Bangkok Reports

[IMembr]

Gents (Tooms, Catire, IMembr, Blanq, Natty, Syzygies, Jsxyz).

Thank you.

Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, experiences, advice and the precautions you guys take. It's immensely helpful and I'm glad you guys do take some sort of safety measures.

In total, there were 5 girls in Pattaya (all TF girls) and 3 in Bkk (2 Kapoo and 1 TF) that I encountered with that overwhelming foul fishy smell. That was 8 out of the 23 girls I fucked on that trip, so that's the reason I asked. And it wasn't that period smell, or that natural strong vag juice smell, this was the thrush, bacteria built up, you got some serious problems smell, which concerned me. At one point in Pattaya, after 3 consecutive girls had that issue, I thought the fucking condoms were scented that way. But from what I gather from you guys years of experiences, it was probably a rarity and my bad luck..

Then again Pattaya is a bit of a cesspool but regardless it sounds like bad luck. Never had it happen, but horrible luck would be being on a holiday for 1-2 weeks or a month and having to take antibiotics for 3 to 5 days waiting for something to clear while having given the girl 1000-3000 baht. That would derail a trip. If one participated with gogos, then the BBFS route may be enticing.

[EihTooms]

I'm a come on not come in person as well when it comes to FS. CIM though for oral.

Wow. Shades of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." LOL. I had no idea there were so many Cum On rather than Cum In punters in my midst. My BBFS+CIP ways seem to be more and more unremarkable and conventional all the time.

[Goatscrot]

Smoothy, I was just wondering if it is fairly well known among some of the girls in the bars you mentioned and/or do you generally mention to the girl upfront what your interests are with regard to pulling out or engaging in oral sex only to the point of your orgasm and then quickly shifting to a Cum On Face or Cum On Body finish. If so, it seems to me that would go a long way to encountering many more girls who will not make nearly as big a deal about you wearing a condom as when the girl assumes the bareback punter would go all the way to a CIP finish.

I'm a come on not come in person as well when it comes to FS. CIM though for oral.

[Siamsin]

Gents (Tooms, Catire, IMembr, Blanq, Natty, Syzygies, Jsxyz).

Thank you.

Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, experiences, advice and the precautions you guys take. It's immensely helpful and I'm glad you guys do take some sort of safety measures.

In total, there were 5 girls in Pattaya (all TF girls) and 3 in Bkk (2 Kapoo and 1 TF) that I encountered with that overwhelming foul fishy smell. That was 8 out of the 23 girls I fucked on that trip, so that's the reason I asked. And it wasn't that period smell, or that natural strong vag juice smell, this was the thrush, bacteria built up, you got some serious problems smell, which concerned me. At one point in Pattaya, after 3 consecutive girls had that issue, I thought the fucking condoms were scented that way. But from what I gather from you guys years of experiences, it was probably a rarity and my bad luck.

Personally, I'm not circumcised nor do I have a vasectomy. But from my initial BB sexual encounters at age 16 with a long time GF, I got into the habit from that age to whip it out before CIP, and usually cum on belly, tits, ass, thighs etc. I continued that routine throughout my life with all my GF's and a few 1 night stands thereafter, with just a few slip ups along the way. Fortunately, I'm still not a dad. I guess, I'd only consider BBFS with a GF type, non-pro, or possibly with a repeat after the checks are done.

Thanks again for the honest responses chaps, you guys are great.

[Turgid]

...........LOL. Hell, I hated and resented having to masturbate when there were few other financially viable and agreeable options back in the USA. ...............

Unlike many of you guys on this board when I was somewhat impecunious many years ago I had occasion to session some really horrible items in the US. Every so often I had the choice of repeating and I found masturbation to be a more enjoyable option.

[EihTooms]

Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.

The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?

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- I have been barebacking with thousands of different girls from around the world, mostly P4P, for 45+ years and have only gotten 1 dose of easily treatable trichomonas. Got it from a non pro university girlfriend when I was 19 years old. Took one pill for each of the next 4-5 days and it was gone. As of about 4-5 months ago when I got a thorough blood check and full medical check up for just about everything imaginable, I was free of any communicable disease and no sign of an infectious disease. But, according to the doctor, I should "eat more red meat and cut down on sweets" in order to lower my bad cholesterol level. On the other hand, my good cholesterol level kind of makes it a wash. LOL. That is not a testimonial for the "safety" of barebacking. Just stating my experience and condition.

