Bangkok Reports

[LukasFlirt]

Yup went out with some buddies Tuesday hit a bunch Nana gogos and seen nothing. I mean it was terrible out there. I noticed a few hot girls I banged months back moved to offdek. I bought a few LDs and when the girl got closer I wasn't interested. Mind you I had many drinks this night and still couldn't find anything.

Their was a time when the gogos were better in BKK and Pattaya as prices were down and their was still hotties. Now it seems like many of the hottest gogo girls have realized their not making as much and the gogos are devoid of talent. Of course theirs some hotties esp on the weekend but if you're a regular you've likely already banged the few hotties left.

I really hope, some sunny day, that "there" "their" and "they're" is autocorrected because it's f#ng annoying, as a native english speaker, reading this.

[Gilolo]

The beginning of the end began when Cops raided Rainbow 4 and kicked out the illegal prostitoots.

On a steady decline since. Covid might have Killed Nana Plaza.

I hear maybe a Park. No appetite for Condos now.

Oh really? There was a Raid in Rainbow? I love this place in Nana Plaza and Madarin too! I fucked so many girls in Rainbow and Mandarin in 10 years!

[Gilolo]

Pretty certain you know Germany very well. Call it a hunch.

Look up the Germany AO clubs thread on ISG. However, guys have stopped openly posting BBFS in the Germany threads because it is now officially illegal and they don't want their clubs shut down for good. Guys never posted about BBFS at the big clubs because girls make those guys think they're special that only they are getting BBFS.

I don't do anal, I'm not an addict of this! But this year I can say in Thailand and Cambodia they all accepted BBFS. For 2 years, I've a box of condoms I didn't even opened! Just few girls asked me condoms to get more money. And with 500 or 1000 bahts more, girls accept BBFS.

[Banana Boi]

Well I was never in Germany so I didn't know it's easy to fuck bareback in Germany. Can you tell me the names of the bordels you go to fuck bareback?

Pretty certain you know Germany very well. Call it a hunch.

Look up the Germany AO clubs thread on ISG. However, guys have stopped openly posting BBFS in the Germany threads because it is now officially illegal and they don't want their clubs shut down for good. Guys never posted about BBFS at the big clubs because girls make those guys think they're special that only they are getting BBFS.

But yes in Thailand and Cambodia, I don't have any problem to fuck bareback the ost sexy working girls of BKK, Pattaya, Phuket, PP. It's so easy! If they don't want, like I say each time, just give 500 or 1000 TIP more and the problem is fixed!

Very informative information. What percentage of girls do BBFS anal then CIM then you DFK kthem?

[Lefeu]

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Sorry, but I have to disagree with it becoming the standard over the world. Only way to say something like that is when there are more ads with BBFS than safe sex but with BBBJ.
By default Germany bans it and local Dutch SW are becoming more prude and are even banning BBBJs.

I think you are underestimating the power of money. Working girls are in the business of selling sex, and they like money. Hence, if you make them a good offer, they may take you on it. I have had BBFS at one the fkks in Germany. Just like when they said no more BBBJ, only CBJ. I still got mostly BBBJ. In Thailand, some wgs aggressively market BBFS in the hope of collecting bigger tips.

[Turgid]

Yup went out with some buddies Tuesday hit a bunch Nana gogos and seen nothing. I mean it was terrible out there.....

Now tell me again why you guys are rushing to get back to Thailand? Me, I'll stick with my stout hookers. I´m sleeping in the comfort of my home and enjoying my familiar environment. They can keep their tests and quarantines.

[Oneminuteboy]

Ok maybe that poster was right and I do have very limited knowledge. I'll take the bait here. Other than some countries in SEA, Central America, and South America, I am not familiar with many other countries that "BBFS is becoming standard".

Your knowledge where "BBFS is becoming standard" in the following countries are helpful for me.

Netherlands.

Just some of the countries I have been to and I did not find "BBFS is becoming standard" or I plan to travel to soon as we can begin travel again.

I have to disappoint you, but that's definitely not the case in the Netherlands. In all honesty I'm seeing more safe sex being advertised with explicitly saying everything being with condom. One of the reasons I stopped doing my thing in the Netherlands.

I agree nowadays BBFS is becoming standard all over the world, I travel everywhere and 15 years ago it was a much harder and awkward conversation to talk about no condom now, it is becoming norm.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with it becoming the standard over the world. Only way to say something like that is when there are more ads with BBFS than safe sex but with BBBJ.
By default Germany bans it and local Dutch SW are becoming more prude and are even banning BBBJs.

[Gilolo]

OK the number is back to 90% now. Thanks for clarifying for all of us who get confused on how many girls in Thailand do BBFS + CIP. I bet ET and others who pre-negotiate BBFS + CIP service isn't even batting 90%.

