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  1. #50907

    Yes, nature hardwired men and women very differently for good reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by DazeUp  [View Original Post]
    I did this with a girl friend once. Not the intended message got through. She casually followed me to the bathroom and said; Now you know how I feel. Haha. She used to swallow like a champ though I would never have known.

    Men and women are different. Men would happily eat a woman and get pleasure out of it but women, were it not that they were getting monetary compensation for it they would feel they were being taken advantage of. The west is still grappling with the dynamics of these hard wired differences. But I feel for these girls because even porn starts who get paid big bucks to bang fit men, you can see a good number of them struggle with the swallow or even CIM while trying to control their facial expressions. Some even holding back a barf. It's the minority that can lap it up like icing on a cake and I'm sure that's not the treatment their boyfriends get. Men enjoy women but women get enjoyed by men for some sort of compensation or other. Worst being locking you down and being taken care of by you for life. And you have to put a ring on her finger for the privilege. That's just the way the world goes round..
    Even with a belly full of Viagra and 10,000 baht dangling in front of him a man of any age and level of virility might not be able to have coitus with a woman for whom he has no sexual attraction whatsoever.

    Not so with females.

    They can engage in coitus with 100 men a day without even seeing them, without assessing them on their looks, age, race or physical fitness. Even without being the least bit aroused.

    Females can and likely most often have become pregnant and propagated the entirety of the human race without having an orgasm. They don't need to be aroused or have an orgasm in order to fulfill their biological destiny as nature meant us to do.

    Not so with males.

    The thing is, only the man is required to be aroused, get an erection and have an orgasm in order to "have sex". And that goes for oral and anal as well as vaginal sex.

    And nature allowed for this to be true for any man of virtually any age even into his 90's.

    Nature has also hardwired us to perceive and intuit that the chances of that successful childbirth biological destiny occurring is unaffected by the age of the man but is greatly affected by the age of the female. With rare exception, it is essentially over for her by age 45-50.

    That applies to your "young stud" to "older lady" comment. There is a natural reason, quite literally, why seeing an older male with a much younger female is rather commonplace and unremarkable while seeing a young stud with an old lady is not.

    It turns out there is another bit of hardwiring that has been going on since our brains developed and grew so rapidly inside the womb that we had to pass through the birth canal and emerge through the vagina too soon for our muscle and body development to catch up and before our skulls grew too large to pass through without killing the female.

    The problem then is, the female needs to have mated or at least bonded with a male who can provide safety, security, shelter, food and all the other things represented by, guess what, money, in order to compensate for the fact that for several months into years after the birth of a child her arms and hands will be occupied with carrying and hand feeding that child who, unlike virtually every other member of the animal kingdom and due to the early development and rapid growth in the size of our brain and skull vs the rest of our body in the womb, is not capable of clinging to the mother, climb a tree on our own, swim in the water, run in the field and so on to find food or flee danger without assistance for well over the next 2-3 years.

    So, for that reason, there is also natural hardwiring in females to do things they might not be sexually aroused by or would not do on their own initiative in order to attract, inspire to mate, bond with and hold such male providers with pockets full of money that has no real natural counterpart in the mind or needs of males.

    For some men that might be anal sex, COF and such. For others it might be blowjobs and swallowing.

    For others it might be rustling up a mean Irish stew. Who knows.

    But it is not so out of line, unnatural or repulsive for the woman to figure it out and accommodate the man accordingly in direct exchange for goods and services (money) as you might think.

  2. #50906
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I love to DATY and ordinarily it would never occur to me to insult the girl I was doing it for by spitting out her vaginal secretions before her orgasm or the extra that comes out during her orgasm. But I did experiment once with that move just to see how ladies feel about swallowing vs spitting. The girl absolutely loved my DATY but within seconds of her volcanic orgasm I leapt to my feet, ran to the bathroom and spit out as much of it as I could get out of my mouth into the sink.

