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02-24-20 03:11 #48304
Posts: 1222My Two Cents
Girls know the price level to pitch to get business for example i2500 at Thermae. I know I know you can negotiate but that's the going rate. So what happens when because there are fewer punters to go around more girls are going home empty handed more often. Do they stick to the 2500 until things get back to normal or do a sufficient number break ranks and reduce it to say 2000 or even 1500 to hook a trick? I feel it comes down to how badly they need the money. If the rent is overdue will she turn down 1500 knowing only the more in demand girls can score at 2500. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Another facet of the situation is whether service levels will improve when there are fewer customers in that the girls will realize repeat business becomes more important. As an aside we haven't seen the worst of this virus yet. Over the weekend South Korea Italy and the UK have come into play in a major way. Personally while I don't wear a mask I have never washed my hands more often.
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02-24-20 02:12 #48303
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
All I am saying is that while the Coronavirus is real and commands our serious attention, it is not a disaster or pandemic yet for any country except maybe China. For sure it has affected international travel, but not to the point where we are going to see a huge drop in the price of BKK girls. At least not yet. So far there has only been 35 reported cases in Thailand and no new cases in at least a week or 10 days which is pretty damn good news actually. So I think what you might see right now is more, better availability not doom and gloom. Hey guys on the ground: how busy are the Go Go's and FL nightclubs currently? Full, busy but not full, half empty, or empty. From what my girls are telling me, I believe the Go Go's are somewhat busy, but not anywhere close to full capacity. Kind of like low season.
In any case, let's see how this thing plays out. If the virus starts to multiply exponentially, BKK will become a ghost town and more significantly the Government will close it down. The girls will be afraid to go out to the bars and so will we. But, I think we are a long way off from that. Anyway, I have my fingers crossed and We shall see what we shall see.
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02-24-20 01:50 #48302
Posts: 662Speaking of Thermae, was there tonight around closing time. It was quite dead.
Was fortunate enough to see my one girl in her usual spot at the usual time.
We went out, caught up on missed times, grabbed some food on the street, came back to room, talked some more.
And then she did what she does so well, which is taking care of little Catire.
Also told me some fascinating stories about her Japanese and Korean clientele, as I am her only farang.
The stories are quite interesting. E. g. Difference between generations. Difference between Korean and Japanese customers.
Oh and BTW. Japanese schlongs are apparently bigger these days.
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02-24-20 01:00 #48301
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by MichaelSamuel [View Original Post]
I sometimes seriously wonder if any but a tiny fraction of these girls are in the P4P business for the usual storied reasons of "desperation" for financial support, milk for their babies, get mom out of the hospital, blah, blah, blah. I don't mean anyone should ever have taken that crap literally. But even as a tale for them to tell as a substitute for any other serious reasons for going the P4P route, it just doesn't add up.
By now I have heard hundreds if not thousands of "I must have (fill in the baht amount here) tomorrow or I'll die! Please, can I come see you today??" stories and variations of them. I used to work out ways to help IF this and that happened with no greater rate of memorable success in the bed at crunch time than I get with the girls who are so busy with customers it takes days for them to return a Line message.
And, of course, now that I almost never respond to those pleas of "tomorrow I will die!" anymore, every one of those "desperate" girls, old repeats and new contacts alike, are still alive and kicking days later, no reports of their death, starved babies, moms prevented from leaving hospitals for lack of payment or anything of the kind. No, they show up again just as before, no change in their life or routine, seemingly well fed and taken care of and no memory of me having casually chosen their death over seeing them for a P4P fuck and suck several days earlier.
Maybe this time it will be different. Eventually. But I am not planning on it and would honestly be shocked if it was.
The only difference I have seen or noticed so far after a few weeks of coronavirus hysteria downturn is Thai street girls bothering to engage in conversation a tad longer than usual with certain heretofore ethnic undesirables to them and a slight uptick in the number of "Hi. How are you?" Line messages I'm getting from my regulars.
But in no case in my experience at least are agreements to do more, do better and/or for less money being made either on the street, in the bars or among my regulars. Not in Thailand, that is. Not yet anyway.
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02-23-20 20:46 #48300
Posts: 146Pregnant or milk
I am coming back and was wondering if anyone knows of any lactating or pregnant providers?
We all have our kinks.
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02-23-20 20:08 #48299
Posts: 280Originally Posted by CrazyMan [View Original Post]
Where I would expect to see it is in the part timers first since they are more tuned into earning now since it can't be earned tomorrow, so maybe the FL, wechat, and thermae part timers will see the opportunity first.
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02-23-20 19:55 #48298
Posts: 280Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I am guilty as charged at not holding the girls up to higher standard and in all my years only kicked out 2 girls with 500-1 k baht after they total dissapointed. Problem is I am always on my precious vacation days and when I consider the greater loss its the time and not the money. I have improved over the years on refining selection and become a lot pickier so my success rate is higher but it is difficult to hold them to the standard I should.
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02-23-20 17:19 #48297
Posts: 195Originally Posted by OlJoh [View Original Post]
Do you maybe know the TF username of this girl?
Thanks.
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02-22-20 21:07 #48296
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
Now, an episodic day and night like the one I just reported on was not one of those times when I was driven to get laid my way come hell or high water, although I can see how it might read that way. If it had been I would have gone about things differently.
It was really just one of those days where I had nothing else to do so thought I would check out the massage shop girl's deal, then I happened to be walking past Thermae on my way back to my apartment later that night so I popped in just to watch the parade, then out on the street and oh, here's a new FL I'd never seen before grabbing my arm and so on.
I love times like that where it doesn't really matter how things turn out, not much money is on the line, just seeing if there is anything worth my time here and there. Of course, that is a luxury expats who live here can enjoy more than when you have spent serious money to fly here and back, rent a hotel room, devoted precious vacation days to it and all of that as most do.
