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  1. #44810

    This theory is so bizarre.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    For many folks paying a lot is a source of pride. It is something they can brag about to their friends. Hey, I had this white skinned gal and I paid XX, XXX. Ooo! The friends exclaim. Nothing about the quality of the experience but just priority on looks and monetary amount. Shame but that is the changing culture of P4 P in BKK.
    I love to find the hottest WG I can and see how low will she go on price and give me true PSE.

  2. #44809

    I will partially agree LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDeuce  [View Original Post]
    CIM is supposed to mimic CIP and I guarantee it feels massively different especially if they maintain their technique through completion and a tad beyond. What she does with the little swimmers is some porn induced bullshiggidy. CIM when done by the correct provider worth the 50 euros just not in this market.
    CIM if done properly, can be pleasant.

    But I wouldn't pay 1 baht extra for it.

    I had a few gems in Moscow.

    They will fuck you / suck you, swallow, and keep sucking slowly until you push them away.

    Usually after you have gone flaccid.

    True GFE BJ.

  3. #44808

    Rainbow

    How are things at the Rainbow chain of shops these days?

    Still lots of faux Japanese girls?

    Did Rainbow 5 turn back into Rainbow 4?

  4. #44807

    I think this is the quintessential no-brainer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Korea? The only place in Thailand where a farang surcharge has been and is still imposed is some soapies.
    Men will pay less women will charge less and give more according to the higher the mongers desirability.

    Conversely men will pay more and WGs will charge more for the same service if not even less according to the lesser degree of desirability (real or perceived).

    https://www.wbez.org/shows/race-out-...0-474bd58df0dd

    I believe almost all Patpong bars don't allow white guys? Is that true?

    I went to Emannuelle entertainment plaza on Asoke and if you check their website I believe it shows different prices for white guys (higher of course).

    My #1 complaint about AC oh and I have many.

    Is the go gos charge fixed pricing.

    That helps out certain mongers from getting sodomized by the WGs.

    But it screws me, because I can't pay less, at least not straight to the bar.

    So it helps certain guys twice.

    It puts a cap on what they can be charged.

    And it puts a floor on what I can pay.

    Its not fair.

    So guess what? I won't pay it.

    Miss universe could walk in, I'm not paying sticker price.

    There's a saying in the united states.

    I'm not paying it on GP.

    General principle.

    I think I'm smarter than 99.9999999999% of the managers running these games.

    So I will beat them all day long lmao!

  5. #44806
    Quote Originally Posted by CzarNicholas  [View Original Post]
    Korea? The only place in Thailand where a farang surcharge has been and is still imposed is some soapies.

  6. #44805

    I believe this confirms my positions on the matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    For many folks paying a lot is a source of pride. It is something they can brag about to their friends. Hey, I had this white skinned gal and I paid XX, XXX. Ooo! The friends exclaim. Nothing about the quality of the experience but just priority on looks and monetary amount. Shame but that is the changing culture of P4 P in BKK.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comme...case_you_were/

    Farangs are charged more.

  7. #44804

    My 8 Hour Layover in Bangkok

    I landed in BKK at 9:15 am having had very little sleep on the flight. Immigration wasn't too bad but I was questioned about the length of my stay and had to show my boarding pass for my departing flight. I was carrying a bag with a change of clothing and toiletries. The rest of my luggage I had checked in so didn't have to go to collect any baggage and was out of the airport fairly quickly. On the way out, I stopped and got about 400 Bhat at the FX counter. Considered getting a data sim but I thought it would take too long so didn't bother. It wasn't important anyways as I knew where I was going, what to do and didn't want to be bothered with using up any of my time responding to anyone.

    Took the Airport Express to Makkasan and then the BTS to Sukhumvit. At Asok station next to Sukhumvit Station, I converted all the money I thought I would need for the day (I think the currency converter is called Rich or something like that). Grabbed a coffee, looked at the time (10:30 am) and was a little giddy with how well everything was going to plan.

    The plan: I would have over a week of pent up frustration ready to burst by the time I would land in BKK. I had been working in a fairly dusty environment and combined with a lot of travel and the plane ride, I knew I would want a nice soapy nuru massage to clean up every inch of my body. I also didn't trust myself and was convinced that I would pop under a minute of a girl rubbing her body on me. With that in mind, I knew I would need to do my first pop pretty quickly and it should be a blowjob because it would be a sin to not let all that cum go into a pretty mouth. Then, with my balls somewhat drained, then I would get a relaxing massage and depending on how much time I would have, finish with another blowjob. I did not care about having game, chasing women, working the field, finding the perfect ten or that gem. I just wanted to go in to a shop, pick the best girl and get something done. I would be in BKK at the worst time for a bar to be open - 10 am to 4 pm so I knew I wouldn't have much selection to choose from.

