Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

5 Star bar has had changes, since the take over by Crazy House. Initially it struggled badly and had useless Coyotes as well as standard Gogo girls. The Coyotes are now all gone to Tilac etc.

The bar is now somewhat like the old Sheba and old Suzie Wong. 15 to 20 naked girl dances, raunchy, all facing the audience so pussies on display, maybe a bit too much pussy hair on some. Some uglies, and some slim girls, mostly all natural. Girls naked on guys laps, getting groped. Pussy touching allowed. Catering to a mainly Farang Expat set of customers same as Suzie Wong was. Dtom ex Suzie Wong, works at 5 Star now. There maybe others. Some ex crazy House girls likely. Skinny LB mamasan used to be waitress at Crazy House. I forget the name.

Serving staff at 5 Star maybe a bit light on, on a busy night like Friday, just 2 or 3. At least 2 mamasans though.

However that is only part of the story. Out front they have Post Op (I'm told, did not check) lady boy hostesses. The LBs never get naked nor go on the stage. When Asian customers come into the shop, the LBs make a beeline for them. I don't see the LBs bothering the Farang Expats at all. Asian customers seem happy enough to play with the lady boys on their lap etc. Not clear if they all know they have LBs, as some are quite pretty. I guess they should know. The LBs make very exaggerated model posing movements not typical of real girls. So for Asian guys who don't like LBs, they would find this bar annoying maybe. The Farangs in there can easily ignore the LBs completely, no hassles. I don't know if many Asian guys BF the LB and go fuck an artificial pussy or take the ass or merely take BBBJ. Rates of barfining may not be that high in here. Many guys come in and drinks and fool around and that's it. I would not bother, if not wanting to take a girl, most likely.

Last night had two naked slim girls, both with small tits, friends of each other sitting with me. Waew and Jup Jaeng. Pussy touching was allowed, I did not try to get too nasty in the bar. Tempted to take both of them, but took Waew LT instead. Girls with bigger tits do exist there. Usually not the most important thing for me. Face, ass, pussy, legs and waist, and natural (non weird body shapes) all have higher priority than tits for me, and skin colour is very low priority. All my girls tend to have very smooth skin, since hairy arms puts me off.

Muslim girl in 7 Eleven served me today with Hijab head cover, light skin on face (with makeup), but her arms were more hairy than mine. I could not do a girl like that I think. Pussy Bush and thighs likely to be very hairy too. My Thai GF has extremely low body hair such that never notice it. Even her pussy has only wispy hair up top like a mustache. We get used to hookers with bald pussy and low body hair so it is not that sexy to be hairy for a girl.

There are no shows in 5 Star. That is a big departure from Suzie Wong style too. They used to have car alarm music, but I noticed the music includes actual pop songs these days, e. G. Titanium (by Sia), just to name one I remember now, so that is a big improvement for me. Probably means they changed the DJ.

So I am basically recommending this bar for Expat guys who used to like Suzie Wong and Sheba, and don't mind a few LBs hanging around. One can ignore the LBs entirely. Have not checked out Kozy upstairs at Old Dutch affiliated with Crazy H, as yet. Last visit to Crazy House saw 2 or 3 girls I would rate as doable, meaning the vast majority were not of interest to me, due to either plain faces or too much surgeries, for the most part. Maybe I prefer the smaller more intimate 5 Star now as is catering specifically for Farangs, where Crazy House tries to cater for every nationality of customer. Can't say that 5 Star has any absolute stunners though (used to have one), where you can't take your eyes off them. Same like Suzie W had a shortage of stunners also, but some very nice girls.

Although Suzie Wong is still open, I don't go there any more. Did not like the new management sent in by Bacarra. The drunk mamasan with mohawk was too much to bear. Almost all the old Suzie girls could not stand it and left too. Lighthouse sister bar to Shark maybe okay Did not check it recently. Doll House may have some nice girls, it has always been changing a lot.

[OrientalLover]

Today Wednesday went to NANA plaza. Looked at few of the bars finally settled into Billboard.

Last night went to Billboard again. Could not find #28 selected another girl from the bathtub. She was almost good as mai but not quite.

Two for two interns of good time from Billboard ladies during this trip.

Have plan to see one of my regulars today an ex P4P girl. Back home tomorrow.

[CzarNicholas]

Last night took a bargirl LT, from 5 Star (Cowboy), a tan skinned Isaan girl, all natural other than makeup, doubtless not your taste, but okay For many Farang Expats. Cute for me. Moderately tall, very nice ass and pussy. Very good waist (small) to thigh ratio making very her curvy. However there was no price negotiation, nor was there for previous bookings ST. This is good for me, since allows me to pay what I think the girl was worth, allowing for attitude, enthusiasm, Cooperation levels. This is usually is possible in bars where well known by certain girls, or when not appearing stingy to buy the girl drinks.

