Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

Have a few drinks and put on your beer googles and start talking to the ones on the right side as you enter. I've never paid over 2000 baht for a 2 hour service. Complete 3 hole if you desire, no condom, CIM, CIP, or on their chest. No bar fine, cheap LD's, and most are as horney as you are. The last one I took gave a great cat bath rim job.

After the first round she started crying and telling me about her problems. I stopped her in her tracts saying, I paid you for service not to listen to your problems. She got back to work on the second round and continued with satisfactory service.

The music is not that loud compared to the Go Go Bars. I hate CH because of the loud and terrible music. BG's music is acceptable and I love classic rock.

RL.

Hmm. You mean the ones sitting on the stools at your right side as you enter? And the ones gathered around the first bar area straight ahead just as you pass the ones on the stools?

Yep. Chatted up a few from those areas. Some even lept off their perch and followed me to the front of the bar in the rear of the room, closer to the toilets.

The answers were still No and No (BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM). For me, that is. Mind you, I am not much of a drinker, never get so drunk I lose normal vision and am only talking about the 6's or better from among them.

However, it has been a few months I think since the last time I met and chatted with a girl there. She said No and Yes (to the BBBJ+CIM). But it turned out she was lying. She was a Cum Dodger at crunch time. Waste of 1,000 baht, an hour of my life and a precious ejaculate. Or it might have been 1,500 baht, I have forgotten.

[Syzygies]

The music is not that loud compared to the Go Go Bars. I hate CH because of the loud and terrible music. BG's music is acceptable and I love classic rock.

RL.

Many bars have a problem with their DJ. He may be too smart doing blending, use too much volume, and also use what someone described as "car alarm" stuff. Some young girls working in these places claimed to like the car alarm stuff.

There in lies a problem. Went to Jungle Jims and an old Farang was monopolizing the music selection. He chose really heavy rock videos not very musical mostly yelling from artists mostly unknown to me maybe from the Status Quo / Black Sabath / Suzie Q era (but not that good), not the big name rock stars, and frankly it was also horrible stuff to my ear, and the girls could not at all dance to it. The musical instrumentation was pretty rudimentary and poor in times long gone by. Live performances maybe.

I think they need to choose a compromise some where in between. Something danceable but pleasant to expat ear, does not have to be all very ancient, and I think some latin stuff can be a big help. Certainly the music has to appeal to the main customer age group, but not be too awful to the young girls. Some bars have got it pretty right, and some have got it very wrong. Crazy House has always been far too loud, and some really shit music, some acceptable. Does not seem to have scared all the customers away.

After 5 star take over, it moved to purely car alarm stuff and was far worse than Crazy House. I think they partially rectified it a bit, but still woeful.

Shark as example is better these days, but I still don't see girls readily able to dance to it. Sheba used to be a bar with a great selection unfortunately closed several years now.

[Robert Long]

Are you finding that to be true if the service you desire is BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIP? Or is that not the level of GFE you generally ask for or expect?

I can't say I have gotten that level of Real Sex/True GFE service I desire at a realistic price with any Beer Garden Soi 7 lady above a 5 rating in looks out of dozens of encounters and chats during the past 5+ years.

I do find the food to be generally ok at a reasonable price but the music is often too loud for a place that is really all about chatting up the person next to you, not dancing and not sitting mute while watching girls dance on a stage. There is no reason to have it cranked up so loud two people sitting right next to each other have to raise their voices and repeat things over and over again to be heard and understood.

Have a few drinks and put on your beer googles and start talking to the ones on the right side as you enter. I've never paid over 2000 baht for a 2 hour service. Complete 3 hole if you desire, no condom, CIM, CIP, or on their chest. No bar fine, cheap LD's, and most are as horney as you are. The last one I took gave a great cat bath rim job.

After the first round she started crying and telling me about her problems. I stopped her in her tracts saying, I paid you for service not to listen to your problems. She got back to work on the second round and continued with satisfactory service.

