Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?

I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.

I enjoy doing it and doing makes me hornier for the girl. I am not moved one way or another by whatever subservience or power play element might be found in it.

Denying myself the pleasure of moving my tongue over the girl's pussy and only laying there to feel her tongue on my dick and balls would, imo, be like denying myself the pleasure of running my hands over her body and only laying there like a lox, submitting myself to be touched by her.

You know, there is an onerous rule in most American strip joints that the girl giving you a lapdance can touch and kiss the customer but the customer dare not touch or move to kiss her. The key word there being "onerous". They don't enforce that rule as a favor to the customer or to enhance his enjoyment of the experience. Quite the opposite.

Don't you get a woody when you move your hand over the girl's bare skin, her breasts, her pussy? Why would that dynamic only apply to your hand and suddenly come to a halt for your tongue and lips?

[Syzygies]

I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?

I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.

Each to their own. If you don't want any of your girls to actually enjoy it, that is up to you. I happen to like girls that really get into it, and them getting off on DATY is usually a good start, they can get quite passionate.

I understand where you are coming from in a way. I find Dan's talk about masterbating the lady a bit strange, but that is his way, where I prefer DATY. Similarly I like a good BBBJ but never take a handjob from a girl. Just doesn't interest me much and they mostly do it badly.

Hours is a bit of an exaggeration. Very sensitive girls can cum from DATY in less than two minutes and then take multiple pops. Very difficult to cum girls could take up to 25 mins to get relaxed and to get to the right style of DATY. One Columbian hooker, claimed I was the first guy that ever made her cum in the FKK shop called "The Palace" (from a long extended DATY). Could have been fibbing, one does not know. I agree that 25 minutes of DATY could be tiresome and give you a jaw ache (not to mention wasted time if clock is ticking). However if I have 60 minutes with the girl or more, I am not going to use the entire time in BBBJ and fucking. Most girls will not need more than 10 mins of DATY. The tongue is a very strong muscle and never ever tires. Only the jaw.

I don't think I would getting a regular fuck with my Mrs now if she wasn't very keen on the DATY. I am more than willing to service her every day. I can still do DATY even if too inebriated for my dick to be working properly. This is a bit like guys who want a BBBJ to get off and don't even want to try to fuck the girl (too lazy I guess or dick works better in BBBJ).

Guys like a really good BBBJ and cum more easily from that. Similarly girls like a very good DATY, and according to Dan, they like a good hand job too. Girls can get multiple pops from DATY too if they choose. None of my regular girls is knocking back DATY unless they are on a period. I find that most like it, and most want it in the warm up to sex to get them juiced up etc. And really in the mood. I have a DATY skills. No point to waste it. Similarly a girl with any great skills should use them and not waste them.

Girls certainly will be disinterested by DATY if it not a good one, and not all girls like exactly the same thing or same way. Likewise I would rather skip the BBBJ than suffer a bad one.

You like to lie back and have the girl do the servicing. Great. No problem for me, and I am not puzzled by it. I just don't require rimming etc. I am probably more of a doer than a receiver, most of the time. I have been to a BJ parlour for BJ only, but very rare. I always wanted to do DATY and fucking as well.

[Smoothy]

I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?

I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.

[Syzygies]

I agree with this. You often get what you pay for, not always, but paying a little extra can give way more back in value. For instance, I have one girl in BKK who is not a pro, has a normal job, but sees guys very rarely and I give her 7000 THB. But bear in mind she is an absolute stunner, we will spend a full 2 days over the weekend together for that, and I don't have to go out, chat to loads of girls, spend money on drinks and have a late night and a drunk shag.

What you mean is she is not a full time Pro (or I like the term hooker, since Pro can mean just Professional). It doesn't really matter what labels we attach to girls, almost all like to have some economic benefits, as well as the sex.

So I think your setup is ideal. That is what I prefer to go with as well. I have some specific girls that I use for private meetings. One was an ex hooker that was supposed to have retired. Ha ha. Maybe not fully. She still has sex and economic needs.