Once the girl likes the customer, that is a big help. I am not really trying to negotiate to bottom dollar the girl will take, I pay more related to effort and performance, with stunners clearly to get a premium price. If pay a girl fairly, they are always keen to repeat. If pay too low to suit how hard she had to work, she may pass next time. Trying to underpay stunners who can get customers very easily, probably does not work.

What kind of service? Any full body condoms? How many hours? Pops?

What was her age?

How many babies?

Did you tip also.

I think your age is helpful and the WGs age.

Because I think its relevant.

Lets be honest, I'll be 52 soon.

If I'm drilling a 18 yo with no babies BBFS / pse.

That can affect what I will pay.

Compared to what I would pay if I was still 18 yo.

Funny story, I do use Viagra and Cialis.

But a 18 yo WG walked in my place and saw some blue alleve pills on the counter and says you use Viagra.

I said those are for headaches.

I wanted to say.

Yes I do, because I'm old enough to be your grandfather, as a matter of fact I'm probably older than your grandfather LOL (that is if he is even still alive) I'm guessing the life expectancy isn't very high in Angeles city.

[Syzygies]

This is the right answer imo. If you are talking about a top girl who is barfined on every single night then yes she can demand top dollar but if it's a gogo or bar girl who is average looking and lucky to be barfined once or twice a week we all should be negotiating. It's our money and we have the power. 2 k is a lot to some girls and not to others who can make 2 k by just sitting in a bar ordering lady drinks all night.

Last night took a bargirl LT, from 5 Star (Cowboy), a tan skinned Isaan girl, all natural other than makeup, doubtless not your taste, but okay For many Farang Expats. Cute for me. Moderately tall, very nice ass and pussy. Very good waist (small) to thigh ratio making very her curvy. However there was no price negotiation, nor was there for previous bookings ST. This is good for me, since allows me to pay what I think the girl was worth, allowing for attitude, enthusiasm, Cooperation levels. This is usually is possible in bars where well known by certain girls, or when not appearing stingy to buy the girl drinks.

Once the girl likes the customer, that is a big help. I am not really trying to negotiate to bottom dollar the girl will take, I pay more related to effort and performance, with stunners clearly to get a premium price. If pay a girl fairly, they are always keen to repeat. If pay too low to suit how hard she had to work, she may pass next time. Trying to underpay stunners who can get customers very easily, probably does not work.

[Franciscass]

I broke my phone.

I have another phone.

I really need to get my contact list.

I don't remember using an email address at setup.

I'm using a google fi sim.

I really need my contact list.

There isn't anyway to chat with LINE.

I can't figure this out.

Ill pay for a massage on soi 4 in a couple of weeks if anyone can help me retrieve my contact list.

Many thanks.

If your sim card is not damaged check it on your replacement it may have your contacts stored, if its damaged depending on your supplier you may be able to replace it.

[Banana Boi]

If girl is hot enough I have no problem paying 3. 5 k for st and 5 k for LT, plus tip. But if girl if so so, I know she most of times get around 1. 5 to 2 k, so I just counter it, and they always accept instantly. Trick is knowing who you're negotiating with.

This is the right answer imo. If you are talking about a top girl who is barfined on every single night then yes she can demand top dollar but if it's a gogo or bar girl who is average looking and lucky to be barfined once or twice a week we all should be negotiating. It's our money and we have the power. 2 k is a lot to some girls and not to others who can make 2 k by just sitting in a bar ordering lady drinks all night.

[CzarNicholas]

Good report Nik.

Here are my 2 cents. I'm Indian myself and unfortunately notice lots of Indians acting little irresponsibly, but so does I see people from other nationality. But because of 1. 3 be population, it's easier to get highlighted. Won't go too deep into it, every person's actions are their own responsibility, and if someone can spend enough and can behave well, there is no shortage of good pussy. Yes, you might not be allowed in some specific bar, but that's not end of the world. I get great chicks every week, but also get rejected by some just because I am brown. But does it stop me from finding it hotter chick than her, hell no..

I get rejected 24/7 because I'm super white lmao.

Blonde hair blue eyes and big dick.

I think certain guys try to "win" by overpaying more than market price (my response is to say fuck you and only pay less).

They don't "win" shit except title and reputation as desperate men that will pay any price for any service.

And they destroy the economics of the whole system.

Quintessential Pyrrhic victory!