The music is not that loud compared to the Go Go Bars. I hate CH because of the loud and terrible music. BG's music is acceptable and I love classic rock.

RL.

[Nyezhov]

My recent quick look, I thought the black girls on Soi 7 early evening were above average for Bangkok, which is not really rating them just relative, having seen huge numbers of uglies in former times. If these are the dregs, please mention where the good ones are.

Do you simply mean the standard of black girls in Bangkok is generally poor? That I agree with. Only saw one super hot one I wanted to do badly in the last 2 years, but could not go for her with too many people knowing me in that place.

I said what I said. Fugly flabby dirty looking big assed black monsters with feet like flippers and no dress sense. They are there soley to satisfy the needs of Arabs, Indians and those degenerate, desperate falangs who have been crawling around the jungles too long. Gross. For you guys that want that (an us Americans can get all the dark meat we want in the states and they are hella better looking). These ogs can be found on Soi 7 and sometimes Soi 4 down the street a ways. In my 30 ish years of coming to BKK, I have never seen a hot African chick. They only started arriving anyway after the Arab rush began in the late 80's.

The Lineup was fab last night, Friday, at Rainbow 3 and Thermae, but horrible at Mixx.

[Syzygies]

I like the crispy pork too. Quite nomnom. Unfortunately, any dessert is hit and miss. I pop my face in once a week or so and it's pretty hideous overall.

African girls are at the cart bars on Soi 7. Usually the dregs.

My recent quick look, I thought the black girls on Soi 7 early evening were above average for Bangkok, which is not really rating them just relative, having seen huge numbers of uglies in former times. If these are the dregs, please mention where the good ones are.

Do you simply mean the standard of black girls in Bangkok is generally poor? That I agree with. Only saw one super hot one I wanted to do badly in the last 2 years, but could not go for her with too many people knowing me in that place.

[BlanLocal]

Excellent Intel.

Where is this club?

Can't remember the name but I'll ask again tonight and try to get more intel. When talking to others they said its too dark, too loud and everyone is smoking weed in there. LOL.

[EihTooms]

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The best was when I saw some old skeezy farang spend like 10 minutes talking to a girl and evidently a deal couldn't be reached. He left, and then the girl took off with an Indian guy. Winner.

I also wandered around Nana and cowboy, poking my head in here and there, buying a lady drink here and there for a couple of coyotes (pretties) I bang once in a while. I probably saw a dozen other coyotes overall who I recognized as being local pretties. For you tourists and occasional visitors, don't waste your time on coyotes and definitely don't waste your time on pretties, they take a little bit of work. If you do have the time, and have the money and game, pretties are the best.

That old skeezy farang might have been me hitting up a girl for either BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM vs the next guy who is fine with covered everything, except I never spend 10 minutes on the question on the street before getting a Yes or No and moving on with or without the girl accordingly. Closer to 30 seconds usually, if that much.

If by Coyotes/Pretties in Nana Plaza you are talking about the better looking door girls or the girls (the real females) who are hired to stand outside the bars holding up signs for a bar and trying to entice the customers into the bars, I have gotten some of my fastest and easiest upfront agreements for BBFS+CIP with those girls. Not so on Soi Cowboy though. I mean, not so with the ones on Soi Cowboy who tell you to your face they will not go barfine or back to your room when asked, of which there are many on that Soi. But the so-called Coyotes/Pretties in Nana Plaza have been some of my easiest deals to close for BBFS+CIP and never for more than, say, 500 baht above the going rate.

Interestingly, girls who work as Pretties (stand-out product reps in the various malls) that I have met on the dating sites are also quite easy to close a BBFS+CIP deal with compared to others. I have met and done 4-5 of them on the dating sites over the past couple of years.

[Nyezhov]

Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.

I like the crispy pork too. Quite nomnom. Unfortunately, any dessert is hit and miss. I pop my face in once a week or so and it's pretty hideous overall.

African girls are at the cart bars on Soi 7. Usually the dregs.

