Bangkok Reports

[Gargano19]

Emotional reaction. Probably the good girls were busy already or booked. Doki Doki has some ugly girls (as per my first visit did not select a girl from 5 available) or just not my spec. Also has some better girls. My 2nd visit was a quiet time (Tuesday early afternoon maybe). 12+ girls available. I chose a slim girl with a very toned body. 1 or 2 others were possibilities. I don't really choose to evaluate all the other non starters. No point to it. Simply, the line up varies a lot.

Seeing 7 girls does not mean we know everything about the MP. Better luck next time.

In Doki the one does not have to pay before seeing the line up. I never do that. I did not notice any scams.

Does any MP have a lot of stunning girls? Maybe some Jap only MP will have well above average standard. All the MPs are packed full of dogs (from a pessimistic point of view), but there has to be some acceptable girls to be found somewhere, sometime.

I went into Club 102 with a large line up and failed to choose a girl. This could happen anywhere.

It's true. Yesterday I visited soi 31,33 (except doki doki because there was no room available for rest of day), amd looked at girls of many shops, dreak haven, hera, orange, mitu, thanks massage shop and I couldn't find a single doable girl.

Maybe it was my unlucky day but still 5-7 shops and not a single young cute girl. All were old, fat and with heavy makeup.

I feel only gogos and thermae are only options, if you want to bang hot chicks.

[Syzygies]

I guess I took a long way to answer a short question. Where are the best bang for your buck freelancers? Soi 4 still? Soi 11 hopefully? And honestly from someone who just got one in the last couple weeks, what's the LT fee average? This forum is cluttered with a wide margin, so just hoping a person who just LT a girl could tell me what price they paid.

Soi 4 has probably improved for standard of the best girls available, but just as many dogs as before. Yes its value for money if you get lucky and choose a good girl willing to make it fun, and body turns out not to be a disaster. She may not be the cheapest on the Soi. Thermae is a bit more costly, but also somewhat more risky for Farangs, if too picky about getting good natural looks (that is me).

I don't do LTs any more, well rarely. The price varies tremendously, depending on the girl. Some girls need as much as double a ST fee to consider it, meaning they don't need the business that desperately. They would prefer to do 2 or 3 STs per night. Some girls desperate or not busy, will do a good deal. Some girls just don't do LT at all. Have to get home to parents or to child or whatever. I suppose every girl is persuadable for enough money but that could be a silly price. Some guys will tell you take the ST fee and add 1 K. However many girls will certainly reject that as not enough to be worthwhile, if they can afford to loose the customer.

[Syzygies]

3 pm Saturday.

The fucking heartbeat is dead. Middle aged mothers with 60 kilos of bodyweight and dark rough skin to boot offered there. I saw 7 girls and walled straight out. I don't care if they use Nuru gel, an old overweight hag doesn't rock my world.

Walked on down to soi 24 to all the little shops and the girls were all sitting outside in plain view, not like Doki where it was all a big scam with girls behind a curtain and you have to pay before even seeing the girl live.

Emotional reaction. Probably the good girls were busy already or booked. Doki Doki has some ugly girls (as per my first visit did not select a girl from 5 available) or just not my spec. Also has some better girls. My 2nd visit was a quiet time (Tuesday early afternoon maybe). 12+ girls available. I chose a slim girl with a very toned body. 1 or 2 others were possibilities. I don't really choose to evaluate all the other non starters. No point to it. Simply, the line up varies a lot.

Seeing 7 girls does not mean we know everything about the MP. Better luck next time.

In Doki the one does not have to pay before seeing the line up. I never do that. I did not notice any scams.

Does any MP have a lot of stunning girls? Maybe some Jap only MP will have well above average standard. All the MPs are packed full of dogs (from a pessimistic point of view), but there has to be some acceptable girls to be found somewhere, sometime.

I went into Club 102 with a large line up and failed to choose a girl. This could happen anywhere.

[Diglerni]

Its been a year or 2 since my last visit to BKK and I've read the forums. Last time I was there Thermae was still ok for white guys. Seems like some recent post make it seem as no longer. I heard there was another freelancer bar at the Hyatt hotel or something like that.

I'm not much on paying go gos ridiculous bar fines, so I only go there for the show and then go find a girl. Massage shops are ok, but I like bringing a girl back. I'm staying on soi 11, so I'll be in the thick of things.

I guess I took a long way to answer a short question. Where are the best bang for your buck freelancers? Soi 4 still? Soi 11 hopefully? And honestly from someone who just got one in the last couple weeks, what's the LT fee average? This forum is cluttered with a wide margin, so just hoping a person who just LT a girl could tell me what price they paid.

