Bangkok Reports

[Bunky]

I'm a rookie on the international scene and this was my first international hunting trip. I made some mistakes and maybe overpaid in instances but it was a fun time. Keep in mind, I'm a rookie and was definitely overwhelmed at times.

Enjoyed reading your report and I admire how honest you were about your experiences as a first-time visitor. I'm sure other guys will weigh in here, but just off the top of my head here are a few things to work on.

Spending Hours and Hours in Your Hotel Room Looking at Girls Online. I realize there's an argument to be made that our hobby will become increasingly digital. But as you learned, this is a total time vacuum. Moreover, the appearance of online girls is hit-or-miss.

Ignoring Good Intelligence You Picked Up Here. Your original plan to visit Tulip or a similar place was smart. These are well known because they offer reliable service and value for money.

Falling Under the Spell of a Tout. You realize that you paid this joker twice, right? Once directly to him in his hand. Plus he got a kickback from the place he took you to. Write this on the back of your hand: Ninety-nine-point-nine percent of people who approach you on the street are running a scam.

Failing to Cut Your Losses. Once you arrived at the parlor and saw the lineup, you should have bolted. Throw 100 baht to the tout if you must. But never double down on your mistake by going through with a session you know will be lousy. As it turned out, you let the tout choose and ended up with a fat girl who insisted on a condomized blow job.

Not Being Able to Say No. You bought the fat girl an overpriced drink and gave her a tip after a crummy session. Tipped a go-go mamasan for doing nothing? WTF? The girls are always asking for drinks, tips, gifts, food etc. Learn to say no. No need to be nasty. Just smile and shake your head while saying something noncommittal like "maybe later. " Thai people know what that means.

Posting a Report With Only a Few Paragraphs. Good content, but almost impossible to read. Take a few extra seconds and chop it up into shorter paragraphs.

[EihTooms]

HM, I think I know that one, took her twice. Larger than average naturals for a thai girl? Uses a picture on line in a car with man you seatbelt cover? Sounds like right location in thermae.

She was alright for me, for the life of me I can't recall the BJ, but I do know I certainly DATY her. 2nd time she was definitely in need of business and thought performance would be better, but no, so gave up after 2.

I don't really remember her name exactly. But it could have been "Pa" or some other single syllable name like that. I only heard her say it once in the bar and there was certainly no reason for me to ask her to repeat it later since by then I had no interest in getting her Line info for any reason. So I also never saw her Line photo.

I would say the overall experience and ultimate result for me with her was similar to what I have experienced with every other (4-5) notably better looking than average Thermae girl I have taken. Nothing surprising about it and, therefore, it could have been one of any number of girls there that night.

In fact, on the issue of my never even fucking much less finishing, the result for me was essentially the same as it has been with almost every other Thai girl I would judge most punters would rate an 8 or better. Her session-halting resistance to engaging in BBFS, which I have no problem respecting and honoring, being the reason. Which is why I don't really bother with that type of girl in Thermae or elsewhere unless it is seemingly falling in my lap as was the case here.

If she had been a 7.9 instead of an 8+, the end result would almost certainly have been 100% better for me. LOL. It's true though.

I had already vowed to never again take a Thermae girl of any level of attractivemess without first negotiating the 2-3 very important details I need in order to make a P4P session worth any amount of money at all. I made an exception with this one because I was also interested in seeing if the extremely low customer traffic of late might improve a "go with the flow" approach for me vs my preference of negotiating a clearly understood upfront agreement. It obviously didn't.

[Member #4698]

I already uploaded this link in the general thread, but it's funny. Very apropo. I think everyone will have a laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LawuQG8Z81w

[MichaelSamuel]

HM, I think I know that one, took her twice. Larger than average naturals for a thai girl? Uses a picture on line in a car with man you seatbelt cover? Sounds like right location in thermae.

She was alright for me, for the life of me I can't recall the BJ, but I do know I certainly DATY her. 2nd time she was definitely in need of business and thought performance would be better, but no, so gave up after 2.

Yep. Sounds like her name.

One other detail that got lost as I wrote the report was when I told her there was taxi fare in the 2,000 baht I gave her I also said I am sure the taxi driver will have change and, besides, if we boom boom the only way I can I would happily give you 3,000 baht if you need more money. She chuckled at that, too, and then made an icky face as though the idea of having my uncovered dick in her was the most revolting thing she ever heard. LOL.

