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  1. #4844
    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn
    You can't buy the sort of guileless GFE that the Thai girls offer.
    I thought that this was exactly what we were purchasing... I am confused now.

  2. #4843
    Quote Originally Posted by El Greco
    In general unless otherwise quoted in the original price

    Remember money is not that important, as the big smile on your face is, after a good session. I always tip, allover the world, the ones who manage to give me that big smile.
    In the soapies full service is included in the price. If you get a real good service with 2 pops and you feel that she went over the limit for you then 500-1000 is a very good tip. If she is average 300 will do. If you are not satisfied don't give them anything even if they ask. At least that's what I am doing.

    Did you mean to say 50-100 baht tip? 1000 baht tip sounds unbelievable.

  3. #4842
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill
    I've been banging the thai's and Russkies in Pattaya and Bkk since Dec. and the economy here is pretty bad.

    This means that the guys paying 2000 and up + barfine for average poon are uneducated or too eager and desperate.

    The max I have been paying is 1K and that includes the Indians, Russians and Uzbeki's.

    Fight inflation!

    Excellent idea!

  4. #4841
    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn
    Girls at LL provide an experience that is far harder to obtain than the sexual athleticism of a Tulip or Eden club girl. You can get that in Farangland, it just costs more. You can't buy the sort of guileless GFE that the Thai girls offer. Sure, sometimes they're shy, or tired, or whatever, but it's incredible that you can spend so much relaxed time with them and also take advantage of their little persons for such a small expenditure of baht and energy.
    I prefer to pay for good sex, top of the range stuff.

    Paying for a "GFE" is a little sad really, GFE is avaiable for free in Bangkok with a little time and effort spent, there is a whole load of Thai girls out there who are single and desperate.

    Just having someone who smiles a lot, hangs around all day, pops out to buy you something from 7-11 at the expenses of sampling the many delights Bangkok has to offer, under the guise that a GFE is somewhat better than a PSE at Tulips or Eden. Sorry, does not do it for me.

    Livingstones is not cheap for what it is, its not in a great location on Soi 33, the LL girls have a large bar fine and in fact its all "there" to extract monies from lazy American sex tourists in my view. Thats fine and a good business venture if you can latch on to the "lazy US" mongers, but please, there is a Livingstongs thread on ISG that Giotto sponsers and uses for marketing of LL.

    Can we therefore leave the Bangkok thread to being Bangkok without the LL.

  5. #4840

    Just an Observation..

    I have to say from the start that I am an avid reader, I suppose it’s because I am a newcomer to this site, not to Thailand. There are some real characters here, true blue sex mongers, it is like online learning, Mick is like the daddy of all that is Thailand. I do find it interesting that most of the guys here seem to be in unison agreement that the best sexual encounters they have had, have been in the land of smiles and with ladies of a particular job description. I am a vacation monger in as far as I only go to massage parlors and bars when my brother comes over for his holiday. The rest of the year I am married.

    To the point! The best sex I have had here on numerous occasions is with married women. Ranging in age from 24-50. Yes 50! You would never think so to look at her. She loved everything. She could suck for Thailand, loved anal, and a pussy as sweet as a 16 year old. She even rented a condo for our illicit meetings. Which was very convenient for my other encounters. I did try a few twenty plus year olds. Their bodies were enough to make you cum in your pants, but as far as delivery of services (of a free nature). Mediocre to say the least. I find that women that have sex for a job can be mechanical and I suppose like most of us, habitual in the process of producing cum. Whereas a horny Thai wife who has not been touched by her mongering Thai husband for sometime, who spends his time in a massage parlor, appreciates a good shag. Don’t get me wrong I have had some good times with bar girls and my occasional massage visit, but for the best girlfriend experience, I think it will probably come from a girlfriend type relationship. I know I will probably be slated for this, but that is my experience here so far. I f you are thinking I am some sort of inexperienced sex monger, well as far as paying for it well yes I probably am, as for shagging women (free) I am up there with the rest.

    As a conclusion to this post. The best sex I have ever had. Has to be in the UK. I was working the doors on a Birmingham nightclub when I met two of the horniest Jamaican girls. I was so drained after taking these two to the Hyatt, it took me a week to produce another load. But as far as the prettiest and the best GFE. Then Thailand is tops. I think the old saying "love the one your with" comes into mind. We all say the best shag was such and such, that is until the next best one, then it all changes. Or maybe a certain girl is a good shag because instead of just laying there and enjoying it, we may like her to the point of being a good shag for her. And let’s face it, two good fuckers together has got to be the fuck of the century. I keep this in mind, I have not had the best fuck of my life yet. I am still looking. I hope I never find it and am forced to keep searching until I have to have a bash at the "Angels"!

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  6. #4839
    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPearl
    How about pole sucking and licking. Does that impress you.

    Recently I recieved maybe the best BJ I've ever had, a pornstar experience. This young hottie has been well trained, whether by porn and or men from all over the world. The ladies here can teach newbies a lot about sex, and even vets a thing or two.
    Not sure you are on the same topic.
    We are talking about gogo "pole" dancers.

  7. #4838
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Licker
    ....cut.....
    The girls are complaining a bit of course. Not enough business for their extra work hours.
    of course the girls will complain,
    Bar Owners will sell more drinks (maybe minimal, don't know how many mongers want to be out 'till 3am - not me anyway).
    Will these same owners pay more monthly wage to the staff for the extra # of hours they put in each week ?- I doubt it!

