Bangkok Reports

[MarquisdeSade1]

So ET is the antichrist

Great post BBoi.

ET= a perfect role model for mongers globally.

If someone is flying to Asia or anywhere to bang 3rd world hookers and are worried about that guy banging them bb.

He needs to just stay home and watch porn, instead of expecting us to lower our level enjoyment for some imagined benefit to him.

Do all these condom zealots use condoms for everything? DATY? BJs? DFK?

Hookers suck many penis, many monger penis have genital warts and hpv.

Where do they stop? Where is the arbitrary line they draw?

[EihTooms]

So ET is the antichrist for you! There's also a guy on here who CLAIMS that 90% (sometimes it's only 60% depending on his post) of the girls he fucks in Thailand do BBFS so you may want to follow his posts closely. I believe he also says the ones who don't allow him to do BBFS he will take off his condom when the girl isn't looking and fuck her BBFS.

Thailand likely isn't the place for you if you don't like girls who do BBFS. If not all paying customers definitely regular customers and for sure they are fucking their Thai BF BBFS. We also know their Thai BF is fucking many other girls BBFS as well. Sadly that is the truth. Even worse are Cambodia, Jakarta, and I understand PI where girls don't even know what a condom is.

On this topic, a couple of things about my previous reference to BBFS+CIP as "Real Sex". The origin of it had nothing to do with contrasting it to condom covered penis-vagina sex as "fake sex." It and the related "True GFE" came about because I had read so many reports where a session was described as "a Great GFE" or "terrific Full Service" and when you scratched the surface you found out no DFK was allowed, no BBBJ+CIM was allowed, no BBBJ even as foreplay was allowed. Seriously?

And around that same time a few long time posters admitted that when they mentioned "fucking" or BBFS in their reports it almost always actually meant they pulled out and masturbated onto the girl's tits, face or other body part. Uh. Ok. Different strokes for different folks, of course.

Therefore, my feeling was unless somebody specifically stated that they paid for and got Real Sex, covered or not, I could not automatically assume that meant the report or review was about fucking to a fucking finish with a penis in a vagina (nor could anyone else) but could easily mean they had one of those generously liberal and spiritually pleasant definitions of sex handjobs at best, perhaps with a little oral or vaginal foreplay thrown in.

And it might shock some to find out that whenever I am negotiating the terms of sex with a Thai girl in person or online and I tell them I am only interested in "real sex", using exactly those words for the first time with them, almost always the girl's very next immediate response is on the topic of requiring a condom or not despite the fact that I had not uttered or written the word "condom" yet.

So I have little doubt the vast majority of Thai girls, P4P or not, consider BBFS+CIP to be Real Sex, already know what that means and that covered sex could be regarded as something else even if a few posters on ISG choose not to see it that way.

Yep. I would be a very busy boy on Mondays and Tuesdays with no barfine to pay.

I'm assuming contracts will be 10 days over 2 weeks with 2 days off per week. Girls will love that. Can gogo bars still afford to pay girls contracts post COVID?

The go-go girls I repeat occasionally are not very forth coming about this but maybe yours have told you whether or not the mamasans are demanding a bigger or more frequent kick back on the fee a girl gets for her time with a customer these days.

In my case at least, that could explain why some girls absolutely will not budge far below 3,000 for ST or 5,000 for LT when I want to take them from IN the bar with the mamasan on duty the first time but will easily agree to 2,000 - 2,500 for LT later when the mamasan is not anywhere around or part of the deal.

[Franciscass]

I remember when this forum had great reports and was providing invaluable guidance to both locals and tourists alike.

Ah the good old days.

As for what a member is or is not allowed to post, I believe as long as it's within the rules it should be ok. I for one want to know which girls in which shop is offering BBFS, I need to know so that I can cross that girl off my list. But that's just me, she'll lose my patronage but gain someone else's.

Just back Nic and already in the thick of it with the current preoccupation about BB sex.

I have enough experience and I guess you also from your visits to realize the reality most girls do not risk their heath from unprotected sex with customers.

Obviously some do and seemingly enough to satisfy those that need or prefer it au natural.

I sometimes carry condoms but mostly the girl whips it out when we get to the boom boom phase.

If on the rare occasion neither of us has one it would be then oh ok just BJ darling.

Whether meantime she is fucking half of Bangkok without a condom is immaterial to me.

[Banana Boi]

I for one want to know which girls in which shop is offering BBFS, I need to know so that I can cross that girl off my list.