There was no counter offer request of 5,000 baht, 10,000 baht or more. So I won't be holding my breath for her to change her mind the next time around.

[Whoreman]

But if any of you are thinking those top 5% best lookers at Thermae are so needy during this time to loosen up on their grip of condom condom condom for just about anything related to sexual pleasure for the man and shifting them into True GFE/Real Sex mode with a first time session.

Nevermind a condom, I'd want to be wearing a full protection suit before going anywhere near Thermae right now.

[EihTooms]

Wow, lucky girl, 2000 bahts and no boom boom.

Hey, she did get naked, let me see her pussy up close and personal and licked my balls for about 3 minutes!

[EihTooms]

HaHa sounds to me like maybe you met Pa. She's doesn't work Thermae often anymore but is the exact same service that I received from her.

Yep. Sounds like her name.

One other detail that got lost as I wrote the report was when I told her there was taxi fare in the 2,000 baht I gave her I also said I am sure the taxi driver will have change and, besides, if we boom boom the only way I can I would happily give you 3,000 baht if you need more money. She chuckled at that, too, and then made an icky face as though the idea of having my uncovered dick in her was the most revolting thing she ever heard. LOL.

There was no counter offer request of 5,000 baht, 10,000 baht or more. So I won't be holding my breath for her to change her mind the next time around.

[Turgid]

.............More big smiles, hugs and kisses from her at the door, she lovingly cupped my face in her hands and told me I was a very nice, good man and she was lucky to meet me tonight. Bye...........

Wow, lucky girl, 2000 bahts and no boom boom.

[Houston Player]

HaHa sounds to me like maybe you met Pa. She's doesn't work Thermae often anymore but is the exact same service that I received from her.

[EihTooms]

My impressions of how things are in the bars, with freelancers and other P4P girls during this time of extremely low customer traffic continues to be that it is every bit as easy as it has always been to get just about any girl of any high level of attractiveness to go with you for ST as long as you are willing to settle for basic, standard covered fare and pay her going rate. Maybe you can negotiate a 500 baht discount from her usual 2,500 - 3,000 baht going rate these days. That's about it, imo. Otherwise, I have experienced no difference in the way P4P girls are conducting their business here.

However, I did experience what I might consider a minor turning point for (at least one of) the hottest girls I saw in Thermae last night around 9pm. I took my usual unofficial survey pass through the place, got several more welcoming smiles from the lineup since there were markedly fewer Asian potential customer "witnesses" to it and there she was! A real beauty. Standing on the left side and near the back door. Fantastic, lovely, perfectly proportioned long legs topped off by a very short pair of cut off jeans shorts around a perfect candy apple butt, tallish, slim but curvy, light skinned, classic Asian beauty face, a real Asian punter taste bonanza or so I'm told. Mid 20's at the most.

And she was all smiles, nodding and body language gesturing me to come to her from across the room. I had to look around and check 2-3 times to make sure she was "talking" to me. LOL. I then made a direct walk from the center bar to her spot in the line up. Very fluent English, funny, charming, grasping my hand, got to the point about me please, please taking her within a minute. Not one word about how much baht for her. She just "wanted to be with me", "wanted to make me happy." My only allusion to either of the only two things that would make for a fulfilling P4P for me was, "You see I am a farang, right? You should also know I like kissing on the lips, kissing you everywhere and having sex like a real boyfriend and girlfriend, ok?"

"Oh, yes, I like that too!", she assured me with a big beautiful smile.

I did not say more and was willing to take my chances with "go with the flow" beyond that with her.

In the room, she could not have been more cute, chatty, charming, sweet, deferential and naturally feminine. I was popping a boner through my pants before I had even put my arms around her. Now, she did LOVE beer. We picked up a couple of big bottles of LEO, her choice, at 7-11 and I had a few cans of it in my fridge. She downed BOTH of those big boys and chased them down with another can! She was definitely getting looped and funnier along the way. LOL. I certainly had no problem with that.

From the beginning she was going on and on about how great it will be for us to exchange Line info and for her to come over every week to be my regular or maybe even more. Talking about children (she has none) I managed to inform her I'd had a vasectomy, why and that I would not make her pregnant. She seemed delighted about that. This was going very, very well. I even enjoyed her company.

