Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

Come on ET for some reason best known to yourself you continuously post about your need for Real Sex, Real Sex BBFS / CIP, BBBJ / CIM as opposed to "Vanilla Sex". If you stopped quite apart from being less boring and dull nobody would give a fiddler's fuck what your sexual predilections are and wouldn't be commenting on them.

You know your latest explanation relating Real Sex BBFS to procreation reminds me of the Catholic Churches teaching on contraception that sex should only happen with the intention of conceiving. Anything there, closeted Catholic perhaps?.

Anyway ET your informative updates on the Bangkok scene are always welcomed, even those extraordinary tales of your latest trysts with beautiful 20 year olds who give you everything you need for free even wanting to come back for more can be entertaining for all the voyeurists out there.

A few months ago when there was another overly emotional, irrational flare-up about, as I recall, my mentioning what I negotiated for (BBFS+CIP) in a report for the obvious sake of clarity about what was on the table, I challenged anyone to direct me to all these supposed "10 times in every post", "9 times in a post", "in every single post", "continually" posts of mine where I referred to BBFS+CIP/Real Sex other than when I was commenting on the topic in a side discussion about it initiated by someone else (as in this case) or responding to a question about it posed by someone else.

That was a few months ago. So far there has been zippidy do dah nothing from anyone. Including from you, Franciscass. I mean, according to some, it ought to be easy to find hundreds of them just from this past year and no posts about anything else. But no. Uh..is there some weird Trumpian projection thing going on here?

[Banana Boi]

I still don't understand why a guy who gets Free Hot Girls at Shopping Malls is even toying with Prostitoots.

Some things I just don't get.

Because most of the time paying for a girl is less headaches than Freebie girls.

[Danny Duck]

Come on ET for some reason best known to yourself you continuously post about your need for Real Sex, Real Sex BBFS / CIP, BBBJ / CIM as opposed to "Vanilla Sex". If you stopped quite apart from being less boring and dull nobody would give a fiddler's fuck what your sexual predilections are and wouldn't be commenting on them.

You know your latest explanation relating Real Sex BBFS to procreation reminds me of the Catholic Churches teaching on contraception that sex should only happen with the intention of conceiving. Anything there, closeted Catholic perhaps?.

Anyway ET your informative updates on the Bangkok scene are always welcomed, even those extraordinary tales of your latest trysts with beautiful 20 year olds who give you everything you need for free even wanting to come back for more can be entertaining for all the voyeurists out there.

I still don't understand why a guy who gets Free Hot Girls at Shopping Malls is even toying with Prostitoots.

Some things I just don't get.

[NicFrenchy]

Consequently, on the issue of posting clear photos, names, exact locations and so on I am naturally wary of doing any of that in my reports or even in PMs. I am not telling anyone else not to do it, of course. But no way would I do that.

I believe the Cyber Crime Act is now tougher than ever so I would understand the reluctance of some to go into too deep details.

https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-tex...crime-act.html

[EihTooms]

That specific poster considers sex real only if he gets to finish in the working girl's pussy, thus maximizing the chances of transmitting any diseases he might have, and perhaps leaving an unwanted child for her to raise as well.

Sure, he might tell her and us he is tested and 100% clean (as if he could know) and had a vasectomy, but we all know how much truth there is in this business.

Fake sex, by implication, is one where the girl has some chance of mitigating the risks to her safety and well-being.

To normalize this behavior, he makes an effort to mention it in every single post.

Attention Franciscass: Are you taking note and keeping track of these overly emotional, bareback/no condom shaming (not to mention ridiculously inaccurate mathematically! Lol) and damning posts? An earlier poster said I deserved graphic and repeated death threats for directing a fellow punter on another board to a particulatly good service provider in a BJ Bar. And that one was only about a standard BBBJ+CIM+Spit!

Imagine how many dangerous kooks are out there not even posting stuff like the above but seething, gnashing their teeth and perfectly capable of causing problems for posters, the girls, the mamasans who facilitate BBFS+CIP sessions with their girls, etc. The mamasans who facilitate BBBJ+CIM sessions with their girls too, apparently.

