Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

Hey,

Could I just check with you how much you paid for the 60 or 90 minute session? One of my buddies went there and said they asked for 4700 for an hour. I don't know if that's because he looked like a newbie and they thought they could take advantage of him or some other reason.

4700 sounds unlikely unless he ordered something special. I would be very surprised if any rip offs are attempted. Communication problem is more likely.

[Syzygies]

Anyways, unless go go bars are absolutely your thing, I really recommend hitting up like Thermae, massage places, or even just walking down Soi 4 at night, instead. The gogos are really leaving something to be desired at the moment. Maybe they'll get better in a few weeks (or a month or so) when tourist season picks up. Some of the dancers (and waitresses) were saying that a few of their friends were still on holiday.

I agree the decline is marked. After 9. 30 Pm might be too late to arrive to any bar, with any decent girls snapped up early. I agree Crazy House has gone down hill so much I don't bother any more. Baccarat have not been in for a long time, so no idea. I don't see that surgeries is really making girls look better than they would be naturally. Never took a girl from Lighthouse.

In Billboard the bath dancers tend to have better lighting and of course seeing the tits helps, but I question if they are really cuter for the face. Perhaps so, because plain Janes are hidden somewhat on stage by very poor lighting. I did not know that 2 lady drinks was becoming a requirement.

Natty has previously suggested some Pat Pong bars that might be worth a try.

[TrueBlue666]

I hit random Gogos in Nana & SC every night last weekend and also last night (Wednesday).

The SC bars. Baccara is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and somehow more expensive. I didn't bother hitting the second floor because the first floor was so "meh. " But they typically (in the past) put the best gals on the first floor because of all the asian customers crowded down there. Crazy House was also "meh. " Maybe my standards were too high? I wasn't drinking. Anyways, no one I was willing to grab, and the damned waitresses were relentless with the "one more one more one more" despite not being empty. Tried Lighthouse, and I can only say I wish the gals they use to advertise on twitter were present. They very well might be there at some point, but they weren't when I visited.

Nana. Nana was a better quality wise and price wise, but not exactly by a mile. Billboard & Butterflies still annoy me with the two lady drink minimum thing, but there really weren't any gals I was interested in buying those two drinks for, so it was fine. LOL The jacuzzi girls were typically more energetic, and generally cuter as they have always been since I've been visiting. Still, none of them quite did it for me; I have to echo my previous complaint about Lighthouse. I wish the twitter girls had been present (I know they work there I've seen them before). Don't go to Billboard after 830 if you want a decent seat, it still gets crazy busy for whatever reason. Mandarin (the one up the stairs, not the table dancing bar) had some cuties, but no customers, so it was. Super awkward. I was getting stared down. I had to leave (this happened two nights). I also visited Angelwitch and Spankys (Spankies?) but honestly I just go there to drink and watch them, I've never taken a girl from either. The only place I took any girls from was Twisters. It didn't seem to get too packed any particular night and the lineup has 4-5 girls that I'd take. Ended up going with a waitress though, never did that before, didn't even realize it was an option. Apparently it was just as surprising for the rest of the staff, as she had supposedly turned down every single other farang since she started working. I'm tall, pale as a ghost, and "average" looking for a guy in his 30's, and beyond the fact that I'm generally considered a charming person, I'm not sure how that happened. A rare bit of luck, LOL.

Anyways, unless go go bars are absolutely your thing, I really recommend hitting up like Thermae, massage places, or even just walking down Soi 4 at night, instead. The gogos are really leaving something to be desired at the moment. Maybe they'll get better in a few weeks (or a month or so) when tourist season picks up. Some of the dancers (and waitresses) were saying that a few of their friends were still on holiday.