Strangely my Mrs' sexual needs have increased a lot this year, so I am mongering far less. As she is willing to fuck very regularly, her body gets used to it, and she can cope with much more sex. She used to get pussy damage or soreness problems but they seem to have gone away. I am very careful with DATY to shave very smooth to not scratch the delicate sensitive pussy. One of my major mongering drives was not getting enough sex.

[DavidRim]

I haven't paid more though. I have a girl I find incredibly attractive and we have amazing sex for 7000 for a full weekend. That's the same price as some 7/10 escorts for 2 hours! My point is you sometimes have to go through the initial paying more and taking a chance on a girl you find more attractive than a 3 k girl, to get to this stage.

In the interests of brevity, a Porsche costs more than a Toyota. I choose to drive a nice car and fuck hot women. See'est La Vie.

Feigning / promoting a powerless mentality is not very compelling!!

This isn't even debatable, so in the interest of brevity.

I will say we (espec those that here on an international mongering forum) can "affect" pricing, and the zeitgeist in any mongering city.

Do you want to be part of the "problem"?

I can't think of a bigger threat to the future of mongering for anyone and everyone than runaway pricing.

A nice haircut is 48 pesos in a decent salon in AC.

A hooker quoted me a serious quote of 20000 pesos last night (I will say the most I would pay her was about 1000).

Does anyone think this is a good thing?

I ask many non sex workers what their salary is for 40 hrs.

1000 pesos, so she wants 5 months salary, 20 weeks of working for 1000 p per week.

I will posit many of those that "promote / advocate / rationalize" paying "more" are deliberately trying to "affect" change.

In the favor of the hookers!

[CzarNicholas]

If they are truly pretty, I don't see any problem for them to get this price of 5000 to 7000 LT. Their time is valuable to some of them. If they are ugly that is a totally different story.

Some guys find this price insane. Fine don't buy, but others surely will. We don't have the power to control the market. Get a cheap plain girl instead. Some want quality more than cheap. Just like I look for a quality coffee, value for money, not the cheapest, because I want to enjoy it. For me this price is a fab deal compared to Escort prices, if the girl is really appealing (and has skills), and don't have to take an otherwise plainish girl site unseen with all those fucking bad surgeries.

For cheap girls, go to Soi 4 street girls. Naam was tallish and quite good looking (lacking tits only and teeth slightly askew better than mine) and wanting 1300 for ST. She knocked back many guys because she does not have to bargain and take less. She has that power because looks better than most of the girls there. Bangkok girl not Isaan for a change. I gave her more for incentive to make it an extra special experience, and she did not fail me. Great GFE and no rushing. Clearly likes farangs. Easy one to repeat when looking for a good price. Did not check what she would want for LT.

Please elaborate.

What is quality?

What is cheap?

I can find a very hot girl 18 yo in AC for 500 maybe 1000.

I will say hotter and younger than the 20000 hooker quote (probably won't be wearing a dress) and much better service.

So please qualify the use of these words.

What is quality? A hot 18 yo no kids for 500-1000 vs 28 yo with kids in a nice dress and fresh haircut.

What is cheap?

Please define these super subjective terms you use.

What makes a hooker qualify as quality? Her arbitrary price?

How does she come up with 20000?

She's at least 28 yo.

And from what I can see 20-25 is over the hill in AC.

I will be in BKK Friday.

I hope Naam is around, I just want to see what she looks like as a reference point.

What is her "quality" to you?

Can you give her a number? 1-10?

Would you consider her "cheap".

[CzarNicholas]

If they are truly pretty, I don't see any problem for them to get this price of 5000 to 7000 LT. Their time is valuable to some of them. If they are ugly that is a totally different story.

Some guys find this price insane. Fine don't buy, but others surely will. We don't have the power to control the market. Get a cheap plain girl instead. Some want quality more than cheap. Just like I look for a quality coffee, value for money, not the cheapest, because I want to enjoy it. For me this price is a fab deal compared to Escort prices, if the girl is really appealing (and has skills), and don't have to take an otherwise plainish girl site unseen with all those fucking bad surgeries.