In FKKland European men see it as a competition.

Men vs the WGs.

Outsiders come in and fuck that all up.

They want to overpay and turn it into a competition, monger vs monger.

Their pay any price mentality vs the local guys mentality which have kept the price the same for 20-30 yrs.

This is the definition of stupidity.

They will come in, destroy a system and claim "Victory".

This can be seen in Angeles city also.

Tijuana also.

The hookers and brothel owners win.

Mongers lose all day long.

3500 plus drinks.

For a 3rd world hooker.

In Angeles is retarded.

That's a months pay for the avg worker here.

I have a question? Does anyone think a months pay is not too much?

[Gargano19]

I hate to be next to Farangs, who won't sit down, jumping around partying right in front or next to me (possibly drunk), or with seriously potent under arm stench. Same for Indians, Arabs, Afrikans, whatever. So it is not a question of where they come from at all. It is the individual regardless of origin. We hear that Indians, generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price, and for a being a problem in the bar, perhaps denying they they consumed the drinks listed, etc. A girl on Soi 4 has asking price 1300. She tells me Indians are trying to get 500 Baht or less. She is not interested to even talk to them. These things are really totally irrelevant to me, other than I asked how come she knocks many guys. I don't have to negotiate prices with Indians for anything.

There is no put down for Indians, I have worked with some great character Indians used to western ways, at least in the work environment. I did think it was funny at one computing site in Europe, that maybe 90% of the Indians (males) had mustaches but not beards. Seemed to be a level of conformity. However I noticed that tourists groups from Italy or Spain, young local Turkish guys, etc. Also had a very high level of conformity in haircuts and beards. I guess guys have to follow the fashions. Not me though.

Generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price?

Seriously?

So mongers should agree to any asking price?

Is metoo# penetrating the forums.

I'm sure feminists would agree with this sentiment? Show of hands please how many feminists, do we have on this thread?

And BTW always wear a full body condom!

A girl tells me 2000 I think OK lets counter offer 500.

She can say any number why can't I.

Reminds me of Kojak in Manila last month.

I asked Amy the mamasan the prices.

She said 4000 BF 6000 minimum tip for the girl, I started laughing.

Standing up 2 leave.

And she added if you don't buy drinks we add them to the BF.

I continued to laugh as I stood up and walked out.

What kind of fools fall for that, she can go higher but you can't go lower.

I have a better idea, you suck my dick and pay me!

Realmenneveroverpay#.

Good report Nik.

Here are my 2 cents. I'm Indian myself and unfortunately notice lots of Indians acting little irresponsibly, but so does I see people from other nationality. But because of 1. 3 be population, it's easier to get highlighted. Won't go too deep into it, every person's actions are their own responsibility, and if someone can spend enough and can behave well, there is no shortage of good pussy. Yes, you might not be allowed in some specific bar, but that's not end of the world. I get great chicks every week, but also get rejected by some just because I am brown. But does it stop me from finding it hotter chick than her, hell no.

Regarding, price negotiation, we should negotiate it if price thrown is unrealistic, but some people try to negotiate it even on base line charges, and sometimes try too hard. That is off-putting. For those people, just freaking make more money. If girl is hot enough I have no problem paying 3. 5 k for st and 5 k for LT, plus tip. But if girl if so so, I know she most of times get around 1. 5 to 2 k, so I just counter it, and they always accept instantly.

Trick is knowing who you're negotiating with.

[CzarNicholas]

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I emailed them.

They told me I'm shit out of luck.

[HorseTrader]

I broke my phone.

I have another phone.

I really need to get my contact list.

I don't remember using an email address at setup.

I'm using a google fi sim.

I really need my contact list.

There isn't anyway to chat with LINE.

I can't figure this out.

Ill pay for a massage on soi 4 in a couple of weeks if anyone can help me retrieve my contact list.

Many thanks.

Take a look at this link:

https://help.line.me/line/ios/catego...012/pc?lang=en

Then search on "lost phone"

[Pekkakoo]

What are the best (or only) options for seeing girls dancing all nude in Soi Cowboy / Nana / Patpong these days? I know Crazy House is one but it was last time almost filled with Japs smoking on the first row and impossible to find a good seat. Or maybe I should just go there earlier? I used to like Suzie Wong and talk nicely to their ladyboy mamasan about girls but it was years ago and now that palce has probably changed too. Maybe in Nana there is something nude going but I have never liked Nana vibe. Always too many ladyboys there and expensive average looking bikini girls but maybe some unknown small bars around there?

