Bangkok Reports

[LittleBigMan]

That's the most frustrating part, when does it get back to normal and what will that normal look like.

China and South Korea are the best exemplars of countries who are over their peaks but I keep hear more and more chatter about a so called second wave.

Personally I feel it will be at least mid-May earliest here before restrictions are lifted and then it will no more than a gradual easing.

I have to say this self-isolation is beginning to drag. While nowhere close to the reality I get a semblance of what doing time must feel like.

I keep in contact with my nephew who works in the Health Department. When it comes to China and South Korea, they seem to have containment but without a vaccine or a real solution how to treat the virus at this time although a number of alternatives if they open things back up business, as usual, you might be back to square one? The reference has come up "second wave" the experts believe as warmer weather ahead like Flu the number start to drop but like Flu each year it comes back the hope by then there is a vaccine?

As for jail or doing time, have you done any well I have I can tell you "self-isolation" is nothing compared to doing time " self " means you aren't being forced if you cut gas you can open the window, doing time if Bubba your roommate does you got to suffer it out there is no window or anywhere to run to?

[Franciscass]

And one has to wonder what the lasting effects will be. Will there be new regulations for venues? Will they use this outbreak as an excuse to crack down for good on P4 P? It remains to be seen. It certainly has changed my behavior. I've avoided the oilies for a few weeks even before things ramped up in Thailand as I knew many of the customers were Korean, Hong Kongers, etc. Also was not to keen on ST hotels then either. And as one with a sig other at home; my place is off. Been a long time without for me so far. Think it will be longer.

That's the most frustrating part, when does it get back to normal and what will that normal look like.

China and South Korea are the best exemplars of countries who are over their peaks but I keep hear more and more chatter about a so called second wave.

Personally I feel it will be at least mid-May earliest here before restrictions are lifted and then it will no more than a gradual easing.

I have to say this self-isolation is beginning to drag. While nowhere close to the reality I get a semblance of what doing time must feel like.

[Goatscrot]

Probably the same for many of us. I live in USA and over the last 2 weeks I've heard from 8 Thai girls, two of them date back to 2017. I chatted with the first 4, ignored the last 4. The first 4 wanted to see me, but 3 backed off when I told them I was away from Thailand (they all should have known). Only 1 asked directly for money.

Its a new world for everybody. The Thai P4 P and tourism industry is hurting as bad as any industry in the world.

And one has to wonder what the lasting effects will be. Will there be new regulations for venues? Will they use this outbreak as an excuse to crack down for good on P4 P? It remains to be seen. It certainly has changed my behavior. I've avoided the oilies for a few weeks even before things ramped up in Thailand as I knew many of the customers were Korean, Hong Kongers, etc. Also was not to keen on ST hotels then either. And as one with a sig other at home; my place is off. Been a long time without for me so far. Think it will be longer.

[EihTooms]

Yup I imagine this is the holy grail for you ET and as you say while in my opinion your needs are not best practice and to be clear more so for you rather than the girls (you having regular testing, vasectomy etc posing little risk to the girls) you're living the dream.

I am sticking to the girls I know who are still in Bangkok. Some changes though no kissing and limiting close up face time to a minimum. Makes for some odd shagging routines and sometimes it has us both laughing our heads off.

Like you while obviously not altogether altruistic it's nice to feel I am helping out and I usually throw in a little more than usual. On top I have been helping a few regulars who have gone home and while it's not a lot their genuine appreciation is indeed heartwarming even if the tight fisted peel an orange in their pocket skeptics believe I am being taking for a idiot.

Stay safe and healthy.

I can't say this situation has increased the number or percentage of new girls agreeing upfront to BBFS+CIP or a full and complete BJ for me. Not a Holy Grail event for me at all. I have only added a couple of new must see girls to my contact list who have done so, one minus the Swallow. Not a big issue or total deal killer by any means. I'll probably get around to her eventually. She just didn't make it to the Highest Priority list, that's all.

That kind of addition to the stable is no more than it normally was for me pre Covid-19. I am really focusing on the best girls for me who were already being repeated as favorites over the past few months. One goes back a couple of years of fairly regular repeats.

And then there are my 2-3 regular, non P4P girlfriends who, not the least surprising, are still refusing my money offers even though their regular jobs in shops, restaurants, malls and on photo shoots have been seriously negatively effected as well.

I get a sprinkling of messages from nearly forgotten girls in their outlying provinces now, good girls for me but who I haven't sessioned with for more than a year, who ask for "200 baht for food for my kids." Not mine. Lol. I'll transfer a bit more than that even though it is very likely I am one of 10-15 previous customers they contact for this every other day or whatever. No matter. There is a lasting heart-felt effect for getting relatively hassle-fee True GFE/Real Sex with these ladies that ought not go unappreciated even after the direct transaction was completed. Maybe I will taper off on that response over the next couple of weeks.