Oddly the number is 90% in Europe don't do BBFS. Do you really believe your statement when it comes to Germany? There are tons of BBFS / AO clubs, lots of partytreff clubs, many smaller FKK and brothels where BBFS is a given. Even in a big popular FKK club BBFS is attainable with regular girls. Pretty sure that number accounts for more than 10% of the Germany working girls.

Well I was never in Germany so I didn't know it's easy to fuck bareback in Germany. Can you tell me the names of the bordels you go to fuck bareback? Usually in Europe, I love to fuck high sexy escorts and they never accept BBFS. But yes in Thailand and Cambodia, I don't have any problem to fuck bareback the ost sexy working girls of BKK, Pattaya, Phuket, PP. It's so easy! If they don't want, like I say each time, just give 500 or 1000 TIP more and the problem is fixed!

In Europe, even with 100 more they don't accept.

[Danny Duck]

The beginning of the end began when Cops raided Rainbow 4 and kicked out the illegal prostitoots.

On a steady decline since. Covid might have Killed Nana Plaza.

I hear maybe a Park. No appetite for Condos now.

[GinAndTonic555]

Yup went out with some buddies Tuesday hit a bunch Nana gogos and seen nothing. I mean it was terrible out there. I noticed a few hot girls I banged months back moved to offdek. I bought a few LDs and when the girl got closer I wasn't interested. Mind you I had many drinks this night and still couldn't find anything.

Their was a time when the gogos were better in BKK and Pattaya as prices were down and their was still hotties. Now it seems like many of the hottest gogo girls have realized their not making as much and the gogos are devoid of talent. Of course theirs some hotties esp on the weekend but if you're a regular you've likely already banged the few hotties left.

[EihTooms]

We need to tak about QUALITY.

There's an issue, lads.

And it's not only me who did notice it.

Our regular farang spots are packed with unfuckable ugly girls.

Yesterday evening I was horny and in the mood for walking.

I didn't fuck.

Started in Soi 24 ally: ugly & empty.

Soi 24/1: ugly & empty.

Soi 33: empty.

I was then planning to go to Thonglor for Momo or Pretty: I was too late.

Back to Nana: none even worth a 6.

Today daytime.

Still horny: so I thought. Blowjob bar!

Lolitas: 3 girls, 1 okay.

Kasalong: hell no 1 of those girls would even touch my penis.

Soi 7/1: You start and there are promos for 500 Baht. Ugly & old. Wood: ugly. At the end of ally ladyboys. All bars: girls offering Blowjobs 500-800 Baht. Sex lower than 1 K. I did found 1 cutie, so I got a BJ for 700 baht.

Are there no sexy girls anymore? Sure!

I did bang some hot chicks from Tinder for 1-2 K THB.

There are massage saloons all over the plac with hot & young chicks.

And the Japanese saloons do have a lot of the young ones.

It's just totally different.

lol. No, it's not only you who has noticed. And it isn't just a deficit of lookers. It is also a deficit of sexual skills and/or a willingness to give better service. It is just the opposite of what most Western sensibilities suggest is the proper response to dire economic circumstances. The best of them on both fronts left for their province months ago and might never return.

I have mentioned that most of the guys who are stuck in their home country and unable to get to Thailand should not lose any sleep worrying about how things here are just as they were during normal times in terms of number of girls and percentage of more than doable girls but, ah paradise, the lookers are now really fucking, sucking and swallowing with a passion for rock bottom prices because there are so few customers and they call all the shots. Nope.

To be sure, I feel damn lucky to be living in Bangkok now instead of anywhere in the USA. But, as you said, it's just totally different (from normal times). And, I will add, not exactly better in ways one might assume or fantasize it would be.

I treasure my humble stable of favorite repeats and regulars more than ever these days. I have told friends outside of the country and mentioned here that I have met exactly ONE (1) new girl since the closures that I have even remotely wanted to repeat. And I am more or less on the hunt every day or night I walk outside of my apartment (not massage shops and soapies though, which are not my thing).

The rest of my favorite girls I repeat are the best of the girls I was already seeing during normal times who also happened to need to stay in Bangkok for one reason or another. Mostly because they were semi-freelancers or regular girls with regular jobs here who were staying LT with me once or twice a week for all the usual reasons. A few are go-go girls who soon enough resorted to calling me in advance to see if I am going to their bar any night this week and which night so they can decide if it would be worth traveling to lower Sukhumvit to clock in. Now they just go directly to asking to see me on their night off. 2,000 baht plus taxi for LT that starts before 10PM.

And no way am I going to hard ball negotiate them down to 1,000! As I said, I treasure the good ones I know more than ever who are winners on both fronts; a certain minimum level of attractiveness AND sexual skills and willingness. It's not like that combination is popping up all over the place in abundance these days.