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02-22-20 20:34 #48295
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Bunky [View Original Post]
So that is why I mentioned just giving her 1,000 baht and "off she went." But I would have concluded the same as you and felt the same way about it based on a detail that did not manage to move from my memory to my final report.
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02-22-20 17:23 #48294
Posts: 624Originally Posted by Crocodilexp [View Original Post]
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02-22-20 17:15 #48293
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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02-22-20 17:10 #48292
Posts: 516Moving The Goal Line
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I understand the concept that the customer is always right. As the transgender hooker in the movie classic "Risky Business" tells Joel Goodson: "I mean, when you put your good money down you got to get what you wanted in the first place. Know what I mean? When you buy a TV, you don't buy Sony if you want RCA."
But as the old saw reminds us, often the perfect is the enemy of the good. That is, I think, especially true in this pursuit of ours. I'm not telling anybody what to do. But if were me, I would have declared victory and enjoyed myself, even if I didn't get that last five percent performance.
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02-22-20 17:04 #48291
Posts: 16Internet dating in the time of Corona
Rather than replying to the previous posts I thought it better to start a new post and give you some of my experiences since the corona virus became an issue. Like EihTooms I haven't noticed any marked change from any of the girls I met. I have moved from shops and street freelancers to internet dating sites such as Tinder, WeChat and TF as I am finding better looking girls here. Over the past 2 months I hooked up with 6 different girls who I met this way.
2 that immediately declared themselves as FL.
2 that told me they had no job and asked for a financial contribution.
2 that had no financial expectations as they have their own business and just want a good time.
All of them arrived with face mask but once in my condo it was business as usual.
The first freelancer was a lady called Su Sue. She asked 2 K for 2 hours She usually works at one of the massage shops on Soi 22 but had contacted me via WeChat. Not the greatest looker but her service performance was outstanding. Her BBBJ technique was excellent with good suction. After DATY somehow the prepared condom was ignored and we went through the FS program with a COF finish.
The second FL was an Indonesian girl named Jessie with an incredibly hot body and like other Indos I have met an almost aggressive approach to sex. She was the total PSE program including anal and sandwich with toy. After 2 rounds I felt like I had been in a cage fight. She had asked for 3,5 K but was totally worth it. She had excellent English and loved to talk dirty. Unfortunately she left a few days later and I didn't get the chance to repeat. This girl I had also met via WeChat.
On TF I met a girl called Sunisa. Tiny girl about 38 kg. Age given as 35 but Probably older. She quoted 2 K ST and 3 K LT. Liked what I saw from the pictures and after chatting for a few days took the chance on LT at my condo. She was super excited about that and after a beer to relax her a bit she did everything possible to please me and all holes were available BBFS. She fell asleep with my dick in her mouth and woke me up next morning with a wonderful blowjob. I had assumed that she would be on her way after breakfast but somehow she made no attempts to leave and as it was a Sunday we went straight back to bed where we stayed for the rest of the day. She left Monday morning when I had to get ready for work. Gave her the agreed 3 K which she was happy with and asked when she could see me again. Subsequently she came back a couple of nights over the following weeks but I had to cut the cord since she was becoming clingy and suggested of moving in, haha.
On WeChat I met another girl called Wantika. Late twenties, bit of a mummy tummy but nice boobs and gives a great BBBJ. She is the "quicky" girl during lunch hour. She gets 1.5 K and we meet at a nearby curtain hotel close to my office. I think she also works in an office nearby because she is usually formally dressed when we meet. Condoms were used a few times to start with but afterwards got ignored. We usually end with CIM. Hinted that she would like to spend more time with me after work but I don't think so.
During CNY I met 2 ladies on Tinder that are totally non-commercial. I am not giving their names because of that and also I am interested in keeping both them for a longer time. Both of them have their own business. They are both in their mid-thirties.
One owns two hair salons, is also a Yoga teacher with and incredibly toned body. She lives a little outside of Bangkok and usually comes to pick me up in her car as she prefers that we go to her house and spend the night there. Never has been married and never had a baby. She horny as hell and has incredible stamina. As she works at the weekends we usually meet on her days off which requires a bit work scheduling for me but so far we managed to meet once a week. The only downside is her poor English which combined with my little Thai sounds like two 3 years olds having a conversation. But since we spend most of the time in the sack it hardly matters.
The other one has a small hotel in the outskirts. She is not fat at all but a bit on the plumper side (about 62 kg) But she has an amazing rack for a Thai with a firm 38 the cup. I think coming to my place is a mini holiday for her. She loves to cook for me and then have a long sex session. She told me she has been divorced for the past 2 years and since she has to run the hotel by herself doesn't get a lot of time to date and certainly never wants to be with another Thai man again. She has an eight year old son who stays with her and is looked after by her sister who jointly runs the hotel with her. During sex she comes with in the first 10 minutes and then gets off multiple times during the course of our session. I would say the ratio is 5:1 in her favor haha.
In summary, I have seen no difference in the mating behavior after Corona. Unfortunately I am going to the US for three month due to work commitment and dread the the dry months ahead of me.
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02-22-20 13:46 #48290
Posts: 52Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I think you will have to wait two or three more months before the girls around Asia start to get really desperate and start to lower their prices and up their services. First the Chinese stopped coming. Now Koreans and Japanese have started to cancel en masse. Other Asians from other nearby countries are also starting to reconsider traveling. Europeans are less likely to come to Asia for their holidays later this year.
It will take a few more months but the dominoes are starting to fall slowly and this will accelerate in the coming months. If as a business or person you depend on income from tourism you will be in big trouble. Thailand and most SE and E Asian countries will have one of their worst years in a long time. It will be a buyers market in a few months.