Bangkok Reports

[Smoothy]

We had already covered the topic of her shaved pussy and her over the top love for DATY in our conversation during the two LDs. And she had every opportunity to change or alter the terms of my offer, including the amount of money I would pay above 2,000 baht as long as she had at least some idea what else she WOULD be willing to do in the room to justify my paying her that much or even 3,000 baht. As you see in my post, I even asked her about that. But she apparently couldn't think of anything that she would be willing to do in order to earn 3,000 baht except me eating her pussy.

Nice occupation I'd say. I no longer feel bad that they get so few days off in a month.

You've gotten me hot for this girl. Can you share her name and her dancing number? I'll head over there tonight.

[Mogwai]

I have never ever seen a tit job looking that good and real, so they must be real.

I'm almost 100% sure they are real. I've come across several girls in the Philippines with tits like that over the years. And they were all natural. Filipina's can have amazing tits. More so than Thai girls.

[Mogwai]

Elsa's nose is not perfect but I think we can overlook that. Is it possible she has a nose job (it does look slightly strange)?

Did you ever consider going to a shrink to talk about your nose job phobia? LOL.
This girl has a perfectly normal nose for a Filipina, or any other woman on the planet for that matter.

[Jim200]

On the average, girls there in AC are less attractive (in my opinion). I think Baccara by itself has more hot girls than all of AC.

I will say that I wanted to get to AC to sample the famous Elsa a while back when she first hit the scene. She was probably the hottest girl I have seen working AC. Then again, I like girls with big natural tits.

That's a great body.

[CzarNicholas]

I don't know about in Thailand, but in Indonesia I know plenty of girls who would much rather be fucked than have their pussy eaten. They would definitely want to charge more to have you perfom DATY on them than to fuck them.

Or fucked instead.

But my theory is, that this, to them is a unique request.

And unique requests, justify a surcharge (call it a special request surcharge?) or a fetish surcharge?

If you would of asked to just suck her toes.

Or only kiss or only eat her ass.

I'm guessing her reaction might have been similar?

Or it could just be that she doesn't care what you want, even if you just want to talk.

She's charging you for her time.

Whether you want PSE like me? Or just want to cuddle for 60 minutes?

The rate is the same?

My theory is, if this is what you wanted, you should of asked for everything at a fair price.

And asked to renegotiate in the room.

I think you are at serious risk of ruining a deal.

But by trying to micro manage every detail (or simply getting way to specific) before hand in the bar.

Most hookers don't like that, many see it as the monger being way to controlling.

You have to be much more flexible on the fly.

I can't imagine how many deals I would have ruined if I tried to manage every detail before the session.

And I can't imagine how many life altering sex sessions I would have missed out on as a consequence.

They like to keep their options open, if someone wants iron clad assurances and some type of verbal agreement.

An oral contract of sorts, I can see this as counterproductive.

[EihTooms]

I don't know about in Thailand, but in Indonesia I know plenty of girls who would much rather be fucked than have their pussy eaten. They would definitely want to charge more to have you perfom DATY on them than to fuck them.

We had already covered the topic of her shaved pussy and her over the top love for DATY in our conversation during the two LDs. And she had every opportunity to change or alter the terms of my offer, including the amount of money I would pay above 2,000 baht as long as she had at least some idea what else she WOULD be willing to do in the room to justify my paying her that much or even 3,000 baht. As you see in my post, I even asked her about that. But she apparently couldn't think of anything that she would be willing to do in order to earn 3,000 baht except me eating her pussy.

Nice occupation I'd say. I no longer feel bad that they get so few days off in a month.

[Smoothy]

2,000 baht just to get her pussy eaten.

I don't know about in Thailand, but in Indonesia I know plenty of girls who would much rather be fucked than have their pussy eaten. They would definitely want to charge more to have you perfom DATY on them than to fuck them.