So ET is the antichrist for you! There's also a guy on here who CLAIMS that 90% (sometimes it's only 60% depending on his post) of the girls he fucks in Thailand do BBFS so you may want to follow his posts closely. I believe he also says the ones who don't allow him to do BBFS he will take off his condom when the girl isn't looking and fuck her BBFS.

Thailand likely isn't the place for you if you don't like girls who do BBFS. If not all paying customers definitely regular customers and for sure they are fucking their Thai BF BBFS. We also know their Thai BF is fucking many other girls BBFS as well. Sadly that is the truth. Even worse are Cambodia, Jakarta, and I understand PI where girls don't even know what a condom is.

I assume every go-go bar punter reading this has already easily figured out that if those girls are going to be available to session at any time all day and all night at least twice per week without having to buy even one Ladydrink, pay a barine, meet her at 4pm or wait until 3am, then it will be even tougher for those bars to make money. They might become sort of a live and in-person first meet Line info exchange Tinder shop.

Yep. I would be a very busy boy on Mondays and Tuesdays with no barfine to pay.

I'm assuming contracts will be 10 days over 2 weeks with 2 days off per week. Girls will love that. Can gogo bars still afford to pay girls contracts post COVID?

[Franciscass]

Well that's your choice but I won't cross the girls off my list but rather if I do go to that club I would ask her if she does BBFS and if her answer is in the affirmative I would then avoid her. If in the negative and she's hot then its time for action. Like you I prefer girls who are more concerned for their health.

Regarding your comment on the dearth of great posts be reminded that there is a pandemic on and posters here who are actually in Thailand are in the minority now. What I have gleaned from those posters who are in Thailand is that the scene is way down from what it was pre pandemic. Even if I could I would not venture there at this time. That's my choice and I believe that anyone who could go and wants to should go.

From someone living here I can say it's the best of times and the worst of times.

The best of times because we have very few incidents of infection and when there are as happened recently with girls returning from Myanmar without quarantining it appears if we can believe the authorities the outbreak is quickly contained by vigorous contact tracing. Everywhere is open shopping restaurants bars cinemas with lots of discounts and special offers. Onto to the P4P scene, yes more subdued for sure and not as many girls working but because of lack of customers it's a buyer's market. I live in Bangkok so I can't speak for Pattaya or Phuket but here at least as I wander hither and thither on any given day or night I can find lots of talent available. On top while this hasn't been the experience of some other members I find the ladies more eager to please.

The worst of times. So many Thais struggling to make ends meet and a post-apocalyptic feel in lower Sukhumvit with so many shops shuttered and those that are still open with so few customers. The ranks of the street trade is particularly sad swollen with older desperate women looking forlornly for any business knowing is unlikely to come their way.

As I said the best of times and the worst of times.

[EihTooms]

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I for one want to know which girls in which shop is offering BBFS, I need to know so that I can cross that girl off my list. But that's just me, she'll lose my patronage but gain someone else's.

But isn't that what condoms are for?

Bear in mind, I would be surprised if there are more than 2 punters in all of Thailand with a recent normal blood check test result document for a couple of biggies who negotiate upfront, soberly and relatively early in the evening for boom boom no condom/BBFS+CIP as I do.

The rest get it having never seen the inside of a blood testing clinic and, according to some, get it so routinely that they consider BBFS+CIP to be "the norm" in the Thai P4P scene by making sure the girl has plenty of booze in her system and "going with the flow and see what happens in the room." Add an offer of more money or catch them after closing time when they have few if any other customer options and you're amost certainly in.

Also, my guess is pretty near 100% of the girls who were riding along drunk as a skunk on that "flow" two nights earlier will still tell another customer at 9pm that they never do such things. They probably even told the "go with the flow" customer from two nights earlier that! Lol. I think you can take it to the bank that every hooker you meet, not just in Thailand, is engaging in BBFS+CIP with some customers sometime. And most certainly with their boyfriends, landlords, occasional sponsors, etc.

[EihTooms]

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Ok, here's a more serious report:

Recently, a Rainbow 4 girl told me that their shop will close Mondays and Tuesdays. Apparently, it just went into effect this past week. She also mentioned that some other bars in Nana would change their schedule to close on these days as well due to the continued low number of customer visits. I haven't personally confirmed her information. But for me, Mondays and Tuesdays were never great days anyways to visit gogos.