[HorseTrader]

I have gotten dozens of out of the blue Line messages from previous P4P and non P4P contacts lately.

Probably the same for many of us. I live in USA and over the last 2 weeks I've heard from 8 Thai girls, two of them date back to 2017. I chatted with the first 4, ignored the last 4. The first 4 wanted to see me, but 3 backed off when I told them I was away from Thailand (they all should have known). Only 1 asked directly for money.

Its a new world for everybody. The Thai P4 P and tourism industry is hurting as bad as any industry in the world.

[Franciscass]

I guess what is happening in my circle now is pretty much an example of "what the market bill bear" and, in a related way, "building better customer relations to survive during difficult times." Although I suspect you might strongly disagree with that latter way of putting it, Franciscass. And I understand your feelings about it. But this is what is happening right now, try as I might to overcome my baser instincts on the matter:

I have gotten dozens of out of the blue Line messages from previous P4P and non P4P contacts lately. Seriously, I have more pussy and mouths being thrown at me now than at any time over the past several years. And several new ones as well, regular girls off the dating sites whose mall shops and restaurants have been shuttered. Girls who have never freelanced or step foot on lower Sukhumvit from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy.

Well, it turns out I can help 4-5 different girls per week earn enough money for them to cover their rent, electric, phone, public transportation and food in a month.

Guess which girls get the highest priority for this great good luck of an ongoing monthly survival income during these difficult times. Yep. The ones who kept their pussy shaved and delivered BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow to me. And it's the same requirement with any new ladies who wants a spot in the dugout and a chance at bat now or down the road..

Yup I imagine this is the holy grail for you ET and as you say while in my opinion your needs are not best practice and to be clear more so for you rather than the girls (you having regular testing, vasectomy etc posing little risk to the girls) you're living the dream.

I am sticking to the girls I know who are still in Bangkok. Some changes though no kissing and limiting close up face time to a minimum. Makes for some odd shagging routines and sometimes it has us both laughing our heads off.

Like you while obviously not altogether altruistic it's nice to feel I am helping out and I usually throw in a little more than usual. On top I have been helping a few regulars who have gone home and while it's not a lot their genuine appreciation is indeed heartwarming even if the tight fisted peel an orange in their pocket skeptics believe I am being taking for a idiot.

Stay safe and healthy.

[EihTooms]

That's pretty much my price guideline also ET but some of our esteemed fellow co members feel this is way too much. They feel the girls, (hookers, WG) who take care of our needs are such worthless lazy illiterates that even the minimum wage of 300 baht a day is too much for their time. I also understand your consideration that service levels and delivery of what has been agreed should be a factor in what is paid. While we may not see eye to eye ET in what you need from the girls as best practice I agree with how you handle these situations. As always stay safe.

I guess what is happening in my circle now is pretty much an example of "what the market bill bear" and, in a related way, "building better customer relations to survive during difficult times." Although I suspect you might strongly disagree with that latter way of putting it, Franciscass. And I understand your feelings about it. But this is what is happening right now, try as I might to overcome my baser instincts on the matter:

I have gotten dozens of out of the blue Line messages from previous P4P and non P4P contacts lately. Seriously, I have more pussy and mouths being thrown at me now than at any time over the past several years. And several new ones as well, regular girls off the dating sites whose mall shops and restaurants have been shuttered. Girls who have never freelanced or step foot on lower Sukhumvit from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy.

Well, it turns out I can help 4-5 different girls per week earn enough money for them to cover their rent, electric, phone, public transportation and food in a month.

Guess which girls get the highest priority for this great good luck of an ongoing monthly survival income during these difficult times. Yep. The ones who kept their pussy shaved and delivered BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow to me. And it's the same requirement with any new ladies who wants a spot in the dugout and a chance at bat now or down the road.

The ones who gave me shit about any of that? Sorry, I've got no time for them. And no money for them. I suppose they can go to the airport and wait for the next incoming flight full of compliant potential customers who don't care about those kinds of things to arrive. It has turned out at least for now that decision on their part in the past has come back to bite them hard. According to their reaction to my declining the offer to see them now, that is.

Yes, I understand many will think this is a tough, unsympathetic approach to deciding which ones I will help with my time and my (also not exactly thriving all that great) money these days. But I really can't think of a way for me to contribute to the general economic welfare in this regard that will keep me contributing for a very long and with a proper attitude about it.

[Chacal60]

Got kicked off the beach while eating my take away last night!

https://thet haiger.com/coronavirus/...thai-in-phuket

Wow, that's more than inconvenient. I will write to her and ask again. The new domestic travel restrictions might prevent me from going anyway.

[Allover]

Got kicked off the beach while eating my take away last night!

https://thet haiger.com/coronavirus/...thai-in-phuket

Rio, the link doesn't work.

[RioHeart]

A cute young friend I met on TF a few years ago told me her rather high end hotel is open, as are the beaches. But she's not a P4 P gal, amd considers me just a client for the hotel not for her. Perhaps if she hadn't met my wife already.