Consequently, on the issue of posting clear photos, names, exact locations and so on I am naturally wary of doing any of that in my reports or even in PMs. I am not telling anyone else not to do it, of course. But no way would I do that.

[Franciscass]

I found bluntly referring to it as BBFS+CIP riled up and provoked strange and passionate responses from some posters and presumably even more readers here.

Come on ET for some reason best known to yourself you continuously post about your need for Real Sex, Real Sex BBFS / CIP, BBBJ / CIM as opposed to "Vanilla Sex". If you stopped quite apart from being less boring and dull nobody would give a fiddler's fuck what your sexual predilections are and wouldn't be commenting on them.

You know your latest explanation relating Real Sex BBFS to procreation reminds me of the Catholic Churches teaching on contraception that sex should only happen with the intention of conceiving. Anything there, closeted Catholic perhaps?.

Anyway ET your informative updates on the Bangkok scene are always welcomed, even those extraordinary tales of your latest trysts with beautiful 20 year olds who give you everything you need for free even wanting to come back for more can be entertaining for all the voyeurists out there.

[Crocodilexp]

I've been away for a while so pardon my stupidity.

What the difference between real sex and fake sex? (yes, I am really asking, not trying to be sarcastic).

That specific poster considers sex real only if he gets to finish in the working girl's pussy, thus maximizing the chances of transmitting any diseases he might have, and perhaps leaving an unwanted child for her to raise as well.

Sure, he might tell her and us he is tested and 100% clean (as if he could know) and had a vasectomy, but we all know how much truth there is in this business.

Fake sex, by implication, is one where the girl has some chance of mitigating the risks to her safety and well-being.

To normalize this behavior, he makes an effort to mention it in every single post.

[NicFrenchy]

I can't say exactly what was meant by "fake sex" or what measures one has to take to ensure it is "fake"

Understood. I think sex is sex and we all have a different perspective of it (or different kinks if you will).

Some days I'm happy with a HJ, other days I'm only satisfied with FS.

To me, in the P4 P industry, it's all fake and real sex is the one you don't have to pay for (although it's the one that often is the more expensive).

[GinAndTonic555]

Though ET I will say most people here know that you want "real sex" as I'm sure most people here prefer the fake kind but you do not need to repeat it 10 times per post unless you get some sort of kick back per mention or something than I digress. Also that you can get this "real sex" for like 54.8% cheaper with your FLers or whatever, we get it. You also don't have to repeat it 9 times per post..

Him clarifying real sex. I'm in a private line chat with a small group of Thai expats and we always clarify if it was real sex but we just use the term BB. No BB it doesn't count.

[EihTooms]

I've been away for a while so pardon my stupidity.

What the difference between real sex and fake sex? (yes, I am really asking, not trying to be sarcastic).

I can't say exactly what was meant by "fake sex" or what measures one has to take to ensure it is "fake". But I have occasionally used the euphamism "Real Sex" to refer to penile-vaginal intercourse with a cum inside finish, the kind of sex one needs to engage in to intentionally produce an offspring (therefore, "real", despite having gotten a vasectomy in order to better prevent unwanted pregnancy) in part because I found bluntly referring to it as BBFS+CIP riled up and provoked strange and passionate responses from some posters and presumably even more readers here.

I can see it really doesn't matter. I might as well go back to bluntly stating it as BBFS+CIP where suitable and pertinent in a report. And it would not understandably confuse newbies or anyone else who does not know the history of it.

[NicFrenchy]

most people here know that you want "real sex" as I'm sure most people here prefer the fake kind

I've been away for a while so pardon my stupidity.

What the difference between real sex and fake sex? (yes, I am really asking, not trying to be sarcastic).

[GettingFedUp]

It seems Insanity on Sukhumvit Soi 11 got raided a couple of nights ago. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...gkok-club-raid.