Interesting that they chose Mondays and Tuesdays to be closed. At least up to last week Billboard and Butterflies were closed on Sundays and Mondays. Maybe they are switching it to Mondays and Tuesdays, too.

I assume every go-go bar punter reading this has already easily figured out that if those girls are going to be available to session at any time all day and all night at least twice per week without having to buy even one Ladydrink, pay a barine, meet her at 4pm or wait until 3am, then it will be even tougher for those bars to make money. They might become sort of a live and in-person first meet Line info exchange Tinder shop.

At least they aren't going with internet streaming.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Just say what you arranged and what you paid, that's relevant information. Use forum defined terms like CFS, BBFS-CIP, CBJ, and BBBJ-CIM. No need for secondary terms like real and fake sex. Flamers can flame if they want, but do it in the safe sex section. I have to admit that I enjoyed the old analogy of spitting in the stew.

Any "sex" with a condom is not real sex but rather a pathetic simulation ala 640 p with dial up LOL.

Condoms are a feminist plot to rob men of sexual pleasure, if you don't enjoy it, you won't do it.

They don't want men getting pleasure from women, but if we use a condom and overpay, they will be quite happy LOL.

Paying someone for a HJ? WTF? I guess you could pay someone to pick your nose also but why would someone?

[Turgid]

I remember when this forum had great reports and was providing invaluable guidance to both locals and tourists alike.

Ah the good old days.

As for what a member is or is not allowed to post, I believe as long as it's within the rules it should be ok. I for one want to know which girls in which shop is offering BBFS, I need to know so that I can cross that girl off my list. But that's just me, she'll lose my patronage but gain someone else's.

Well that's your choice but I won't cross the girls off my list but rather if I do go to that club I would ask her if she does BBFS and if her answer is in the affirmative I would then avoid her. If in the negative and she's hot then its time for action. Like you I prefer girls who are more concerned for their health.

Regarding your comment on the dearth of great posts be reminded that there is a pandemic on and posters here who are actually in Thailand are in the minority now. What I have gleaned from those posters who are in Thailand is that the scene is way down from what it was pre pandemic. Even if I could I would not venture there at this time. That's my choice and I believe that anyone who could go and wants to should go.

[T Chizzle]

Recently, I barfined this bar girl from what is known to be the best gogo bar with the most attractive girls in all of Bangkok. Her attractiveness was off-the-charts hot; the only kind of girl that someone like James Bond could attract. As soon as I walked into that gogo bar where this girl worked, all eyes were on me. You could sense the hyped-up, sexual tension and excitement in that bar skyrocket up as soon as I walked in. Immediately, all the girls there started fighting to have a chance to sit with me. One fugly-looking gogo chick (an 8. 8 out of 10 based on a vague, monger-created, attractiveness metric) dared to approach me first and offered to sit with an O. G. Pimp like myself. I rebuffed her unsolicited advance towards me and said, "heck no; go away fugly gogo chick lady. I only sit and drink with dimes (10.0). " Her unsightly 8. 8 figure quickly walked away from my personal space, and my eyes quickly searched out my required 10's. I found her. The most attractive of all attractive gogo girls in Bangkok. I looked at her. She looked at me. A slow-motion of mutual attraction and long-distance gazing happened between us that seemed to last for hours. I motioned to her with a finger to come sit next to me, and of course she came to me. Why wouldn't she? Since my current net worth is currently valued at $3. 2 billion. It would have been $4. 6 be, but the COVID this year is really making life not as pleasurable as it should be. Of course, this gogo chick had no idea about my net worth, but it just makes me feel good to talk about my net worth; my great value. I love my life. Anyways, so the hot 10.0 came to sit next me. I waved to the waitress, so that she could come take our drink orders. She handed me the drink menu. I looked through it, but at the same time wondering how much damage would this do to my net worth. I was concerned that I might spend too much for the night. I played it safe and told the waitress, "Kind lady, I will have your cheapest beer and this hot gogo girl next to me will have nothing but your finest iced water. " The waitress and the gogo girl were initially a little confused but were both so charmed by my good looks. And the waitress didn't even question my sanity and proceeded to get the ordered drinks.