As always thanks and I'll post any updates when I get there.

[Sinofaguo]

Doki Doki

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...LIP-and-ANNIES!

[Steve 9696]

Hey,

Newbie question here.

Why are the Arab clubs in BKK frowned upon?

Is it there location?

The girls?

The clientele?

Or all of the above?

Cheers.

Are.

My experience is three years back by I distinctly remember feeling the sleazy rip off vibe in Deja Vue. I poked my head in and it was pretty dead but a cute and bubbly girl dragged me in. Before I knew it there were two girls with me and both ordering drinks. They were sorta fun so I didn't protest too loudly. Then they started to order round two and as I recall they had not put the bill in the cup like they did other places. Fortunately I still had a little scam radar up and said I wanted to see the bill before ordering anything more. And it was a lot higher than I expected — a lot more than other places. So I paid and high tailed it.

I think I wrote about it at the time and warned others off and someone said it was part of the Arab chain.

[AmericanThief]

Just Monika.

3 pm Saturday.

The fucking heartbeat is dead. Middle aged mothers with 60 kilos of bodyweight and dark rough skin to boot offered there. I saw 7 girls and walled straight out. I don't care if they use Nuru gel, an old overweight hag doesn't rock my world.

Walked on down to soi 24 to all the little shops and the girls were all sitting outside in plain view, not like Doki where it was all a big scam with girls behind a curtain and you have to pay before even seeing the girl live.

Many decent girls, white skin, young, smiling, pigtails, braids, cute, sexy, cosplay etc. Calling for my money love.

Found a small young 22 year old spinner with a face and body like Lisa. GFE with DFK and all the normal positions a newbie girl does and hit me with that DDu-Du-DDu-Du, 90 min jacuzzi room for 3,000 baht too you jive turkeys.

[Syzygies]

Bars in Soi Cowboy (not a location problem): Kiss, Sahara, Rio, Deja Vu, Midnight, Spice Girls, and I probably / maybe forgot one.

It seems that Rawhide has been bought by the Arab too, or lease taken over. Why would he need more? Existing bars have lots of girls but few customers. Makes little sense, unless trying to eventually eliminate hookers from the Cowboy.

Meanwhile overall Cowboy customers probably keep declining despite diversification to Ladyboys and non-hooker bars. Customers diversified as well finding other ways to find girls for sex, drinking or whatever.

[Syzygies]

Made a round along all floors to see where to enter first. Billboard it was, mostly because of the reviews here on ISG. There were some nice girls indeed, on one stage nude titties and on the other stage normal bikinis. The group with bikinis were most attractive for me. On I went to Rainbow 4, again because of the reputation. Was disappointed, face and titties not attractive. Billboard was doing better at that. Even left my beer half full, and went on to Spankys. Sitting for a few minutes with nothing going on (they just cleaned up after a wax candle show) and with no mamasan asking me to drink something. Did not see any talent so I got up and left (probably should have left directly after coming in). Oh well, not too much into this game anyway.

Last bar was Twisters downstairs, with again part nude titties and part bikinis. I think I also saw fully nude in the distance, but not sure (it's a big bar). I was seated with the bikinis and had a good view. Best girls of this evening so far!

Largely I agree.

We get a lot of vastly different opinions on this topic. Some guys say the topless girls at Billboard in the bath are better looking. Blinded by the tits, perhaps? Well at last we can see how good the tits are. Even I appreciate girls more once their top comes off, if they have really nice tits to show off. The less they wear, the better for me.

Some guys are very impressed by all the surgeries girls at RB4, but that is not me. A small number of them may be naturally good looking.

Many guys will find girls to be gorgeous, merely because they have a great body, and look very young. The face does not seem to count a lot and Billboard stage is quite darkly lit for a reason. Many faces there are a bit ordinary (not all). I am possibly really warped. If a girl has a stunning face, and a reasonably good body, I really go for that, and can even forgive exaggerated sillies, if the rest is really stunning. Otherwise the sillies won't impress me, and I will pass. Face surgeries have to be very subtle to pass for me. Some guys like very white girls. In Billboard its hard to tell due to weak lighting.

I think we each have our own special spec, and for me that is slim but curves, and small face sometimes described as an inverted triangle shaped face, and as natural looking as possible. I have a buddy who always describes my girls as "a bag of bones" and obviously he liked far more voluptuous types. I described his girls as fat and plain. Another guy even joked that my buddy would pick the ugliest girl in the room (to our taste). We would never fight over the same girl. Ha ha.

