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08-03-19 18:40 #45910
Posts: 270Originally Posted by Aviator12 [View Original Post]
Or to perhaps paint a less rose coloured picture: I think the reason she takes me there is her way of saying sorry for some rather bad, almost unforgivable, things she did previously in our relationship, though now she says it's just to make me happy and she likes to see me happy.
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08-03-19 18:20 #45909
Posts: 270Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
Unfortunately at all BJ shops I know of in Bangkok, you have to pay in advance, though it is the shop you pay as you say, not the girl. This is the first time in Thailand I could not see a real-life lineup and had to chose from photos, though in Japan recently I also had to chose from photos and believe that is the norm there.
A bit like you perhaps, I had recently read some reviews from brothers about how good looking the girls here were, so I went ahead anyway so I could have the experience for myself at least once. At it was, the service was worse and the girls were no better looking.
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08-03-19 18:16 #45908
Posts: 270Originally Posted by Paolo99 [View Original Post]
Unfortunately BJ-shops are not a dime a dozen in Bangkok if you care about how the staff looks. Yes, there are others, but last time I went to BIT style and Wood bar (both places last week), I unfortunately had to walk out as there were no-one to my taste. Had the woman working at 7-heaven been great, I would have said so in my review and less principled people may have chosen to visit the shop anyway, the red haired beast maning the reception not withstanding. As it is, the woman working at 7-heaven was no better than what I see at other shops, so there's no reason at all to visit 7-heaven /7-hell as far as I see. At least at other places one will be treated with normal politeness.
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08-03-19 17:29 #45907
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
I get your point, but I wasn't talking about Thai hookers who "work in the high end of the market. " The girls I am talking about always having wads of 1,000 baht notes in their purse, never call me for an emergency "loan" and are or have banked enough money to start themselves a little business that no longer requires them to compete with 22 year olds in the bars or on the streets never worked in the "high end of the market. ".
I was bringing it down to a much more basic common denominator than that, not comparing street girls with girls who target well dressed businessmen in karaoke clubs or in Mixx.
The fact is, I know girls who would fit the profile you cited. And they still find themselves 500 baht away from disaster every week. Oh, and their blowjobs are god-awful. Lol. By contrast, I almost never get those emergency loan calls from girls just working on the street, in go-go bars, online and who probably never met a well dressed businessman but who give way above average blowjobs along with the other details I mentioned.
I honestly can't speak to the Anal, Rimming, etc stuff since I don't indulge in those things anyway. But even acquiring a taste or skill for those activities is of a more specialized nature than the most basic offerings I have observed being plenty for P4P girls to provide in order to always have the money they need on hand without generating anybody's sympathy for their terrible plight.
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08-03-19 15:47 #45906
Posts: 926Originally Posted by Werqweq [View Original Post]
My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".
TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.
I hoped she would change her mind when
she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
lose a customer, but she did not.
I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
already?
She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
the counter.
After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
something like that to them.
but I guess there's some logic there that
escapes me at the moment.
A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
"finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"
I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
minutes yet
Will I repeat: No No No.
Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
as far as manners and social grace is concerned.
I'm not trying to judge you or teach anything as I constantly make a lot of mistakes but that report was so weird.
Even though I would never defend that shop after the gun related incident a few weeks ago, it seems from your report that you accepted everything that happened to you so why come and complain here instead of complaining directly in front of her? Instead you chose to do business with her and gave her the opportunity to pull that crap with other customers that would go in that sh*tty shop.
It looks like the report has been written by a masochist that likes to be humiliated and reward the people that humiliated him by paying them.
You should have told her to sh*t up before any of these things happened and moved your ass to another BJ shop. It's not as if it's the only place that can give you that service in BKK.
I've had some arguments either directly with the girls or with the management, but this always happened during the service or after it was finished, never before I paid. I cannot understand how you can decide to reward someone that treated you like sh*t by making business with them.
Every time I realize a seller or a business doesn't respect me I move to another place and the last think I would think about is to give them my money.
You probably had a very high hope of getting the best BJ ever in that shop to accept such crap from a girl that has nothing to do with the service.