[Pekkakoo]

Simple rule. Never talk to those taxi guys waiting at the end of Soi Cowboy. If I want a taxi, I always hail one driving past. You will get a meter or a better deal. Parked taxis on Sukhumwvit road near to Soi 23 are okay As long as driver does not get out of the vehicle.

Any guys that approaches you is to be avoided. That is the golden rule. We approach them when we want something.

I don't pay bargirls up front, but that is because I am scared they won't go through with the deal to fuck. Had a recent occurrence of that. Still wasted the barfine, drinks and her french fries. I don't pay to enter Crazy House because I am known there. The mamasans know me too so would not ask me to pay upfront. It is known I am trustworthy. Dare I say that some nationalities in particular may have a reputation for not paying the girl after the deed is done, in a percentage of cases. There are guys looking for a freebie, and claim not to have money afterwards. Girls I know have been burned too many times.

Also those taxis driving past soi 4 often especially late at night ask for a fixed price. I asked a few in thai language and asked them to use meter but they responded that they can't. The girl with me told me that I should tell them that I call police if they refuse meter. But this is Thailand. Maybe better just walk to Sukh Road but of course there are these cheater taxis too. In Manila some taxis waiting close to malls don't even have a meter installed in the car. I guess that must be illegal but maybe calling the corrupt police in these Asian countries might not work.

[CzarNicholas]

I broke my phone.

I have another phone.

I really need to get my contact list.

I don't remember using an email address at setup.

I'm using a google fi sim.

I really need my contact list.

There isn't anyway to chat with LINE.

I can't figure this out.

Ill pay for a massage on soi 4 in a couple of weeks if anyone can help me retrieve my contact list.

Many thanks.

[CzarNicholas]

I hate to be next to Farangs, who won't sit down, jumping around partying right in front or next to me (possibly drunk), or with seriously potent under arm stench. Same for Indians, Arabs, Afrikans, whatever. So it is not a question of where they come from at all. It is the individual regardless of origin. We hear that Indians, generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price, and for a being a problem in the bar, perhaps denying they they consumed the drinks listed, etc. A girl on Soi 4 has asking price 1300. She tells me Indians are trying to get 500 Baht or less. She is not interested to even talk to them. These things are really totally irrelevant to me, other than I asked how come she knocks many guys. I don't have to negotiate prices with Indians for anything.

There is no put down for Indians, I have worked with some great character Indians used to western ways, at least in the work environment. I did think it was funny at one computing site in Europe, that maybe 90% of the Indians (males) had mustaches but not beards. Seemed to be a level of conformity. However I noticed that tourists groups from Italy or Spain, young local Turkish guys, etc. Also had a very high level of conformity in haircuts and beards. I guess guys have to follow the fashions. Not me though.

Generally have a bad reputation, for always wanting to pay less than the asking price?

Seriously?

So mongers should agree to any asking price?

Is metoo# penetrating the forums.

I'm sure feminists would agree with this sentiment? Show of hands please how many feminists, do we have on this thread?

And BTW always wear a full body condom!

A girl tells me 2000 I think OK lets counter offer 500.

She can say any number why can't I.

Reminds me of Kojak in Manila last month.

I asked Amy the mamasan the prices.

She said 4000 BF 6000 minimum tip for the girl, I started laughing.

Standing up 2 leave.

And she added if you don't buy drinks we add them to the BF.

I continued to laugh as I stood up and walked out.

What kind of fools fall for that, she can go higher but you can't go lower.

I have a better idea, you suck my dick and pay me!

Realmenneveroverpay#.

[Syzygies]

Those Taxi mafia bastards want 200 baht for the ride. It was same yesterday from Nana plaza he wanted 100 baht. Again not to cause a scene I paid 200 baht. What do you guys do with these Taxi mafia? Do you just go to the sort time hotel or you just pay them what ever those bastards ask.

Simple rule. Never talk to those taxi guys waiting at the end of Soi Cowboy. If I want a taxi, I always hail one driving past. You will get a meter or a better deal. Parked taxis on Sukhumwvit road near to Soi 23 are okay As long as driver does not get out of the vehicle.

Any guys that approaches you is to be avoided. That is the golden rule. We approach them when we want something.

I don't pay bargirls up front, but that is because I am scared they won't go through with the deal to fuck. Had a recent occurrence of that. Still wasted the barfine, drinks and her french fries. I don't pay to enter Crazy House because I am known there. The mamasans know me too so would not ask me to pay upfront. It is known I am trustworthy. Dare I say that some nationalities in particular may have a reputation for not paying the girl after the deed is done, in a percentage of cases. There are guys looking for a freebie, and claim not to have money afterwards. Girls I know have been burned too many times.