[AocOrchid]

Ok, so I don't know how experienced you are but I suspect that you may have been a little hasty. Thailand is actually the only country in which I have been successful in bedding a girl met on social media. I am not one who loves the thrill of the chase and am quite impatient in seeking coital release, hence my penchant for our hobby. From my experience I found that the girls I met on social media in LOS basically have the same goal as I have. Initially, they will be a little coy and not as forthright as perhaps western women but you will have them in the sack way quicker than you will a girl back home. My only caveat though and I don't know what other blokes' experiences are in this regard is that I have never gotten a blow job be it CBJ or BBBJ from a non-pro met on social media in Thailand.

Hi Turgid,

Totally agree with you. I am not necessarily hasty, but rather short in time. Also, did not setup ThaiFriendly or Badoo at home first to scout for girls.

Next up was a date with a "chubby" girl, again in Terminal21 at 2 pm. She was late, continuously chatted with me over Line, kept telling me how happy she would make me when she makes it there etc. Etc. . She was so late, that I had to take a Telco and had no time for her. However, curiosity got the better part of me, delayed Telco for 15 min, went to the KFC and my gosh, she wasn't chubby, but rather huge. Glad she was late and I could make a simple excuse and leaver her there. Terrible, when the girls show pictures from years ago!

My next date was scheduled for 7 pm with a thirty something insurance company chick. Not a stunner but a lovely girl and she apologised for being forward and that I hopefully did not think that she was a bad girl. After a quick drink at Black Swans with some general insurance speak (she literally forced me to take her to my hotel room, dimmed lights and started kissing me. We looked at the city lights through the window, while I rubbed up from behind, touching her shapely ass and cupping her be sized breast. She was insecure in terms of her "average" body but horny as hell. Asked me to go slow, but accelerated the pace non-stop. She was happy to learn that I had coconut oil in my room and willingly accepted a massage. So off came her clothes, obvious and normal marks of a mother was visible. I oiled her up, face down, rubbed oil in with my body and dick (previous body to body experience from Snow White, Tulips, and Mango came in handy, turned her around. She moaned that she wanted her nipple sucked and I found her right nipple way more sensitive so focused on it. Kept pouring oil on her and rubbed it in nicely, leaving her pussy for last until she pushed my hand there. Boy was she wet, and tight. I rubbed her outer lips only and she orgasmed a first time. This was going to be easy, as I hadn't even fingered her yet. And so it continued. Made her cum four times, each time she screamed louder, her orgasms were short but strong, her pussy wetter than ever. "Why you not fuck meee?" was her response and in real toi boi manner, I proceeded to please her. Sex was pretty darn forward, none of the wonderful experiences from the parlours, no dick sucking, cat lick etc. Damage a mere taxi fare, RTF most likely in a distant future, as I felt a tad bit used by her! She is texting me already again!

At Turgin: your point is well proven and mine as well: Dating Apps work reasonably well, if you have the hours to waste looking for girls for your evening pleasure and sift through the lady boys and FL. Western men are considerably more attractive to regular Asian women. Asian women use them for their pleasure, outside their cultural norms. In this case, the path from coffee to bed is considerably shortened (it takes me three dinners, over a 2 week period to even start talking to a woman about sex in Europe). Women globally rate men by their education (=wealth / income potential) and height and thus Westerners have an upper hand over local men.

Off to the pool for some more sleep, then check-out. Stroll to Snow White for a last two hours, multiple shot PSE and off to Europe again.

P.S: Did I mention that I just came to buy suits and shirts? No other intentions!

[AocOrchid]

Hey,

Could I just check with you how much you paid for the 60 or 90 minute session? One of my buddies went there and said they asked for 4700 for an hour. I don't know if that's because he looked like a newbie and they thought they could take advantage of him or some other reason.

Line up of girls is on their Twitter Feed.

Prices are communicated over WeChat or Line.

I was quoted 3 k for 60 min and 3.5 k for 90 min.

Hope this helps.

[Syzygies]

Hey Dio. Interested to see your comment. Seems the past two years all posters have been trashing Cowboy as not the place to go. When I went 2 years ago, I enjoyed it but have never been to Nana or PatPong.