I'm reluctant to even fly domestically now because of the chance that the state of emergency shuts down flights.

Got kicked off the beach while eating my take away last night!

https://thet haiger.com/coronavirus/...thai-in-phuket

[Chacal60]

A cute young friend I met on TF a few years ago told me her rather high end hotel is open, as are the beaches. But she's not a P4 P gal, amd considers me just a client for the hotel not for her. Perhaps if she hadn't met my wife already.

I'm reluctant to even fly domestically now because of the chance that the state of emergency shuts down flights.

Over 1000 massage shops in Patong, 5 to 10 girls per shop, gone over night. Everything closed. You can find an FL and a sex massage if you look and ask. They take you to their room or yours.

Stay home don't come to Phuket.

RL.

[Steve 9696]

A bit off subject but still cool. I lived in BK during the Vietnam War. Lowly airman but did have cheap apartment that I shared with a buddy. There was a coffee shop (not very far from the Ewarwan Hotel (probably spelled wrong) where the TV personalities and models and upper class went after normal work hours. We didn't go there but very seldom, too expensive, but the scenery was fantastic! One night with a buddy, he saw this 10+++ girl and started talking to her. He was trying to take her home but she was joking with him and told him that he couldn't afford her! And he sure didn't have a months salary to give her. Finally he told her that he would give her everything he had and proceeded to empty his wallet and empty his pockets and put it all on the table in front of her. It wasn't anywhere close to want she was asking, but she grabbed his hand and led the poor guy away. He had stars in his eyes for days!

Anyway, if you have enough game you might get some real bargains and some great surprises!

I don't know about others, but with all the doom and gloom and lack of anything happening IRL, I personally welcome old war stories about girls of the past or recent conquests. Beats the fuck out of silence and corona virus updates! 😋.

[MrClen]

I never monger the Thermae anymore. I know I am not going to get anything below 2000 there. The girls have been over priced there for 15 yrs at least. I offer the price of the shop I am shopping in. My 1000 offer goes to the Nana sign and the odd Soi side of suk street girls and I get at least a 75% turn down rate. BUT its ok I am not bothered by a rejection. Eventually I find a doable girl that will take the offer. I only offer to girls that fit my looks preference also. I see some oldies and uglies out there that I am sure would take my 1000 offer, BUT I don't stop for them. When you are talking Force I am saying I personally am not forcing a girl to take my offer. IF she is forced by another (her Pimp) to take only a set amount that's not on me. She simply turns me down and I move on pretty easy.

A bit off subject but still cool. I lived in BK during the Vietnam War. Lowly airman but did have cheap apartment that I shared with a buddy. There was a coffee shop (not very far from the Ewarwan Hotel (probably spelled wrong) where the TV personalities and models and upper class went after normal work hours. We didn't go there but very seldom, too expensive, but the scenery was fantastic! One night with a buddy, he saw this 10+++ girl and started talking to her. He was trying to take her home but she was joking with him and told him that he couldn't afford her! And he sure didn't have a months salary to give her. Finally he told her that he would give her everything he had and proceeded to empty his wallet and empty his pockets and put it all on the table in front of her. It wasn't anywhere close to want she was asking, but she grabbed his hand and led the poor guy away. He had stars in his eyes for days!

Anyway, if you have enough game you might get some real bargains and some great surprises!

[Robert Long]

1) Girls are leaving town in their thousands.

2) Soi 7/1 best place to find some action and a beer.

3) Most dangerous place on the planet is an immigration office.

Over 1000 massage shops in Patong, 5 to 10 girls per shop, gone over night. Everything closed. You can find an FL and a sex massage if you look and ask. They take you to their room or yours.

Stay home don't come to Phuket.

RL.

[Mr Enternational]

Please don't use the ridiculous argument about minimum wage.

Why else do so many attractive girls around the world suck dick? Most will tell you "EAZY money" they are lazy and it is easy, I won't dare call it work.

Many guys choose to ignore that truth. Talking to a chick I know here in Pattaya yesterday. She said she was tired of doing freelance. I suggested she do something else then. She said like what. I said any other normal job that people do.

She said no that is okay. I like doing this. She didn't say anything about how poor she was, anything about any circumstances she was in, anything about other jobs don't pay enough. She basically said I am not going to stop doing this easy ass shit.

I knew one chick working at the gogo and she told me she was doing it for the fast money. She said she already bought land back home and she was saving up to put a house on the land. She said as soon as she got that money she was going to move back home and start a business and chill. She finally did it and has not been back to Pattaya. I have met several chicks that have done the exact same thing. Again, nothing about circumstances.

Being here over the years I have seen chicks go from normal jobs to being hookers, and from hookers to doing normal jobs, and doing both at the same time. But I never see the girls making the excuses for themselves that some mongers make for them.