Bangkok Reports

[Pita123]

But for some weird reason I am into Hip Hop! Combined with lots of sexy girls some nights this is one of the best nightclubs in Bangkok for me. Compared to Therma it is heaven!

I love hip hop. But 2 AM I want to be in bed. Really hope reincarnation is real. I need to reincarnate into a younger body!

[Pita123]

I already posted a lot more detail in previous reports.

Found them. Thanks. As our tastes are similar, I'll need to check it out.

[Goatscrot]

I saw a girl staring at me and smiling in thermae sitting on the island in the middle, in either Dec? Jan or Feb. I was with mr tooms, he noticed her smiling at me, I wasn't really interested.

A few days later I ran into her working on soi 4, I didn't know it was her but she remembered me, she was happy to see me, gave me her line and offered 1000 b session, I said maybe tomorrow? LOL.

I was still not interested, but I'm guessing her price would have been different in thermae? She was standing by the huge glass store front tattoo shop, I forget the name of it?

Isn't this called dynamic-pricing LMAO.

Venue specific pricing has always been part of the Bkk FL scene.

[Crocodilexp]

A few days later I ran into her working on soi 4, I didn't know it was her but she remembered me, she was happy to see me, gave me her line and offered 1000 b session, I said maybe tomorrow? LOL.

I was still not interested, but I'm guessing her price would have been different in thermae?

Yes, it would have. It's common for girls to have a different price in different venues.

In Pattaya it's especially common for the same girl to ask 700 on Beach Road and substantially more on Walking Street or in the discos.

[Aviator12]

I already posted a lot more detail in previous reports. Forget about Penny Black. Some sort of karaoke maybe.

Penny Black is actually quite a cool place. It is a nightclub focusing only on Hip-Hop music. So if you are into this spesific music genre it is actually one of the best in Bangkok. The entry downstairs to Penny Black has a bar and also now has outside seating. Nice place for people watching but very small. First floor is a newly remade pool bar. Second floor is a Karaoke bar. Third floor is the nightclub. Above is a short time hotel, but I never tried it. All venues has been updated recently with very nice decor in urban style. So all in all this complex is a very cool part of Soi Cowboy, but it is hard to see from the outside. All venues are owned by the same owner that operate Long Gun and Cactus. The nightclub gets going from 2-3 am and is popular by go-go girls after their work. Some nights can be really good here and the place is packed. I personally can not stand most of the music in go-go bars. I like classic rock from the 60- and 70's. But for some weird reason I am into Hip Hop! Combined with lots of sexy girls some nights this is one of the best nightclubs in Bangkok for me. Compared to Therma it is heaven!

[Turgid]

............ During our discussion in the booth, she said she was giving me a discount (LOL. Who knows) ............

Reminds me of a place I mongered in many years ago (can't recall where) where I would enter the establishment and the girls would come up to me saying "promotion, promotion" and would state the price which they claim was a reduced price. It was their sales pitch.

[Syzygies]

Saw that girl in Thermae again last night. Aside from her and a handful of others, have to say Thermae's line up about 10:30 PM was one of the worst in terms of looks alone I have ever seen. I used to doubt or think it was an overstatement when guys said they could not find anything worth taking from Thermae on a given night. But last night would have been one of those nights for me. .

I left Thermae many times empty handed. I would do the circuit and mentally note maybe 2 or 3 girls, but then would fail to get any of them. They would show zero interest or be taken by a Japanese guy very quick and lively. Clearly I was not picking really average looking girls. When I did get a girl, possibly more average looking, they proved unsatisfactory one way or another: surgeries, restrictions, dick scared, or disappointing body (hidden by clothing). Poor luck, or just a guy in the wrong place? Need to improve my selection technique clearly. "Girly can you just strip off for a moment first, give me a big tongue kiss and assure me you are desperate for extended time Farang cock?"

Maybe Thermae is a place where we need to see which girls want us the most, and then decide if they are doable or not. Not really my style. Plenty of chubby or average girls giving me the look, but I did not bite.

Clearly I am too slow to choose. Other guys work fast.

[Syzygies]

I'll do some searching on what Kazy and Kozy are. Guessing the replace the restaurant on the corner of Cowboy? Maybe work a visit this week.

But I've only used Penny Black as a ST hotel. What is upstairs?

Kazy Kozy has opened in place of Old Dutch. Kozy upstairs will not open until Kazy has too many customers. Seems it is really the same business.

If you are a guy that used to like Crazy House a few years back, then I think Kazy can work for you. It is already superior to CH for me, by the standard and types of the girls, more natural girls less surgeries.

I don't like the time wasted by running shows though. Kazy is not as good as CH when it first opened.

I already posted a lot more detail in previous reports. Forget about Penny Black. Some sort of karaoke maybe.

[Pita123]

So were you at Kazy or at Kozy? Kazy is the downstairs bar and Kozy is the upstairs bar. Different management apparently from what I was told by the staff, and possibly totally different styles. Kozy upstairs was reported to try to attract Asian customers like upstairs at Penny Black.

I'll do some searching on what Kazy and Kozy are. Guessing the replace the restaurant on the corner of Cowboy? Maybe work a visit this week.

But I've only used Penny Black as a ST hotel. What is upstairs?

