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  1. #45910
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator12  [View Original Post]
    Where did you find this kind of girlfriend? Is she Thai? I have had several girlfriends in farang-land, Thailand and Philippines, but if I had as much as suggested that I would like to go to a BJ bar she would probably have killed me. He, he. Your GF seems to be very liberal or maybe you are a real treasure to her. Your story was interesting. I think you should have walked away from such poor and rude treatment, but for some reason when reading I was more focused of the fact that your GF paid you a session in a BJ bar. That was something new even for this forum.
    She's not very liberal (I've had more liberal GF's), so I guess it must be that I'm a real treasure.

    Or to perhaps paint a less rose coloured picture: I think the reason she takes me there is her way of saying sorry for some rather bad, almost unforgivable, things she did previously in our relationship, though now she says it's just to make me happy and she likes to see me happy.

  2. #45909
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Rule #1 in the Monger's Handbook: Never pay a hooker in advance. *

    Rule #2 in the Monger's Handbook: Walk away if the massage shop insists on pictures only / no lineup before the selection of a girl.**

    *The only exception to rule#1 is with oily and soapy massage parlors of solid reputation. And in this specific case the punter is not paying the girl in advance, rather he is paying the bordello in advance. There is a difference.

    ** I went to Mitu twice back in October 2018, my 1st & last time. Management insisted on pictures only, no lineup and payment BEFORE I was allowed to even see my chosen girl. Needless to say she did not look like her photos. I went ahead with the session anyway because I was interested in trying out the Mitu Nuru experience. So despite the girl not being up to my spec physically, she was at best a 5.125 * out of 10, we did have a wild romp and I admit that I enjoyed the session. However, I never went back for a 2nd helping even when the girl begged me to see her again on her Line texts to me. Looks and appearance are as important to me as performance. She was a nice girl though. 555. Too bad she was plain. Ha Ha. But I think my experience makes the point that if the shop does not / will not give their customers a real look at their girls before selection is made, they are hiding something. There is no other plausible explanation.
    Natty, love your posts.

    Unfortunately at all BJ shops I know of in Bangkok, you have to pay in advance, though it is the shop you pay as you say, not the girl. This is the first time in Thailand I could not see a real-life lineup and had to chose from photos, though in Japan recently I also had to chose from photos and believe that is the norm there.

    A bit like you perhaps, I had recently read some reviews from brothers about how good looking the girls here were, so I went ahead anyway so I could have the experience for myself at least once. At it was, the service was worse and the girls were no better looking.

  3. #45908
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    Even though I would never defend that shop after the gun related incident a few weeks ago, it seems from your report that you accepted everything that happened to you so why come and complain here instead of complaining directly in front of her? Instead you chose to do business with her and gave her the opportunity to pull that crap with other customers that would go in that sh*tty shop.
    I did not come here to complain, though I did ask the reception woman a few times why she was so angry. I came her to tell about my experience so that people can decide for themselves if they will want to visit this shop or not, based on either my own review, or the two favourable reviews that were posted by other brothers recently. Those reviews were the reason I was looking forward to visiting the shop, and while there I was willing to tolerate the obnoxious reception woman in order to at least once try the girls working there. After all, it's not the red haired beast that will be sucking my dick, though if I at the time had been sure she was the owner rather than just reception staff, I would have left there and then rather than give her business a single satang.

    Unfortunately BJ-shops are not a dime a dozen in Bangkok if you care about how the staff looks. Yes, there are others, but last time I went to BIT style and Wood bar (both places last week), I unfortunately had to walk out as there were no-one to my taste. Had the woman working at 7-heaven been great, I would have said so in my review and less principled people may have chosen to visit the shop anyway, the red haired beast maning the reception not withstanding. As it is, the woman working at 7-heaven was no better than what I see at other shops, so there's no reason at all to visit 7-heaven /7-hell as far as I see. At least at other places one will be treated with normal politeness.

