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  1. #49297
    Quote Originally Posted by Lebyteme  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker here. Too all you valued posters who have a hard time believing others posters claim about bbfs, age and physical appearance matters.

    Also if you could not go out and pick up attractive women in your home country then most likely the women in sea are not swooning over you also.

    If you can not go to a club and not embarrass yourself on the dance floor then what do you think some 18-25 yr old would see in you? Besides your wallet of course.

    Long story short. Some guys have no problems getting the extras because the girls would actually fuck them for free. Not taking shots at anyone, just trying to point out the obvious!
    Well said. Yes, age and appearance matter.

    Even so, sometimes Thai women will actually prefer the older well dressed gentleman rather than a Justin Bieber or Brad Pitt lookalike.

    Some Thai women are looking for a wealthy sugar daddy or husband to "take care" of her, her family, all her relatives, kin & the entire village.

    In return she will "take care" of her farang very well, I'm sure.

    Some other factors may also come into play to attract Thai ladies, besides mere cash and being a high or low roller.

    For example, how one smells. Is your scent of Chanel number 5. Or dog shit.

    For another example, are you a polite or interesting talker. Do you speak Thai. Do you show interest in your "date". Are you considerate. Do you have "game".

    For yet another example, race may also be an important factor with some Thai females, whether in or out of the "pay for play" market.

  2. #49296
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    IMHO I'd add at least one other, 3rd, group.

    Those with average or high esteem who pay above market rates because:

    (A) they can and or have the disposable burnable income or assets to do so and or.

    (B) they hope this will get them better service and or.

    (C) hook the lady as wanting to be a regular if her service and or attitude is up to his standards.

  3. #49295
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem. / Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.
    You seem to conveniently leave out that the 1st group sometimes sacrifices quality or convenience. Not always, but sometimes. ME, I prefer lookers over plain girls and I am willing to pay the market rate for them whatever that is depending on when and where I find them. Keep in mind that poon is a depreciating asset just like hotel rooms and empty plane seats. That why guys who are willing to wait until 4 am can usually score a better deal than guys that want that girl at 9 pm.

    As I indicated above, I pay the going rate for what I like when I want it. But that does not mean I always pay top Thai dollar IE 2000 to 2500 baht (oily), 2500 to 3000 baht (Go Go), 4000 baht & more (high end nightclubs), to sometimes well over 4000 baht in a Soapy. At the same time, or rather at different times, you can find me cruising Soi 6 or Soi Full Love Inn in Pat in the afternoon or Soi 4 and Sukhumvit looking for a sexy SW's from 1 am to 4 am. I dig variety. It mixes things up and makes it more interesting. But make no mistake, the sexy, scrawny, little girl I had fun with last time I went to 007 Bar (Soi Full Love Inn) and had for 1000 baht was no comparison in looks to the 6000 baht Maria Hotel & Spa soapy massage sideline girl that I 69'd and enjoyed licking her "A" hole.

    So, I guess this puts me in a 3rd group of punters who know the score and are willing to pay going rates to have their cake and eat it too when and where they want it. I will add that I don't care what other punters are doing or paying. My focus is 100% on the girls and having a good time. Other punters don't really exist in my world. 555.

  4. #49294

    Touche'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebyteme  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker here. Too all you valued posters who have a hard time believing others posters claim about bbfs, age and physical appearance matters.

    Also if you could not go out and pick up attractive women in your home country then most likely the women in sea are not swooning over you also.

    If you can not go to a club and not embarrass yourself on the dance floor then what do you think some 18-25 yr old would see in you? Besides your wallet of course.

    Long story short. Some guys have no problems getting the extras because the girls would actually fuck them for free. Not taking shots at anyone, just trying to point out the obvious!
    You could say there are 2 types of mongers.

    High self-esteem.

    Low self-esteem.

    The 1st group will always seek out value for money via great service great prices.

    The 2nd group has low self-esteem so this destroys the market over time, sometimes faster in some places depending on their numbers.

    They chase the 8's 9's and 10's and will accept any service at any price, because they have low self-esteem, and then they will declare victory over all of us LMAO.