    With coffee in hand, I made my way to Soi 8. Stopped at Lolittas and they had a few decent girls outside. A couple caught my eye but I chose the one standing and smoking a cigarette. Paid and went up to the red couches. I was embarrassed by what must have been a terrible smell coming from me and my cloths. I hadn't had a shower in about 36 hours, been in a hot and sweaty place, lots of travelling, sitting in a plane. Surely it wasn't pleasant. Lolitta quickly wiped me down and proceeded to suck me off while I sipped my morning coffee.

    First time this has happened to me at a BJ bar but she wouldn't take off her top. I asked twice and she simply wouldn't take off her shirt. It didn't bother me as I knew I was going to have an epic day anyways. True to my fears, I popped in about 5 minutes and that was only because I was trying hard not to cum and just enjoy my coffee. True to my dirty kinks, I came hard and a lot of cum came gushing out! She was not expecting such volume and had to spit it out halfway through. Boys, let me tell you, it was pure bliss watching her chock on all that cum. Gave her a tip (mostly out of embarrassment of the smell) and proceeded to Chrome Bar.

    On the way to Chrome, stopped and got some fruit for breakfast on the side of the road. Fruit here is so tasty and delicious. I arrived at Chrome at 11 am and there were three girls sitting outside putting on make-up. Two girls ignored me. Fortunately, the prettiest of them started talking to me and telling me it was 2000 for an hour. I told her I wanted the two hours and the VIP room. She looked at me as if I had been here before. I haven't. I have never had a nuru massage before and I was giddy!

    The next two hours were so effing awesome!

    She led me upstairs, showed me the room, turned on the air conditioning and said she would be right back. I changed and put my dirty cloths in my bag and hung up the clean cloths I would wear afterwards. She comes back, gets undressed, I am cracking jokes, she is cracking jokes, we are laughing at the silliest things. She takes me over to the bathroom and there is a big waterproof foam mattress with a similar waterproof block of foam as a pillow that does not look inviting at all. She starts the shower and the water feels so good. Soap goes on and then she goes on me. While we are standing, she is just rubbing her soapy body all over me, grabbing my arms and making me grope her tits. Laughing. I am so thankful I popped at Lolittas before coming here.

    After showering, she makes me lie on the mattress face down and it is surprisingly comfortable. She pours warm water over me and it was erotically and lovingly done. I remember being in pain because I was super hard and lying on my cock but the water being poured on top of my body was so comforting. It was a wonderful feeling and highly recommended for everyone. Then she nuru gels it and starts sliding all over my back, up, down, sideways and is also using her mouth all over the place. Mostly sucking my body but every once in a while, she would bite me with her lips. So erotic! When she turned around and started doing my legs, she placed my left hand on my butt with the palms upward touching her pussy and started rubbing her clit on each of my fingers. She also started saying the nastiest things like "You want to fuck my pussy? Not yet. We do it slow. Not now!" Drove my raging erection straight into the mattress.

    Then the flip, and oh my god! Watching her body slide all over mine was a beautiful thing to see. She nuru'd every part of my body. She interlaced her hand with mine and pulled my arm back and forth across her pussy and then she grabbed each of my fingers, one at a time, and cleaned them in her pussy. She started doing a blowjob for a while, I then asked her to do some more body rubbing over my cock and if she could insert my fingers back in her pussy, blowjob and then a few positions of sex and I finished in doggy. She kept telling me to be careful when I was on top but was pleasantly surprised by how much traction I had on the mattress. After that, she washed me off again and told me to lie on the bed.

    The massage that followed was really good. She asked if everything was ok, I asked her to massage harder and she did. I remember lying there and thinking how lucky I am and how brilliant my plan is proceeding. She gave me a blowjob, we fucked in a few situations and the effects of the long travelling were starting to hit. I was getting tired and didn't have the stamina to keep fucking. She understood, told me to lie back, relax and proceeded to suck me off while she put a finger up my ass. She asked if she could put a second finger up my ass and I said no. I came very soon after that. She cleaned up and then cuddled next to me and we continued talking and more laughing. This girl was very much in charge and would grab my hand and place them on her tits. One last shower and I felt really clean. Gave her a tip and went for a massive lunch and a beer as I hadn't had any dinner or breakfast on the plane.