After what seemed like 90 minutes of us sitting fully clothed at my dining table, her drinking all of the beer except for half a small glassful with ice no less that I poured for myself, talking about all kinds of fun things, our likes and dislikes in life in general, family and so on, chemistry developing as strongly as I have ever felt, it was finally time to get down to it.

She was even more beautiful naked. All real. And perfect. Maybe a bit too long pubic hair for my liking, but it was confined to a small triangle in her sweet spot. And speaking of her sweet spot, she appeared to really enjoy my DATY. She could not say enough about how amazing it was to feel so good without any "pain". Apparently, the other times men have done that to her they were too rough or did some weird thing to cause her pain. But not this time. She said she came many times during the 15 minutes or so I was busy down there and thoroughly enjoying it myself. Her vaginal contractions and increased pussy juice flowing at certain key times helped me believe her.

Ah, now it was my turn. Her gentle kissing and licking my shaved balls and up and down all sides of the shaft was glorious. As hard as I was before, now I was as rigid as a twisted blue steel spike. Ready for more!

But. No more came. I kind of gently nudged her temple to more or less direct her toward putting my dick into her mouth and that was a no go. She asked, "You have condom?" "Well, I might still have one somewhere here. But you remember we talked about why I got a vasectomy many years ago, don't you?"

"Oh, NO. Must have condom to put dick in my mouth! I cannot do that without condom! And for boom boom!"

"uh, well, sorry hon but I can't feel anything and will never stay hard or finish wearing a condom. We talked about that already just a few minutes ago."

"Oh, then I will use my hand," she said with a chuckle and as big a smile as she'd displayed from the time she pleaded with me to take her from Thermae.

"Oh, no thanks, honey. I don't want a handjob. I have a hand and I can reach myself. I don't need a lady for a handjob. I need a lady for boom boom or a blowjob," I said with just as much of a chuckle and smile as she was giving me.

Did that turn this incomparably charming, enjoyable, chemistry-laden "go with the flow" experience into something wonderful? Nope. Maybe for her, but not for me. She reacted fairly shocked and horrified by the very idea of putting an uncovered dick in her mouth, much less in her pussy. Well, my dick anyway.

So she rinsed off in the shower and got dressed, I rinsed off in the shower and got dressed and I put 2,000 baht on the table next to her purse. There was no request from either one of us to exchange our Line info. Still all smiles, she said, "You give me 2,500 ok?" "Hon, I think giving you 2,000 is already very fair and generous for what we did." "You give me taxi?", she asked with a smile. "I think you have taxi money in that 2,000 baht, hon. Maybe next time," knowing as well as she did there will never be a next time. Unless she promises me the world or I don't have to pay her anything standing in Thermae next time, of course.

More big smiles, hugs and kisses from her at the door, she lovingly cupped my face in her hands and told me I was a very nice, good man and she was lucky to meet me tonight. Bye.

Anyway, this is just a report to let any of you Thermae-curious punters of any age, race or ethnicity out there that it might actually be easier than ever before to engage with and TAKE one of those very hot top 5% looker Thermae girls these days. And their demeanor might actually be quite pleasant along the way and in the room. And, no doubt about it, if you are the kind of punter who is happy with covered everything and I mean covered damn near everything, you will most certainly have a great time with some of them.

But if any of you are thinking those top 5% best lookers at Thermae are so needy during this time to loosen up on their grip of condom condom condom for just about anything related to sexual pleasure for the man and shifting them into True GFE/Real Sex mode with a first time session (or ever), we are definitely not there yet. I suspect we are not there yet with any solid 8+ hooker in Thailand, not just in Thermae. Interestingly, I noticed there was no mention of putting a condom on my tongue before the DATY.

[Sideshow01]

I have a few GoGo dancers from Soi Cowboy on line and it seems times are really bad. Shark and dollhouse basically no customers. Maybe Kazy / crazy and long gun can still pull in some due to the show or lack of clothes.

[Turgid]

Day 2.

