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  1. #49211
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Did you counter offer? Can't blame her for asking 3 k, that was probably her regular rate before Covid, and she might be hoping for a clueless or generous punter. I'm pretty sure she'd jump on a 2 k offer, and probably consider 1 k as well.
    I didn't counter offer. I guess she may have accepted 2 k but that night I was looking for something cheap (and also didn't expect anyone to still ask 3 k and it kinda put me off anyway).

  2. #49210
    Its the small lbs that can fool you as well as they throw you off guard. Despite the tall ones being obvious.

  3. #49209

    When in doubt, toss it out

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    I met one like that. The only tell I have is that it was too easy when we discussed service. It was in front of Thermae but she was with friends that seem to be females. I decided to call the front desk when she was taking a shower and found out she has a male ID. She told me she borrowed the ID and let me examined her naked. I still could not tell but I decided to let her go.

    Another time, I met one who is tall for a female in front of Hyatt near Thermae. She claimed she worked at RB4 and showed me picture of her working. She just finished a short time date but did not want to go back to the bar. Her ID looked fine but because she was tall, too eager and tell me it's a good deal so I did not take her.
    Most of what I assume to be LB's in that area are down from Thermae, closer to Soi 11 area to Soi 4, and are "usually" easy to recognize and avoid. As other posters noted, from what I can tell, they're usually tall, aggressive, cheap, and overly feminine. Normally can spot them quite easily, but not always.

    The old saying, when in doubt, toss it out is appropriate in this case.

  4. #49208
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharka  [View Original Post]
    To be honest. I could tell LB most of the time. But not always.

    I once met a cute girl, fairly petite and based on all the criteria on the list, she was definitely a she.

    Never would have been able to tell until she didn't want to lie to me and told me she was a he. Complete with total sex change operations.
    I met one like that. The only tell I have is that it was too easy when we discussed service. It was in front of Thermae but she was with friends that seem to be females. I decided to call the front desk when she was taking a shower and found out she has a male ID. She told me she borrowed the ID and let me examined her naked. I still could not tell but I decided to let her go.

    Another time, I met one who is tall for a female in front of Hyatt near Thermae. She claimed she worked at RB4 and showed me picture of her working. She just finished a short time date but did not want to go back to the bar. Her ID looked fine but because she was tall, too eager and tell me it's a good deal so I did not take her.

  5. #49207
    Quote Originally Posted by Pwrmnd  [View Original Post]
    Supposedly "a woman's index finger is longer than the finger next to her pinkie; with men, it's the opposite. ".
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I just checked my girlfriend. This is not true. Unless she used to be a dude.
    I just checked me. This is not true. Unless I used to be a chick.

  6. #49206
    Quote Originally Posted by Pwrmnd  [View Original Post]
    Supposedly "a woman's index finger is longer than the finger next to her pinkie; with men, it's the opposite. "
    I just checked my girlfriend. This is not true. Unless she used to be a dude.

  7. #49205

    Another Tell

    In Thailand if the girl appears to be especially happy to be a female, really strutting her stuff publicly, proud enough of her boobs and butt to wear clothes that accentuate and display them, working it in the way she walks and poses her body, it is 99% certain that's a man.

    You can use that premise to differentiate between a real Thai female and a Ladyboy from a block away and chances are you'll nail it, no need to wait until you get a closer look or hear their voice.

  8. #49204
    It can be a challenge to tell. I hadn't thought about hip to shoulder ratio. Of the ones mentioned, I've found these the most useful.

    Asking them (not 100% honest, though).

    Voice (pitch, but also talking weird to cover it up).

    Height (the legs more so than the torso).

    Exaggerated feminine gait.

    Adam's apple.

    Some other signs:

    Hair. Women find it easier to grow long, thick hair.

    Facial skin. Women are more likely to have smooth skin.

    Breasts. Many ladyboys are carrying around big fake boobies with unnatural roundness.

    Elbows. Women's arms can bend a bit more at the elbow (like, more than 180 degrees, as if bent backwards).

    Aggression. Ladyboys are less subtle, and will more readily grab you or approach you.