    After a delicious Thai lunch with a Chang beer, I made my way over to Kasalong. It was now a little after 2 pm. There were 8, 9 girls out front. Why is it that the girl that you definitely don't want to get a BJ from is the one acting like she is going to suck you off and therefore none of the other girls should make any attempt. Saw a couple of girls that I liked of to the side and both were talking to each other. I asked if one of them wanted to join me instead and she agreed. Went in, paid, went upstairs and got sucked. It was a nice long relaxed blowjob and I really wanted to stay longer. We came back downstairs and asked if she wanted to join me for a drink. She very happily accepted and joins me. Her English is okay and we start chatting. After a while, I told her I want another blowjob but I don't know if I could do it because I have to leave to the airport. She pointed to herself for confirmation, I nodded yes and she said "Can!" We talked for a bit, I mentioned her friend she was talking to when I came in and she kept fondling my dick. She asked if her friend can join "Two girl?" I said sure. Her friend joins, I buy her a drink and tell them I will tip them extra if they can make me cum in half an hour, which will be at 3:15 pm. They accept the challenge, we shake hands and they start giggling. They start talking dirty about how much better it would be if all three of us were in a short time hotel and what they would do to me. Their hands are on my cock and I am busy rubbing their pussies and tits.

    We go upstairs as time is ticking. They start licking and I am smiling. I finally blow my load and it's before 3:15. Everyone is happy. I am ecstatic that I had the energy and stamina to do this, they are giggling with happiness about the tips. High five all the way around.

    The return trip to the airport takes longer than I anticipate and get to the airport at quarter after four. Go through the various line ups at the airport and make my way to the boarding gate with half an hour to spare.

    Tips for a short layover.

    1. If it's your first time to BKK, you can do it. You do need to read the forum for the last 100 pages or so, be familiar with where you want to go and the prices. This place is changing so you need to know what is still open and what the going rates are. Also, learn how to use the Forums "Search" function.

    2. If it's your first time to BKK and you just want a sample of this beautiful hobby in this wonderful city, don't bother asking for tips or suggestions from other members as to where's the best place to go. Their opinions are no different than what's already on the forum. There are many options but it's your fantasy.

    3. Have plenty of money for what you want to do. If you are here for a short time, pamper yourself. I am not saying to be wasteful with your money but if you find a place / girl that you like, go for two girls and it's okay to blow your budget a little bit. Have fun in your very short time but keep track of how much you are spending. If you are buying drinks, just make sure you look at your bills.

    4. Have an idea of the exchange rates. The rates that you get at the airport will be significantly worse than what you can get in town.

    5. Determine transportation from and to the airport. With all the transportation issues and line ups at the airport counter, immigration, security, passport control, I think you need to leave Sukhumvit a minimum three hours before your flights departure time. Anything less and it will be very rushed. If you don't have to check in or buy souvenirs from Duty Free or anything else, then you can comfortably do it in less time. There is a Report of Distinction by a Senior Member from a couple of years ago who was able to get downtown and back to the airport in a four hour layover. You need balls of steel to do that! Check out that report as there are some good tips to make your trip efficient.

    6. Depending on the time you show up, the selection of girls at the bars may not be great. Knowing that, set your expectations accordingly.

    7. If you have a layover in BKK, chances are you have probably been travelling for a while and are fatigued. I had some Cialis in my bag in case I was too tired but hate taking it as it gives me a headache and I really didn't want to get on another plane with a painful headache. Thank fully I didn't need it on this trip but you may want to consider having something nearby if you need it.

    8. Have a game plan before you land. A short layover is perfect for a sprint. Whether you are trying to get as many pops in as possible or trying to do as much as you can in the time allotted, this is a sprint and you need to be a rockstar. Having a plan will help if you get to a location and for whatever reason. The girls are ugly, they have no ice cold beer, the only pretty girl looks like a lady boy. Whatever, just skip this location and go to the next one on your list.

  8. #44803

    Mongers take notice.

    http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/c...-seized-275931

    A cautionary tale for all.

    Always be really careful where you stick your peepee.

  9. #44802
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    Because the minute someone claims to have a great time with a really pretty white skinned young girl, instantly he is called a liar, a fake and a troll. But with a hag, of course it is believable. Why?
    I was actually referring to our Asian brethren.