I stopped in Crazy House Soi Cowboy/Soi 23 last Friday night about 8:30PM. That the quality of this bar's line up has declined over the past couple of years is nothing new. But, I swear, I sat through two dance sets, almost 30 naked girls on a stage with only me and one other dude, a Japanese guy, sitting in the place for almost an hour. And there was not one girl on that stage I would fuck for free even if I was not required to cum inside her.

[Mens2]

We need to tak about QUALITY.

There's an issue, lads.

And it's not only me who did notice it.

Our regular farang spots are packed with unfuckable ugly girls.

Yesterday evening I was horny and in the mood for walking.

I didn't fuck.

Started in Soi 24 ally: ugly & empty.

Soi 24/1: ugly & empty.

Soi 33: empty.

I was then planning to go to Thonglor for Momo or Pretty: I was too late.

Back to Nana: none even worth a 6.

Today daytime.

Still horny: so I thought. Blowjob bar!

Lolitas: 3 girls, 1 okay.

Kasalong: hell no 1 of those girls would even touch my penis.

Soi 7/1: You start and there are promos for 500 Baht. Ugly & old. Wood: ugly. At the end of ally ladyboys. All bars: girls offering Blowjobs 500-800 Baht. Sex lower than 1 K. I did found 1 cutie, so I got a BJ for 700 baht.

Are there no sexy girls anymore? Sure!

I did bang some hot chicks from Tinder for 1-2 K THB.

There are massage saloons all over the plac with hot & young chicks.

And the Japanese saloons do have a lot of the young ones.

It's just totally different.

[GrapeMan]

Yes, I often see pop up ads for FKKs touting their "Girlfriend Experience," which decades ago was code for "no condom fucking available" for some sex-tourism destinations. Presumably, some FKKs are hanging onto the old school definition of it.

Somewhere along the way "GFE" mutated into meaning something quite a bit less objectively sex-specific and into something that means whatever the escort service or shop menu author wants it to mean vs whatever the prospective customer hopes it means. Essentially objectively nothing and subjectively anything and everything.

But in most cases today (outside of those particular FKKs?) the P4P girl who claims to provide a "GFE" is only playing on the prospective customer's hopes with no intention whatsoever of providing BBFS+CIP as either standard or upcharged service.

There's still FKKs and partytreffs and special events things and girls in Netherlands and Germany that do BBFS everything. Less than there used to be but its still plenty available. Its just that any "regular" girl would downright refuse, its got to be the right spot with the girl (s) that specifically advertise they offer it. You can find it without issue, but its not just going to be show up to some random place and it'll happen.

But yes GFE absolutely does not mean BBFS, its a style of experience

[EihTooms]

OK the number is back to 90% now. Thanks for clarifying for all of us who get confused on how many girls in Thailand do BBFS + CIP. I bet ET and others who pre-negotiate BBFS + CIP service isn't even batting 90%.

Oddly the number is 90% in Europe don't do BBFS. Do you really believe your statement when it comes to Germany? There are tons of BBFS / AO clubs, lots of partytreff clubs, many smaller FKK and brothels where BBFS is a given. Even in a big popular FKK club BBFS is attainable with regular girls. Pretty sure that number accounts for more than 10% of the Germany working girls.

Yes, I often see pop up ads for FKKs touting their "Girlfriend Experience," which decades ago was code for "no condom fucking available" for some sex-tourism destinations. Presumably, some FKKs are hanging onto the old school definition of it.

Somewhere along the way "GFE" mutated into meaning something quite a bit less objectively sex-specific and into something that means whatever the escort service or shop menu author wants it to mean vs whatever the prospective customer hopes it means. Essentially objectively nothing and subjectively anything and everything.

But in most cases today (outside of those particular FKKs?) the P4P girl who claims to provide a "GFE" is only playing on the prospective customer's hopes with no intention whatsoever of providing BBFS+CIP as either standard or upcharged service.

[Banana Boi]

In other countries like Europe, I's very difficult to fuck bareback! Even with more money in Europe, they don't accept! In Europe 90% will refuse.

In Thailand or Cambodia 90% accept!

OK the number is back to 90% now. Thanks for clarifying for all of us who get confused on how many girls in Thailand do BBFS + CIP. I bet ET and others who pre-negotiate BBFS + CIP service isn't even batting 90%.

Oddly the number is 90% in Europe don't do BBFS. Do you really believe your statement when it comes to Germany? There are tons of BBFS / AO clubs, lots of partytreff clubs, many smaller FKK and brothels where BBFS is a given. Even in a big popular FKK club BBFS is attainable with regular girls. Pretty sure that number accounts for more than 10% of the Germany working girls.