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  1. #50021
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster14  [View Original Post]
    No candids for this particular girl, I wouldn't put her at the level of a top girl, but above average imo. I am fairly certain about the 8 k however, based on other chats she's shown me in past years when we negotiated rates for multi day trips.

    I also think the asking price for top girls at agogos were overinflated pre Covid. At those ST rates I might as well stay in the States and stick with Eros and Slixa, or leg it to Tijuana or Montreal.
    Sounds like a girl who has good Business Sense. If she really got 8,000 pre covid, 6,000 now is no shame.

  2. #50020
    Quote Originally Posted by ChimpoChinn  [View Original Post]
    Pics are an absolute must when discussing price.

    8,000 is not your average Baccarat Girl. The top ones don't even do long time.

    I'm think girl says list price is 8,000. Goes for 6,000. Real price is 3,500 long time. I've seen it before.

    Purchase a girl is like buying a Boeing Plane. No one pays list price.
    No candids for this particular girl, I wouldn't put her at the level of a top girl, but above average imo. I am fairly certain about the 8 k however, based on other chats she's shown me in past years when we negotiated rates for multi day trips.

    I also think the asking price for top girls at agogos were overinflated pre Covid. At those ST rates I might as well stay in the States and stick with Eros and Slixa, or leg it to Tijuana or Montreal.

  3. #50019

    A Mixed Return

    First visit since I left the country days into the pandemic in February 2020. Really knew I should have waited longer but I was in peril of losing my exalted status in a frequent flyer program and I'd be damned if I was going to wait behind the unwashed masses to board a plane!

    So far I can only comment on Analisa, Soi 7, and as of tonight, Wood Bar.

    I've visited Analisa twice. First I went for the four hands milking table thing. I got what may have been the only two girls working at the time, named something like Niko and White. Neither is on their website. One was above average, the other pretty much par for that sort of establishment. They were definitely big on the massage. Who knew? Just because it was called "massage" I was supposed to expect a massage? I am not particularly big on massages, ranking them about on par with root canals, depending on the quality of the pain killers and the looks of the assistant in the latter. But when we got down to business they were real troopers, a good thing because I am notoriously difficult to get off and only get a happy ending maybe three quarters of the time. But as time expired Niko would not be denied so we went into extra time and she eventually triumphed. Like I said, a real trooper.

    I was back a couple of days later to try their BDSM thing. Never tried that before but with my plummeting batting average I was willing to experiment. Still don't know if it helped because the dom, or whatever they are called, was Preaw, who was pretty cute, in my opinion better looking than her pics though of course lighting, or lack of it could have been a factor. I'm definitely going to repeat with her, just don't know about whether I do the BDSM thing again. A lot of fun, which I don't think a dom is supposed to be, and really good hands.

    I hit Wood Bar this evening and drew "Faa" or something like that. Large, likely not original equipment boobs, and a decent, but not supermodel face. Got washed front and back which was new to me. Remember that it's been almost two years. So had high hopes that the tongue was going to stray. Hopes were dashed but I did end up with a sparkling clean crack so there is that. Good and varied technique but at some point decided that I really needed my nipples played with which reduced her effective hand job ability by half. Eventually time was up and this went into the twenty five percent loss column but she insisted I stay there for a few more minutes because maybe I had really come for a massage. Did I mention that I don't like those?. Yes, I think I did.

    And finally there is Soi 7. I've been there five times so far and have very mixed emotions about it. Pretty much every time I saw at least one doable candidate but it is a bit more challenging and time consuming than the fish-in-a-barrel go-go bar scene of yore. The good items aren't on the shelves long so you may have to wait until one shows up and pounce. I fear that I suffer from pathological hesitation. I always worry that maybe something better is about to show up and of course it does not. I did talk to a lovely lass on my second night, a night when I was tragically already scheduled to be at Analisa in an hour. Name was Aann, supposedly an ex-coyote at RB 5. She said so so it must be true, right? Yeah. She did fit my personal description of a coyote, sort of tall, fit looking with a nice butt. She said that she only works three days a week and I think that may be an exaggeration: I've never found her again, though of course she could have been snapped up before I arrived.

