Bangkok Reports

[Belvaros]

We'll have to disagree here. They'll always admit it when pressed.

A++.

Most, many LB are on the scam I've found in the last 30 years. But WTF do I know or the many videos of LB / str8 guys show.

YMMV.

[Goatscrot]

Wrong. Pre-op ladyboys will usually tell you because you will find out anyway. Also given their still present dick they don't precisely identify as women. But post-op ladyboys (with artificial vagina) do often actually identify as women and then of course won't refer to themselves as male.

I talked to one transsexual on TF whose pictures where absolutely not giving even a hint of her having been a him. Not in the slightest. Turns out she transsexed at the age of 10! I doubt you will be able to even hear the difference given that she probably took hormones before voice break and puberty.

We'll have to disagree here. They'll always admit it when pressed.

[Belvaros]

You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.

The 3 that lied to me about being LB were pre-op, sorry for the confusion of my post and YES I know post op have the modified credit card readers. But quite a few post OP have been done in their early teens and may have lady voices so YMMV.

[MamaGuevos]

My wingman and I have been going to Bangkok for 10 days every January for about 10 years. We were big fans of Insanity as it had a nice balance of non-pros (of both sexes), semi-pros and a few hardcore girls. Neither of us are big drinkers, but nevertheless, we were able to reliably pull some FL girls from these bars / discos whenever we went. I should mention that we are both "mature", and while neither of us is fat (we both run 20-30 miles per week) or particularly ugly, no one would mistake us for being less than 60. We do fine, for example, on Thaifriendly or Tinder using our real photographs, so we are not that far over the hill, LOL.

In any case, Insanity has shut down, as has been documented here. Indeed, I was in BKK twice already this year and it is definitely shut down and does not look ready to reopen! There are articles on the internet saying it was busted for not paying attention to COVID rules. It won't open again until 2025 (which probably means it is closed forever).

We tried Mixx back in May, and the crowd was younger than I remembered. Most of the girls were not P4 P. Nice eye candy, but nothing for us to take home. After failing to attract more than a few glances from the pretty ladies over the course of an hour or so, we took home a pair of chubby Vietnamese girls whose performance was quite lackluster.

I am trying to find another club in BKK to visit with the intention of enjoying the music, the hot ladies and scoring a beautiful Asian for a night of P4 P fun. We are not looking for a go-go bar, but we have no personal experience with a variety of bars that may suit our purposes (eg, Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte and Route 66 have all been recommended), but I just cannot tell if my top priority, ie, pulling a lady to bring back to my hotel, is likely to be accomplished. The advice of the community is requested.

By the way, although neither of us drinks, it did occur to me that we might do better buying a bottle of expensive whiskey and sitting at a table. That might attract some of the pretty ladies at Mixx (or it might attract their boyfriends). Does anyone have experience with this approach?

[Newton York]

Sorry, only just saw this post. I have her whatsapp. I had her line but for some reason I cannot login anymore (dog ate my homework). I have videos of us dancing and yada yada yada.

As you said she is what she is, but the sex is A-, the attitude is A++, her body is be+, her face a see+ IMHO.

But, as I said, I like the lady and she hads the right attitude, is semi educated, used to help out old people yada yada yada. More of a companion with great ball sucking / cock sucking techniques.

DM me for whatsapp nos if needed.

As for sex, I had an Indonesian-American friend when I lived in Vegas. Not attractive in the face, chunky fake boobs body BUT she had the best touch ever. One night at the Palms bar area, she gave me a hand massage for 30 minutes, then groped my neck gently (tingled my spine) and massaged my dick through my pants. I spurted everywhere. Best O I'd ever had until then. She took me home sucked me twice and swallowed what I had, like a nice girl should. I tried to DATY but her pussy was too hairy so she fucked me each way to heaven. Only time we did it. Then, it got weird, she was ugly, so we went back to being dance mates. She had a 3/10 face IMHO.

So YMMV. Then I've been with 2 models and a few porn stars. The former were shit in bed, the latter PSE but, several were dangerously diseased in the end and I was lucky not to get anything at all from them. In TH I've had 9's who were shit, 10's who were great and everything from epic failures to the greatest PSE in the land.

So anyway, back to the girl in my pics, the Cambodian, she is one of my top 5 ever LT players.

YMMV.

