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  1. #45626
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea about CIP as I prefer to "come on" not "come in. " And you are correct, it is not discussed up front, but even though I am pretty much condom 100% for intercourse both vag and a+, I always like to see if the gal is up for BBFS. And I would say that at least 75% of the gals in the PSE shops are a go. And there is no additional fee involved. In fact, I have never tipped a Baht in the PSE shops, have been a customer for well over a decade, and get great service, of course depending on the gal. You can also read here as many dudes do post about the gals at the shops that do BBFS.
    If your assessment is that 75% of the girls working in the PSE shops are a go for BBFS+CIP, presumably by their say so after you are already in the room with them, would you also say that same 75% of the girls working in those PSE shops qualify as above or well above average looking P4P Thai girls as was another premise in my post?

    Also, I read about a lot of repeats with a rare few girls in those shops. Not just you, but others. I think there are maybe 4 PSE Massage Shop girls in all of Bangkok whose names are mentioned over and over again that have been done and repeated so often and for so many years by some here, they know their work and vacation schedule by heart, the names and birthdays of their pet dogs and cats, their mother's maiden name and their grandchildren's shirt and shoe sizes. Can anyone even recall if one of those girls said Yes upfront to BBFS+CIP before booking her for the first time back in the day? And, of course, that might have been 10-15 years ago when everything was easier and cheaper in Bangkok, including BBFS+CIP.

  2. #45625
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Didn't even know King's Corner had girls there. All I ever saw were ladyboys outside sp never popped in.
    BB I assume you are referring to my report where I mentioned KC. The KC mentioned was King's Castle. Not King's Castle 1 or King's Castle 2. I believe there is a bar that's just called King's Castle. I may have screwed that up. Not sure.

  3. #45624
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I have all but given up on the BTS. It's always way too crowded. I take taxis or motor cycle taxis almost everywhere now. Try taking a motor cycle taxi from Ratchadamri to Nana (Soi 4) or from Sukhumvit Soi 24 to the Thai Cultural Centre in rush hour. I guarantee you it will take years off your life. LOL.
    Why don't you rent a motorbike and drive yourself? I put about 1 k kilos a month on my bike driving around BKK. BTW, Grab Bike is great in BKK.

  4. #45623
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    By "let you skin it" (allow you to engage in BBFS+CIP?), does that mean your experience in that regard is mostly the result of booking a new girl and time and then "going with the flow in the room" to a degree where the topic of BBFS+CIP comes up and she agrees to it with or without an additional fee or that it just evolves that way naturally? If so, then that isn't really what I was talking about. I was talking about getting an upfront agreement to provide BBFS+CIP from a girl you've never met or taken before and before booking the time with her. That is a very different challenge and, for some of us, a very different requirement than merely booking the girl, the time and then "going with the flow in the room" to find out then and only then if she will or won't allow BBFS+CIP.
    I have no idea about CIP as I prefer to "come on" not "come in. " And you are correct, it is not discussed up front, but even though I am pretty much condom 100% for intercourse both vag and a+, I always like to see if the gal is up for BBFS. And I would say that at least 75% of the gals in the PSE shops are a go. And there is no additional fee involved. In fact, I have never tipped a Baht in the PSE shops, have been a customer for well over a decade, and get great service, of course depending on the gal. You can also read here as many dudes do post about the gals at the shops that do BBFS.

  5. #45622
    Quote Originally Posted by Sid64  [View Original Post]
    Next year Makha Bucha Day dates are:

    9 Feb Sun Makha Bucha Day.

    10 Feb Mon Makha Bucha Holiday.

    I have been in Phuket and remember GoGo bars closing but based on those dates when will the bars actually close?

    Would it be from 11:59 pm on Saturday night until 11:59 pm on Sunday night or until 11:59 pm Monday night?

    It really sucks as I will be in Bangkok right over these days.
    I was in Bangkok this year during Makha Bucha. From a practical standpoint (based on the above) I would plan on the following:

    Bars will open a little early on Saturday night, and close at midnight.

    Bars will be closed all day and night on Sunday.

    Back to normal on Monday.

    SL.

  6. #45621
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I like to stay in this neck of the woods (Chit Lom) in the early stages of my trip.....I like the Intercontinental best (Mixx is in the basement),.... I will also recommend the Marriott Courtyard which has very nice rooms and a good pool for around 2800 baht / night or less.

    The current Patpong Go Go's that I like are Kings Castle 1, Kings Castle 2, Pink Panther, and Badabing. ......I enjoyed reading EihTooms's recent report. It was interesting that he found his girl in King's Corner (Patpong 1) which is a mixed Go Go. .....Another Patpong bar that people can't seem to agree on is Black Pagoda. I am not a big fan because I don't find many of their girls all that attractive, but Black Pagoda girls are very friendly in a totally laid back way
    I prefer Chit Lom over the other parts of Sukhumvit as well but I'm too cheap to stay there. Will definitely look into the Marriot Courtyard next time. I have enjoyed Marriot Courtyard's elsewhere in the world. The Intercontinental Bangkok is very nice. I get to stay there when my buddies come on business trips.