I decide I wanted to save some bht and only go for 1 encounter today. I knew I didn't want to go the massage route. I thought about another go go bar route but I decided if I was going to save on bht, I'd go the freelance route. I took a step back on the TF / Tinder route because the pace that I was going, I would have about 15 prospects lined up. I could barely manage the 6 I had that were ready to come over. I kept telling them, I will see you later today. So I stuck with 4 out of the 6 (dropped the two asking for 3000) and stopped fishing for others. The plan was to pick up someone from the street or have one of the 4 to come over. I hit the streets around 10. Realizing that I had totally forgotten there were two other redlight districts so I decided to recon soi cowboy. Before heading to Soi Cowboy I walked the streets. Many freelancers out tugging on me. I eventually head to Soi. I get there, stand on the corner, take a deep breath before heading down the road. I didn't know what to expect. Right as I got past the taxis, taxi drivers and motorbikes, the line opened up a hole to where I could see almost all the way to the end of the road. It felt like I was Emmitt Smith and the offensive line had cleared the path for me to score. I'm telling you, as I began walking it felt like I was the only guy on the street. It felt like triumph but quickly turned to terror. I truly felt like a naked woman walking through a male prison. The women in the street staring, some making kissing sounds, some yelling out "I remember you," "Come over here" "Heyyyyy. " I couldn't wait to get to the end. Right as I was getting close, someone grabbed me with force and locked up my arm. I'm thinking, "this is it," the police are here to arrest me. I'm not sure what I did wrong but this officer is grabbing me with such force, it had to be really bad. I look up to ask the officer what I did wrong and it's an absolutely beautiful scantily clad woman. "Hey, don't leave me, come with me. " I wanted to leave but she was just so damn fine. She was taller than me, nice ass, nice tits, my goodness, perfect. But I wanted to leave, gather my thoughts and then walk back through. But this woman was strong and she wasn't letting me go. I'm negotiating with her to allow me to leave. I'm promising that I will return to see her. By this time her friends are coming over smiling and laughing. She's saying "Liar, liar. " Her English is not good. I'm telling her I promise I will come back and to please let me go. I forcefully try to pull away and she holds on tighter. She loosens her grip down to my wrist, holding it with both her hands. She bows down and bows her head and begs me not to leave. Now, there's 5 more of her friends walking up. All giggling. Again, I tell this beautiful, possessive girl that I promise I will come back. She makes me pinky swear and finally loosens her grip. We pinky swear and she again says "liar. " As she's letting go I deliberately look up to catch the name of the bar so that when I leave I can check my notes on my phone. I had a list of do's and don'ts on my phone but I forgot to review them before day 2 started. So I look up and see the word DeJa Vu. I walk out to the corner, find a safe spot and pull out my phone to check my notes. Under the heading of Places to Avoid, I see DeJa Vu. Damnit, she was so damn beautiful but I wasn't going against my notes. So I got myself together messaged one of my ladies from TF and told her to meet me back at my place. Told her I was out and about, needed to eat before we meet. She replied "OK, I wait for you. " I head to Sukhumvit 4 to check out the sights. I pass by many ladyboys and freelancers. It was tough to turn down some of the freelancers but I was sticking to my plan. I was going to bang the cute freelancer from TF for 1500 bht. After eating, hugging up on and chatting with freelancers, I message my TF cutie and tell her to meet me at my place. I get to my place first, she messages me, I go down to pick her up. It's around 1:30 am I get off the elevator and my cutie is sitting down in the lobby. I walk up and I'm taken aback. My cutie looks like a ladyboy. She's tall and has some strong features. I'm a little worried. She's warm and friendly but very nervous. We go up the elevator, the whole time I'm thinking, this a f*cking ladyboy and I have to get rid of her. We get in the room and she's super nervous. I'm showing no emotion and not friendly at all. She suggests a game and that each time a person loses they have to take off an article of clothing. We play and I lose and she tells me to take off an article of clothing. I refuse and tell her she needs to disrobe. She mentions a shower and asked could we shower together. Now I'm confused, she really thinks I'm going to be OK disrobing to get into the shower with her when she pulls out a sausage? I tell her to disrobe. I'm standing there ready to put her out as soon as the worm comes dangling down. She eventually takes off everything and I see a vagina. WTH, no way, maybe I'm wrong. She suggests we shower. I'm still confused but I go with it because she definitely doesn't have a male part. I look at the breast and in my mind I'm thinking that those are breasts grown from taking hormone pills. I'm totally confused at this point. She bathes me and starts giving me a BBBJ in the shower. Pornstar style. We dry off, go to the bed and she tells me to lay back. Proceeds to go to work with a very good BBBJ. She's all over the boys and all. Now, in my head, I'm back to thinking "this is a post op ladyboy. Why else is she going so hard on the BBBJ. She wants me to pop so we don't go all the way. " So I tell her enough, I say "I want some p*ssy. " She pulls out some lube and starts fingering herself. The lube has me second guessing again. She asks for a condom, I get one and put it on but I'm thinking I don't want to go through with this. She gets on top and starts putting it in. She's super tight. It's barely fitting in and I tell her I'm done. I say "it's OK, it's too tight, I'm OK. " She says, no I want you to come." She rips off the condom and goes back to sucking. I stop her again and tell her I'm OK. Mentally I wasn't into it. We get dressed and I give her the 1500 bht. She asked for a tip but I declined and she left. I don't know 100% what her story is, but in my mind, it was enough to throw me off.........