Possible contributing factors to my near total lack of catching anything along the way are that I don't generally engage in prolonged, rough and ramming kind of sex I sometimes hear about and read about on these forums, the kind that could easily cause skin abrasions and entry points for whatever. Oh, I'll go for an hour or more if I feel like it. But it is always going to be extremely well lubed (natural lube, not from a tube) and, well, relatively gentle I suppose. Works for me. If it doesn't work for the girl, I will probably not be seeing her very often anyway. Also, I always roll out of bed to wash off in the shower and "take a leak" within minutes of finishing, giving little bugs less time to grow and spread I guess. Oh, and I was circumcised as an infant.

- I would not bareback as I do if I had not gotten a vasectomy decades ago and if I did not always have a recent negative/normal/non-reactive blood check document for HIV testing from a reputable clinic to show anyone interested in seeing it or simply for me to know about myself. I also get checked for other STIs, including syphilis. I get the test done every 1-2 months at Thai Red Cross, just off the Ratchedamri BTS station of the Silom Line. 200 baht for the HIV test and 200 baht for the additional STI/syphilis test. Takes about 90 minutes from walking into the clinic to walking out with the document. Bring your original passport if you want a printed result document with your name on it.

Btw, regular or return visitors should know they are now working right through the previous Lunch Break hour of 12Noon to 1PM, although I am sure they stagger the staff for a couple of hours midday in order to provide a break for everyone on the staff. That means you don't have to worry so much about showing up at 11AM or thereabouts where the 12Noon break would stop everything cold for another hour and add to the wait time as it used to in the past. They don't do it that way anymore, which is nice.

I fully understand the limitations of such testing. But it is better than going bareback and knowing virtually nothing about your health status year after year. Considering the well known ways it is contracted, I see no reason for me to think I will ever get HIV. I get the test and document to show anyone who is worried about it before barebacking with me. That is rarely required or asked for. But I like to have a document just in case.

- Like others here, I can't say I run into many extremely smelly pussies in Thailand or, for that matter, in other places I have mongered. However, I do encounter some pussies that smell funkier than others. I usually write that off as a dietary issue or simply the girl's body chemistry. Not a big deal to me. It has only rarely stopped me from launching into DATY and, almost always, whatever slight funky odor was there will get washed away with the flow of her natural lubrication. I honestly can't remember a girl's funky smelling pussy getting smellier and funkier as the DATY progressed. But I have begged off and changed the subject 2-3 times in my 45+ years of having sex due to a worrying odor. Which would represent a small fraction of 1 percent of my partners.

[EihTooms]

Yes, I agree with that list. Rawhide used to be on the list as well, but I hear it was purchased by the Arab, so that place is now going to be crap.

Smoothy, I was just wondering if it is fairly well known among some of the girls in the bars you mentioned and/or do you generally mention to the girl upfront what your interests are with regard to pulling out or engaging in oral sex only to the point of your orgasm and then quickly shifting to a Cum On Face or Cum On Body finish. If so, it seems to me that would go a long way to encountering many more girls who will not make nearly as big a deal about you wearing a condom as when the girl assumes the bareback punter would go all the way to a CIP finish.

[Catire]

Now I'm not sure if these foul smells are STD or UTI related, but I do know that a single test can't be carried out for all types of infections. Usually a specific STD test is required to test for the related symptoms.

Inputs from you guys will be appreciated.

Can't remember the last time I had strong vaginal odor on a Thai girl. I do tend to zig when choosing girls when others are zagging. Maybe just been lucky. Had a little scent the other night when I fucked a non pro and she had an orgasm. Then it disappeared. (when I went down on her, no scent whatsoever. When she came there was a little scent. just a whiff of one).

If I'd encounter a scent. Same as other guys. Politely end encounter, pay her.

Re bb, I get tested and bring oraquik kits. Am circumcised and never finish inside (this always lessens risk for girl in a big way as well, beyond mere pregnancy).

Will almost never go bb with any streetgirl. Also the older and more "experienced in trade) she looks, the more reticent I will be to go bb.

Tend to do bb just w / tinder girls and bargirls and freelancers from Thermae (actual ones, not the ones I see every night).