Can you elaborate on your reasons it's your preferred destination? Thanks.

Cowboy has indeed declined a lot over even just 5 years ago. Harder to find high standard girls I think, that are not Coyotes. There are bars to avoid, the Arab bars as was said before. I think I forgot to mention Spice Girls as one of them last time. The LB bars (two of them). There maybe a small number of bars still acceptable depending on your taste, and what you are looking for. Get there 8. 30 Pm to 9 PM to see the better girls still there. My last cowboy visit at midnight found largely dregs remaining at the bars I went in.

Some bars have some really nice girls but not available for sex. I hate that. Ha ha. I don't really like girls having any clothes on either. So nudity is still a Cowboy advantage.

[Syzygies]

Yes, I was at Tilac. Another guy ended up taking a girl I was buying drinks for, apparently I didn't mention barfine fast enough, that was my fault, I am new and I didn't know. But I have no problem paying the girl 3 k if I like her, but I am not paying the bar 2 k. At Nana, Billboard, ST barfine was 700. Also I was quoted 3 k for an hour ST, is that a thing now? ST only being 1 hour? Even that seems to vary wildly. Freelancers I was with would stay for hours for ST prices. One girl I had to make sure and asked her how much I owed her because she stayed all night, I was sure I owed the LT price, but no.

A couple of opinions on this:

I don't normally take Coyotes due to the ridiculous barfine amounts. Yes indeed the bar getting 2 K for girl to be absent 1 hour or so is a rip off. She is not likely to sell more than 3 drinks max in the time. However the bar does feel that absence of the best Coyotes detracts from the bar customer pulling power. Having said that, I don't particularly like Tilac bar, and believe a lot of their customers are regulars. The old LB mamasan Dtaay is well known to me. She used to be at Suzie Wong. Taking these Coyotes at end of night might be a good idea if they are still available. It obviously would not be an Arab bar, where girls maybe still barfineable, but officially not available for sex at all.

I dislike the agency girls concept with agencies making a lot of easy money for doing very little. However if the girl was superior enough I might pay more than 700 BF. 2 k seems to bee going too far for a short ST though. 3 k is a common asking price these days. The bar may have rules that the girl only gets 1 hour away, part of the rip off. If the girl herself wants only 1 hour, I would certainly not accept normally. I hate rush.

Fast enough? If you are new you are at a disadvantage. Some guy that has probably taken the girl before, could walk into the bar and BF her immediately if you did not already do so. Has happened to all of us at some time, and more than once, even if have just bought a drink for the girl. When I had a pretty girl (stunning) regular at Crazy House, I was well aware of the danger. So I would be sitting near the door from say 9 PM, and would grab the girl as soon as she entered the door in plain clothes, then assuming she was willing (always was), would hand her the BF money immediately. Others will say this behaviour is silly, we don't want to fight over girls, but in truth, "there is the quick and there is the dead". Draw and fire before its too late. This really applies to highly in demand type girls. Its much easier when you know the girl, since you know how she performs and she knows about you too, so the deal can be done with just a signal from a distance if necessary. For really average girls that get few BFs, then take it very casually. I never liked to decide too quickly on a girl I have never done before, but the risk is her getting BFed by someone else. Happens. So the more stunning the girl, the faster you need to decide, unless the BF is very high.

Imagine now if a bar has 6 special coyotes and they are stunning relative to all the normal gogo girls. If the BF was 700, they could all be BFed by 8. 30 PM and then no stunning girls would remain to pull the customers into the bar. Setting a silly 1 hour limit would help to get the girls back quickly, but a higher BF amount is also needed. 1 K or 1. 5 K but 2 K seems ridiculous. Of course many bars with Coyotes have only 1 or 2 stunners, and most of the Coyotes look quite ordinary to me. Just the girl sees herself as a Coyote even if she does not have the body or face, or ability to dance Coyote style very well at all. Hence I say many are fake Coyotes. Weak dancers.