For me post-ops are worse than lady boys. At least with a lady boy you can abort when you see the sausage. With a post-op there is all that touching, kissing, sucking and coitus.....with a man.

[Reggie1980]

Thanks for the advice Skepti.

Damn Reggie, definitely a lot of mistakes but I hope you had a good time nonetheless. I would really suggest meeting someone more experienced to show you around for a night. Then you can watch and learn from him on how to pick the right bars (experience), avoid LBs (don't walk past their bars, even if you have to take a longer route), decline lady drinks and tip requests from unattractive girls and mamasans (smile, and say no or "cannot".

Also in terms of writing, I would suggest putting in a few more paragraphs to make it easier to read.

Keep it up!

[BenPincus]

Yes I LT'the one late last year.

Before I get a shower of questions: She had the most incredible smile on the rotating stage and was super pretty but as the night wore on the clues mounted up more and more (numerous personality and behavioural traits, hidden aggression, warning from my friends Thai GF who knew instinctively, her trying to shortcut the hotel and get physical in a darkened restaurant toilet etc.). It ended at the Sofitel of course and I saw her completely naked and then the final evidence with my own eyes. Wasn't too bothered to be fair and actually found the whole episode quite amusing / interesting (still see her updates on Line) but we won't be settling foot in there again.

The next few days me and my mate recounted other girls there, some of whom we've talked to in the past and suffice to say we are fairly certain there are others.

Twister, Butterflies and R2 are the best bars for us. Never any problems.

First off a nagging question. Does this bar have post-ops? The girls on the rotating stage (not the ones in the jacuzzi) are tall and some have bodies that are too good to be true.

Took a girl for ST from said stage. Usual damage (1000 + 3000).

Again some blood on the condom after we finished. I asked through Google if she was menstruating, she said "no, too big". I told her next time please complain out loud if it hurts! This has been happening to me quite often in Thailand. It saddens me to think those girls are too polite to complain when they're in pain. I use plenty of lube and my cock is only in the big league in countries like Thailand.

[Nuttin Serious]

In BKK for a couple of days. I'm not a regular, in fact I consider myself a complete amateur who RTFF so can only call it like I see it, compared to a couple years ago.

Ate lunch in Hillary4 this afternoon, one of 6 customers in the entire place. Looking across at Hooters, similar story there. Hostess in H4 said they had a meeting this morning. Their hours are changing tomorrow and staff are nervous.

Looked into Kazykozy for first time last night, was 1 of only 2 customers in the place at 9.30. Some fairly aggressive 'take me now' lap grinding attention from some there. Baccara had a small crop of Japanese or Koreans attending but lots of empty seats and well outnumbered by Girls. This white guy even got a few hopeful looks. But only from the less attrative ones. Saw a perfect 10 for me but cold shouldered.

Visited Thermae for first time. Quite impressed. ! Girls outnumbered guys 10 to 1. Maybe 10 actively sort my attention, waving, and I got smiles from almost all I deliberately tried to make eye contact with, which were all girls I consider in great shape and attractive, 22 - 25 yo. All starting offers at 2500, except for the one I took who dropped from 3 to 2500, then we agreed to 3 k anyway for some extra service. She really made my gogo girl from the night before look unsophisticated, and her skin was so soft. Will def prioritize Thermae in future. Will construct a full report later.