Last year a woman I met off Tinder who tested positive (I posted about it here). She was older (looked younger) and had been in the game for a while (another reason I've become more age sensitive with girls in the game but I did not fully realize how deeply she was in the game in beginning). I paid her, told her to go see a doctor (she tested pos there again, is on meds now, doing ok, we have stayed in touch). Tragedy for her, mini tragedy for me, as she was an amazing sexual partner, was up for anal, completely got into and then orgasmed while we were at it. (those kind of women qualify as sexual keepers). I really wish I could see her again. but alas..

[Syzygies]

Yes I use the word bars plural.

It appears that the new Kazy downstairs is not affiliated with Crazy House, so much. That might explain the huge difference in style. Different owners might be sharing the same location, each taking different levels. When I first came to Cowboy in 1991, I frequented Midnight Upstairs which was unrelated to the downstairs bar. The location is still called Midnight today (both levels I guess), but now has a Ladyboy bar between it and Doll House.

Kozy is the new Crazy House bar upstairs but not yet opened. I expect it to be a lot more raunchy than Kazy at a guess. Will it be a Karaoke club too, I not 100% sure? If so it might be mainly targeting Asian customers. So for those who like raunchy bars, might be better to look in Kozy when it opens. I will look myself, just in case they manage to make it anything like the original Crazy House, when it opened. That was good. Lots of hot girls dancing nude. Perhaps it won't be that at all.

Also now owned by Crazy House Management is Five Star. It has a lot of naked dancers. All girls. 4 of the girls are ex Suzie Wong. Milfs not exactly stunning. One on them is named "Dtom", a skinny MILF as yet no baby so very tight pussy. Very small tits. One buddy on the forum will want to visit her for sure. Tonight she was a bit overly drunk however that was not normal in her Suzie Wong days. I believe she was in "Enter" at Nana Plaza for a while. There is a close link between Dtom and Knot at Suzie Wong and Knot was one of my ex favourites but she has retired to have a family. Dtom was an expert pussy licker in Lesbian shows but 5 Star does not have that, at least not yet. In the modern day I take Knot's younger sister Pat at Shark (also ex Suzie). Looks like the ladyboys that came to 5 star are now confined to be PR "girls" sitting outside, but the dancers inside are all real girls.

All the girls from Suzie's old management have probably moved on. So the new Suzie W under Baccarat management is nothing like the old Suzie W I think. I don't go there any more at all, and hardly went to Suzie once Crazy House first opened, and a certain Suzie girl retired.

[IMembr]

Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.

The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?

I recall an ex GF who I use to BBFS with, had a case of thrush which caused a foul odor. She had a check up with gynae who prescribed the required antibiotics, ointments etc. After treatment was over and everything returned to normal, we continued to engage in BBFS, but she got it again. The doc then advised that I probably picked up the infection from her initially and after intercourse when her treatment was complete, she got it again. I had to go on treatment for a couple weeks to ensure that shit was cured. Ever since, I always monger with a cock sock..

As you know, it's always best to put on the raincoat so to speak. I've only had 2 experiences really of going BBFS regularly, but we had our blood tested at the Red Cross for a few hundred Baht. The first, she followed me around Thailand to various beach resorts. The 2nd, was when the thought of a holiday girlfriend was appealing after the first experience. Variety is king though. BBBJ + CIM or finishing in the cover is fine, but everyone is different. When a smell is noticed, usually just give 200 baht and have them leave. The clinics take longer to get results versus the anonymous testing at the Red Cross. GoGo girls are viewed as safer since it is said they test regularly, but how often that is enforced is something else. Even if a test is done, no one know what else is brewing there just as you experienced with your ex. If BBFS was the goal, the GoGo route is the most appealing even if it costs a premium.

[IMembr]

I may have been conditioned by those pornos, I admit I have watched a few over the years.

The CIM thing I consider the biggest waste. You can easily pull out and shoot all over her face.

It's a little more effort to pull out of her pussy and cum on her face or body, but not that much. The videos I have where I cum inside the girl, I just delete them because I find them boring. It's extremely sexy to see a girl coated in cum.

Another reason it's better to finish outside is if you want a 2nd round. I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself.