Read into it what you will. My take is that there's probably been a deficiency is the administration and distribution of brown envelopes.

[EihTooms]

I'm not in Bangkok so I for one love hearing the actual on the ground reports at this current time since there are no tourists so I appreciate the reports.

Though ET I will say most people here know that you want "real sex" as I'm sure most people here prefer the fake kind but you do not need to repeat it 10 times per post unless you get some sort of kick back per mention or something than I digress. Also that you can get this "real sex" for like 54.8% cheaper with your FLers or whatever, we get it. You also don't have to repeat it 9 times per post.

I still thank you for the actual reports though so I guess I will take the good with the bad but I want to share something that I was taught when I was young. Less is more.

What if the experience I am reporting on leads to one girl declining or refusing to engage in Real Sex with me, only no-go covered sex or BBBJ+CIM instead, but the next one does? Or what if the first one changes her mind the next time she sees me?

Is it ok with you if I mention a critical difference in the deal like that in my reports when there is a critical difference like that or would you rather I leave out that critical detail and just let it be mistakenly assumed by some that the first girl refused standard Thai P4P fare covered sex with me at any price? And maybe the next one, too.

How about if I refer to that critical detail as merely RS or, better, as rs in order to avoid disturbing you and other literary critics here more than necessary?

Be careful, I suspect there are also some literary critics here who are disturbed by your hyperbolic reference to something being repeated "10 times" or "9 times" per post when it is only referenced 1-4 times in a report involving two girls in two different bars. Or perhaps they would be math critics.

[CockaSaurus]

I'm not sure what value these reports provide since by the time the vast majority of interested parties reading this arrive in Bangkok the names of the bars might have changed, the girls will have definitely changed and the conditions described will no longer be pertinent. And the few expats still living here who read and post on this forum seem for the most part not to be all that into the go-go bar scene and claim not to be the least bit interested in my style of Value For Money, Real Sex P4P anyway. But here it is.

I revisited the new bar called Whiskey & Go-Go (formerly Chili's Bar) on the 2nd level of Nana Plaza last night and some of what I found contradicts what I'd heard or read about it. Starting with the name of the place. The name of this new bar as it appears right on their entrance door is as I wrote it above and not Whiskey A Go-Go as I have seen it written elsewhere on the internet and even as it is written in some of the bar's own pop up ads. LOL. I'd read there is no mamasan and that the girls manage themselves. Not as of last night. What I said about things being very different by the time most readers here arrive in Bangkok might already apply to this bar within its first 2-3 weeks of being open. There is a mamasan. Her name is Mo. She is younger than most mamasans around town to be sure. And kind of cute. But she says she is not available for barfine and is only the mamasan..

I'm not in Bangkok so I for one love hearing the actual on the ground reports at this current time since there are no tourists so I appreciate the reports.

Though ET I will say most people here know that you want "real sex" as I'm sure most people here prefer the fake kind but you do not need to repeat it 10 times per post unless you get some sort of kick back per mention or something than I digress. Also that you can get this "real sex" for like 54.8% cheaper with your FLers or whatever, we get it. You also don't have to repeat it 9 times per post.

I still thank you for the actual reports though so I guess I will take the good with the bad but I want to share something that I was taught when I was young. Less is more.

[EihTooms]

I'm not sure what value these reports provide since by the time the vast majority of interested parties reading this arrive in Bangkok the names of the bars might have changed, the girls will have definitely changed and the conditions described will no longer be pertinent. And the few expats still living here who read and post on this forum seem for the most part not to be all that into the go-go bar scene and claim not to be the least bit interested in my style of Value For Money, Real Sex P4P anyway. But here it is.