[CzarNicholas]

If I'm not mistaken, she was 18 or 19 in that photo. Those tits are obviously real. And yes, she would be a top 2 or 3 in any bar in AC. Hell, she would be top 1 in the history of AC. LOL.

If you like small boobs, you and I would be good to hang out together. I can't stand small boobs so we wouldn't be going for the same girls.

Girl's bodies with tits like that seem to go to hell very quickly. If you don't get them around 18,19 or 20 years old, you are too late. She's a fat cow now.

She is top 2-3 in AC bar.

But lets be honest that's not saying much (if anything) LOL.

I don't know if I would call her top 2-3 in BKK bars, I would most likely pass on her in either venue.

No offense, she's not hideous.

I wouldn't turn her down for free, I would just rather spend my money on something.

That would excite me.

That being said.

If I met her, and she was really sweet, and whispered in my ear all the crazy.

Things a good girls knows to say.

Anything is possible, and there are always more variables for me than those that can be captured in just a photo.

[EihTooms]

I don't see why you use the term idiot-proof at all. Some girls can like the deal and some not.
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Yes, I suppose in today's environment, I might say it would take a "Very Stable Genius" and only average looking bargirl at best who I am sure does not get barfined every night, especially on a Monday during Low Season, to refuse to accept 2,000 baht just to get her pussy eaten for a while with no requirement or expectation of anything else along with a definite offer to pay her more if she herself was inspired to do anything more, to not even consider countering with 2,500 baht as several other girls in the same bar have done recently almost immediately after saying "3,000 baht" and getting a cool response from the punter (even for an outright upfront agreement to provide BBFS+CIP). And particularly with a customer whom she had been groping, initiating tongue kissing and luvin' on like a horny octopus for a half hour. LOL.

Or maybe the mamasan was the "Very Stable Genius" here. I agree with you. As soon as I saw TWO mamasans zeroing in on what I would guess was the ONLY barfine possibility on the scene at the moment (me), I probably could have made and won a big money bet it would not turn out well for me or the girl.

[Smoothy]

She's certainly cute and stacked but comparing some of your photos from home it begs the question why did you leave Jakarta? You could have saved the airfare and gotten better girls.

I'm not in AC. I never did that girl, I was just using her as a reference to the best I have seen in AC. Great tits!

AC is a relaxed place for retired guys with too much time on their hands to hang out with young playful girls. The girls may be better looking elsewhere, but I understand the attraction of the place. I'm not retired yet, so I have no interest in it.

[Syzygies]

The barfine at Butterflies has been 1,000 for quite a while I think. Well, several months at least. Maybe there are times when they run an "Early Bird Special", a "Late Bird Special" or a "Weekday Special" when the barfine is reduced to 700 baht that I am not aware of. Actually, Monday was kinda sorta a holiday or a special day in that it was technically the Queen's Birthday I think. Maybe it would have been 700 baht on a regular Monday but raised 300 baht to honor the Queen. lol.

Ha ha the new Thai mothers day, and lots of bargirls are mothers.

I would not be surprised if Butterflys has multiple BFs depending if girl from agency or not, and maybe bath girls are different to stage girls. I probably once knew but have forgotten now, since I don't frequent this bar. Time of night dependent BFs are possible too.

[Goferring]

If I'm not mistaken, she was 18 or 19 in that photo. Those tits are obviously real. And yes, she would be a top 2 or 3 in any bar in AC. Hell, she would be top 1 in the history of AC. LOL.

If you like small boobs, you and I would be good to hang out together. I can't stand small boobs so we wouldn't be going for the same girls.

Girl's bodies with tits like that seem to go to hell very quickly. If you don't get them around 18,19 or 20 years old, you are too late. She's a fat cow now.

She's certainly cute and stacked but comparing some of your photos from home it begs the question why did you leave Jakarta? You could have saved the airfare and gotten better girls.

I guess the grass is always greener. 😁.