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08-03-19 13:09 #45905
Posts: 3040Rule #1 in the Monger's Handbook: Never pay a hooker in advance. *
Rule #2 in the Monger's Handbook: Walk away if the massage shop insists on pictures only / no lineup before the selection of a girl.**
*The only exception to rule#1 is with oily and soapy massage parlors of solid reputation. And in this specific case the punter is not paying the girl in advance, rather he is paying the bordello in advance. There is a difference.
** I went to Mitu twice back in October 2018, my 1st & last time. Management insisted on pictures only, no lineup and payment BEFORE I was allowed to even see my chosen girl. Needless to say she did not look like her photos. I went ahead with the session anyway because I was interested in trying out the Mitu Nuru experience. So despite the girl not being up to my spec physically, she was at best a 5.125 * out of 10, we did have a wild romp and I admit that I enjoyed the session. However, I never went back for a 2nd helping even when the girl begged me to see her again on her Line texts to me. Looks and appearance are as important to me as performance. She was a nice girl though. 555. Too bad she was plain. Ha Ha. But I think my experience makes the point that if the shop does not / will not give their customers a real look at their girls before selection is made, they are hiding something. There is no other plausible explanation.
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08-03-19 12:50 #45904
Posts: 170Originally Posted by Werqweq [View Original Post]
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08-03-19 06:53 #45903
Posts: 270Originally Posted by RobertLong [View Original Post]
My GF has eventually progressed to giving great head, thank you for asking, but she also knows I like shops like this a lot. Once in a while she wants to make me extra happy and asks me if I want to visit such a shop on her treat, to which I of course smilingly say "yes, thank you".
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08-03-19 02:41 #45902
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by RobertLong [View Original Post]
Some guys are really determined to try at some particular venue, but not me. It is always much more about some particular girl for me, or the lack of one.
Taking a GF along to pay, seems a bit puzzling as well. Not sure why she needed to attend a BJ shop. I guess she was very curious to see the "talent", but the talent was extremely reticent to be seen by other Thai girls. I mean how embarrassing to work as a BJ specialist. Thais have a fear of being looked down on, by others.
Girls that work at BJ shops, have to do a lot of BJs to make money, but they probably hope the guy pops in 10 to 15 minutes or less, that way being less work for a given amount of money than a full sex booking with someone like me for 2 hours. So very tired mouth, jaw, and shoulders, but pussy in good condition.
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08-03-19 02:41 #45901
Posts: 28Originally Posted by Werqweq [View Original Post]
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08-02-19 23:52 #45900
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08-02-19 21:47 #45899
Posts: 641Originally Posted by Werqweq [View Original Post]
RL.
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08-02-19 14:04 #45898
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Certainly girls who do anal, rimming CIM and multiple pops on top of the standard package can command a premium but BBFS which I know you need I feel is not necessary to include in their skill set to work at the high end of the market.
For me what's needed to make the big bucks is yes a flexible inclusive range of services but more importantly a personality to go with that. Looks, dress style, grooming, an appreciation of good food and music but above all good language skills enabling interesting and interested intelligent conversation.
The girls who are most successful I believe are those with have repeats from a string of big spenders who value their company just as much as their blow job.
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08-02-19 12:07 #45897
Posts: 81Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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08-02-19 11:37 #45896
Posts: 2707-heaven? More like 7-hell
Originally Posted by Biffduff [View Original Post]
worst experience ever. Never have I meet such a rude and insulting
reception staff.
The reception woman, a plump woman with dyed red hair who I will
for brevity refer to as TFRB (the fat red-haired beast) from now on,
insulted both my girlfriend, who just came in to pay for my session,
and myself in one of the worst ways you can insult someone in Thailand,
by referring to me when she thought I could not hear/understand as an "it"
("man" in Thai).
Upon entering the place with my girlfriend, the first words coming from
TFRB, shouting across the room, were "no massage here!". Since my gf
and I have been to a few similar places already, we expected some mild
surprise and possible confusion from the reception staff upon seeing my
gf and me entering together, but we have never had a rude welcome before.
My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".
I said we wanted to see the girls first.
TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.
My gf then paid and TFRB took out an ipad where I she said I could choose
amongst the girls. "Only three girls now". I said I wanted to see
the girls for real, not just photos. This TFRB refused.