    The downside to Soi 7 is an almost criminal lack of air conditioning. For some, nay, many, this appears not to be an issue but I like my air cooled. I'd also prefer that it didn't smell of sewer gas but that is probably asking a lot. By the time I get there from the BTS, maybe a two minute walk, I'm already starting to sweat and my battery powered fan, which works amazingly well in bars, just laughs at me like I'm expecting a miracle. So my on-station time is extremely limited. Basically I show up, scan for Aann, scan for suitable substitution, don't find one, down the Coke and head towards the escalator to the BTS. I don't know why I even bother.

    Which brings me to my take on the walking thing. To me the BTS is a godsend. In the pre-Skytrain days I had a routine for getting from Nana to Asoke. I had identified air conditioned businesses about every three minutes along the way. I ate a lot of pastries at the Landmark, I drank a lot of shakes at the Swensens in Times Square. Basically, I gained a lot of weight, but I gained it in comfort. In the Skytrain era I've learned where the escalators are (pro-tip: returning from Analisa go via Soi 8). It's not that I cannot walk. My workouts on my home treadmill are 10 kilometers / 6 miles at a 12 percent grade. But I generally don't have to trip on uneven pavers and dodge beggars, food carts, slow idiots glued to their phones, and tall Thai ladies with remarkably husky voices. And my home gym is about 15 Celsius / 60 Fahrenheit. When I arrived at Suvarnabhumi it was 55 Celsius / 100 Fahrenheit warmer than it was at my house. I think I'll skip the walk.

  4. #50018
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    Duh, he got B2000 back.

    I'm a 2 shot minimum in an HR. Sometimes 3 if the chemistry's right. In a 10-12 HR window (LT), I request 4 pops. I've never had a 24 HR session before. Maybe next time I'm there.

    Amazing reviews. Thank you! The only thing that'd make it even better is if you could attach pics! Still, thanks again for the reports!
    Pics are an absolute must when discussing price.

    8,000 is not your average Baccarat Girl. The top ones don't even do long time.

    I'm think girl says list price is 8,000. Goes for 6,000. Real price is 3,500 long time. I've seen it before.

    Purchase a girl is like buying a Boeing Plane. No one pays list price.

  5. #50017
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy  [View Original Post]
    It's funny, I have the opposite experience. I'm looking for the long casual coffee date game (helps not to be a tourist) and get hit up a lot from hookers (or girls asking for P4 P if you prefer).
    That's probably a smart play, it is pretty obvious from my profile that I'm just a tourist. I do get a ton of likes and matches but have literally had only 3 requests for P4 P out of maybe 50 convos.

  6. #50016
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    Amazing reviews. Thank you! The only thing that'd make it even better is if you could attach pics! Still, thanks again for the reports!
    Have been lurking the Brazil and Colombia forums for a while, appreciate your input there. Not really a show and tell kind of guy but I'll link the profile of Sidelines gem #1 since I've gotten a few DMs for contact info. Unfortunately she has stopped working for Dec, but the page still has a ton of pictures which should give you a good idea. You'll find the review from me on it as well.

    https://www.fiwfans.com/sideline/406radewfkqxdyhk9

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    What kind of filters did you use? Any recommended agencies?
    I filtered for the districts nearest to Asok, as I wasn't willing to go out to the suburbs or west side for incall. Other than that, females and verified pictures. I can't really recommend any agencies since I only have 2 DPs, but I think in general the prices seem to reflect the quality of the girl within the same agency with a few exception of girls advertised as "models", "net idols", etc. I would say the reviews on the site definitely seem skewed towards the provider's favor, but providers with a lot of positive reviews and review pictures seems to be a good indicator. Maybe some of the expat seniors can give more info on any preferred agencies.

  7. #50015

    Milking Table

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas9  [View Original Post]
    two of the roughest looking women I've ever seen in Thailand showed up. The service was rushed and very un-sensual.
    Thanks for that (and the rest, too) information. I, too, enjoyed the experience at Analisa, which was the exact opposite. My only gripe is that they really need to make the mirror a magnifying one like makeup ones. My junk is small enough as is and the extra distance to the mirror, then aft makes it seem like I'm watching a Nature Channel documentary on rodent sex.

