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06-04-19 05:02 #45221
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by CzarNicholas [View Original Post]
If you like small boobs, you and I would be good to hang out together. I can't stand small boobs so we wouldn't be going for the same girls.
Girl's bodies with tits like that seem to go to hell very quickly. If you don't get them around 18,19 or 20 years old, you are too late. She's a fat cow now.
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06-04-19 04:52 #45220
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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06-04-19 04:42 #45219
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I recall my last disaster at RB2, occurred after a mamasan approached and wanted me to pay upfront, which I refused, but I should have cancelled the girl as well. In the end wasted the 1 K barfine, wasted my time taking her back to my apartment, and wasted some small money on what she wanted to eat at Maccas or was it KFC, I can't remember since I ordered nothing. I don't eat that shit. Anyway she got no money since she refused to fuck being the black pad stain end of her period. I just wanted her to rinse up and fuck as normal (with condom).
My other thought is that all girls at Butterflies maybe programmed to believe that they are worth 3 K, even if clearly different girls are worth different amounts in my eyes.
Maybe the girl does not trust you that you will do only DATY for 2 k. Admittedly it seems like easy money, if is true. The girl never heard of a customer pulling this DATY only "scam" before. Ha ha. Just teasing and trying to imagine what she is thinking. I believe that you would pay more if you got what you wanted, as would I.
I agree with you that the standard of girls at Butterflies is sometimes exaggerated, they are not really as good as Billboard girls overall, maybe the odd nice one. I consider Butterflies to be somewhat the Billboard 2nd tier girls, bearing in mind that Billboard also has few stunners for the face (mostly good bodies).
I did meet one Butterflies girl that I know was a good fuck because I used to do her at Dollhouse, but her body had deteriorated to pudgy. May have even had a baby since I last did her.
I don't really know much about how many girls can be bargained down to a lower price. It is extremely unlikely I am ever taking a lower standard girl, that is not in the top tier, and therefore are always the top price, likely, if specified before BFing. I still get plenty of girls though that do not negotiate a price with me at all. So I can pay what I determine to be fair which is never stingy. Of course I don't know exactly what I am getting but success rate is far higher with girls after no negotiation. These girls that do not negotiate price, are always very keen, and perform well. Maybe they can tell I am "Jai Dee". One such bargirl was not that keen to do BBFS, however when she could see I was having trouble cumming and dick would start to flag, she eventually gave in to BBFS on the 3rd round of fucking I think (still with no price negotiation). Her pussy was just a bit on the tight side for me, so BB was working much better. I am willing to COB instead of CIP. Now I can expect BBFS with her any time I want and never a price negotiation. It is so much easier once have regulars. I do have my HIV test certificate but I don't really know if most girls are educated enough to be able to decipher it, being in English. "Non Reactive" may be a bit mysterious to them. Perhaps I should be requesting my certificate to be in Thai, since I can read it.
In the really old days, I don't recall doing much negotiating with girls if ever.
I probably should be telling a mamasan that I just don't need her since the girl and myself have no communication issues at all, other than overly loud music at some venues..
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06-03-19 21:40 #45218
Posts: 54Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Agreed that she may be a bit dense as it is slow season, but if she gets BFed every night, that may be the reason she's holding at 3 k. The less attractive of the 2 who initially sat with you might have done BBFS+CIM, DATY, or whatever, but the board will never know. Safe to say you stopped by other gogo bars at Nana, and it was disappointing?
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06-03-19 20:29 #45217
Posts: 54522,000 Baht for DATY is not enough
I was cruising around Nana Plaza tonight and decided to pop in to Butterflies Go-Go Bar on the top floor. I got there early, almost exactly 9pm. Very few customers in the place. Very few customers walking around the Plaza or up or down Soi 4 at that hour.
I did not have a game plan, didn't want to follow a game plan this night really. If anything interesting came my way, I wanted to just "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" as much as possible while still being mindful not to simply agree to a top asking price (for this bar) without any expectations applied to it at all. But I have gotten bored with the usual patter leading up to a girl agreeing upfront to provide me with what I consider Real Sex (for money, of course). If necessary, I will happily hand a girl an offer only an idiot would refuse and, well, "go with the flow in the room and see what happens."
Believe it or not, this was one of those nights where I was willing to meet a new girl, take her to my room, engage ONLY in DATY if it turned out there was no way she would go for BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP (the only two ways I am either capable of or willing to ejaculate these days) and I would be just fine with it. Maybe we exchange Line info and engage in Real Sex next time. Or not. No biggie either way. Yes, I have nights like that these days.
So I sit in Butterfiles for about a half hour mostly uninspired by the line up. Eventually, a thoroughly average girl in this bar, which is not exactly known for an abundance of stunners, suddenly appears before me with a less than average friend and they sit at my side, lobbying for an LD for both, of course. I apologize for not choosing the less than average one and go with the average one. Again, no game plan. She seemed squeezable enough.