  8. #4837
    Quote Originally Posted by Giotto
    Eric Burden,

    Sorry to hear that - but these things are out of my control. And I really will not get involved into that, for obvious reasons ... (btw., didn't we have a TQM manager )?
    ...
    Now, that's serious. If this happens we would really like to know about it. Service is a thing we cannot control, but if a girl cheats she will be warned once, and then fired, if problems occur again.

    ...

    Girls are a hit and a miss, as everywhere. And girls from hostess bars do not provide the same kind of service as ie. Tulip girls. Still - if the chemistry is right things will work very well.


    Giotto

    PS: Your visit must be long time ago, Fern does not work here any more since at least 18 months.
    Girls at LL provide an experience that is far harder to obtain than the sexual athleticism of a Tulip or Eden club girl. You can get that in Farangland, it just costs more. You can't buy the sort of guileless GFE that the Thai girls offer. Sure, sometimes they're shy, or tired, or whatever, but it's incredible that you can spend so much relaxed time with them and also take advantage of their little persons for such a small expenditure of baht and energy.

  9. #4836
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Licker
    My view is "lazy on the pole, likely lazy in bed".

    Good dancers are likely to be better but its not guaranteed if they are just putting on a sexy act.

    Pole stroking doesn't impress me at all.
    How about pole sucking and licking. Does that impress you.

    Recently I recieved maybe the best BJ I've ever had, a pornstar experience. This young hottie has been well trained, whether by porn and or men from all over the world. The ladies here can teach newbies a lot about sex, and even vets a thing or two.

  10. #4835

    Livingstone's

    I agree Mick. I stayed there for the first time last year, and it met every expectation. I was there on vacation and I didn't want lots of pomp, but a nice, relaxed friendly atmosphere with nice rooms. Livingstone's fit the bill perfectly and I look forward to my return there in April or May.

    GE

  11. #4834
    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont
    I spent my first of 100+ night I've spent over the last 18 months in LOS here in 2007, and although I didn't care for the lodgings, or service at check in, BUT, I had a rocken good time in the bar, and BF'd a girl there that made me sore for a week! Next morning she wouldn't let me sleep in! I had to seek out chubier ones for a while. Cant mention names but she was a spinner! (thus the pelvic soreness). Sweet memories! Great first night in LOS!!!!
    Its important that people realize that Livingstone's is a boutique "Islands Style" fun hotel, that is not plush or luxurious. Mind you, the rooms are very comfortable in my opinion. Its good value for money to me with every thing I need and the great "atmosphere".

    The staff are very friendly with polite customers but are not comparible with with big 4 and 5 star hotels that have a huge reception desk and an excess of reception staff.

    As the staff know me well, we get to joke around a lot.
    Even the manager (not Giotto) is a great joker.

  12. #4833
    Quote Originally Posted by Giotto
    Hmmm...

    Slowly, slowly, I would have heard this news - I think its a rumour, or may be the bar owner wants the girls to stay longer because the police actually does not check much right now...

    We will call the police on monday to check it out, but it is highly unlikely that this is really true.


    Giotto
    Today talked to taxi driver. He said that the bars are able to open at least 1 extra hour. O.K. I don't know the "official" story yet. But generally some confirmation of opening later.

    In case of Suzi Wong Bar, they are now closing at 3AM.
    The girls are complaining a bit of course. Not enough business for their extra work hours.

  13. #4832

    Livingstone girls

    I spent my first of 100+ night I've spent over the last 18 months in LOS here in 2007, and although I didn't care for the lodgings, or service at check in, BUT, I had a rocken good time in the bar, and BF'd a girl there that made me sore for a week! Next morning she wouldn't let me sleep in! I had to seek out chubier ones for a while. Cant mention names but she was a spinner! (thus the pelvic soreness). Sweet memories! Great first night in LOS!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Burden
    I had a poor experience with the Girl at Livingstons some time ago too. First I met Giotto and had a drink with him, nice guy. I was staying at the lodge. Then I took a girl,Fern, for LT, from the sports bar. She seemed very taken with me because I had a beard and wanted to stroke it. So far, so good.

    Got to the room and she gave a short BJ. Her body was a little plump and some scarring from child birth. Boffed her in several positions while she starfished. It took me a long time but I finally came. She decided to leave as soon as I came, even though we had agreed on LT. I was very disappointed in her because of her lack of enthusiasm and early departure. However, i had already come 3 times that day so it really took some work on her part.

    So I thought LL had a nice restaurant and hotel, friendly staff, Giotto is nice guy but the girls service not so good and they cost more.

    EB

  14. #4831
    Quote Originally Posted by Pita123
    Not sure if this has been discussed before, but like Shark there are lots of bars with no shows. The 'pole dancing' gets really boring but there always seem to be one or two girls who are especially energetic as opposed to doing the 'look in the mirror and shuffle'. When getting these girls back to the room do you find them to be as energetic or more likely to beg off as being tired?
    My view is "lazy on the pole, likely lazy in bed".
    Good dancers are likely to be better but its not guaranteed if they are just putting on a sexy act.
    Pole stroking doesn't impress me at all.

  15. #4830
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Licker
    ...
    She said that Prime Minister Aphisit had repealed Thaksin's law and that from last night the bars can stay open till 3AM. Some were previously going beyond 1AM to some extent anyway.
    Hmmm...

    Slowly, slowly, I would have heard this news - I think its a rumour, or may be the bar owner wants the girls to stay longer because the police actually does not check much right now...

    We will call the police on monday to check it out, but it is highly unlikely that this is really true.


    Giotto

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