  8. #50014
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer  [View Original Post]
    It's actually Soi 17.
    It is actually on Sukhumwit Rd, between soi 17 and Soi 19. Same. Same.

  9. #50013
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster14  [View Original Post]

    Obviously the amount of girls on Sidelines is staggering (why is it called Sidelines and not Fiwfans? But so far with 4 DPs, 2 agency and 2 independent, I've had 1 bad experience (agency), 1 good experience (agency), and 2 excellent experiences (freelance).
    What kind of filters did you use? Any recommended agencies?

  10. #50012
    Quote Originally Posted by ChimpoChinn  [View Original Post]
    Hold on Fella.

    What did he get for 25%. It Matters.
    Duh, he got B2000 back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Hahahha, yea I am also one of those who do not want to walk. I mean I will go for a night walk or morning walk but that is different. I am going for Leisure walk and can return anytime I feel tired. Most of the time I took Taxi in Ukraine for small walks. It is a matter of comfort sometimes.

    Lets discuss something interesting here, how many shots can a guy take in a day.

    I am at only 1 shot per 24 hours. Unless I get a 9/10 girl for long time. I can then go for 2 shots within 24 hours but that is the max for me.

    Let me know what is your average, guys.
    I'm a 2 shot minimum in an HR. Sometimes 3 if the chemistry's right. In a 10-12 HR window (LT), I request 4 pops. I've never had a 24 HR session before. Maybe next time I'm there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aster14  [View Original Post]
    Day 4, PG activities in the morning. In the evening scheduled another LT with another contact I met years past from Tinder, who's done escorting on and off but stopped since COVID. Was told that she hasn't fucked anyone in a year, not sure I believe her but I don't care either way. Movie + overnight, damage was 6 k, pre pandemic she used to ask 8 k+ and would travel frequently where she'd likely have gotten more, so it seems like even the more successful girls are dropping prices.

    Day 5, visited another sidelines girl with an agency at noon, located in a hotel about 20 minutes north of Asok via Grab in traffic. Small Issan girl, good English, and accurate pictures. Girl was a bit shy as she seemed a bit new, but warmed up after some chit chat and was good in the sack. Two rounds, and she was happy to accommodate costume request for the second round. Damage 2 k for 90 minutes, she did mention to me that the agency was taking a 500 BHT cut, and that she preferred the agency since the volume of requests is excessive. In the evening met another contact I met on Instagram from years past and has since gone "legit". She seems to have done well for herself, new car, her own place, etc. Dinner + overnight BBFS, price was never discussed but I left 10 k in her purse, which she didn't bother counting. Will be seeing her again before I head back to the States.

    Day 6, independent sidelines girl in the morning, operating out of the same hotel as the gem I found on day 2. Was rejected at first since they mistake me for a Farang but got a yes when I clarified that I was Asian American. Pictures a bit touched up but unnecessary, guess most Thai guys prefer whiter skin. Another banging slim thick body, with dyed blonde. Pink hair. Acceptable English, ok BBBJ, very active in the sack, and great GFE. Also amazing massage between rounds. Damage was 3 k for 2 hours, might repeat. PG activities in the evening, did walk from Cowboys to Nana, which were both dead. Saw a few FLs, but nothing that really striked my fancy.

    Day 7, PG activities in the morning, was browsing through sidelines but the desire has really diminished after multiple days of 3+ nuts a day. Had the overnight girl from Day 4 over again for dinner + LT. Damage was again 6 k.

    Day 8, checkout in the morning and ride to Pattaya. Have 4 nights at the Hilton before 2 nights back in BKK.

    Somethings I noticed during my time in Bangkok. The city still seems pretty quiet. There's not a significant amount of traffic. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the talent has not yet returned, or has moved their operations online. In the past, I've been bombarded with messages on the WeChat nearby feature, which I've used to find talent passively, but have been solicited very few this year with none doable. I was expecting maybe more success this year with Tinder given the economic situation, but that hasn't been the case, with most matches wanting to either chat or meet for casual coffee dates. Maybe I just need to step up my game.