  5. #49293
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Oh no, not even close.

    The crown for king or best on ISG would have to go to the long term, highly respected posters here who report getting bareback as the norm without discussion or objection from any girl they've spied, liked and taken, including the top best lookers from the top go-go bars, any night of the week, whenever they want and have never in many years paid one more than 1,000 - 1,100 baht for Long Time and whose claims are then confirmed by eye witness testimony from other long term, well respected posters here............
    That's why I said from all reports.

  6. #49292
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Sorry guys, hate to bust up this mutual admiration thing you got going between yourselves but I'm the no 1 monger as proven by a recent poll of some 1500 working girls in Lower Sukhumvit (soi to soi 39). I came out on top (pardon the pun) in all categories, looks, personality, performance, , generosity, want to see again, and where to get the best noodles. Unfortunately but understandably for national security reasons the poll cannot be made public. Incidentally ET you came 4th some problem I believe with requiring specialized services and the Marquis didn't make the top ten.
    No, Franciscass, you forgot this election is decided by the Electoral College on a bar by bar basis. The popular vote is interesting. You can tell your grandkids about it. But that isn't how you win the crown around here.

    😉

  7. #49291
    Quote Originally Posted by DazeUp  [View Original Post]
    Thanks BB, but what I can't rap my head around is why someone would keep doing that. I can only reach the conclusion that not so innocent objectives may be behind it. I'm glad other punters can see through it though it is a little over the top.
    To me, it is the substance of what someone posts, the topic, the observations, conclusions, debatable points and so on that matters and what it is about those things that inspires me to respond or not.

    I really couldn't care less if all ten of my previous replies were to the same member hiding behind different identities and ISG accounts and that old lady has not left her Des Moines, Iowa basement since 1965 if what she posted is worth considering and responding to based on my experiences and observations as well.

    For example, I assume we are all talking about a particular member who claims to get bareback from every Thai P4P girl he approaches by either lying to her about his intense feelings of love for her, hinting he will take care of her and her family for a long time, dangling a sizable tip in front of her and so on. No doubt his style of posting seems for all the world to be comically fake, a made up persona to keep us from figuring out who he or she really is on the board.

    But the thing is the methods of manipulation he delights in describing and reporting ARE KNOWN to work on a huge percentage of P4P girls who might not otherwise agree so readily to bareback. At least, according to what I have heard from dozens of punters who apply those methods.

    Therefore, what that member posts is valid and worth responding to imo even if he is actually a 90 year old lady who has never been here but who now believes in her heart that you really do pronounce the name of the country "Thigh-land."

  8. #49290
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I thought I was the best monger in BKK but that title goes to ET but he lives there and spends his thb more freely than this monger.
    Sorry guys, hate to bust up this mutual admiration thing you got going between yourselves but I'm the no 1 monger as proven by a recent poll of some 1500 working girls in Lower Sukhumvit (soi to soi 39). I came out on top (pardon the pun) in all categories, looks, personality, performance, , generosity, want to see again, and where to get the best noodles. Unfortunately but understandably for national security reasons the poll cannot be made public. Incidentally ET you came 4th some problem I believe with requiring specialized services and the Marquis didn't make the top ten.

  9. #49289
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully you have caught on that the guy who keeps saying he gets BBFS from 90% of the girls in Thailand and SE Asia is trolling.
    Thanks BB, but what I can't rap my head around is why someone would keep doing that. I can only reach the conclusion that not so innocent objectives may be behind it. I'm glad other punters can see through it though it is a little over the top.

  10. #49288
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Nevertheless ET from all reports you are the bare back king of ISG.
    Oh no, not even close.

    The crown for king or best on ISG would have to go to the long term, highly respected posters here who report getting bareback as the norm without discussion or objection from any girl they've spied, liked and taken, including the top best lookers from the top go-go bars, any night of the week, whenever they want and have never in many years paid one more than 1,000 - 1,100 baht for Long Time and whose claims are then confirmed by eye witness testimony from other long term, well respected posters here.

    That wouldn't be me by a mile.