  4. #45907
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    The connection between delivering whatever the customer wants and financial success in the P4P biz makes for an interesting conversation ET. From your experience there is a close correlation, personally I feel while that is part of it there is more.

    Certainly girls who do anal, rimming CIM and multiple pops on top of the standard package can command a premium but BBFS which I know you need I feel is not necessary to include in their skill set to work at the high end of the market.

    For me what's needed to make the big bucks is yes a flexible inclusive range of services but more importantly a personality to go with that. Looks, dress style, grooming, an appreciation of good food and music but above all good language skills enabling interesting and interested intelligent conversation.

    The girls who are most successful I believe are those with have repeats from a string of big spenders who value their company just as much as their blow job.
    That is quite a profile for a Thai hooker. A girl like that could be working in an upscale shopping mall, hostess in an expensive farang restaurant or as a medical clinic receptionist. And if she applied any of the usual hooker skills to her work scedule, I doubt she would be on the market long before being scooped up by an interested party passing through her place of business looking for a first or second wife.

    I get your point, but I wasn't talking about Thai hookers who "work in the high end of the market. " The girls I am talking about always having wads of 1,000 baht notes in their purse, never call me for an emergency "loan" and are or have banked enough money to start themselves a little business that no longer requires them to compete with 22 year olds in the bars or on the streets never worked in the "high end of the market. ".

    I was bringing it down to a much more basic common denominator than that, not comparing street girls with girls who target well dressed businessmen in karaoke clubs or in Mixx.

    The fact is, I know girls who would fit the profile you cited. And they still find themselves 500 baht away from disaster every week. Oh, and their blowjobs are god-awful. Lol. By contrast, I almost never get those emergency loan calls from girls just working on the street, in go-go bars, online and who probably never met a well dressed businessman but who give way above average blowjobs along with the other details I mentioned.

    I honestly can't speak to the Anal, Rimming, etc stuff since I don't indulge in those things anyway. But even acquiring a taste or skill for those activities is of a more specialized nature than the most basic offerings I have observed being plenty for P4P girls to provide in order to always have the money they need on hand without generating anybody's sympathy for their terrible plight.

  5. #45906
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Upon entering the place with my girlfriend, the first words coming from
    TFRB, shouting across the room, were "no massage here!".
    This is the first moment you should have turned back and walked away from that shop, she doesn't want to do business with you.

    My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
    voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
    TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
    explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
    TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".
    This is the second time you should have walked away from that shop. The girl is rude to your girlfriend but you still think about giving her your money.

    TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
    out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
    to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
    For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
    then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.
    Seems like you know how it works in these shops in BKK, so why did you accept that crap?

    I hoped she would change her mind when
    she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
    lose a customer, but she did not.
    Why did you think she would change her mind? The way you described it, it's pretty clear she made it clear that she didn't want you to be serviced in her shop.

    I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
    already?
    Is it one of your fetishist thing that the money must comes out of your GF's hand directly to the girls hand? She cannot stay outside, give you the money and you give it to the girl?

    She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
    I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
    we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
    the counter.
    If you understood what she said in Thai you should have reacted and told her something (even in English if you cannot say it in Thai), but instead you still decided that it's better to give her your money.

    After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
    chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
    How many times did she say your GF to get the f*ck out of her shop and you still didn't tell her to sh*t up. What kind of boyfriend are you?

    TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
    can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
    You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
    as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
    of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
    something like that to them.
    Again no reaction from you despite the fact that she talked about you as if she was talking about an animal (you're right, it's very unrespectfull in Thai).

    but I guess there's some logic there that
    escapes me at the moment.
    Thai nationals are not welcomed in these shops, but I don't know if your GF is Thai or maybe she looks like a Thai.