I revisited the new bar called Whiskey & Go-Go (formerly Chili's Bar) on the 2nd level of Nana Plaza last night and some of what I found contradicts what I'd heard or read about it. Starting with the name of the place. The name of this new bar as it appears right on their entrance door is as I wrote it above and not Whiskey A Go-Go as I have seen it written elsewhere on the internet and even as it is written in some of the bar's own pop up ads. LOL. I'd read there is no mamasan and that the girls manage themselves. Not as of last night. What I said about things being very different by the time most readers here arrive in Bangkok might already apply to this bar within its first 2-3 weeks of being open. There is a mamasan. Her name is Mo. She is younger than most mamasans around town to be sure. And kind of cute. But she says she is not available for barfine and is only the mamasan.

The girls DO wear different outfits as I'd read and do not wear the same uniform bikini. That part is true.

I'd read the word "Coyotes" used to describe the girls. I have no idea in what respect that was meant. There were not any particularly good dancers on the stage as far as I could tell, just doing the usual go-go dancer shuffle. And, according to mamasan Mo, all of the girls are barfineable at the regular rate.

Most of the girls will smile back if smiled at, which is a huge plus compared to many places these days. I can't say I was overwhelmed by the looks of the girls. However, I did not see any real chubbies, which is a plus for most of us I suppose. And most of the girls do appear to be under age 25, another plus for most go-go fans I think. In my judgement on this night at around 9PM only 2 girls out of 14 who appeared on the stage at one point or another were doable.

One of the doable ones came right over to me after her dance set on stage and, with a big smile, lobbied to let her sit with me. I obliged. She was cute, chatty, fluent in English. She was a few years older than most in this bar but still one of the only 2 doables on this night imo. After one 185 baht Lady Drink (beer and sodas were 99 baht) and plenty of physical and playful chemistry, she asked for another LD (also something I'd heard was different about this bar, no drink pressure). And this time she pointed to the table card featuring some special cocktail at 250 baht. I changed the subject by going for a DFK, which she jumped on eagerly and enthusiastically. Another plus.

But before I bought another LD at any price I wanted to get the particulars on a takeout out with her of the way. Barfine was 700 baht for ST or 1,500 baht for LT. I hate that two tier ST/LT barfine stuff. For her fee, she said 3,000 for ST or 5,000 for LT. She agreed to Real Sex with me and was fine with either ST or LT, up to me. I told her I like LT but 5,000 is too much. 3,000 for LT with her would be ok though if the barfine was only 700 baht. Nope. She would not budge on either her ST or LT rate. And not that she could change the barfine rate, but I don't see why anyone would pay an upcharge 1,500 baht barfine for LT at, say, Midnight if the bar closes at 1AM or 2AM. I would have returned then if that was the deal. I am sure they would work something out. I'm getting FL girls as good looking as her but younger for around 2,000+taxi for LT here quite regularly and it starts at dinner time. So it is going to take a lot for me spend upwards of 6,500 baht to take a girl LT starting at 10PM.

Therefore, I thanked her for her time, told her I enjoyed meeting her, paid my bill and started to walk out. She stood and would not let go of my hand, walked with me all the way to the exit. There was still no counter offer from her on the walk out. At the door she put her arms around my neck and whispered something in my ear I could not fully understand because her small voice was still being drowned out by the loud music. But I am 99% sure it was something about meeting her after hours and saving on the barfine. Which meant one of those godawful 3:00-4:00AM maybe she shows up, maybe she doesn't show up deals I am no longer interested in enduring. I passed on it.

I might return sometime soon and offer her 2,500 baht for LT, take it or leave it, and see how it goes.

After extricating myself from her embrace and bidding her farewell with a vague promise to return soon, maybe later tonight, I walked down the steps and went into the first bar at the bottom of the steps, Lollipop Go-Go Bar. 15 minutes and 1 LD later I was walking out with a younger and better looking girl than the one at Whiskey & GoGo, Real Sex agreed to, 700 baht barfine, 2,000 baht to her for ST with an option to stay LT. After a blissfully satisfying hour or so of Real Sex, we both showered, I put 2,000 on the table and told her she was welcome to say all night or go back to her bar with that money, up to her. It was only about 11PM. She stayed overnight and left about 10AM this morning. We watched a movie on Netflix and fell sound asleep. Sweet girl. I will repeat.