[EihTooms]

If girls in a go go bar are not making enough money, will they drop their prices? IF what other posters write can be believed, they reckon can still get girls for low prices. I don't know how low is the standard of the girls or if the posters are truthful.
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If girls can't cut it in Thermae, they will soon move on and try elsewhere. Would they lower the price in Thermae? Maybe. Doubtful? But if they start on Soi 4 it will be a lower price.
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Of course, this is purely anecdotal, but one of my hotter than most Left Side Thermae girls in my report a few days back went from 3,000 baht to 2,500 baht without my even saying anything, just hesitating a bit. During our discussion in the booth, she said she was giving me a discount (LOL. Who knows) because she and other girls were nervous that the cops were going to shut down Thermae again for drug testing any night. Apparently, Thermae's management had not been paying enough rice money lately or not in a timely manner. The cops had done that a couple of times in the recent past and the girls, for a while at least, were worried that they would be stuck in there for hours again with no chance of a customer while everyone was being tested.

Saw that girl in Thermae again last night. Aside from her and a handful of others, have to say Thermae's line up about 10:30 PM was one of the worst in terms of looks alone I have ever seen. I used to doubt or think it was an overstatement when guys said they could not find anything worth taking from Thermae on a given night. But last night would have been one of those nights for me. That particular girl I'd taken before was sitting with a youngish Japanese guy having a drink, discussing whatever and signaled for me to come over when he left to go to the toilet for a few minutes. Just to ask when I would take her again. But I would never bother to take her again without a full upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP, even if she offered me a discount under duress down to 500 baht.

[CzarNicholas]

If girls in a go go bar are not making enough money, will they drop their prices? IF what other posters write can be believed, they reckon can still get girls for low prices. I don't know how low is the standard of the girls or if the posters are truthful.

I think what is more prevalent is the girl will go to a different bar. I did one pretty girl in Baccara a couple of times, then she went to get a tit job. Not good. She then moved to Tilac, maybe not enough customers in Baccara.

2 other very poor performing girls Chocolate and Praow probably got no repeats in Doll House. Those two moved to Crazy house. Chocolate got a bad tit job done and had a baby.

Had a good time with Pin in Boss massage. She soon turned working the street on Soi 4. She was superior looking to most Soi 4 girls and explained she made more money there with a lot more customers..

I saw a girl staring at me and smiling in thermae sitting on the island in the middle, in either Dec? Jan or Feb. I was with mr tooms, he noticed her smiling at me, I wasn't really interested.

A few days later I ran into her working on soi 4, I didn't know it was her but she remembered me, she was happy to see me, gave me her line and offered 1000 b session, I said maybe tomorrow? LOL.

I was still not interested, but I'm guessing her price would have been different in thermae? She was standing by the huge glass store front tattoo shop, I forget the name of it?

Isn't this called dynamic-pricing LMAO.

[Syzygies]

If girls in a go go bar are not making enough money, will they drop their prices? IF what other posters write can be believed, they reckon can still get girls for low prices. I don't know how low is the standard of the girls or if the posters are truthful.

I think what is more prevalent is the girl will go to a different bar. I did one pretty girl in Baccara a couple of times, then she went to get a tit job. Not good. She then moved to Tilac, maybe not enough customers in Baccara.

2 other very poor performing girls Chocolate and Praow probably got no repeats in Doll House. Those two moved to Crazy house. Chocolate got a bad tit job done and had a baby.

Had a good time with Pin in Boss massage. She soon turned working the street on Soi 4. She was superior looking to most Soi 4 girls and explained she made more money there with a lot more customers.

If girls can't cut it in Thermae, they will soon move on and try elsewhere. Would they lower the price in Thermae? Maybe. Doubtful? But if they start on Soi 4 it will be a lower price.

In my line of work, I need the money, so rather than drop my prices, I am more likely to give them a lot of extra hours for free. They will get value. Win win. Some girls are smart enough to give extra special and time service for a bit more money but not all. The girls are not economics experts. Some idiots proposed that all girls should cost the same amount for fuck, regardless of looks and service and time. Obsurd! I am an expert in my technical field. Would stupid if I charged the same as every dumb non expert. However there will be charlatans that charge more of course, but what is delivered will be very average or worse.

[Franciscass]

Pricing is different in different segments. Absolutely supply and demand plays a part on what you pay on the street but hardly at all in the go go scene where it more controlled by owners / operators.

[Goatscrot]

I don't agree with that. Right now, guys still have not returned after the end of Ramadan so customers are sparse in Jakarta. The free lance girls have dropped their prices from their normal asking. They also drop it during Ramadan right before they go home because they absolutely must have some money, they can't afford to go home alone any night unless there is no interest. Their families are quite demanding for cash at that time of year and there are few tourists or even expats in town due to Ramadan.

They do have "loss of face" issues when they get less money than the average. But I've been around long enough that they know I will never tell any girl how much I gave a different girl. If you are negotiating with a girl and tell her "I only gave that girl half of what you are asking!" You just screwed yourself because you just raised the price for every girl you meet from then on since none of them will trust you to keep your mouth shut about money.

Thais are very different than Indonesians.

[PVMonger]

Yes, same goes for many things here in LOS.

Very similar here in Mexico as well.

My suspicion is that the same "philosophy" exists in many developing countries and it is 180 degrees different from the way a "business" is run in, say, the US.

In a developing country, if you lack customers you raise prices to make more money from the same customer base. In the US, if you lack customers, you have a "sale" to get more customers so you can make more money.