    A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
    "finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"

    I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
    question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
    Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
    into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
    minutes yet
    The poor girl probably tried to tell you that there is a time limit and that she was expecting you to finish soon. It seems that she sucked you for a long time, and you still talk about her as being annoying and giving you a bad service. Maybe it was you that was the annoying one.

    Will I repeat: No No No.
    Don't worry, they probably don't want to see you again also.

    Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
    ("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
    as far as manners and social grace is concerned.
    Yeah, you knew it, and your best sign of protest was to give them your money.

    I'm not trying to judge you or teach anything as I constantly make a lot of mistakes but that report was so weird.

    Even though I would never defend that shop after the gun related incident a few weeks ago, it seems from your report that you accepted everything that happened to you so why come and complain here instead of complaining directly in front of her? Instead you chose to do business with her and gave her the opportunity to pull that crap with other customers that would go in that sh*tty shop.

    It looks like the report has been written by a masochist that likes to be humiliated and reward the people that humiliated him by paying them.

    You should have told her to sh*t up before any of these things happened and moved your ass to another BJ shop. It's not as if it's the only place that can give you that service in BKK.

    I've had some arguments either directly with the girls or with the management, but this always happened during the service or after it was finished, never before I paid. I cannot understand how you can decide to reward someone that treated you like sh*t by making business with them.

    Every time I realize a seller or a business doesn't respect me I move to another place and the last think I would think about is to give them my money.

    You probably had a very high hope of getting the best BJ ever in that shop to accept such crap from a girl that has nothing to do with the service.

  6. #45905
    Rule #1 in the Monger's Handbook: Never pay a hooker in advance. *

    Rule #2 in the Monger's Handbook: Walk away if the massage shop insists on pictures only / no lineup before the selection of a girl.**

    *The only exception to rule#1 is with oily and soapy massage parlors of solid reputation. And in this specific case the punter is not paying the girl in advance, rather he is paying the bordello in advance. There is a difference.

    ** I went to Mitu twice back in October 2018, my 1st & last time. Management insisted on pictures only, no lineup and payment BEFORE I was allowed to even see my chosen girl. Needless to say she did not look like her photos. I went ahead with the session anyway because I was interested in trying out the Mitu Nuru experience. So despite the girl not being up to my spec physically, she was at best a 5.125 * out of 10, we did have a wild romp and I admit that I enjoyed the session. However, I never went back for a 2nd helping even when the girl begged me to see her again on her Line texts to me. Looks and appearance are as important to me as performance. She was a nice girl though. 555. Too bad she was plain. Ha Ha. But I think my experience makes the point that if the shop does not / will not give their customers a real look at their girls before selection is made, they are hiding something. There is no other plausible explanation.

  7. #45904
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    My GF has eventually progressed to giving great head, thank you for asking, but she also knows I like shops like this a lot. Once in a while she wants to make me extra happy and asks me if I want to visit such a shop on her treat, to which I of course smilingly say "yes, thank you".
    Where did you find this kind of girlfriend? Is she Thai? I have had several girlfriends in farang-land, Thailand and Philippines, but if I had as much as suggested that I would like to go to a BJ bar she would probably have killed me. He, he. Your GF seems to be very liberal or maybe you are a real treasure to her. Your story was interesting. I think you should have walked away from such poor and rude treatment, but for some reason when reading I was more focused of the fact that your GF paid you a session in a BJ bar. That was something new even for this forum.

  8. #45903
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    I'm confused as to why you stayed. I would have said, FY and been on my way. There is no reason to take that abuse from anyone. I will never go there now that I have read your report. And I assume that your GF does not give head?

    RL.
    Good question. The reason was the favourable reviews about the looks of the staff working here from one or two other forum brothers, so I wanted to try and see at least once since we were there already.

    My GF has eventually progressed to giving great head, thank you for asking, but she also knows I like shops like this a lot. Once in a while she wants to make me extra happy and asks me if I want to visit such a shop on her treat, to which I of course smilingly say "yes, thank you".