    YMMV and I don't know if you ever do DATY for ladies. But the next time you do try that running to the toilet to spit thing immediately after she cums and see how it goes.
    I did this with a girl friend once. Not the intended message got through. She casually followed me to the bathroom and said; Now you know how I feel. Haha. She used to swallow like a champ though I would never have known.

    Men and women are different. Men would happily eat a woman and get pleasure out of it but women, were it not that they were getting monetary compensation for it they would feel they were being taken advantage of. The west is still grappling with the dynamics of these hard wired differences. But I feel for these girls because even porn starts who get paid big bucks to bang fit men, you can see a good number of them struggle with the swallow or even CIM while trying to control their facial expressions. Some even holding back a barf. It's the minority that can lap it up like icing on a cake and I'm sure that's not the treatment their boyfriends get. Men enjoy women but women get enjoyed by men for some sort of compensation or other. Worst being locking you down and being taken care of by you for life. And you have to put a ring on her finger for the privilege. That's just the way the world goes round.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I also have never spit out a ladies saliva after we engage in DFK although I suppose I could keep a tissue handy to do it somewhat discretely after our lips disengage. I can't imagine it would bother any lady even if she caught me spitting into the tissue. I mean, the DFK was over, why would she care if I swallow or spit out her saliva.
    Not sure if you'd feel the same way ET if the tables were turned. You being a young stud in your early 20's and your partner an older lady with 1.5 k baht in her hands.

    I too enjoy your humor and have also picked up on the exaggerations of some forum posts. Bangkok may be the prostitute capital of the world but not every girl is a little porn star waiting for the opportunity to start her performance. A lot of them are just normal girls trying to make a buck with below average performance. Like any job you have to do over and over day in and day out.

  3. #50905
    Hey guys,

    I last visited Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) in 2019 and mostly visited soapy massages and used Smooci. I'm planning to visit again in June / July and wanted to know where to find high-end escorts, pricier than the usual fare.

  4. #50904

    One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster.

    It's been a helluva week and yours truly needed to blow off some serious steam on a Friday night after wrapping up another fucking meeting across timezones late in the evening BKK time. Having used tinder / bumble for entertainment and lining up a few potential dates with well situated ladies (including one married one, heh) between juggling meetings and todos all week, Friday luck fell on a meeting with a frontally gifted and Line photo sharing happy freelancer situated in soi 49, with me only having her location and had a vague plan on what to do throughout the evening. Fun started around 7 pm with finding of a mototaxi to get me to the exact spot in the soi after casually walking around Phrom Phong BTS. Hmmm. Stocking massage place that close to the metro? Mental note for a later to-do.

    Getting to the freelancers location, as I'm getting to the agreed room number I see a smallish, darker skinned lady just leaving looking all cute and shaking what was obviously a tight little butt. Undeterred by potential crowding, I enter to find miss large melons waiting for me with a big smile and about 10 years more then what she had in the photos but oh well. I'm here to think with my dick, not my head. Just about 15 mintues of light covo and sucking in I spray in her mouth, she recoils and goes to wash off and I'm there thinking ehhh you get what you pay for (2 k 2 shots, and oh well let's just shoot the shit in light convo while she figures out how to get me hard again). Then lo and behold, then she starts talking about her friend who is a ladyboy and whom she's sharing the room with. The one I saw coming in. And some bla bla later it hits me out of nowhere. Holy shit, this ladyboy I matched about a month ago and had on the to-do list but never got around to it. And fellow mongers, I'm talking prime grade-a body of a total woman with a smallish looking dick. I don't care how straight you are, this one will have you thinking of crossing over to the other side. One call and 5 minutes later and this magical, very young (legal!) miss Z, a young cousin of miss Melons, more then willing to kiss and I'll spare you the rest but it was incredible and I had my fill of trying out some stuff for the first time ever.