    As far as agency goes, nothing on Smooci has interested me so far. I did checkout bkkescortservice, but the "bare backed" service offered on the site and mentioned in past posts is gone, with the handler saying that no such option existed, so I have not partook as I don't think the value proposition is there. I'm also not sure if I will visit some of the massage parlors like Dream and Mitu as originally planned. I did manage to reach TonyBKK from years past, who has provided high quality girls at premium prices, but am not sure if I will book again this year as I've got a lot of talent lined up for the rest of my time in Bangkok.

    Obviously the amount of girls on Sidelines is staggering (why is it called Sidelines and not Fiwfans? But so far with 4 DPs, 2 agency and 2 independent, I've had 1 bad experience (agency), 1 good experience (agency), and 2 excellent experiences (freelance). All girls have touched up photos, but none excessive. I did notice that the good and excellent experiences were all with girls who have photos included in reviews. I think Sidelines is good if you're more of a quality than quantity sort of guy (which I am), as it does take a lot of effort to both filter and travel, but I can see this being great if you can build some sort of rapport with the girls or agencies over a longer period of time.

    On the PG side of things, visiting the Palace and Temple is actually very nice given the lack of massive Chinese tour groups. BTS, Grab, and taxi remains my primary methods of transportation and have been reliable with no scam attempts. Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit is a bit old, but service is still good, not sure if it's worth the pre-pandemic prices. Yaowarat and Chatuchak is open and packed. Are-Haan is excellent, LE Du is so so, El Toro good but overpriced, Marvels Eternals looks great but otherwise mediocre.
    Amazing reviews. Thank you! The only thing that'd make it even better is if you could attach pics! Still, thanks again for the reports!

  11. #50011

    Alcohol sales timing extended to 11 pm from tomorrow

    In Bangkok only.

    Meanwhile bars that aren't allowed to open are allowed to convert into restaurants and open, subject to inspections.

  12. #50010
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster14  [View Original Post]
    I was expecting maybe more success this year with Tinder given the economic situation, but that hasn't been the case, with most matches wanting to either chat or meet for casual coffee dates. Maybe I just need to step up my game.
    It's funny, I have the opposite experience. I'm looking for the long casual coffee date game (helps not to be a tourist) and get hit up a lot from hookers (or girls asking for P4 P if you prefer).

  13. #50009
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    At Sukhumvit and Soi 19, just before the Westin and Robinson. Ladyboy central after midnight. Thai girls will do anything for food.
    It's actually Soi 17.

  14. #50008

    Sidelines?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aster14  [View Original Post]
    Day 5, visited another sidelines girl with an agency at noon....

    Day 6, independent sidelines girl in the morning, operating out of the same hotel as the gem I found on day 2. ...

    Day 7, PG activities in the morning, was browsing through sidelines ....

    Obviously the amount of girls on Sidelines is staggering (why is it called Sidelines and not Fiwfans? But so far with 4 DPs, 2 agency and 2 independent, I've had 1 bad experience (agency), 1 good experience (agency), and 2 excellent experiences (freelance). All girls have touched up photos, but none excessive. I did notice that the good and excellent experiences were all with girls who have photos included in reviews. I think Sidelines is good if you're more of a quality than quantity sort of guy (which I am), as it does take a lot of effort to both filter and travel, but I can see this being great if you can build some sort of rapport with the girls or agencies over a longer period of time..
    Excuse my ignorance, but what is "sidelines"- is this like TF or smooci? I couldn't find it online, just some app that looked like a variation of "line". Also what does the abbreviation "DP" mean in this context? Can't imagine that's a double penetration but who knows.

  15. #50007
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    There were quite a few SE Asia economists here that always predicted price increases when business slows.

    I guess the Law of Supply and Demand prevailed. In one post he got LT for 6 k instead of normal 8 k. A 25% reduction.
    Hold on Fella.

    What did he get for 25%. It Matters.

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