  9. #45902
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    I'm confused as to why you stayed. I would have said, FY and been on my way.
    Equally puzzled. There are other BJ shops. I leave many places simply because no girl in the line up appeals to me, or I cannot see the line up, even left Snow White several times with no girl selection, or could be just the staff giving me a hard time and making things difficult. I will tolerate a lot though, to get to some very special girl (not the case here).

    Some guys are really determined to try at some particular venue, but not me. It is always much more about some particular girl for me, or the lack of one.

    Taking a GF along to pay, seems a bit puzzling as well. Not sure why she needed to attend a BJ shop. I guess she was very curious to see the "talent", but the talent was extremely reticent to be seen by other Thai girls. I mean how embarrassing to work as a BJ specialist. Thais have a fear of being looked down on, by others.

    Girls that work at BJ shops, have to do a lot of BJs to make money, but they probably hope the guy pops in 10 to 15 minutes or less, that way being less work for a given amount of money than a full sex booking with someone like me for 2 hours. So very tired mouth, jaw, and shoulders, but pussy in good condition.

  10. #45901
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Visited this place on Monday the previous week and I'll say it was the
    worst experience ever. Never have I meet such a rude and insulting
    reception staff.
    Holy crap. Last time I was in BKK was a year ago, and I hit up 7 heaven more than a dozen times. I don't think I ever came across that woman. Is she a new hire, or was I just lucky? The only unpleasantness, if you even want to call it that, that I've ever experienced there was having to wait when they screwed up my booking a couple times (I always book in advance when I go places). I've "spent time with" 4 of the girls, (Dear and Mai are my favs) and they were nothing but friendly as could be with me for what little we could communicate.

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  12. #45899
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Visited this place on Monday the previous week and I'll say it was the
    worst experience ever. Never have I meet such a rude and insulting
    reception staff.

    The reception woman, a plump woman with dyed red hair who I will
    for brevity refer to as TFRB (the fat red-haired beast) from now on,
    insulted both my girlfriend, who just came in to pay for my session,
    and myself in one of the worst ways you can insult someone in Thailand,
    by referring to me when she thought I could not hear/understand as an "it"
    ("man" in Thai).

    Upon entering the place with my girlfriend, the first words coming from
    TFRB, shouting across the room, were "no massage here!". Since my gf
    and I have been to a few similar places already, we expected some mild
    surprise and possible confusion from the reception staff upon seeing my
    gf and me entering together, but we have never had a rude welcome before.

    My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
    voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
    TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
    explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
    TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".

    I said we wanted to see the girls first.

    TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
    out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
    to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
    For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
    then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.

    My gf then paid and TFRB took out an ipad where I she said I could choose
    amongst the girls. "Only three girls now". I said I wanted to see
    the girls for real, not just photos. This TFRB refused.
    Said "cannot. Choose from photo". I said if I cannot see, I would like
    to get the money back now, as I was expecting the photos to be
    photo-shopped into something not recognizable. TFRB gave the money back,
    and we turned around to walk out. I hoped she would change her mind when
    she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
    lose a customer, but she did not. Instead I changed my mind and said,
    ok, let me see photos then.

    My gf had as this point already walked outside, more than a little annoyed
    by the obnoxious behaviour of TFRB. As a reference, my gf has treated
    me to similar sessions multiple times at both Wood bar and BIT style,
    and has always been welcomed with polite, albeit surprised, behaviour
    from the women manning the reception there.

    I asked TFRB to show me the photos then, but she responded I must pay
    first. I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
    already? She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
    I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
    we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
    the counter.

    After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
    chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
    All three girls, at least as far as photos were concerned, looked decent
    enough, and so I choose a girl called Nui.

    TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
    can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
    You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
    as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
    of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
    something like that to them.