    Time for your struly to wet his other beak (the upper one), so off to a mototaxi after some nearby street food and straight off to Nana. Spankys was classically fun (jesus. What I wouldn't pay or do to hit the mamasan of that place, that's one hot piece of ass. And I so jealous of that farang looking guy who seems to be her husband, working in the same bar. Reminds me of those Somchai Jitplecheep books. This guy might be Somchai?) and my regular big titty dancer and lady drinker saw me from the door. One ladydrink and some light groping later I find myself not really entertained by familiar surrounding and off I go exploring, landing on Twister and a miss Numbers. And holy shit. She sure wanted the lady drinks but I actually got not only groping, licking, fingering and even a brief BJ right there in the bar against all mamasan's rules and objections (hey. I'm into stuff in very public places, you have your choice of poison this is mine) - sweet heavens that was fun. And Twister won't cheat you, no sir, for several hours of my thai wisky-sodas and lady drinks total tab came in under 2 k. Could have barfined miss Numbers but this evening, having gotten balls drained twice already, just didn't feel quite up to it. Oh but she was oh so willing to provide her line ID, in full view of waitresses who shortly offered theirs haha. Fun times, and off to grab some beer to wrap up the night outside in fitzgeralds.

    I must be a hansum man because two nearby streetwalkers kept smiling at me oh so sweet, so had to get them beers too. One was nice and wordy and shy of herself ("ah me so old, short time for you 1 k" Long story short, about 20 minutes later I had her deepthroating me with a finger up my ass all the way up until the reaction of how the night started with the first lady. Given that yours truly by this point was properly drunk AND drained, decided to call it quits even though her friend wante do take us to the nearby thai all-night night club. At least now I know where it is haha.

    Total damage for a night of doing exactly what I want without ever looking or thinking at prices with all the other a lot more shy guys looking on at who the fuck is this guy with whom not only ladies laugh and push titties into his face but also waitresses come around to join the fun. Around 7 k.

    So for anyone picky on prices. Nana and a big smile is the way to go, and some perseverance on shitty nights that the one like I just had is right around the corner.

  5. #50903

    Demino and Bar Bar Fetish

    Coming back to this after searching here:

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTimePass  [View Original Post]
    Was free within 1 hour. My other fantasy in this trip is to tick off BDSM. So tried contacting couple of dominatrix wael, jaa but they given me appointment later in the week. While browsing came across two BDSM clubs Barbar fetish and demino. Bar bar is in patpong and demino is close to phrong pong. Went to demino as it's closer to ashok. The club is very well played out amd nice atmosphere. Enough space about 7 dominatrix and 12 slaves were present as mentioned by the bar girl. Sat at the end of the bar. A salve girl was tied up near it and dom was spanking her. Had a bit of conversation and then I started hearing sounds coming from adjoining room having only curtain. There was a group session 2 men and 4 girls (1 dom and 3 slaves in session). Was able to hear and see everything. The guys were having time of their life. After sometime selected a dom and slave. Did some basic stuff. Then asked them to show me around. On the top floor rooms for private session were available, all of them were empty and on side of the bar 1 guy was having BJ completely naked in full view of anyone passing by. Near the cage room asian guy was being spanked by dom. I went in middle of the bar which was a little dark. Asked slave slave to give me BJ while dom gave her all the instructions. Then made her eat out dom and while I pumped slave and doggy. All this in open area. Was quite a turn on. Tomorrow will try out bar bar fetish. Total damage for demino was around 8 k but I don't care as I had a good time.
    Would like to know anyone else been at Demino or Bar Bar? I am into that sort of thing, but I don't want a fem dom around. My question: is this required to have one, in the sense of safety supervision? I heard at Bar Bar you could get a girl that I would tie up and that would take a good spanking and stuff. That's what I'm looking for, but not sure how they are doing it with the girls' safety? I can respect a safe word but not not sure if they'd trust me. Perhaps that is also why they have the open setting in Deminos. But then I don't like open settings, had that in an FKK club in Germany once, felt weird. But then maybe I just need to get over it. I prefer open than having a fem dom interfering.

    Also, any other ideas? I must say I've been a fan of what the Asian Apple Seed guy has done. I remember we had a brief conversation about this dude. I wonder how open just general girls are to get into this sort of thing?