Said "cannot. Choose from photo". I said if I cannot see, I would like
to get the money back now, as I was expecting the photos to be
photo-shopped into something not recognizable. TFRB gave the money back,
and we turned around to walk out. I hoped she would change her mind when
she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
lose a customer, but she did not. Instead I changed my mind and said,
ok, let me see photos then.
My gf had as this point already walked outside, more than a little annoyed
by the obnoxious behaviour of TFRB. As a reference, my gf has treated
me to similar sessions multiple times at both Wood bar and BIT style,
and has always been welcomed with polite, albeit surprised, behaviour
from the women manning the reception there.
I asked TFRB to show me the photos then, but she responded I must pay
first. I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
already? She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
the counter.
After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
All three girls, at least as far as photos were concerned, looked decent
enough, and so I choose a girl called Nui.
TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
something like that to them.
For reference, my gf later asked me later what girl I choose and I showed
her Nui (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/nui) from the website of 7-heaven
which anyone can access from anywhere. The same, and more, photos are
available on the website for anyone to see. Btw, when Nui appeared,
she did not look much like the photo at all and I would have preferred to
chose another girl, so as feared, the reason they do not let you see the
lineup in real life is because the lineup in real life looks much less
pretty than their photo-shopped pictures. They also look a lot less slim.
Not sure what the purpose of not letting my gf see the photos on the ipad
with me when she can see the same, and more photos, on her own phone by
going to the public website, but I guess there's some logic there that
escapes me at the moment.
Anyway, the rudeness of the fat red beast aside, I was still hoping for a
decent session with Nui, as I hoped the plump woman manning the reception
was just an angry ***** whose poor demeanor would not necessarily reflect
on the staff (I was wrong).
Nui started of friendly enough, so I tried to quiz her a bit about the
woman in the reception. Obviously TFRB could not be the fabled Som from
"Som's haven" who's service-minded staff there have been many posts about,
and I can't imagine that anyone with an iota of customer care in mind would let
such a beast as the red-haired woman mind the reception, so I wondered
if indeed the reason the red-haired beast was manning the reception was
because she was the owner.
I expressed my question in a more polite way to "Nui" and wondered why
TFRB was so angry, but Nui brushed it aside. I then tried to ask if
TFRB was the owner, to which Nui responded "no", but I'm not sure if
she was being truthful or not.
Anyway, not expecting to get any useful answer from Nui, we proceeded to
the BJ.
Nui first washed junior in the sink they have in the room, and then
started servicing me decently well with a BBBJ for about 15 minutes,
sucking and slurping away as you have it.
After about 15 minutes, I stood up from the table-like thing they have you
sit/lay down on and let Nui continue servicing me while I was standing up.
After a few minutes standing, Nui asked me if I was finished? I was,
for the second time at this establishment, taken a bit by surprise from
the question. I looked at Nui a bit dumbfounded and asked her why
she would think that? But she just asked again "you finished now?".
My GF also had a chuckle when I told her this later, but I unfortunately
had to disappoint Nui by telling her I had not finished yet, so she
somewhat reluctantly continued with her job. After a few minutes of
standing, I felt the need to relax my tired legs and lay down again,
and let Nui continue her services while I was laying down.
A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
"finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"
I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
minutes yet.
There was some back and forth with Ms. Nui and me about this, and in
the end she excused herself to go "ask boss". I spent a few minutes
contemplating, life, the universe, and everything, while waiting for
Nui to come back.
When Nui came back she told me "ok, 10 minutes more." Well, I let
her service me for five minutes more and then finished in her mouth.
She cleaned me up and I exited the shop, never to return unless someone
can tell me the red-haired beast manning the reception is gone.
Will I repeat: No No No. Nobody should have to be insulted in this way
by some fat woman who seems to hate her customers, and from what I can
tell with my very limited experience of this place, the mood of this
beast affects the girls providing the service too.
Anyone know if she's the owner of this place? If not, and someone knows
the owner, feel free to let the owner know she has lost at least one
customer who is a regular at other BJ bars due to the foul best manning
the reception. Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
as far as manners and social grace is concerned.Last edited by Werqweq; 08-02-19 at 11:38. Reason: formatting