[Syzygies]

Hey,
Newbie question here. Why are the Arab clubs in BKK frowned upon? Is it there location? The girls?
The clientele? Or all of the above?
Cheers.

A "No" to all questions I think.

The "Arab's" bars actually belong to an Iranian. There are rumours that the bars cannot possibly make any money and are for money laundering purposes only. This from persons who have been working in the Soi for years and hear all the gossip and inside info. Otherwise they would have all closed down.

Bars in Soi Cowboy (not a location problem): Kiss, Sahara, Rio, Deja Vu, Midnight, Spice Girls, and I probably / maybe forgot one.

Supposedly the girls that work there are not available for sex (officially), so even if you barfined them, does not mean you would get a fuck. They have Coyotes and maybe Gogo girls. You can entertain girls and buy drinks for them. Will work out expensive with almost zero benefits other than a fun time for guys with plenty of money.

There was the odd rumour of customers being fleeced for many things they did not order, and being threatened. I did not experience that myself. So I can't be sure it is true or a big misunderstanding when customers agree to something without knowing they agreed to it. Ha ha. One guy wrote online that he was grossly over charged two times, and he would never return to one of those bars. I smell a rat. Why did he go the 2nd time?

These bars are a waste of time for me if I cannot possibly fuck a girl that appeals to me. Would I go there for top conversation with sexy girls? No, I can think of other options. Girls are not nude of course.

Cowboy 2 is a similar type bar but not one of the "Arab's". There thee barfines are possibly lower, and girls might be hookers. So I suggest try that one.

These days, so many bars are full of a combination of Coyotes and Go-go girls. Some of the Coyotes may be "good girls" and not available for sex. Coyotes have a steeper barfine. Coyotes may not know how to dance Coyote style, often are wearing tights (not always), usually have double layer bras so one has no clue if they have any tits or not. Officially Coyotes should be wearing very short cut off shorts (but not always). Coyotes will not be nude, nor see through bras, nor knickerless, as far as I know. Coyotes are usually hired by an agency and supplied to various bars. This causes them to be more expensive to BF. Shark was one of my regular bars with gogo girls and with Coyotes. I never took a Coyote there but others do.

Billboard in Nana is considered a superior bar, and has a lot of reasonable prices Coyotes, and also some topless non-Coyotes.

Is there really any reason to go to The Arab's bars? I don't think so. I would prefer to see them close providing not replaced by Ladyboy bars.

[Mr Ricky]

Hey,

Newbie question here.

Why are the Arab clubs in BKK frowned upon?

Is it there location?

The girls?

The clientele?

Or all of the above?

Cheers.

Are.

[EihTooms]

I have not been a guy trying to get BB by the girl being drunk (at least not consciously ha ha). We do talk about a small number of drinks as being leg openers. Some girls are rather dull unenthusiastic fucks when sober, but start to lose control and go wild and horny after a few drinks. I certainly notice my Mrs. Is much more horny after some alcohol as well (good weed even better).

However there are girls that don't need leg openers that are fairly enthusiastic stone cold sober. These girls tend to deteriorate with alcohol consumed and become useless when a bit drunk. Some Thai girls can turn into voracious animals, when drunk. Once they get too aggressive, that is a turn off for me.

So I think we have to know the girl and how shy she is, and what is a suitable number of drinks for that particular girl. Many Asians are supposedly allergic to alcohol and may not handle even a couple of drinks really well. I never BF very drunk girls (have learned from the bad experiences). Just don't need that hassle. Recall one very drunk girl, just split from a BF who went far too wild, starting crapping on about wanting to make my baby, etc. So no way was I going to risk a CIP. Vasectomy now a high priority! Ha ha.

Yes, and I have met several girls on the dating sites who ask if I have beer in my room and do I mind if they have a couple of beers when they come over, before we have sex, to help them relax and become less shy. This is in the case where it is well understood our first meeting at my apartment is all about us having sex and not about just saying Hello, or hanging out together for the day or evening. Of course, I generally say no problem without hesitation in that case. I keep beer in my fridge for that and other reasons. However, there have been a couple of times where I have called off our first "date" because the girl's interest in alcohol is so keen, overriding and repeated in our Line chat or whatever that I see warning flags ahead.

I understand they might not be warning flags for guys who themselves are really into drinking as much as possible in their free time. To each their own. But since I am not really into it, I have already had my fill of boring nights sitting with girls who pound down one after another all evening with very little if any "upside" in it for me, sexual or otherwise, and I am happy to take a pass on such a girl these days.

[BestTimeEver]

This afternoon something else to do, so only hobby time for the evening. Went to Nana at about 9:30. Soi 4 was showing better talent than earlier this week, was tempted but wanted to see Nana again after having had a good night yesterday at Patpong.