Smoothy, your post made me laugh. It is so completely opposite to my own deeply held feeling that CIM, cum anywhere except in the vagina is a waste of my precious bodily fluids. OK, I will concede that Cuming in a girl's ass hole is good too, although not as good as in her vagina unless her vagina is a cave. 555.

I think this whole take your dick out of her vagina so you can ejaculate on camera is total FAKE Hollywood. Originally it was only done in the porn videos to prove the sex was real. This is made clear in a scene from "Boogie Nights". Then somehow it caught on with a certain segment of the viewing public including YOU. LOL. No offence intended. I get it. You like to watch your own videos.

Anyway, when I am engaging in sexual congress, the last thing I want to do is break the rhythm/ break my feeling of euphoria and pull out to ejaculate during the last few seconds so's I can see my cum shoot all over a girl. Call me old school if you want, but I'm with Bill Clinton on this, it ain't sex if I don't cum in her vagina. (Just paraphrasing good ol' Bill, of course.) Opinions will vary.

Make no mistake, there isn't a wrong answer here. CIP and CIM feel amazing. Giving a facial has great satisfaction too. Pulling out and finishing on the body doesn't do much though but cannot fault it. However, it's cringeworthy when someone posts about finishing with a handjob or having to finish himself which is a total waste of time.

[Blanquiceleste]

Smelly Pussy is a huge turnoff. Thankfully I encounter it very, very rarely with the girls I am attracted to and take back to my place. What do I do "if a girl has a funky smell downstairs?" I terminate the session. No boom boom Me - You. But I still pay her.

Thankfully for me as well, I can count the number of times I have a come across a can of Tuna on the fingers of two hands. A very tiny percentage still.

And the MO is exactly the same. Pay and politely request the girl to leave. With a friendly word to visit a doctor and check things out ASAP.

[Member #4698]

So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?

Smelly Pussy is a huge turnoff. Thankfully I encounter it very, very rarely with the girls I am attracted to and take back to my place. Especially Thai girls. In fact, I can't recall any Thai girl I know with that problem. But I have found smelly pussy although still very rare with a couple of Filipinas and Khmer girls. I still remember a very smelly Khmer girl from Rose Bar in Phnom back in 2009. In general what do I do "if a girl has a funky smell downstairs?" I terminate the session. No boom boom Me - You. But I still pay her.

In the case of that smelly Rose Bar girl, I was kind of stuck because I had taken two girls upstairs for a menage a trois. They still rented out ST room upstairs in Rose Bar back then. Anyway, the other girl was really pretty and ultimately became one of my all-time favorite girls. But that night "smelly" really stunk up the bed. I let her blow me in the beginning while "all time" sat on my face. Then after the 1st round shag with "all time" the two of us only showered again and when we came back to the bed we had a 2nd shag together. I never touched "smelly" the whole time. But when the session was over, I gave both girls their fee plus a tip. I wanted to tip "all time" because she was so good, but I did not want to single her out so I gave "smelly" an equal tip too for doing almost nothing.

A few days later I popped back into the bar and saw both girls sitting by a table. I bought drinks for both girls, but I only took "all time" upstairs for another ST session which included 3 shags in a row. The price for her solo back in 2009 was $20 plus I gave her a $5 tip. I remember the year because later in the Fall the police began raiding the hostess bars and everything in Phnom Penh changed. 2009 was the last golden year of Phnom Penh.

[Syzygies]

Ya, very degrading to have to go shower and wash their face after sex (which they do anyway). It's much less degrading to cum inside their pussy so that they get pregnant and have to raise an illegitimate child the rest of their life in shame. Good ethics there.

Okay I did not think of the Altruistic reasons, although that is my reason, for cum on body as well. However I get no thrill out of it. So does not have to be on the face. Haha.

[Smoothy]

Yes to both. But I have not pulled from Sexy Nights in ages. And I have had considerable success in Billboard, Twister BKK, Enter, Butterflies and Exotica in Nana Plaza, Long Gun, Suzie Wong and Cactus Bar on Soi Cowboy. Although I would not go so far as to suggest ALL the girls in any of those bars you and I mentioned will agree to it with me. Not even close. Only some.

Yes, I agree with that list. Rawhide used to be on the list as well, but I hear it was purchased by the Arab, so that place is now going to be crap.