    For reference, my gf later asked me later what girl I choose and I showed
    her Nui (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/nui) from the website of 7-heaven
    which anyone can access from anywhere. The same, and more, photos are
    available on the website for anyone to see. Btw, when Nui appeared,
    she did not look much like the photo at all and I would have preferred to
    chose another girl, so as feared, the reason they do not let you see the
    lineup in real life is because the lineup in real life looks much less
    pretty than their photo-shopped pictures. They also look a lot less slim.

    Not sure what the purpose of not letting my gf see the photos on the ipad
    with me when she can see the same, and more photos, on her own phone by
    going to the public website, but I guess there's some logic there that
    escapes me at the moment.

    Anyway, the rudeness of the fat red beast aside, I was still hoping for a
    decent session with Nui, as I hoped the plump woman manning the reception
    was just an angry ***** whose poor demeanor would not necessarily reflect
    on the staff (I was wrong).

    Nui started of friendly enough, so I tried to quiz her a bit about the
    woman in the reception. Obviously TFRB could not be the fabled Som from
    "Som's haven" who's service-minded staff there have been many posts about,
    and I can't imagine that anyone with an iota of customer care in mind would let
    such a beast as the red-haired woman mind the reception, so I wondered
    if indeed the reason the red-haired beast was manning the reception was
    because she was the owner.

    I expressed my question in a more polite way to "Nui" and wondered why
    TFRB was so angry, but Nui brushed it aside. I then tried to ask if
    TFRB was the owner, to which Nui responded "no", but I'm not sure if
    she was being truthful or not.

    Anyway, not expecting to get any useful answer from Nui, we proceeded to
    the BJ.

    Nui first washed junior in the sink they have in the room, and then
    started servicing me decently well with a BBBJ for about 15 minutes,
    sucking and slurping away as you have it.

    After about 15 minutes, I stood up from the table-like thing they have you
    sit/lay down on and let Nui continue servicing me while I was standing up.

    After a few minutes standing, Nui asked me if I was finished? I was,
    for the second time at this establishment, taken a bit by surprise from
    the question. I looked at Nui a bit dumbfounded and asked her why
    she would think that? But she just asked again "you finished now?".

    My GF also had a chuckle when I told her this later, but I unfortunately
    had to disappoint Nui by telling her I had not finished yet, so she
    somewhat reluctantly continued with her job. After a few minutes of
    standing, I felt the need to relax my tired legs and lay down again,
    and let Nui continue her services while I was laying down.

    A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
    "finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"

    I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
    question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
    Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
    into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
    minutes yet.

    There was some back and forth with Ms. Nui and me about this, and in
    the end she excused herself to go "ask boss". I spent a few minutes
    contemplating, life, the universe, and everything, while waiting for
    Nui to come back.

    When Nui came back she told me "ok, 10 minutes more." Well, I let
    her service me for five minutes more and then finished in her mouth.
    She cleaned me up and I exited the shop, never to return unless someone
    can tell me the red-haired beast manning the reception is gone.

    Will I repeat: No No No. Nobody should have to be insulted in this way
    by some fat woman who seems to hate her customers, and from what I can
    tell with my very limited experience of this place, the mood of this
    beast affects the girls providing the service too.

    Anyone know if she's the owner of this place? If not, and someone knows
    the owner, feel free to let the owner know she has lost at least one
    customer who is a regular at other BJ bars due to the foul best manning
    the reception. Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
    ("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
    as far as manners and social grace is concerned.
    I'm confused as to why you stayed. I would have said, FY and been on my way. There is no reason to take that abuse from anyone. I will never go there now that I have read your report. And I assume that your GF does not give head?

    RL.

  13. #45898
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I honestly don't think it is a wild coincidence that the ones who TRIED and DID do what customers want and are willing to pay more money for, and more often, made a lot more money and found themselves living a much more pleasant life at the time and have a more promising future while the ones who mostly had a vendor cart full of lame excuses to sell for NOT doing those things made shit money overall, lived a much shittier life at the time and are now looking at a really shitty future financially for themselves and their family.
    The connection between delivering whatever the customer wants and financial success in the P4P biz makes for an interesting conversation ET. From your experience there is a close correlation, personally I feel while that is part of it there is more.