For cheap girls, go to Soi 4 street girls. Naam was tallish and quite good looking (lacking tits only and teeth slightly askew better than mine) and wanting 1300 for ST. She knocked back many guys because she does not have to bargain and take less. She has that power because looks better than most of the girls there. Bangkok girl not Isaan for a change. I gave her more for incentive to make it an extra special experience, and she did not fail me. Great GFE and no rushing. Clearly likes farangs. Easy one to repeat when looking for a good price. Did not check what she would want for LT.

Feigning / promoting a powerless mentality is not very compelling!!

This isn't even debatable, so in the interest of brevity.

I will say we (espec those that here on an international mongering forum) can "affect" pricing, and the zeitgeist in any mongering city.

Do you want to be part of the "problem"?

I can't think of a bigger threat to the future of mongering for anyone and everyone than runaway pricing.

A nice haircut is 48 pesos in a decent salon in AC.

A hooker quoted me a serious quote of 20000 pesos last night (I will say the most I would pay her was about 1000).

Does anyone think this is a good thing?

I ask many non sex workers what their salary is for 40 hrs.

1000 pesos, so she wants 5 months salary, 20 weeks of working for 1000 p per week.

I will posit many of those that "promote / advocate / rationalize" paying "more" are deliberately trying to "affect" change.

In the favor of the hookers!

#realmenneveroverpay.

[Goatscrot]

Though I agree with you there is a high demand for SEA pussy as western world getting more feminist. More guys are not marrying and spending more of saved money on hookers I guess. In fact Indians though you may think spend less more of them are travelling to LOS these days (newly found disposable income).

Its just supply and demand, More desperation more is the cost.

OS.

Hint, it's not western guys pushing demand in Asian; it's Asians. And Asian dudes have different wants than western men.

[Nyezhov]

Feigning / promoting a powerless mentality is not very compelling!!

This isn't even debatable, so in the interest of brevity.

I will say we (espec those that here on an international mongering forum) can "affect" pricing, and the zeitgeist in any mongering city.

Do you want to be part of the "problem"?

I can't think of a bigger threat to the future of mongering for anyone and everyone than runaway pricing.

A nice haircut is 48 pesos in a decent salon in AC.

A hooker quoted me a serious quote of 20000 pesos last night (I will say the most I would pay her was about 1000).

Does anyone think this is a good thing?

I ask many non sex workers what their salary is for 40 hrs.

Dude,

It's a marketplace. They got the pooswa, it's theirs to sell. Price too high in Bangkok? I know some chicken shacks you can go to. Or there is always Sanam Luang.

[OldSnake]

Though I agree with you there is a high demand for SEA pussy as western world getting more feminist. More guys are not marrying and spending more of saved money on hookers I guess. In fact Indians though you may think spend less more of them are travelling to LOS these days (newly found disposable income).

Its just supply and demand, More desperation more is the cost.

OS.

Feigning / promoting a powerless mentality is not very compelling!!

This isn't even debatable, so in the interest of brevity.

I will say we (espec those that here on an international mongering forum) can "affect" pricing, and the zeitgeist in any mongering city.

Do you want to be part of the "problem"?

I can't think of a bigger threat to the future of mongering for anyone and everyone than runaway pricing.

A nice haircut is 48 pesos in a decent salon in AC.

[CzarNicholas]

I agree with this. You often get what you pay for, not always, but paying a little extra can give way more back in value. For instance, I have one girl in BKK who is not a pro, has a normal job, but sees guys very rarely and I give her 7000 THB. But bear in mind she is an absolute stunner, we will spend a full 2 days over the weekend together for that, and I don't have to go out, chat to loads of girls, spend money on drinks and have a late night and a drunk shag. She just comes over and we spend a nice weekend together, so in reality it probably costs me less and it's of a much higher quality. I have a similar setup in Phuket. I mean, sometimes I like playing the whole mongering game, but the end result can disappoint. Where I've paid more I usually find it's worth it.

Feigning / promoting a powerless mentality is not very compelling!!

This isn't even debatable, so in the interest of brevity.

I will say we (espec those that here on an international mongering forum) can "affect" pricing, and the zeitgeist in any mongering city.

Do you want to be part of the "problem"?