    Absolutely agree on your assessment of the best Patpong gogo bars. Black Pagoda ranked up with the other 2 years ago but the last few times I have been there only led to a disappointing walk back down the cat ur1ne smelling stairs.

    Didn't even know King's Corner had girls there. All I ever saw were ladyboys outside sp never popped in.

    I prefer Patpong. Girls are friendlier and gems can be found there. It's like comparing LK Metro to Walking Street. LK Metro just more laid back.

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    I was there a couple of years ago with Banana Boy (before KC1 moved to their new diggs) and I had a blast. I was pretty impressed with the quality of girls especially at KC1 and Pink Panther and also by a couple of random girls working the bars. I hope I can repeat my luck on this upcoming visit.
    Unfortunately not nearly as good as it was 2 years ago. I remember that beer bar girl. She was hot. Just a weird vibe in her bar with all the old grannies / fatties and just her.

    For guys who are adventurous like I am and have time in Patpong, check out some of those bars upstairs from Star of Light. Yes the girls are usually older and only 3 or 4 girls per bar but they're free to check out. Found an amazing young Vietnamese girl there last year. Clearly working in a secluded bar because she is not allowed to work in Thailand.

  7. #45620
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Interesting, as I have found most all gals at the PSE shops will let you skin it.
    By "let you skin it" (allow you to engage in BBFS+CIP?), does that mean your experience in that regard is mostly the result of booking a new girl and time and then "going with the flow in the room" to a degree where the topic of BBFS+CIP comes up and she agrees to it with or without an additional fee or that it just evolves that way naturally? If so, then that isn't really what I was talking about. I was talking about getting an upfront agreement to provide BBFS+CIP from a girl you've never met or taken before and before booking the time with her. That is a very different challenge and, for some of us, a very different requirement than merely booking the girl, the time and then "going with the flow in the room" to find out then and only then if she will or won't allow BBFS+CIP.

  8. #45619

    MRT Senior Discount

    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    I was in Patpong last night. I was only able to visit three go gos there. Pink Panther had a very solid selection. I also visited KC (not KC 1 or KC 2). I almost pulled the trigger with a 30 yr old blonde that looked 25 yrs old. Asking price was B800 barfine and B3000 for the girl. I almost went with her but changed my mind at the last minute. The problem for me is that there were ladyboys mixed in with the dancers there. I hate mixed bars. Walked into KC1 at 10 pm on this Sunday night. The girls looked good but there were no seats available so I left. Uncle V has me convinced that staying in the Patpong area would be a nice change of pace. I need to find a nice hotel near there. Now that I'm in my late 60's, I try to stay close to the action. This heat just kills me.
    I don't remember anyone mentioning this but seniors get a discount on the MRT. I can go from Sukhumvit to Silom for 9 thb. Or Sukhumvit to China Town for 14 thb. BTS has no senior discount and is way to crowded.

    You just mention senior and the station to the chit seller and she will give you the discount. I think it is 55 and older. Always get a seat if I want it but I usually give it up to older or pregnant ladies.

    And to agree with many comments about Soi Cowboy. It has gotten very bad. They must be getting the dancers from Soi 4 Nana wall. Lighthouse girls were so bad I went outside to finish my beer. And many fatties working as coyotes.

    RL.

  9. #45618
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    Uncle V has me convinced that staying in the Patpong area would be a nice change of pace. I need to find a nice hotel near there. Now that I'm in my late 60's, I try to stay close to the action. This heat just kills me.
    For some time now I have been proportioning, in the early stages of my visits, a small percent of my total BKK time to staying in the Chit Lom - Ratchadamri neighborhood for exactly your stated purpose ie to gain easy access to Patpong. A metered taxi will cost around 65 baht back to my hotel with a girl in tow. This area also provides easy access to Nana which is my current favorite Go-Go pick-up scene. Sure, Nana is sleazy, but it feels like home. 555. And more importantly, I have lately found my favorite best girls there. Patpong is my 2nd favorite Go-Go pick-up scene. And Soi Cowboy, unfortunately, lags far behind. Anyway, I like to stay in this neck of the woods (Chit Lom) in the early stages of my trip because once I establish friendly relations with a couple of Patpong working girls, it is not a problem, as if it ever was, to take them in a taxi back to wherever I am staying on Sukhumvit like soi 19 or soi 24 for example. And as an extra bonus, I have very close proximity to Spasso and Mixx, both interesting and sometimes rewarding 5-star hotel FL pick up bars.

    So, there are a number of great hotels in the area. High budget: I like the Intercontinental best (Mixx is in the basement), then the Grand Hyatt (Spasso is in the basement & the Grand has a great pool). High High budget: the new Park Hyatt which is currently beyond my allowable expenses, but it looks really good. If money were no object I would stay here. And lastly, I will also recommend the Marriott Courtyard which has very nice rooms and a good pool for around 2800 baht / night or less.

