Bangkok Reports

[Turgid]

Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.

In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.

I remember mongering in the 1970's and 80's before the AIDS pandemic, sex without a condom was unheard of, everything was on the table and the girls had zero inhibition. AIDS changed all that forever. Adjusting to condom use was hard and banging a hooker was accompanied with a lot of anxiety. If non-mongers knew you were shagging prostitutes they would think you were crazy. In fact the image of mongers sunk to its lowest level. Fast forward to 2020 with a pandemic that is much worse than AIDS at its peak. To think that it will not significantly affect our hobby is serious denial. Recent figures coming out of the US have been swift slaps to my face and I am making mental adjustments to avoid anguish.

[HorseTrader]

Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.

In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.

Careful and reconsider looking on the black side of things. It may be glum just now and your missing the pussy. But thing is once this has passed and it will, it will be back to the way it was.

Thailand has a heavy resilience on the sex industry. It draws people in. Take away that sex tourisim then you will lose a lot of the trade that comes. That won't happen. Those conservative politicians know where the money comes from to float the economy and its not going to jepordise that. Once covid is out the way the place will be teaming again.

Those are two widely different projections for the distant future. Perhaps Crocodilexp is right, but I sure hope he is wrong. Both my big and little head is predicting that Hornyscot is right.

I see two powerful forces that will push for revival of the sex industry. First, the owners of hospitality industry businesses will push very hard for P4P industry (restaurants, bars, hotels, taxi, tours). Pattaya would almost disappear without the P4P money. Patong is more family friendly, but there is still a huge number of people that come for the P4P. Even the more relaxed resort areas, such as Koh Samui, gain much business from tourists who come for P4P. Second, the many farm communities of Issan derive a good chunk of income from their daughters who send money home each month from P4P proceeds. To make it all tie together, many Thai people see nothing wrong with the P4P industry as long as it is done to support family.

Thailand is a poor nation and without P4P it will be much worse. Many Thai people are not well educated and their skills are limited. Industries such as automotive, electronics, and farming will not be able to pick up the slack. Thailand's only choice will be to continue support of the P4P industry or become poorer and poorer.

[Hornyscot]

Careful and reconsider looking on the black side of things. It may be glum just now and your missing the pussy. But thing is once this has passed and it will, it will be back to the way it was.

Thailand has a heavy resilience on the sex industry. It draws people in. Take away that sex tourisim then you will lose a lot of the trade that comes. That won't happen. Those conservative politicians know where the money comes from to float the economy and its not going to jepordise that. Once covid is out the way the place will be teaming again.

[Achmmc]

Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.

In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.

There was never a moment when in the LOS that I failed to appreciate how wildly great the opportunities were, as if too good to be true. Would it last? Could it last? What if it changed, drastically? I hope for the best but accept that may never be the same. Beyond the financial brutal financial impact, the social impact and p2 p are difficult to envision.

[Gargano19]

Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.

Haha it actually reminded me of an experience I had last year in warsaw. Yes, it was horrible LOL.

[Crocodilexp]

P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.

Indeed, the outlook is depressing. While physical danger will end when a Covid vaccine is developed and widely deployed (1-2 years away if we're lucky), the effect of changing laws and attitudes will stay for a long time.

In Thailand, this also presents the perfect opportunity for the authorities to completely kill off the visible prostitution industry. There's a conservative block that's been trying suppress it since the early 2000's, with some success.

[Goatscrot]

Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.

Methinks you are right. I'll never pay for that.

[Turgid]

The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin.............

Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.

[Franciscass]

Might as well save the money and wank. Man, this is just awful.

Reminds me of the scene from Naked Gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_BPDi8Ems

[Sam Sanuk]

How is what I posted about the aerosol version of transmission so different than what Fauci said about it in that video?

Your version seemed a bit apocalyptic compared to the doctor's. A lot of variables involved and I'm sure many which are not fully explored and vetted. The good doctor must rely on his knowledge / experience associated with similar viruses, since COVID 19 is a new one. Accordingly, some of his information must rest solely on that, while some may be pure speculation. I have noted that, when delivering his briefings, he does "footnote" some of his statements on occasion. But, to get back to your question a tab more directly, your inclusion of a "particle" being on a piece of furniture and then ending up in one's respiratory system seems (to me) to be nearly impossible. Maybe I read it incorrectly. If so, please disregard.

Thanks again for the link. I like the doctor's briefings; I find him "authentic" and "authoritative".

SS.

[Goatscrot]

The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.

In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.

And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.

I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.

Might as well save the money and wank. Man, this is just awful.

[EihTooms]

Probably, mostly but interestingly, Dutch scientists have found, ". SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is often excreted in an infected person's stool. ". Not likely to be a primary means of infection, but detectable:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-in-dutch-city

Ah, that would definitely mean the end of Rim Jobs.

[John Clayton]

...In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant...

Probably, mostly but interestingly, Dutch scientists have found, ". SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is often excreted in an infected person's stool. ". Not likely to be a primary means of infection, but detectable:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-in-dutch-city

My point is, we don't know yet how the virus is shed or how people are infected. Cum could be part of it...
The important thing about infectivity that most epidemiologists ignore is viral load. A small exposure you can maybe fight off. but spending hours fucking, kissing, sweating, eating an infected person...!

[EihTooms]

P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.

The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.

In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.

And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.

I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.

[Goatscrot]

It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.

P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.