I can't think of a bigger threat to the future of mongering for anyone and everyone than runaway pricing.

A nice haircut is 48 pesos in a decent salon in AC.

A hooker quoted me a serious quote of 20000 pesos last night (I will say the most I would pay her was about 1000).

Does anyone think this is a good thing?

I ask many non sex workers what their salary is for 40 hrs.

1000 pesos, so she wants 5 months salary, 20 weeks of working for 1000 p per week.

I will posit many of those that "promote / advocate / rationalize" paying "more" are deliberately trying to "affect" change.

In the favor of the hookers!

[Banana Boi]

Perhaps I should not have quoted your reply. I was trying to provide my recent observation at a specific time, not trying to disagree with you.

I absolutely agree with you on your observations about Mixx.

[DavidRim]

I agree with this. You often get what you pay for, not always, but paying a little extra can give way more back in value. For instance, I have one girl in BKK who is not a pro, has a normal job, but sees guys very rarely and I give her 7000 THB. But bear in mind she is an absolute stunner, we will spend a full 2 days over the weekend together for that, and I don't have to go out, chat to loads of girls, spend money on drinks and have a late night and a drunk shag. She just comes over and we spend a nice weekend together, so in reality it probably costs me less and it's of a much higher quality. I have a similar setup in Phuket. I mean, sometimes I like playing the whole mongering game, but the end result can disappoint. Where I've paid more I usually find it's worth it.

If they are truly pretty, I don't see any problem for them to get this price of 5000 to 7000 LT. Their time is valuable to some of them. If they are ugly that is a totally different story.

Some guys find this price insane. Fine don't buy, but others surely will. We don't have the power to control the market. Get a cheap plain girl instead. Some want quality more than cheap. Just like I look for a quality coffee, value for money, not the cheapest, because I want to enjoy it. For me this price is a fab deal compared to Escort prices, if the girl is really appealing (and has skills), and don't have to take an otherwise plainish girl site unseen with all those fucking bad surgeries.

For cheap girls, go to Soi 4 street girls. Naam was tallish and quite good looking (lacking tits only and teeth slightly askew better than mine) and wanting 1300 for ST. She knocked back many guys because she does not have to bargain and take less. She has that power because looks better than most of the girls there. Bangkok girl not Isaan for a change. I gave her more for incentive to make it an extra special experience, and she did not fail me. Great GFE and no rushing. Clearly likes farangs. Easy one to repeat when looking for a good price. Did not check what she would want for LT.

[Syzygies]

I was at Mixx a couple of weekend nights back in Feb. Not as many hot women as before. Not sure if they've flocked to another club. The few pretty ones that were there offered me LT in the neighborhood of THB5000 - THB7000. It seemed a bit high to me compared to past experiences. Didn't ask about ST. Would be interested in what others have had to pay.

If they are truly pretty, I don't see any problem for them to get this price of 5000 to 7000 LT. Their time is valuable to some of them. If they are ugly that is a totally different story.

Some guys find this price insane. Fine don't buy, but others surely will. We don't have the power to control the market. Get a cheap plain girl instead. Some want quality more than cheap. Just like I look for a quality coffee, value for money, not the cheapest, because I want to enjoy it. For me this price is a fab deal compared to Escort prices, if the girl is really appealing (and has skills), and don't have to take an otherwise plainish girl site unseen with all those fucking bad surgeries.

For cheap girls, go to Soi 4 street girls. Naam was tallish and quite good looking (lacking tits only and teeth slightly askew better than mine) and wanting 1300 for ST. She knocked back many guys because she does not have to bargain and take less. She has that power because looks better than most of the girls there. Bangkok girl not Isaan for a change. I gave her more for incentive to make it an extra special experience, and she did not fail me. Great GFE and no rushing. Clearly likes farangs. Easy one to repeat when looking for a good price. Did not check what she would want for LT.

[Nounce]

I think you mean 2 AM. I didn't say the girls were hot like top gogo girls but OP seemingly is not looking for hot gogo girls so I replied there are lots of girls, regardless of looks / age.

Perhaps I should not have quoted your reply. I was trying to provide my recent observation at a specific time, not trying to disagree with you.