comments and making up malicious posts and claims of things I have said. This is their only line of defence.

But why are they so "worried" about defending places which they claim they are nothing to do with.

There in lies the crux.

Keep all talk of Annies on the Annies thread, and all talk and namedropping of LL over at the LL thread and I am sure people like me would not feel the need to remind people that some people on here are posting to "market" some establishments.

The Pro!

I am not in the PR business, with my short fuse and good heart, it would be a misadventure.

Your grudge against Annies and LL is that they are overpriced. But then why do guys keep going back and back to them. In any enterprise you are going to have a small percentage that came back disappointed for various reasons; but the majority, and they are discerning folks mind you, return to these establishments. Your reasons are not convincing. A free beer, or a measly meal, is not going to make people sell their integrity. You can keep harping on this till the cows come back home, but I will not accept your reasons. Pro, there is a deeper grudge you bear! Its not helping you. It's eating your " innards" and that's not good for you. Even a doctor has failures, a lawyer loses cases, and so on.

Get rid of your bitterness. Wipe the Slate Clean- and start afresh! Go to LL and have a drink! Pay for it, Ok. It'll do everyone good!

I think with your experience, your posts should be INSTRUCTIVE, not DISRUPTIVE!

Tell us the1) best MPs, 2) the better girls, the ones who speak English etc, their aptitude, quirks etc 3) Which places to avoid for health reasons, 4) How to improve the performance, 5) shorten the refractory period etc., 6)MILF'S ETC

You have MUCH WORK to do!

But first, if you are a Solid Guy, spit out your anger; and start being Pleasant! Would like to see a Different The Pro!

[Member #3428]

the pro,

i'm sorry i took a few days off to have round the clock sex. i hope to post soon as they are good reports. i am not sure how much you know about ll and i really don't want to get into a fight match over this nor do i want to stoop to a low level.

i don't stay at ll, rarely do i stay there. this is because i have corporate accounts with other hotels, compass hospitality and ascott group and also dusit. work books my stay. i have no reason to post about the hotel if it was not true. ll is a home away from home for many of us as we can walk in and see the same people. when you travel for a living it is nice to walk into a place that knows what you drink, eat, like and dislike. this is what we get at ll.

obviously i go to soi 33 and i do go to livingstones. but i got to many bars on soi 33 as well as cowboy and others.

never have i been given a discount or promo to post reports about on ll. never has giotto asked me to post on any site. in fact he has often scolded me and gets mo ho to me because i am nothing but a wh@re and take many ladies out of the bar and get them to stop work :d . and trust me, with as many girls as i have taken out of the bar long time and they stopped working i know more abut ll then probably any person on this board. i probably know more about the operations then many of the staff. this has caused me issues, knowing too much and getting into the middle of internal ll drama and issues. so trust me that giotto never has asked people to post positive reports. his discount is only for posting, positive or negative and it reminds me that all my posts the bestard never gave me a discount.

at annies today there is a sign and i'll post a picture of the sign, if we liked our service to post about it, i'm sure everyone that has been to annies has seen it. aey took care of me also, she made a special request booking. this is all called good business from where i am from and i do the same to customers who come to my work.

giotto, the most he has ever done for me is let me leave my luggage at the front desk for a few days while i went out of town. the rest he has done as a friend of mine and it is all outside of work, through good and bad times he has stayed by my side as a friend, just like 1ball, nicfrenchy, and many many many other guys on isg.

what helps the hotel is not giotto.. he is a total arse at times and we disagree on many items and we have fought over many issues. the staff there is what helps ll. i'm sorry if you don't see this or saw this when you went there, but to me i could care less if giotto was there or not, it is 100% the staff, the same waitresses and cooks and such. the girls come and go. but the hotel staff, shit i've known some of them longer then i've known most the girls that stay with me. i know their families and their problems in life.

you are allowed your opinion. people will either like soi 33 or they will not. people will either like ll or they will not. obviously you do not. such is your decision. it is not for everyone. but for many of us, it is a nice place to go. as i said, soi 33 and ll has a place in bkk just like eden and [CodeWord900] and sol and beer garden.

cheers mate, let's have a drink sometime.

[Member #3428]

Isolated from what?

Not isolated that someone had BB sex at Tulip right away. I'll guarantee that there are a few of us who have BB sex there.

[Run Mann]

I am in the hotel business here in Thailand and my latest research (in france germany uk switzerland italy spain) why tourism is low is something like this.


The hight middel class was the main travelers to Thailand. Whats happen to them.

You're missing the fact that there's a worldwide economic recession in progress which is affecting most industries to include the Hotel industry. However, as with other cycles, the recession will eventually pivot into economic recovery which will result in an increase/return of the tourists your industry craves for survival.

[Jeff46]

Times are clearly tough at boutique hotels that specifically target farang sextourists at the moment

Can you be a bit more explicit on this.

I am in the hotel business here in Thailand and my latest research (in france germany uk switzerland italy spain) why tourism is low is something like this.

Youth travel business. Only 6 years ago youngest under 25 could afford to travel on budget as they had somehow a job. Nowadays only one from five under 25 have a job.

The hight middel class was the main travelers to Thailand. Whats happen to them. A part that they fear to loose theier job its the pension system who is changing. Now you have to work till your are 67 (germany what to go for 69) therefore more to pay for your full pension.

HIGHT END Middel class SALARY euro 5000 per month. Nowadays what you have left after tax pension fund paid room rent and others from your 5000 is 2400 if you want a pension of euro 2400 you have to pay another euro 800 monthly to secure this pension amount

NORMAL MIDDEL CLASS salary around euro 3000 left nett 1600 aprox. And this will be your pension once you rich your 67. You want more pension pay more monthly.

That is one reason more why they travel less overseas. They go more to santo domingo. Kenya the US. Short trip to egypt etc. All those destination are much more cheaper then Thailand nowadays.

One large german touroperator told me that they do not more feature/sell hotel over euro 100 per room night.

I wonder from where all this new hotel with pool villa phuket samui find clients paying the 8000 to 13.000 per day.

My own opinion of course.