Fast forward to the good part of this fantastic story. I barfined this girl and took her for LT. At what price you might wonder? Absolutely nothing. Sure, the barfine was not negotiable. But the gogo girl's LT price? Dirt cheap; 500 baht. Don't ask me to confirm and verify. You'll just have to go to that bar and find out for yourself. But of course your LT price with this hot 10.0 gogo girl will probably be a lot more than my discounted price. That's just how it is my friend. Some of us mongers have it good. And others just suck at this mongering game.

And there she was with me in my great mansion in Bangkok. My great score for the night. I live to prowl through the grimy nightlife and sidewalks of Bangkok every night to find what I so desperately need and require; hot 10.0 attractive gogo girls. If you've only had lower-tiered girls in your lifetime, then you're missing out. And if you've been paying too high of a premium for these dimes, then you're well; paying too high. Everyone knows you're not supposed to pay the asking price here in Thailand. Who does that? You don't get to have a $3. 2 be net worth like myself by paying asking price my friend. And as for my good, rugged looks that could easily attract the hottest of non-P4 P girls but I'm just too lazy to put in effort and pursue those hot freebies; well these looks are a result of good family genetics. If you somehow can't attract the good-looking P4 P girls like myself, then like I said before. Some just suck at this mongering game. And others like myself have to deal with the hassles of juggling life with hot attractive P4 P and non-P4 P girls all the time. It's a hassle to make the decision to go out prowling the night life. It's a hassle to negotiate P4 P terms. It's a hassle to negotiate requirements. It's even more of a hassle when the hot attractive girl is so clingy to the point of the girl wanting to spend more time with you than you can handle. Sometimes I just feel so smothered by so many beautiful and attractive girls in my life here in Bangkok. Anyways, continuing on.

Now here is the nitty gritty unsolicited details that you mongering readers need to know. She was really a nasty freak. She just loved to get down with sex all the time. She was like, any time of day, she was like: "Yeah, let's go. I'm so nasty. " And I'd be nailing her. She'd be like: "Oh, you're nailing me. Cool. " She loved to dirty-talk. Totally into it. She'd be like: "Yeah, let's screw, let's. I want to do it. " God, it was so dirty. She'd be like, "Me so horny, me love you long time. " Yeah, she had great tits. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they were nice. You know, when you, like, you grab a woman's breast and it's; And you feel it and; it feels like a bag of sand when you're touching it. Yeah. I felt like a 40-year Old Virgin with her that night.

The morning came. The sun rose. I gave her 500 baht as agreed for letting me use her warm receptive body for my own pleasure. I got what I wanted and needed. She got paid a fair price in reference to my cheap pricing standards. Fair is fair. I will rinse and repeat this mongering hunting cycle again until well; I guess until I can't function as a manly-man anymore or my inevitable death; whichever comes first. The end.

And that's my report to you guys about my recent Bangkok experience. Some of you may complain that some details were completely unnecessary. Ok, probably all of it. I say to those complainers that you're probably right. I apologize for wasting your time with unnecessary details. I just don't feel the need to edit my own experience and feel as though all the details of my experience can help you in your decision to either visit this bar or not. Again, sorry if you read through this story and didn't find any value for your mongering life. But it's my story, and the only person that matters is me. It's all about me and my pleasurable experiences.

Also, just a reminder that's found on the ISG FAQ:

"Is all the information in the Forum accurate? - Most definitely not. Some of it is outdated, other parts have been contributed by guys with strange tastes, and still others might even have come from sex workers pretending to be pleased customers or from law enforcement. Use your judgement. ".

LOL.

Ok, here's a more serious report:

Recently, a Rainbow 4 girl told me that their shop will close Mondays and Tuesdays. Apparently, it just went into effect this past week. She also mentioned that some other bars in Nana would change their schedule to close on these days as well due to the continued low number of customer visits. I haven't personally confirmed her information. But for me, Mondays and Tuesdays were never great days anyways to visit gogos.

[NicFrenchy]

I remember when this forum had great reports and was providing invaluable guidance to both locals and tourists alike.

Ah the good old days.

As for what a member is or is not allowed to post, I believe as long as it's within the rules it should be ok. I for one want to know which girls in which shop is offering BBFS, I need to know so that I can cross that girl off my list. But that's just me, she'll lose my patronage but gain someone else's.

[HorseTrader]

Just say what you arranged and what you paid, that's relevant information. Use forum defined terms like CFS, BBFS-CIP, CBJ, and BBBJ-CIM. No need for secondary terms like real and fake sex. Flamers can flame if they want, but do it in the safe sex section. I have to admit that I enjoyed the old analogy of spitting in the stew.