    Certainly girls who do anal, rimming CIM and multiple pops on top of the standard package can command a premium but BBFS which I know you need I feel is not necessary to include in their skill set to work at the high end of the market.

    For me what's needed to make the big bucks is yes a flexible inclusive range of services but more importantly a personality to go with that. Looks, dress style, grooming, an appreciation of good food and music but above all good language skills enabling interesting and interested intelligent conversation.

    The girls who are most successful I believe are those with have repeats from a string of big spenders who value their company just as much as their blow job.

  14. #45897
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I concur with Catire's statement on the cost...
    Thanks for response from you and Catire. I don't think I will go back but if I do I will go a bit later and maybe check out Rainbow. Going out with a 7-11 girl tonight so hopefully that goes well. Out in Bang Bo so that will keep me out of the tourist spots which is good in light of the recent bombings.

  15. #45896

    7-heaven? More like 7-hell

    Quote Originally Posted by Biffduff  [View Original Post]
    Since I don't live in Thailand (anymore), I haven't been keeping up with this forum too much. However, I can't recall seeing many (any?) reviews of this place. Website is easily searchable and very informative. If I still lived in Bkk, I might keep all this info to myself, but I'm hoping you lads keep the place in business for my yearly visits. Since I'm staying in the area, I've been three times in the past week or so.

    Setup: Walk 100 m or so up Suk soi 33 and turn right into the first side-soi. Once turned, you can't miss the sign for 7 Heaven on the left. Walk in to find a nerdy girl behind the desk with an iPad with photos of the girls that are currently available (I think you can pre-book through the website, but I haven't bothered). 1300 for one girl, 2500 for two, and some various extras for 'easing your load' onto various body parts. So, it's obviously more expensive than every other BKK BJ bar I've heard of. Here's the first benefit -- the girls are actually smoking hot. Here's the real kicker -- if you shoot within ten minutes, you get a second shot within a 40-minute (total) window (second shot can be BJ or HJ -- up to the girl).
    Visited this place on Monday the previous week and I'll say it was the
    worst experience ever. Never have I meet such a rude and insulting
    reception staff.

    The reception woman, a plump woman with dyed red hair who I will
    for brevity refer to as TFRB (the fat red-haired beast) from now on,
    insulted both my girlfriend, who just came in to pay for my session,
    and myself in one of the worst ways you can insult someone in Thailand,
    by referring to me when she thought I could not hear/understand as an "it"
    ("man" in Thai).

    Upon entering the place with my girlfriend, the first words coming from
    TFRB, shouting across the room, were "no massage here!". Since my gf
    and I have been to a few similar places already, we expected some mild
    surprise and possible confusion from the reception staff upon seeing my
    gf and me entering together, but we have never had a rude welcome before.

    My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
    voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
    TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
    explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
    TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".

    I said we wanted to see the girls first.

    TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
    out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
    to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
    For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
    then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.

    My gf then paid and TFRB took out an ipad where I she said I could choose
    amongst the girls. "Only three girls now". I said I wanted to see
    the girls for real, not just photos. This TFRB refused.
    Said "cannot. Choose from photo". I said if I cannot see, I would like
    to get the money back now, as I was expecting the photos to be
    photo-shopped into something not recognizable. TFRB gave the money back,
    and we turned around to walk out. I hoped she would change her mind when
    she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
    lose a customer, but she did not. Instead I changed my mind and said,
    ok, let me see photos then.

    My gf had as this point already walked outside, more than a little annoyed
    by the obnoxious behaviour of TFRB. As a reference, my gf has treated
    me to similar sessions multiple times at both Wood bar and BIT style,
    and has always been welcomed with polite, albeit surprised, behaviour
    from the women manning the reception there.