  6. #50902

    It's a rare and personal quirk of mine I suppose

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Why do you care if the girl swallows or spits it out after you finish in her mouth? Isn't the point to finish in her mouth, not what she does with your come?
    It's complicated. I suppose it's a personal quirk of mine. I like knowing all during the blowjob that the girl will swallow my cum and not spit it out at the end like poison, which I find to be a rather sad, disappointing, insulting and nasty end to what purports to be an act of oral acceptance of someone's body and essence.

    As far as I know I am the only man who prefers the girl to swallow rather than spit so I am further puzzled by why so many of these BJ Bar girls swallow for the ones who don't care either way but don't swallow all of it for me. Don't they know almost all of those other men don't care if they swallow or spit and that I am the rare exception who does care?

    I love to DATY and ordinarily it would never occur to me to insult the girl I was doing it for by spitting out her vaginal secretions before her orgasm or the extra that comes out during her orgasm. But I did experiment once with that move just to see how ladies feel about swallowing vs spitting. The girl absolutely loved my DATY but within seconds of her volcanic orgasm I leapt to my feet, ran to the bathroom and spit out as much of it as I could get out of my mouth into the sink.

    I asked her how she liked it and she said something in partial Thai and English about that thing I did at the end feeling sad, insulting, disappointing and nasty. She apologized for flooding my mouth with so much liquid that apparently tasted horrible and promised never to finish that way again.

    YMMV and I don't know if you ever do DATY for ladies. But the next time you do try that running to the toilet to spit thing immediately after she cums and see how it goes.

    I also have never spit out a ladies saliva after we engage in DFK although I suppose I could keep a tissue handy to do it somewhat discretely after our lips disengage. I can't imagine it would bother any lady even if she caught me spitting into the tissue. I mean, the DFK was over, why would she care if I swallow or spit out her saliva.

  7. #50901
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I asked for it early or upfront too. Which prompts me to add an additional personal record of results on that issue with regard to the dozens of girls I have had BJ sessions with at Lolitas and Kasalong over the past almost 10 years for Lolitas and since Kasalong first opened about 7 years ago as I recall:

    BBBJ+CIM+Swallow = 0.

    Percentage of times the girl looked surprised, shocked or horrified and said NO to my early / upfront stated preference and request for her to Swallow my cum at the end of the BBBJ+CIM instead if discretely spitting or pushing it out of her mouth into a tissue while pretending to dab her lips with it even if I offered her more money to do it = 100%.

    Oh well.
    Why do you care if the girl swallows or spits it out after you finish in her mouth? Isn't the point to finish in her mouth, not what she does with your come?

  8. #50900
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    That must be it. And from the number of BJ Bar patrons whose recent reports here agreed that full Cum Swallowing was almost always included for them in Thailand's BJ Bars I can only conclude I am among the ugliest punters on the scene. Sad.

    On the other hand, there were also some recent reports from punters who didn't get a CIM finish at all in some of them while not getting a proper CIM finish with those providers was extremely rare for me.

    So that might mean I am more hansum than at least 2-3 other men in Bangkok! Hooray!
    Luv your sense of humour EihTooms.

    I will drop you a note when I am in Bangkok next month for a catchup.

  9. #50899

    That is the most likely conclusion

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    Maybe I'm a more hansum man.
    That must be it. And from the number of BJ Bar patrons whose recent reports here agreed that full Cum Swallowing was almost always included for them in Thailand's BJ Bars I can only conclude I am among the ugliest punters on the scene. Sad.

    On the other hand, there were also some recent reports from punters who didn't get a CIM finish at all in some of them while not getting a proper CIM finish with those providers was extremely rare for me.

    So that might mean I am more hansum than at least 2-3 other men in Bangkok! Hooray!

  10. #50898

    Mango on Soi 24/1

    Tl; dr: Don't go here; the room was filthy with quite a lot of insects hang around on the walls and ceiling.