I agree Belvaros, some of the best fucks I've ever had was with mildly attractive chicks. Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that since they only look kinda mildly fuckable, they try harder at performance. While the hot chicks, always get by with their looks. This is a pretty common phenomenon at places like Thermae. So just like you, I never judge a book by its cover. Since we can kinda afford it, I always try to give the girl a chance. Yes, my gut instinct when I see a 'butterface', as in 'She's hot everywhere 'but her face', is to just walk, but more often than not they give me a good time. Easily in the top 5 best fucks I ever had was in Geylang years ago. Kinda cute and a nice kind of chubby, she wasn't exactly a model type, but by the balls of Lucifer himself, she rocked my world. I wish there was some way to find her again. And I remember one of the first times I got in to the whole Korean girl scene here in the tri-state area, when she opened the door, I thought kinda like 'meh', but by Buddha she changed my life, and I went to see her again at least 5 more times. The last 2 times with her I even went bareback. The only reason I had to stop seeing her was because I realized I was starting to develop feelings for her. That's a no go. These 2 girls were very good at rimming by the way, and that kinda awesome service, you remember forever.

Anyway, take it from me fellas, give them uglies a try once in a while. Well, not too ugly. I can say all this too cause I'm ugly as sin myself. On the level of acting legend Danny Devito ugly, I'm just saying. Know why Thailand is paradise? Cause chicks will bang guys like me that look as ugly as comedy auteur Danny Devito, that's why.

[Nyezhov]

You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.

Sounds like you have had some experience.

[Evinmors]

Yes, I read the FF, and I know it's been asked a while ago, but no answers. So here it is again:

I love to visit a BJ bar or massage parlor where I can see other guys being serviced or hear the bonking noises, with a potential peak. I love see girls at work.

Anyone can recommend a BJ bar or massage parlor that has that?

Thanks all!

Evan.

[Belvaros]

I don't know dude, she's kinda cute I guess, with the BBFS I suppose worth a boink. But we're paying hard earned cash money here. Maybe it's the photos. I kinda get it I suppose. If the chick's a real sweetheart, that'll more than compensate for the looks, God knows I've had more than my fair share of getting really attractive chicks only for them to be a really bad performer, and just to be bad personality wise. Why, one of the best fucks I ever had was in Geylang with this Thai chick, that while attractive, wouldn't be described as gorgeous. But boy, did she deliver in bed. So I thank you Belvaros for posting photos. Everybody talks a big game here, not me though, I just tell it like it is because my life truly sucks, but anyone who posts real photos, always greatly appreciated! But also, if you could add some information on how we might also partake in her. Is she on fiwfans?

Sorry, only just saw this post. I have her whatsapp. I had her line but for some reason I cannot login anymore (dog ate my homework). I have videos of us dancing and yada yada yada.

As you said she is what she is, but the sex is A-, the attitude is A++, her body is be+, her face a see+ IMHO.

But, as I said, I like the lady and she hads the right attitude, is semi educated, used to help out old people yada yada yada. More of a companion with great ball sucking / cock sucking techniques.

DM me for whatsapp nos if needed.

As for sex, I had an Indonesian-American friend when I lived in Vegas. Not attractive in the face, chunky fake boobs body BUT she had the best touch ever. One night at the Palms bar area, she gave me a hand massage for 30 minutes, then groped my neck gently (tingled my spine) and massaged my dick through my pants. I spurted everywhere. Best O I'd ever had until then. She took me home sucked me twice and swallowed what I had, like a nice girl should. I tried to DATY but her pussy was too hairy so she fucked me each way to heaven. Only time we did it. Then, it got weird, she was ugly, so we went back to being dance mates. She had a 3/10 face IMHO.

So YMMV. Then I've been with 2 models and a few porn stars. The former were shit in bed, the latter PSE but, several were dangerously diseased in the end and I was lucky not to get anything at all from them. In TH I've had 9's who were shit, 10's who were great and everything from epic failures to the greatest PSE in the land.

So anyway, back to the girl in my pics, the Cambodian, she is one of my top 5 ever LT players.

YMMV.

[ChrisCross123]

You always know if you pay attention. And if in doubt you can always ask. Ladyboys are not there to trick people. In fact they don't want a customer having an unpleasant surprise either.

Wrong. Pre-op ladyboys will usually tell you because you will find out anyway. Also given their still present dick they don't precisely identify as women. But post-op ladyboys (with artificial vagina) do often actually identify as women and then of course won't refer to themselves as male.