    The current Patpong Go Go's that I like are Kings Castle 1, Kings Castle 2, Pink Panther, and Badabing. Additionally, I have heard good things about the newly opened Glamour Go Go which is owned by the Badabing group. I plan to check them out on my next visit. I enjoyed reading EihTooms's recent report. It was interesting that he found his girl in King's Corner (Patpong 1) which is a mixed Go Go. I have been in there a couple of times. I prefer Kings Castle 1 and Pink by a wide margin, but hey, that's is just my opinion and on any given night YMMV. A couple of years back I barfined a Kings Castle 2 girl and she told me she originally worked in the Kings Corner (Patpong 1 bar), but left. I asked her why and she said on account of the ladyboys and I understood what she meant. LB's can appear to be somewhat domineering to a young girl fresh off the bus. Another Patpong bar that people can't seem to agree on is Black Pagoda. I am not a big fan because I don't find many of their girls all that attractive, but Black Pagoda girls are very friendly in a totally laid back way, so I guess some patrons like to go there just to meet up, have a drink, relax and whatever. When I was last there the AC was not working properly and temp inside the bar was uncomfortably warm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    I try to stay close to the action. This heat just kills me.
    I have all but given up on the BTS. It's always way too crowded. I take taxis or motor cycle taxis almost everywhere now. Try taking a motor cycle taxi from Ratchadamri to Nana (Soi 4) or from Sukhumvit Soi 24 to the Thai Cultural Centre in rush hour. I guarantee you it will take years off your life. LOL.

  10. #45617
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    I need to find a nice hotel near there. Now that I'm in my late 60's, I try to stay close to the action. This heat just kills me.
    I stayed at the Furam Xclusive Sathorn 2 years ago and I enjoyed the place. It's a 10 minutes walk from Patpong but the location was nice, with lot of small authentic Thai shops around.

    The staff was very professional, guest were allowed, nice pool, and a steam room. The room was not the best but the equipment was good (except for the old style TV) and the size of the room was good also. It was 1400 baht when I took it, at that price it was worth it.

  11. #45616

    Pse

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Good to know. When I was in Medellin, some guy asked me where he could find a porn star experience. I had no clue what he was talking about. This clarifies it. Now that I know, I don't know why he was asking. Most of the girls I was with in Medellin gave me a PSE.

    I've never been to those places you mentioned. However, I have had plenty of girls in Bangkok give me the PSE in my room.
    I would say pse also includes swallow or at least CIP.

  12. #45615

    Patpong

    I was in Patpong last night. I was only able to visit three go gos there. Pink Panther had a very solid selection. I also visited KC (not KC 1 or KC 2). I almost pulled the trigger with a 30 yr old blonde that looked 25 yrs old. Asking price was B800 barfine and B3000 for the girl. I almost went with her but changed my mind at the last minute. The problem for me is that there were ladyboys mixed in with the dancers there. I hate mixed bars. Walked into KC1 at 10 pm on this Sunday night. The girls looked good but there were no seats available so I left. Uncle V has me convinced that staying in the Patpong area would be a nice change of pace. I need to find a nice hotel near there. Now that I'm in my late 60's, I try to stay close to the action. This heat just kills me.

  13. #45614
    Quote Originally Posted by KBfjm  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for the helpful report EihTooms!
    Yes thanks indeed! It's is good to get some info from Patpong.

    I plan on staying in the area in a few weeks skipping the Suk and the squalor there is kind of depressing. Though I probably will make a couple of trips out there to check things out.

    I was there a couple of years ago with Banana Boy (before KC1 moved to their new diggs) and I had a blast. I was pretty impressed with the quality of girls especially at KC1 and Pink Panther and also by a couple of random girls working the bars. I hope I can repeat my luck on this upcoming visit.

    But, sadly it sounds form your report that, as far as the negatives go (older and uglier girls, too many tats) Patpong is really not all that different from the lower scale gogos in Nana, SC or Patts.

    Maybe I will try my luck with the Jap places?

  14. #45613
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Shops like Tulip, Snow White, and Cherry that provide a "porn star experience. " Multiple pops, BBBJCIM, rimming, and with a large percentage of gals A+ all on the menu.
    Good to know. When I was in Medellin, some guy asked me where he could find a porn star experience. I had no clue what he was talking about. This clarifies it. Now that I know, I don't know why he was asking. Most of the girls I was with in Medellin gave me a PSE.

    I've never been to those places you mentioned. However, I have had plenty of girls in Bangkok give me the PSE in my room.

  15. #45612
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    What is a PSE shop?
    Shops like Tulip, Snow White, and Cherry that provide a "porn star experience. " Multiple pops, BBBJCIM, rimming, and with a large percentage of gals A+ all on the menu.

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