She sat on my lap through two LDs (went through them quite slowly actually). Lite French Kissing off and on. She felt good in my hands. I would say mid-20's. Not fat and not skinny. Healthy. Nice lips and mouth with a sensuous tongue. The cuddling was nice. Much murmuring about how much she likes me. Her English was actually pretty good. Ok. I'd say there was enough chemistry to take her on a night like this one.
Near the end of the second LD, two mamasans show up at our side. Do I want to pay her barfine and take her? Maybe. They wouldn't leave. I playfully waved them off. One dykie looking mamasan wouldn't leave without making sure I understood ALL the girls charge 3,000 baht for ST after I pay the 1,000 baht barfine. Which is BS, of course. I've taken many girls from that bar right up until the past couple of weeks for an agreed upon 2,500 baht. I have every reason to believe some have gone fairly recently for the barfine + 2,000 baht. And for BBFS+CIP. Whatever. Finally the TWO mamasans moved on so I could close a deal or not with the girl herself.
I liked this thoroughly average girl well enough to make that "idiot-proof" offer if for no other reason but to put an end to the Butterflies Go-Go Bar experience for now; I tell her and put it in Google Translate (and reverse translate to be as sure as possible it is what I mean to tell her) that I will pay the barfine and pay HER 2,000 baht just to eat her pussy (DATY). And IF we do more than that, which will be totally up to her, I will PAY her more than that.
"No. 3,000 baht", she says. No counter offer of 2,500 baht (I am sure I would have agreed to that on this night and under these particular circumstances). No clarification asked to make sure the offer was what she heard and read on my cellphone with her own eyes. Nothing. "3,000 baht." She called over the dykie mamasan. Since I really didn't give a damn if any girl took me up on this offer, I told and showed the dykie mamasan what I was offering the girl just in case there was any doubt about her understanding of it. "No. ALL the girls require 3,000 baht for ST." For only eating their pussy with an agreement to pay MORE if we do more than that in the room? "Yes."
The dykie mamasan walked away and then I asked the still cuddling girl what we would do in the room for the 3,000 baht. Remember, I just did not want to go through any discussion about the minimum I require this night, didn't want to have the "condom" conversation tonight, didn't want to explain for the umpteenth time that I was not looking for a BBBJ that ends as a Hand Job instead of a Blowjob. I was not going to pay to jerk myself off on some part of her body and call that "great sex". I wanted her to at least say, "Anything" or "Everything" or "Up to you" or "Boom boom" or "Stare at the wall" or something, anything. But nope. Nothing. Apparently, she was actually demanding 3,000 baht ST for the DATY I said I wanted to do to her and NOTHING else. LOL.
So I thanked them both for their time, the girl and the dykie mamasan, paid my approximate 500 baht check bin, left 20 baht tip for the server, stood up and moved on.
Either that offer was in no way as "idiot-proof" as I thought it would be on a slow Monday night during Low Season or I had simply encountered two idiots on lower Sukhumvit who could not see any reason on Earth to accept it.
That is when I headed over to Thermae and, for the 3rd time in so many months, take one of the better looking girls on the left side as you walk in the front door, the supposedly "Japanese Only" or "Japanese Preferred" side of their line up around the room. More on that later.
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06-03-19 17:39 #45216
Posts: 1284Originally Posted by Catire [View Original Post]
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06-03-19 12:04 #45215
Posts: 463Touche'.
Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
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06-03-19 11:44 #45214
Posts: 463So you consider her hot?
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
Not to mention they are probably fake.
And she looks old LOL.
Over 25 (in Asia is over the hill).
So this is what you consider top 2-3?
I probably wouldn't want to waste a bullet on her.
Maybe if she was closer to 18 yo rather than closer to 28 yo?
With smaller natural boobs.
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06-03-19 11:36 #45213
Posts: 463Seems like a naive question.
Originally Posted by Mogwai [View Original Post]
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06-03-19 09:08 #45212
Posts: 1575Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
Disclaimer. One man's treasure is another man's trash.
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06-03-19 07:15 #45211
Posts: 2204Originally Posted by CzarNicholas [View Original Post]Originally Posted by CzarNicholas [View Original Post]
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06-03-19 04:27 #45210
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
I will say that I wanted to get to AC to sample the famous Elsa a while back when she first hit the scene. She was probably the hottest girl I have seen working AC. Then again, I like girls with big natural tits.
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06-03-19 02:25 #45209
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by CzarNicholas [View Original Post]
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06-03-19 01:03 #45208
Posts: 463Well.
Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
I have found English is unimportant for sex, I just had the most magikal sex of my life in Russia with a hooker that didn't speak one word of English and we didn't even use google translate.
AC is a vile septic tank, with low prices.
BKK has quality girls, but will cost you more.
You have to do the cost benefit ratio analysis, I had some girls tell me serious quotes of 20000 in AC (I would give them 1000).
But I'm guessing some (desperate duans) are paying it.
I feel AC is bad for the "soul" with such abject poverty and filth (monster roaches everywhere).
I don't know if ill ever go back, I may?
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06-02-19 20:39 #45207
Posts: 141Bobfoc.
Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]