I talked to one transsexual on TF whose pictures where absolutely not giving even a hint of her having been a him. Not in the slightest. Turns out she transsexed at the age of 10! I doubt you will be able to even hear the difference given that she probably took hormones before voice break and puberty.

[ChrisCross123]

Yes, I've encountered a few post ops with lovely lady voices and gentle movements. But I agree. Generally, I find the LB are most aggressive (except the really clever ones). But if I'm walking down Cowboy and a young lady chases me (I'm in my 50's etc) it will almost always be a LB. Outside normal bars / clubs promotion girls will grab me but generally are doing so in a less demanding way. I did encounter many LB on TF pretending but I tell all the potentials that my hotel will check ID and no LB are allowed. They disappear quickly. Also the ones around Nana etc, I do the same trick if I am unsure. Despite all that I have had 3 get to my room or apt over the years and gone for the grope to find ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.

[HorseTrader]

Unfortunately, the older I get, the barer my hook looks...

My hook is only baited with portraits of the king.

[11Bravo]

If you fish in the ponds that the local lads do you will find a lot of taller white skined women who have not had babies.

Unfortunately, the older I get, the barer my hook looks...

[11Bravo]

Not me. By the way the Japanese passport is better than most western ones. They have more agreements with more countries that allow them to enter countries without a visa. Learned this from a Chinese cutie after sex. Don't know why she felt the need to share that information.

Had a GF with the best combo, dual national: Swiss and Danish. As a Dane, could work anywhere in the EU. With the Swiss, didn't need a visa for most countries.

And the most useful superpower is a friendly attitude, a good heart, with a bit of humility thrown in. Opens a lot more doors than a boot.

White men are turned away from 90+ percent of the adult related places in Japan and Korea. Hell, even other Asian are turned away if you can't speak the local language. You won't even be able to take a street walker from Okubo Park cause most of the girls can't speak English or only trust to go with locals.

You don't even have to leave Bangkok to find places where white men are turned away. Thaniya Road would be one of the examples.

Back at turn of the century, working with a Black American officer who'd been stationed in Japan. Said he had a great time; any number of Japanese civilian girls wanted a unique experience. He didn't need to BS.

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As to discrimination, I found it wasn't racial or national but economic when I was sent to the front of the government line. My salary cost the customer more, I was there for work, so better use of my time and eliminate queue delays, more time on the job, what they were paying for.

[Goatscrot]

I don't know, does Goatscrot need glasses, unable to detect post-op trans, or should ChrisCross123 refrain from pulling statistics out of his ass as if they were real? Hard to tell, but I know which way I'm leaning.

If you fish in the ponds that the local lads do you will find a lot of taller white skined women who have not had babies.

[Goatscrot]

I don't know dude, I've heard many a guy tell that they can spot a ladyboy cause they're just so good at this whole picking up chicks thing. But said same guy would come back with a story of how he had no idea that the lady was a dude.

Time for Aerosmith! Dude looks like a lady!

Oh my God! It's the crying game!

But like come on. If we were all studs so freaking good at getting chicks into bed, why are we in Thailand paying for sex? God knows I can't get it any other way not just cause I'm old, but cause I'm ugly as sin. I tell ya dudes, even in this anonymous forum I can be honest and don't have to resort to pretending to be anything I'm not. I say roll with the punches. If you go as far as bringing the ladyboy back to the room, and you find yourself staring at junk, don't freak out. Politely say no thanks and move on. Them Thai ladyboys, some of them are so good looking, you'd never know. You want guarantees, never pick the girls standing outside of Thermae, and when at Nana make sure the bar you're in does not have ladyboys. Thailand is a great country, it's our playground, let's be nice there. Even if I say that I'm 99% sure the chicks I banged from Nana and Cowboy were real chicks, but when you've had 10 beers, and some of them look so real, post op and all that, you never know.

The statistical odds of us having banged at least one post op while hobbying in Thailand, especially if you end up with dozens and dozens of chicks in a single weeks long trip, is pretty high. Some of them Nana bars, they won't necessarily tell you, even if they have the signs up. So I take it back, no guarantees in a Nana bar. Well, then again it depends. Man, There's so many conflicting reports on this and things change so fast there. Just go with your gut.

You always know if you pay attention. And if in doubt you can always ask. Ladyboys are not there to trick people. In fact they don't want a customer having an unpleasant surprise either.