    I asked TFRB to show me the photos then, but she responded I must pay
    first. I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
    already? She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
    I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
    we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
    the counter.

    After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
    chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
    All three girls, at least as far as photos were concerned, looked decent
    enough, and so I choose a girl called Nui.

    TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
    can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
    You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
    as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
    of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
    something like that to them.

    For reference, my gf later asked me later what girl I choose and I showed
    her Nui (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/nui) from the website of 7-heaven
    which anyone can access from anywhere. The same, and more, photos are
    available on the website for anyone to see. Btw, when Nui appeared,
    she did not look much like the photo at all and I would have preferred to
    chose another girl, so as feared, the reason they do not let you see the
    lineup in real life is because the lineup in real life looks much less
    pretty than their photo-shopped pictures. They also look a lot less slim.

    Not sure what the purpose of not letting my gf see the photos on the ipad
    with me when she can see the same, and more photos, on her own phone by
    going to the public website, but I guess there's some logic there that
    escapes me at the moment.

    Anyway, the rudeness of the fat red beast aside, I was still hoping for a
    decent session with Nui, as I hoped the plump woman manning the reception
    was just an angry ***** whose poor demeanor would not necessarily reflect
    on the staff (I was wrong).

    Nui started of friendly enough, so I tried to quiz her a bit about the
    woman in the reception. Obviously TFRB could not be the fabled Som from
    "Som's haven" who's service-minded staff there have been many posts about,
    and I can't imagine that anyone with an iota of customer care in mind would let
    such a beast as the red-haired woman mind the reception, so I wondered
    if indeed the reason the red-haired beast was manning the reception was
    because she was the owner.

    I expressed my question in a more polite way to "Nui" and wondered why
    TFRB was so angry, but Nui brushed it aside. I then tried to ask if
    TFRB was the owner, to which Nui responded "no", but I'm not sure if
    she was being truthful or not.

    Anyway, not expecting to get any useful answer from Nui, we proceeded to
    the BJ.

    Nui first washed junior in the sink they have in the room, and then
    started servicing me decently well with a BBBJ for about 15 minutes,
    sucking and slurping away as you have it.

    After about 15 minutes, I stood up from the table-like thing they have you
    sit/lay down on and let Nui continue servicing me while I was standing up.

    After a few minutes standing, Nui asked me if I was finished? I was,
    for the second time at this establishment, taken a bit by surprise from
    the question. I looked at Nui a bit dumbfounded and asked her why
    she would think that? But she just asked again "you finished now?".

    My GF also had a chuckle when I told her this later, but I unfortunately
    had to disappoint Nui by telling her I had not finished yet, so she
    somewhat reluctantly continued with her job. After a few minutes of
    standing, I felt the need to relax my tired legs and lay down again,
    and let Nui continue her services while I was laying down.

    A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
    "finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"

    I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
    question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
    Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
    into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
    minutes yet.

    There was some back and forth with Ms. Nui and me about this, and in
    the end she excused herself to go "ask boss". I spent a few minutes
    contemplating, life, the universe, and everything, while waiting for
    Nui to come back.

    When Nui came back she told me "ok, 10 minutes more." Well, I let
    her service me for five minutes more and then finished in her mouth.
    She cleaned me up and I exited the shop, never to return unless someone
    can tell me the red-haired beast manning the reception is gone.

    Will I repeat: No No No. Nobody should have to be insulted in this way
    by some fat woman who seems to hate her customers, and from what I can
    tell with my very limited experience of this place, the mood of this
    beast affects the girls providing the service too.

    Anyone know if she's the owner of this place? If not, and someone knows
    the owner, feel free to let the owner know she has lost at least one
    customer who is a regular at other BJ bars due to the foul best manning
    the reception. Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
    ("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
    as far as manners and social grace is concerned.
    Last edited by Werqweq; 08-02-19 at 11:38. Reason: formatting

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