    I do ok for an old farang.

  11. #49287

    Age & health Matters

    Long time lurker here. Too all you valued posters who have a hard time believing others posters claim about bbfs, age and physical appearance matters.

    Also if you could not go out and pick up attractive women in your home country then most likely the women in sea are not swooning over you also.

    If you can not go to a club and not embarrass yourself on the dance floor then what do you think some 18-25 yr old would see in you? Besides your wallet of course.

    Long story short. Some guys have no problems getting the extras because the girls would actually fuck them for free. Not taking shots at anyone, just trying to point out the obvious!

  12. #49286

    You left out something LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    That might be, but anyone claiming a 90-100% success rate of getting BBFS+CIP with Thai P4P girls by merely applying the most popularly discussed methods of manipulation or simply ignoring the girl's refusal at crunch time with "NO" or "Condom" mirrors exactly the rate of success I hear about from several other fellow ISG members I have met and dozens of visitors to Thailand who have never heard of ISG. Or, at least, we never mentioned it.

    Practically every fellow punter I have met talks about being on a constant hunt for and will do whatever it takes to get BBFS+CIP from the girls they barfine, meet in the shops, pick up in the clubs or off the street. In most cases, I know they session with a different girl or two virtually every day they are here. On the rare occasions they DIDN'T get BBFS+CIP with the girl they were with previously, I hear about it with their griping and complaining. LOL.

    Essentially, they all apply some method of manipulation mentioned here by the experts; "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" tying up their time most of the night so they wouldn't dare deliver ANYTHING that might displease the guy and cause her to be put out with little or no money, get her falling down drunk, hang outside the bars at closing time when they might be falling down drunk already and have very little options for making money except the helpful punter with his own mode of transportation, tell them you're a modeling agent looking for new star material (LOL), dangle a big tip over their head, profess real love and an intention to see her many times to help her and her family, react with hostility to the slightest thing leading right up to the room and on the bed causing the girl to be terrified to cross him on anything, you name it..
    I never agree to full price, it has to be less than everyone else pays or I won't take her LOL.

    I want more than everyone else gets, FOR less thb LOL.

    I thought I was the best monger in BKK but that title goes to ET but he lives there and spends his thb more freely than this monger.

    When I get a girl my objective is to see how close to free I can get here, not how much I can empty my wallet for a nut like I hear so many doing in Pattaya.

  13. #49285

    I keep my word

    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPearl  [View Original Post]
    It is true, believe me, that many TGs will have BBFS with farangs. Personally I'd recommend getting the lady HIV tested first and yourself as well, especially if she is going to be a regular. Besides testing you can also protect yourself with circumcision & protect the lady by being an excellent practitioner of coitus interruptus. Using pure coconut oil as a lube & barrier wouldn't hurt either. Both testing & a promise not to cum within her will help assure the lady. Just be sure to keep your word.
    Cum inside is my SOP, pussy mouth or anus almost 40 yrs of sex never ever once coitus interrupts free or p4p, if that was standard, I would be addicted to porn instead of the real thing.

  14. #49284
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    That might be, but anyone claiming a 90-100% success rate of getting BBFS+CIP with Thai P4P girls by merely applying the most popularly discussed methods of manipulation or simply ignoring the girl's refusal at crunch time with "NO" or "Condom" mirrors exactly the rate of success I hear about from several other fellow ISG members I have met and dozens of visitors to Thailand who have never heard of ISG. Or, at least, we never mentioned it..............
    Nevertheless ET from all reports you are the bare back king of ISG.

  15. #49283
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Practically every fellow punter I have met talks about being on a constant hunt for and will do whatever it takes to get BBFS+CIP.
    ET You and your friends must hail from a part of the planet I'm not familiar with. Over the twenty odd years I've been here I've entertained many visitors both young and old and all but a handful were happy to wear a condom. Sure some if given the opportunity went bareback but more were not interested having the usual health concerns. I also have a number of friends here and none insist on BBFS or CIM. As I said perhaps we are on different orbits with different realities. Would be interesting to see what the research if it exists shows.

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