    Thickness. Men have thicker bones and muscles in the arms.

    A few others I've heard of but never tried to use:

    Supposedly "a woman's index finger is longer than the finger next to her pinkie; with men, it's the opposite. ".

    Men have bigger heads (I think even 10% more than you'd expect just from being taller).

    If a bit overweight, women carry it more in the butt and thighs (men more in the stomach).

    "higher eyebrows, fuller lips, and a rounder jawline with a more pointed chin. " (men: square face; women: oval).

    There also might be something to just going with your instinct.

  9. #49203
    To be honest. I could tell LB most of the time. But not always.

    I once met a cute girl, fairly petite and based on all the criteria on the list, she was definitely a she.

    Never would have been able to tell until she didn't want to lie to me and told me she was a he. Complete with total sex change operations.

  10. #49202

    Great list!

    Also: Feet and hand size.

    Most women will have smaller feet and hands than a man of the same size.

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Yea, for the most part it is true that for the same hip width the female shoulders are narrower than a male shoulders. But, there is variability and it isn't always easy to tell based on that alone. Many things to consider include.

    1. Shoulder-hip ratio.

    2. Adams apple, which can be trimmed.

    3. Height (check for high heels versus flats). On average, Thai men are 10 cm taller than Thai women.

    4. Over exaggeration of feminine motions (hair toss etc.).

    5. Gate. They tend to hide this, but natural male walking motion keeps hips more still and shoulders move, female is the opposite.

    6. Voice (this is the #1 give away for me). Voice training is difficult.

    7. Friends. Not universal, but ladyboys tend to hang with other ladyboys.

    8. Price. If you are quoted a low price, more likely to be ladyboy.

    9. Face shape. Real girls tend to have more delicate features, not universal and not easy to detect.

  11. #49201

    Woops!

    Quote Originally Posted by JustIncognito  [View Original Post]
    Male shoulders are wider than their hips.

    Female shoulders are wider than their hips.

    From the shoulders down to the hips if the wide pat of the triangle is at the top-ts a man, pointy part of the triangle is at the top-its a woman.

    They can shave their adams apples down, take hormones, wear wigs, tuck a dick away-but can't flip the triangle.

    I earned that from a young man in the Philippines. 100% always works.
    I just saw that I wrote this wrong. Lets try again.

    Male shoulders are wider than their hips.

    Females hips are wider than their shoulders.

    The triangle never lies!

  12. #49200
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I guess we're different. If I get the cold shoulder I go talk to them to waste their time and annoy them.

    Never seen a younger guy get the cold shoulder at Thermae. At gogo bars yes because gogo girls are of the mentality that young guys don't have enough cash to buy them a ton of lady drinks. 30-50 would be target age for many gogo girls.
    LOL. Yeah I guess I could talk to them just to waste their time and annoy them. I'm in the 30 to 50 range, but look younger and have had FL's mistake me for military. IMHO, a cold shoulder could be indicative of performance. I'm not lacking for action here, so its no issue. Tinder has been really good to me here.

  13. #49199
    Quote Originally Posted by Detwing1  [View Original Post]
    I got the cold shoulder from the really hot ones, so it didn't make sense to pursue.
    I guess we're different. If I get the cold shoulder I go talk to them to waste their time and annoy them.

    Never seen a younger guy get the cold shoulder at Thermae. At gogo bars yes because gogo girls are of the mentality that young guys don't have enough cash to buy them a ton of lady drinks. 30-50 would be target age for many gogo girls.

  14. #49198
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Did you counter offer? Can't blame her for asking 3 k, that was probably her regular rate before Covid, and she might be hoping for a clueless or generous punter. I'm pretty sure she'd jump on a 2 k offer, and probably consider 1 k as well.
    Totally agree. In my experience this past year many girls still ask for pre-covid prices and then they instantly accept 2 k and are happy to get it.

  15. #49197

    Any Indian reached TH post Tourism Reopening (with Quarantine)

    Just wanted to know if any Indian reached TH post Tourism reopening. How was the quarantine experience?

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