    I was looking for a quick pop to fill my afternoon, so I wandered down to Soi 24/1. It was still quite early (maybe 13:00, I don't quite remember), and there weren't too many girls around. I had half decided to check out Cherry Massage based on the information on this site, but the girl outside Mango caught my eye and so I took the plunge and went in. I don't remember exactly how much it cost for an hour, but I think it was about THB 2200. The reception area was in a bit of disrepair, but I wasn't too concerned at the time. After waiting a few minutes for the girl to get ready, I was brought upstairs to a dark-ish room. It looked okay at first glance and we went straight into the shower. However, once we moved to the bed and I was on my back able to look around it became clear that this was not a clean room. There were insects hanging on the walls and on the ceiling. I don't necessarily expect there never to be any critters in such a room, but this was a step too far. I still did the deed as I was already naked on the bed at that stage, but I got out of there as soon as I could after it was done.

  11. #50897
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I asked for it early or upfront too. Which prompts me to add an additional personal record of results on that issue with regard to the dozens of girls I have had BJ sessions with at Lolitas and Kasalong over the past almost 10 years for Lolitas and since Kasalong first opened about 7 years ago as I recall:

    BBBJ+CIM+Swallow = 0.

    Percentage of times the girl looked surprised, shocked or horrified and said NO to my early / upfront stated preference and request for her to Swallow my cum at the end of the BBBJ+CIM instead if discretely spitting or pushing it out of her mouth into a tissue while pretending to dab her lips with it even if I offered her more money to do it = 100%.

    Oh well.
    Maybe I'm a more hansum man.

  12. #50896
    When I was vising Bangkok, end of February to March, Lolitas was open, but only one girl availed. Young one, but good service. Shesay that was working 9 to 18. Kasalong open also, many ladies, but ugly. I pass a few times, but never enter.

    Wooden bar also open with limited staff, and at 7 Heaven, I get very bad service.

  13. #50895

    So did I

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    Well clearly I never knew about the FS rooms over many visits and was never offered it.

    As to swallow, as I said it was a staple, probably because I asked for it early, so YMMV.

    All this was pre-covid of course.
    I asked for it early or upfront too. Which prompts me to add an additional personal record of results on that issue with regard to the dozens of girls I have had BJ sessions with at Lolitas and Kasalong over the past almost 10 years for Lolitas and since Kasalong first opened about 7 years ago as I recall:

    BBBJ+CIM+Swallow = 0.

    Percentage of times the girl looked surprised, shocked or horrified and said NO to my early / upfront stated preference and request for her to Swallow my cum at the end of the BBBJ+CIM instead if discretely spitting or pushing it out of her mouth into a tissue while pretending to dab her lips with it even if I offered her more money to do it = 100%.

    Oh well.

  14. #50894
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Both Lolitas and Kasalong always had and presumably still have "Short Time rooms for FS", upstairs maybe an extra flight of stairs with a bed and private toilet and shower. Kasalong, being the newer venue of the two, had rather nice, clean and well appointed ST Rooms while the 1-2 in Lolitas were only passable. Had a mirror on the wall though. The fees for both tended to be about 1,700 - 1,800 baht, all inclusive with tip optional, for about an hour.

    LOL. Here we go with another report that swallowing the cum at the end of the BJ services at those BJ Bars was a "staple", "standard" or "the norm" in those places as opposed to other recent reports stating they didn't even get a CIM finish because they didn't ask for it upfront.

    As always, YMMV and maybe we are all entering a New Normal post-Covid..
    Well clearly I never knew about the FS rooms over many visits and was never offered it.

    As to swallow, as I said it was a staple, probably because I asked for it early, so YMMV.

    All this was pre-covid of course.

  15. #50893
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    ........ Lolitas had closed due to suicide of Thai owner. Probably due to this and COVID, they have not yet got back in the swing of things..........
    I hope Lolitas reopen or something similar.

    Of the two BEST BBBJs that I ever received in my life, one was from a girl at Lolitas. I was pissed when I went back there hours later to find out she was gone. Throughout that trip there, she apparently never came back.

    The other best BBBJ that I received was from a SMOOCI girl back in 2017. OHH LAWD. Yes, both were CIM. The SMOOCI girl let me CIM four times in one night.

    WOW.

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