[EihTooms]

ET with respect the precise number of times you posted about how you like your sex is superfluous. What is in no doubt, what is undeniable is that for some reason you do keep mentioning it. Yes one can use the ignore option if it bothers them but a lot of what you post has value so I would suggest that as we now all know, in fact are in no doubt about what you require perhaps there is no need to continue mentioning it and then all this nonsense will go away.

If I may also add part of what I personally find annoying is your continually suggesting that people who for sound health reasons practice safe sex are not having real sex only fake sex. I don't go BBFS but be in no doubt I fully enjoy sex because for me there is a lot more to the experience than going in and out of a pussy whether my dick is covered or not and it's not like I don't know the difference, I've had my fair share of BBFS. To finish on a conciliatory note I'll give you of course it is better but then not enough to risk my health which of course is a whole other conversation.

The reason I mention it in my reports is no different than the reason a poster who generally wants, pick one or more, DFK, Anal, Rimming, big boobs, shaved pussy, slim build, pretty face, no dick, etc. mentions some of those things in his reports if they are to provide any detail at all about who and what was negotiated for and achieved. Clearly, the idea that "we now all know" what I mean when I say I barfined a girl and the sex was good or bad does not apply if you've read the last few posts. There are a lot of readers, new readers, long absent readers and so on who DON'T know. We only "know" that a handful of posters do get riled up and must say something about it if I mention a sexual act I generally negotiate for in my reports where pertinent.

Which, BTW, is about the same amount of posters if not fewer who have PM'd me over the years about that exact same subject except in support of my posts, wanting more info but who don't want to get thrown on the grille and shamed for doing so here in the regular threads.

The concept of "fake sex" is not one I have pushed that I can recall. I think other posters came up with that one. However, I would say if it is going to be casually accepted on a worldwide P4P discussion board that, for example, getting a handjob is having sex every bit as legitimately as engaging in BBFS+CIP, then there really does need to be some more specific terminology posted each and every time and one can not automatically assume that someone is talking about "real sex" when they say this is what I paid to take a girl at such-and-such bar and "we had sex." I am ok to go back to the old standby "BBFS+CIP" when I am referring in a report about me having and certainly paying for something that imo is not legitimately in the same universe as a handjob, masturbating on a girl's tits or spanking her bare bottom.

Franciscass, I appreciate your and other's generously wide-ranging liberal notion of what is "sex". Very nice. But surely you can see how it can't possibly be good in the short or long run for any P4P destination if 25-30% or whatever of the readership on a board like this one is in any way led to believe the 4,000 baht a very nice punter paid an escort, a soapy girl or a bargirl was "for sex" but in reality it only meant he got a handjob, a covered BJ or a head and neck massage, even a truly memorable one.

[Allover]

Because most of the time paying for a girl is less headaches than Freebie girls.

And it's usually cheaper.

[Franciscass]

A few months ago when there was another overly emotional, irrational flare-up about, as I recall, my mentioning what I negotiated for (BBFS+CIP) in a report for the obvious sake of clarity about what was on the table, I challenged anyone to direct me to all these supposed "10 times in every post", "9 times in a post", "in every single post", "continually" posts of mine where I referred to BBFS+CIP/Real Sex other than when I was commenting on the topic in a side discussion about it initiated by someone else (as in this case) or responding to a question about it posed by someone else.

That was a few months ago. So far there has been zippidy do dah nothing from anyone. Including from you, Franciscass. I mean, according to some, it ought to be easy to find hundreds of them just from this past year and no posts about anything else. But no. Uh..is there some weird Trumpian projection thing going on here?

ET with respect the precise number of times you posted about how you like your sex is superfluous. What is in no doubt, what is undeniable is that for some reason you do keep mentioning it. Yes one can use the ignore option if it bothers them but a lot of what you post has value so I would suggest that as we now all know, in fact are in no doubt about what you require perhaps there is no need to continue mentioning it and then all this nonsense will go away.

If I may also add part of what I personally find annoying is your continually suggesting that people who for sound health reasons practice safe sex are not having real sex only fake sex. I don't go BBFS but be in no doubt I fully enjoy sex because for me there is a lot more to the experience than going in and out of a pussy whether my dick is covered or not and it's not like I don't know the difference, I've had my fair share of BBFS. To finish on a conciliatory note I'll give you of course it is better but then not enough to risk my health which of course is a whole other conversation.