Some great and informative posts regardless.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. You're correct about getting in early. Age and, even worse, kids do a lot of damage. Their body types are also the type to put on belly and hip fat later on while spinners remain stick figures.

Cheers.

[EihTooms]

1000 BF? Did it go up from 700?

Agreed that she may be a bit dense as it is slow season, but if she gets BFed every night, that may be the reason she's holding at 3 k. The less attractive of the 2 who initially sat with you might have done BBFS+CIM, DATY, or whatever, but the board will never know. Safe to say you stopped by other gogo bars at Nana, and it was disappointing?

The barfine at Butterflies has been 1,000 for quite a while I think. Well, several months at least. Maybe there are times when they run an "Early Bird Special", a "Late Bird Special" or a "Weekday Special" when the barfine is reduced to 700 baht that I am not aware of. Actually, Monday was kinda sorta a holiday or a special day in that it was technically the Queen's Birthday I think. Maybe it would have been 700 baht on a regular Monday but raised 300 baht to honor the Queen. lol.

On this night, last night (Monday), I did not go into any other gogo bars. After leaving Butterflies, I went to Thermae and took a girl from there. I will post a Report on that and two previous Thermae take outs over the past 3 months later when I can devote more attention to it.

[Syzygies]

Girl's bodies with tits like that seem to go to hell very quickly. If you don't get them around 18,19 or 20 years old, you are too late. She's a fat cow now.

I have done 18 to 20 YO girls with natural tits equally high (but not equally large). I got one accidentally at a cart bar on Asoke that maybe was not to 18. Whoops! her tits were amazing in terms of no sag. Maybe still have the tits pic. Will check. Without the face it is hard to be sure which girl is which from the past.

Yes given her tits are real and so high, she has to be young, and one would not expect it to last. My GF has biggish tits but at 39 they have to start to sag. Certainly cannot sit as high as Elsa's. First glance at the pics, one can think they look suspicious, but closer examination actually finds no evidence of a silicone job. I have never ever seen a tit job looking that good and real, so they must be real. Simple probability logic. If a tit job like that was possible, surely would cost a fortune and AC girls would not be able to afford it. Even Hollywood movie star tit jobs are not looking that good.

Fortunately I can take girls with very small tits as well (if nice shaped). For me the shape and curve is all important and fake ones can rarely have acceptable shape. So I don't like fake ones unless a very superior subtle job, that is not exaggerated.

[CzarNicholas]

I don't see why you use the term idiot-proof at all. Some girls can like the deal and some not. I suspect the whole thing was doomed from the moment the mamasans arrived. Normally I hand bar fines to girls with no direct mamasan involvement. I am now thinking that I should make a rule for myself, that once a mamasan arrives and starts putting her thoughts in, the deal should be off, and I should warn girls I am allergic to mamasans too.

I recall my last disaster at RB2, occurred after a mamasan approached and wanted me to pay upfront, which I refused, but I should have cancelled the girl as well. In the end wasted the 1 K barfine, wasted my time taking her back to my apartment, and wasted some small money on what she wanted to eat at Maccas or was it KFC, I can't remember since I ordered nothing. I don't eat that shit. Anyway she got no money since she refused to fuck being the black pad stain end of her period. I just wanted her to rinse up and fuck as normal (with condom).

My other thought is that all girls at Butterflies maybe programmed to believe that they are worth 3 K, even if clearly different girls are worth different amounts in my eyes.

Maybe the girl does not trust you that you will do only DATY for 2 k. Admittedly it seems like easy money, if is true. The girl never heard of a customer pulling this DATY only "scam" before. Ha ha. Just teasing and trying to imagine what she is thinking. I believe that you would pay more if you got what you wanted, as would I...

I don't believe in paying sucker price (sticker price).

Well one day in nana, I made a deal with a girl the mamasan came up right before I paid the BF.

And raised the price on our agreement, she knew I had barfined many girls out of that bar.

So when she did that I put down my glass and walked out.

I didn't return for a few days, and she never did that again LMAO!