Coyotes need too meet a drinks sale quota to justify their presence in the bar, salary and agency fees. Therefore they may be requesting drinks too frequently.

[Member #4733]

Can you elaborate on your reasons Soi Cowboy is your preferred destination? Thanks.

I don't think people here have been thrashing Cowboy all that much but let's leave that to the side. First, I live in Holland, not too far from Amsterdam and that is close enough to Germany to go there at least once a month. If you compare the service of German FKK with Amsterdam than German FKK is really better but not always all girls. But the average surely is. If I compare the service and skills of Thai ladies to German FKK than that is just mind-blowing. It's not a difference between a Mercedes and a Volkswagon. No, nothing like it. Thai sex for me is no sex. Totally not interested. If I had to have sex in Thailand only, then I would quit the scene altogether. So a lot of words but why is it an answer to your question? The reason I go to Thailand is for holiday: sights, nature, beach, sea etc. On the side I like to have some fun. I don't mind good sex anymore as it is simply not there. So, I go for good looking girls, (Baccara) nude girls, looking rather good. (CH), playing 'catch-me' with girls (Sharks) or talking to girls (Crazy Cat, Tilac). And I have been to other gogo's and sometimes they have perfectly beautiful girls and a few months later they are all gone. I kind of like that surprise, knowing that I just have to look for a next surprise that is positive and most of times I can find something worthwhile. Gogo bars there don't mind me too much for not barfining as I spent a lot on drinks. On top of that I like things to be clean and straightforward. Soi Cowboy is a straight road. No corners, no hidden places. I have been a few times to Patpong but didn't find any beauties there. For the time of one drink I was thinking about Cowboy. Then next day I tried again and same thing happened. It has no vibe, almost provincial atmosphere. Walking Si Lom is just more fun, I think. Thaniya is a kind of wax museum. Then Nana. I like Billboard but the mamasans are pushy to barfine a girl. And I do not like Nana for one thing. I have been there about five to ten times and at least two times I was asked whether I wanted a minor. A third time it was the same guy I think and he shut up before he could end his sentence.

So, if more experienced writers disagree totally with me on this one, that is perfectly understandable. I am not there for sex. I like some tension. I like beauty. I like the surroundings to be clear cut. By the way, the only good sex I had was in The Lord and that is closed for more than a year now. So, I have given up on that. One more for soapy's: I don't like my dig being rubbed like a carrot. I tried a few massage places but that was nothing special. A few days more and I go home and have good sex. In Bangkok I am just a tourist.

[Donnahito]

Next Up: Doki Doki Massage (Doki Doki means Surprise!

Went there around 4 pm, place was busy, one guy waiting, and after me a Japanese gentleman entered. Line Up was 7 girls and I chose Happy (Baem). Well, Happy was happy to service me and I thoroughly enjoyed the soapy / nuru experience. Room is big, I had 777 and the best news is that it does not smell mouldy or such, despite of the "steaming" up that happens in there. Happy's English was surprisingly fluent and we had a proper conversation. She was cautions at the beginning but then opened up and talked about her life as a massage specialist in various countries.

The service she provided was first rate as well and she took her time: First set was all with soaps, cleaning every crack of my body with her small, tubular boobs with big nipples, pussy and hands. Next up was the Nuru Gel and again she did me front and back. When she saw that I like my ass crack and anus played with she took super long to arouse me there. Nuru gel does not have any taste, and so she started cat licking me everywhere, and I mean everywhere. She proceeded to blow me with some Nuru in her mouth: Absolutely great experience and after a while, amid lots of giggling thanks to the very slippery nature of the blow up mattress we managed to mount the rubber and she rode away like a cowgirls.

Hey,

Could I just check with you how much you paid for the 60 or 90 minute session? One of my buddies went there and said they asked for 4700 for an hour. I don't know if that's because he looked like a newbie and they thought they could take advantage of him or some other reason.