  10. #44801
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    For many folks paying a lot is a source of pride. It is something they can brag about to their friends. Hey, I had this white skinned gal and I paid XX, XXX. Ooo! The friends exclaim. Nothing about the quality of the experience but just priority on looks and monetary amount. Shame but that is the changing culture of P4 P in BKK.
    Because the minute someone claims to have a great time with a really pretty white skinned young girl, instantly he is called a liar, a fake and a troll. But with a hag, of course it is believable. Why?

  11. #44800
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    True CIM and even CIB for me, is just something an urge created by porn. I never really saw much of porn, so I never needs CIM or similar needs.
    CIM is supposed to mimic CIP and I guarantee it feels massively different especially if they maintain their technique through completion and a tad beyond. What she does with the little swimmers is some porn induced bullshiggidy. CIM when done by the correct provider worth the 50 euros just not in this market.

  12. #44799
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I think you are in the wrong thread here. However yes they charge 50 Euros extra for CIM, and that does not include swallowing. You tricked yourself really. The girl knows very well she will get 50 without swallowing.

    Maybe another 50 and she might agree. Yes CIM is hardly worth 50. To me, swallow or not is totally immaterial. Its just Psychology or brain washing in your head. You feel nothing physically.

    Take your CIM here in Thailand for no extra charge at a PSE or BJ shop, from a non stunning girl, and offer her a tip to swallow. Won't cost you an arm and a leg.
    True CIM and even CIB for me, is just something an urge created by porn. I never really saw much of porn, so I never needs CIM or similar needs.

  13. #44798

    Tricked myself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I think you are in the wrong thread here. However yes they charge 50 Euros extra for CIM, and that does not include swallowing. You tricked yourself really. The girl knows very well she will get 50 without swallowing.

    Maybe another 50 and she might agree. Yes CIM is hardly worth 50. To me, swallow or not is totally immaterial. Its just Psychology or brain washing in your head. You feel nothing physically.

    Take your CIM here in Thailand for no extra charge at a PSE or BJ shop, from a non stunning girl, and offer her a tip to swallow. Won't cost you an arm and a leg.
    I don't think so, we had a clear verbal agreement, I always do what I promise.

    How is me expecting WGs to keep up their end of our verbal contract / agreement tricking myself?

    Sounds like a case of blaming the victim (I got ripped off and its my fault but the Frankfurt FKKs are being ruined by tourists / that's why WGs do shit like this there and BKK etc).

    She didn't ask for more 2 swallow, she said yes yes yes!

    Psychology? Brain washing?

    Swallowing is not much different from very hot 18 yo WGs eating my ass like a porn star.

    I don't feel much physically but psychologically I get sated.

    I think there's a big difference between swallowing and spitting on the floor.

    Its probably why I love to CIP.

    Ill be 52 and have never pulled out in my life.

    Are you going to say there's no difference between CIP.

    And jacking off on the girls stomach or ass.

  14. #44797

    Btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    For many folks paying a lot is a source of pride. It is something they can brag about to their friends. Hey, I had this white skinned gal and I paid XX, XXX. Ooo! The friends exclaim. Nothing about the quality of the experience but just priority on looks and monetary amount. Shame but that is the changing culture of P4 P in BKK.
    She keeps texting if she can see me LOL.

  15. #44796
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    For many folks paying a lot is a source of pride. It is something they can brag about to their friends. Hey, I had this white skinned gal and I paid XX, XXX. Ooo! The friends exclaim. Nothing about the quality of the experience but just priority on looks and monetary amount. Shame but that is the changing culture of P4 P in BKK.
    I don't buy it.

    I feel guys pay as little as they think they can get away with.

    I feel there is a direct correlation between, the price ones willing to pay vs self esteem / respect (and no this is definitely not a case of correlation does not equal causation).

    Just like married guys.

    There might be a couple outliers but 99% of married guys are as faithful as their options.

    This is pretty much the same case.

    I am Lilly white my best friend is Asian, he says most Asians are very very frugal, OK.

    So why the sudden seismic change when dealing with a hooker?

    Why does an Asian guy (same age weight etc) in AC gladly pay 10 x or 20 x what I will pay for the same girl?

    We both have 20000 pesos in our wallet.

    He will pay 5000-10000.

    I will pay 500-1000.

    How do I know, I go in very Asian venues here and some girls quote me 5000,7000, 10000.

    Of course I laugh them away.

    10000 for 24 hrs I say no thanks.

    I can get 10-20 very hot 18 yo for that amount (a whole jeepney full LOL).

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