Took a quick run around the area on my way home on Wed. Thermae was full of hotties. There is one girl there who I have been watching for about a year, she has an absolutely gorgeous face and sometimes silver streaks in her hair, but she has a facial expression like she sucked lemons and is possibly, no indeed probably, one of those girls who knows she is good-looking and is just going to starfish you. I don't think she's enamored of farang either. But I think the time is coming when I am going to try to do her, and if she complies, I'm going to wipe that sour expression off of her face.

The best thing about Thermae is that half the time I'm in there, I'm the only white guy. I'm in there so much some of the regular girls there say Hi to me.

The street girls on Nana were predictably hideous. I love to watch the cheap Charlie's work these girls. I mean really? Arguing over 200 baht? The best was when I saw some old skeezy farang spend like 10 minutes talking to a girl and evidently a deal couldn't be reached. He left, and then the girl took off with an Indian guy. Winner.

I also wandered around Nana and cowboy, poking my head in here and there, buying a lady drink here and there for a couple of coyotes (pretties) I bang once in a while. I probably saw a dozen other coyotes overall who I recognized as being local pretties. For you tourists and occasional visitors, don't waste your time on coyotes and definitely don't waste your time on pretties, they take a little bit of work. If you do have the time, and have the money and game, pretties are the best.

[EihTooms]

The food and the music are great. The ladies are what they are. All I have talked to and taken have been very GFE. I don't like dealing with the bullshit in gogo bars. The buy me a drink, the Hussle to pay the bar fine, and the over all bad treatment that come from the girls.

You won't find any 8's 9's or 10's in the Beer Garden, but the ones you find are not in a hurry and they will give you the service you desire at a price that is realistic.
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RL.

Are you finding that to be true if the service you desire is BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIP? Or is that not the level of GFE you generally ask for or expect?

I can't say I have gotten that level of Real Sex/True GFE service I desire at a realistic price with any Beer Garden Soi 7 lady above a 5 rating in looks out of dozens of encounters and chats during the past 5+ years.

I do find the food to be generally ok at a reasonable price but the music is often too loud for a place that is really all about chatting up the person next to you, not dancing and not sitting mute while watching girls dance on a stage. There is no reason to have it cranked up so loud two people sitting right next to each other have to raise their voices and repeat things over and over again to be heard and understood.

[Robert Long]

Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.

The food and the music are great. The ladies are what they are. All I have talked to and taken have been very GFE. I don't like dealing with the bullshit in gogo bars. The buy me a drink, the Hussle to pay the bar fine, and the over all bad treatment that come from the girls.

You won't find any 8's 9's or 10's in the Beer Garden, but the ones you find are not in a hurry and they will give you the service you desire at a price that is realistic. No bar fine, and if your a real Cheap Charlie, no LD's.

RL.

[Bouvis]

She told me where most of the black girls hang out and mentioned this African-Caribbean club down the road.

Excellent Intel.

Where is this club?

[Syzygies]

Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.

"Could be doable". Not sounding sure. So you did not do any girls? Recommending only for he food in non air con environment? Not quite following. O.K. They do serve food. That is something.

Seems like your post just teases us slightly saying so little in the "plug". I would love more detail.

I make a great Masaman Chicken curry myself with all the spices. I never order it in Bangkok, because it usually is crappy, made so quickly, with not best ingredients. Needs to stew for extended time. Good curries taste better the 2nd day as well. In fact I never order coconut cream type curries at all. Hard to get a really good one. My exception is Hor Mok which is a curry set firm by egg white to become jelly like and often in a banana leaf. Best with fish and veg filling.

My point probably is I doubt we will go there for the food unless it is really special indeed. So more specifics about trying great girls would be better, or why the food is really outstanding. If you did some really hot girl, don't be shy, you can say so. If not, then that speaks for itself. I might be willing to go have a look there if I think the girls are better than Soi 4 for example. I have no clue about Beer Garden girl price ranges too.

BTW, There is an O.K. glass booth Thai food shop on Soi 4. I ate there a few times. Ha ha! Just stirring a little. Its not very relevant to getting a girl.