Made a round along all floors to see where to enter first. Billboard it was, mostly because of the reviews here on ISG. There were some nice girls indeed, on one stage nude titties and on the other stage normal bikinis. The group with bikinis were most attractive for me. On I went to Rainbow 4, again because of the reputation. Was disappointed, face and titties not attractive. Billboard was doing better at that. Even left my beer half full, and went on to Spankys. Sitting for a few minutes with nothing going on (they just cleaned up after a wax candle show) and with no mamasan asking me to drink something. Did not see any talent so I got up and left (probably should have left directly after coming in). Oh well, not too much into this game anyway.

Last bar was Twisters downstairs, with again part nude titties and part bikinis. I think I also saw fully nude in the distance, but not sure (it's a big bar). I was seated with the bikinis and had a good view. Best girls of this evening so far! Few ladydrinks for my favorite, for which she showed her appreciation by enough grinding and playing around. Touching was totally OK, together we just made it all light and fun with kidding. Very very nice ass, good natural boobs but also braces. That's not really my thing, so no ST action with her. Otherwise the signs were very good for a nice performance. Last memorable note: the fatty and her husband (from my previous post on Patpong) were here as well. She was having a great time again with two girls, full-on party mode. Good for her!

I left Nana and walked over to Thermae. Made the round, but not succesful. There were certainly some good looking girls (better than at Nana and soi 4), but none below 50 yo were interested in me. LOL Smiling back was reserved for Asian guys. Did not want to invest a lot of time or put in too much effort in unwilling girls, but preferred sleep over a potentially bad session. Perhaps I have given up too easily, you think? Well, anyway, I have had my good time at Nana, even if I did not get laid. Two experiences richer!

[Turgid]

................I find the modern webcams to be funny in a way, with names like "Chaturbate" and "Stripchat", as though the chatting part was really important. Yeh some guys have a desire to pay money to make their smart ass comments. Ha ha............

Reminds me of the sex shops on 42nd Street, NYC, in the 70's and 80's. You enter the booth, put in a token, the curtain went up revealing a live naked girl behind a glass. There was a receiver to chat with the girl. You can ask her to do what you want. Guys would jerk off to her doing the same. I used to ask them to meet me after work, for a fee of course.

[Syzygies]

The time to chat with her is before going into the room, while deciding whether you want this girl or not. Once I decide to take a chick to the room, 30 min is enough for me.

Some guys are trying to get a lot of free chat time with the girl. That is not me. I am there for sex not for some girl to listen to my verbal rubbish, or for me to listen to her verbal stuff. Okay Some girls do have some interesting funny gossip. I do chat a bit to any girls that I know well that I could call a buddy (one girl from Puerto Rico was into chatting a bit and she was a forum reader too).

I know girls that I can use for conversation (sex not involved). That my only cost me buying her a drink or too. So I largely separate requirements for social and for sex, if paying a hooker.

If I pay for 60 minutes and fucking is all done at 50 minutes, then sure can chat for the last few minutes remaining if there is anything to chat about. It must many years since I completed a sex encounter in 30 minutes. Sometimes 60 minutes was not enough, even when not taking a massage at an MP. If I get a ST room for 60 minutes only, we use the whole 60 minutes, including showering and brush the teeth. DATY is probably usually between 5 and 20 minutes (for really slow girls). Have had girls needing 25 minutes of DATY to cum on a rare occasion. Most guys don't have the patience. One hooker (latin) told me I was first customer to ever make her cum (from DATY) as no one else went long enough (with the skills). Can't be sure she was not telling porkies, but it is not a common story to hear.

It is a danger to spend a lot of time on DATY, only to later find the girl is dick scared with stiff legs making it a lousy fuck. Ha ha.

I still think Thailand is not best value to take a girl for 30 minutes. If doing that, then I think a BJ shop is best, and can pay a bonus to naked and include a fuck. I used to use this approach when time available was very short. Girls on Soi 4 are another good option for a more cost effective 30 minute fuck, however I take them for longer than 30 minutes every time. I am prepared to pay a bonus if the girl deserves it.

I find the modern webcams to be funny in a way, with names like "Chaturbate" and "Stripchat", as though the chatting part was really important. Yeh some guys have a desire to pay money to make their smart ass comments. Ha ha. On here we can make smart ass comments for free. Free webcams to me are just another alternative to watching free porn, preferring very pretty girls with stunning bodies of course. Don't need any guys. Ha ha. In Thailand we can just go get some real girls we can touch, which is better.