[Banana Boi]

I am really trying to figure out how a bar thinks they should get 2 k for a girl missing 1. 5 hours of work. No gogo girl makes the bar that much.

I can't speak for Bangkok gogo bars since I don't really see the big spenders in Bangkok like I do in Pattaya but sit around Sensations, Sapphire, Palace, etc. And you will see top gogo girls make that much from sucker tourists by just ordering shots.

I turned down a 1000 baht barfine in Pattaya at closing time.

If it's closing time why not eliminate the barfine and make a deal with the girl to go out after the bar closes?

[ChiGuy3385]

Hi Chaps,

So this one is for laughing:

I never really do FL or the social media stuff but this time started talking to a Badoo girl and things are going well. Met her at Terminal21 for coffee and lunch. Super slim, turns out she runs 5 k, 10 k etc. And loves to win the price money! Face is OK, short hair and somewhat annoying voice. So over lunch she gives me a lot of yadi yadi yada, her business burned down, etc. Etc. After a while I ask her what she likes in bed: listening to music. Not even playing the flute!

And so I remembered why I do not do the social media stuff that just takes too darn long to get to the bottom line.

Damage: B250 for her coffee and lunch at food court.

Experience: Hilarious.

Wait, was she even a FL? Or maybe it was Badoo because ThaiFriendly and Tinder they will come out any say the price almost immediately. No long conversations, they don't seem to like that if you aren't a paying customer. In my short experience. I have had the same experiences with Tinder in Costa Rica also.

[ChiGuy3385]

I was quoted 2000 baht barfine and 3000ST in Tilac in April this year. She was a coyote. Maybe tomorrow. I replied. But she was gorgeous.

Yes, I was at Tilac. Another guy ended up taking a girl I was buying drinks for, apparently I didn't mention barfine fast enough, that was my fault, I am new and I didn't know. But I have no problem paying the girl 3 k if I like her, but I am not paying the bar 2 k. At Nana, Billboard, ST barfine was 700. Also I was quoted 3 k for an hour ST, is that a thing now? ST only being 1 hour? Even that seems to vary wildly. Freelancers I was with would stay for hours for ST prices. One girl I had to make sure and asked her how much I owed her because she stayed all night, I was sure I owed the LT price, but no.

[ChiGuy3385]

1 - could it be possible that this was one of the Cowboy bars owned Iranian gentleman known as "the Arab"?

2 Coyote (also known as agency girls).

3 What is known as a Foxtrot Oscar quotation. Don't want to do the deed but will lose points with the manager / mammasan if she flat refuses.

4 Trying to milk you thinking that you might be green enough to bite (excuse the mixed agricultural / angling metaphor).

Maybe the girl, well it was two girls together, didn't want to go with me, but it wasn't the girl who quoted me the 2 k price. It was at Tilac, the mamasan (I guess, I am not really experienced in these things) quoted me 2 k for each plus whatever the girl wanted to charge me. So maybe the girls told me mammasan to get me to FO, although the third girl who spoke some English did say the other two wanted to go with me, but they just didn't know good English. Also, it seems if they wanted to milk a newbie, they would have came down on the price when I turned it down initially, they did not. So I left. It was a shame because they weren't the best looking girls, but they seemed like fun.

[Steve 9696]

No problem at all. Just ask the guy at the door you want a taxi. It took 5 minutes to arrive. No detour. Straight to my preferred destination: Soi Cowboy.

Hey Dio. Interested to see your comment. Seems the past two years all posters have been trashing Cowboy as not the place to go. When I went 2 years ago, I enjoyed it but have never been to Nana or PatPong.

Can you elaborate on your reasons it's your preferred destination? Thanks.

[Member #4733]

For the distance I'm more concerned for the way back, I've read somewhere that there are hardly any taxis waiting around closing time at 5 am.

No problem at all. Just ask the guy at the door you want a taxi. It took 5 minutes to arrive. No detour. Straight to my preferred destination: Soi Cowboy.