[BlanLocal]

Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.

[Syzygies]

Well, I always see one or two Thai gals that are doable. But, venture farther down the street and some of the Viets just blow the Thai gals out of the water. White skin, great facial features (non-surgically enhanced for the most part), and some ripping bodies combined with that great aggressive intense Vietnamese attitude. I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.

A lot of talk about Viet girls. I grew up in a city with a lot of Viets. I used a travel agent with a stunning Viet girl once but she is really the only one I recall as super stunning. Most Viet girls in my home country were not that stunning and certainly not trying to be sexy either. Conservative. Unlike Thais and Filippinas, Viet girls did not mix greatly with the western community.

I searched for what Viet beauty is supposed to look like and include pics from web. The two single girls pics are my types. Could just as easily be Thais maybe. In the group pic, which are the best? I would probably pick top right girl (despite darker skin), even if none are really my spec, and top left as 2nd best (despite hairdo and nose job). Bottom left looks like a LB to me. I don't go for plastic looks is well known. Does Vietnam really have a lot of stunners or actually very few, based on my experience in home country?

Could easily be I have never fucked a Viet girl, or not knowingly. A buddy had a Viet GF, but she was not impressive. I have probably done girls from every SE Asian and East Asian country except for Vietnam, and also no native Balinese (not that pretty after age 16). Missed some Micronesian countries too. Ha ha. Despite no Viet girls done, I have done plenty of black girls from West Indies region and some from Africa. So clearly light skin is not driving me at all.

[Syzygies]

I guess your theory of never posting any pictures of the girls you have been with doesn't work when you are typing up reports specifically using the girl's names and location.

I prefer to see photos of the girls rather than reports of encounters with no photos that give the girl's name.

That being said, there are the guys like the one you mentioned who show the girls the photos or read the girls the reports. I've never understood those type of assholes, but they are out there. As long as you keep that in mind when you post, it's all good.

Essentially if we post photos of girls, doing anything sexual, we are outing them as hookers for the whole world to see, including Friends and family. That is the problem.

With a regular girl, she could be very pissed off by her photo appearing. If her face does not appear nor identifying marks, that helps.

Naming a girl (nickname) is not so bad as is not proof the girl is a hooker. Hundreds of girls could have the same nickname, and many girls are working under a pseudonym anyway. E. g. Other day mentioned Nira. Its not her real name, so it only seeks to advertise for guys that have a similar spec to me, to go have a look if they like her.

I do agree that I have almost never benefitted from a specific girl recommendation, always making my own choice, but others do benefit. They can at least have a look at the girl to see if she appeals.

Certainly some famous girls got tried based on their good reputation. E. g. Yok, Dao, Nestle at Tulip, Aor at Annies, many others. I even tried a highly recommended girl at S. W. Once and was disappointed. Bolt-ONS and GFE not good. Forgot name now. Learned the lesson though to stick to my own choice. Famous girls Cheer and Vodkha came recommended but I was disappointed by them, Cheer not hot enough for looks, and Vodkha pathetic non performance.

I certainly think recommended specific girls is not useful, if the poster cannot clearly state what made the girl so great and what her less good aspects are. We don't want girls oversold. Only realistic reports.

A report on a girl could influence me, if I am undecided to try her or not. Would rarely change my mind completely. I know what I like can vary greatly from another guy. There are some posters where I like their particular taste. Natty Bumpo chooses generally my type of girl for looks, with odd exception (surgeries usually). So if Natty tells me a girl is fab, I could believe. We once went in one of the Rainbows. His girl selected (already known) was by far the best girl in the bar to my eye. Lovely. Bad luck she was taken. She didn't last at that bar. Probably not suited to it. A very different style of girl. I chatted to another girl, but decided she was a not a good choice, and left empty handed. The bar improved though once a few girls took their tops off and could see they had nice real tits. Before that, the tits were an unknown.

If I see girls regularly privately, not in a specific bar or MP, then I don't name them. Some want to be very secret and may have unusual names.