Bangkok Reports

[Rick Rock]

Ha Ha. You're right and yet this bar is jumpin' every Fri & Sat night. I visit once or twice a year for a little variety, but for a lot of businessmen types it is a very popular bar. The talent performs well in bed and there are a few 30 something lookers there. But I prefer the FL's at CJ's in the Mulla Jakarta and Brix in the Hyatt Singapore as far as 5 * FL Hotel pick up girls go. You might remember Hari's Bar in the Holiday Inn Hong Kong. Hari's used to have amazing talent; hot Korean, Mongolian, and Thai girls, but it went to hell a few years ago. I did not even bother to stop by on my recent layover in HKG. I took a Taiwanese 141 hotel reservaton girl instead. The Wan Chai bars totally sucked filled as they were with way past their due date fat fugly girls. I almost felt sorry for these girls.

I find all of those places are mostly filled with old ladies too aged to hook in their own countries. And the guys always tend to be traveling white business men. Honestly, I have felt both depressed and amazed at what goes on in these "5 star hotel bars" in Asia.

It's really bewildering.

[Member #4698]

Sorry, I should have spelled it out. GND stands for Girl Next Door, I. E. Average looking girl, but definitely fuckable.

I looked it up. I like "cute," wholesome looking, yet naughty girl next door types. Used to see a lot of them in AC. Fresh off the bus. Baby back home with their mother.

[Member #4698]

I was there a few Saturday nights ago. The quality of the girls was outstanding.

My friend and I asked a few real beauties if they were interested. He got one quote at 10 K and another at 6 K. I was offered 3 hours for 6 K. The woman who wanted 10 K was only offering everything covered service.

We ended up leaving and going to Mixx.

10 K is way above the normal range for this particular venue which is usually a very bad sign. Everything covered clinches it. You were wise to walk away. But don't leave us in suspense. How was Mixx?

$200 for a short time with an old lady? Sounds reasonable.

Ha Ha. You're right and yet this bar is jumpin' every Fri & Sat night. I visit once or twice a year for a little variety, but for a lot of businessmen types it is a very popular bar. The talent performs well in bed and there are a few 30 something lookers there. But I prefer the FL's at CJ's in the Mulla Jakarta and Brix in the Hyatt Singapore as far as 5 * FL Hotel pick up girls go. You might remember Hari's Bar in the Holiday Inn Hong Kong. Hari's used to have amazing talent; hot Korean, Mongolian, and Thai girls, but it went to hell a few years ago. I did not even bother to stop by on my recent layover in HKG. I took a Taiwanese 141 hotel reservaton girl instead. The Wan Chai bars totally sucked filled as they were with way past their due date fat fugly girls. I almost felt sorry for these girls.

[Lefeu]

Super report, Lefeu, thanks. I wonder what you mean by GND type. Does that say something about how they are dressed, or their age, or their overall beauty? I mean, Playboy girls were supposed to be GND, but goddam were they fuckable. I assume by GND you mean unfuckable. Anyway, if you could expound on what you found off putting about these girls, I'd be interested.

Sorry, I should have spelled it out. GND stands for Girl Next Door, I. E. Average looking girl, but definitely fuckable.

[Kumbu]

I was there a few Saturday nights ago... We ended up leaving and going to Mixx.

Mm-hmm. Go on. . .

Mixx: any success? Thoughts? Prices?

With thanks,

Your pal, Kumbu.

[Rick Rock]

Do an advanced search. For KeyWord Type: Spasso Hyatt.

Rates for ST are between 4,000 and 6,000 baht. I have never paid more than 5,000 not including a tip for above average service. I have always tipped my Spasso FL's. That should tell you what kind of service I have had in the past. It is very good. Girls are never in a hurry to split, but never pay in advance. No need to buy a girl a drink unless you want to. They have already bought a drink to gain admission and are nursing it for the night. Live Band on Thurs, Fri and Sat nights. The average age is around 30 something. That is the only negative as far as I am concerned although I enjoy a 30 something girl once in a while as long as she is still put together nicely. It is like they try harder because they know. 555.

$200 for a short time with an old lady? Sounds reasonable.

[Member #4643]

I was there a few Saturday nights ago. The quality of the girls was outstanding.

My friend and I asked a few real beauties if they were interested. He got one quote at 10 K and another at 6 K. I was offered 3 hours for 6 K. The woman who wanted 10 K was only offering everything covered service.

We ended up leaving and going to Mixx.

Do an advanced search. For KeyWord Type: Spasso Hyatt.

Rates for ST are between 4,000 and 6,000 baht. I have never paid more than 5,000 not including a tip for above average service. I have always tipped my Spasso FL's. That should tell you what kind of service I have had in the past. It is very good. Girls are never in a hurry to split, but never pay in advance. No need to buy a girl a drink unless you want to. They have already bought a drink to gain admission and are nursing it for the night. Live Band on Thurs, Fri and Sat nights. The average age is around 30 something. That is the only negative as far as I am concerned although I enjoy a 30 something girl once in a while as long as she is still put together nicely. It is like they try harder because they know. 555.

[Member #4698]

Going to hit Spasso for the first time. Interested to know the avg market rate for ST
P. S: I did do a forum search using the "Spasso" keyword and could not find anything relevant.

Do an advanced search. For KeyWord Type: Spasso Hyatt.

Rates for ST are between 4,000 and 6,000 baht. I have never paid more than 5,000 not including a tip for above average service. I have always tipped my Spasso FL's. That should tell you what kind of service I have had in the past. It is very good. Girls are never in a hurry to split, but never pay in advance. No need to buy a girl a drink unless you want to. They have already bought a drink to gain admission and are nursing it for the night. Live Band on Thurs, Fri and Sat nights. The average age is around 30 something. That is the only negative as far as I am concerned although I enjoy a 30 something girl once in a while as long as she is still put together nicely. It is like they try harder because they know. 555.

[Kumbu]

I went to Thermae tonight...We arrived around 9 pm and the place was already buzzing. It got even more so within the next hour. However, there was not a whole lot of eye candy. It was full of mostly GND girls. It is possible that the eye candy girls were already gone. I usually find about 10% in the eye candy category.

There was plenty of mongers from the preferred ethnicity, I. E. Japanes, Korean, and Chinese. My wingman looks Japanese, so he felt at home in that crowd. In fact, I lost him within half an hour. My suspicion is that he picked up a girl and took her to his hotel.

In touring the place, I got quite a few hits from the GND girls, but I was not in the mood to shell out 2,500 bahts for that type of girl, not knowing what kind of service I was getting. The few GND+ girls I saw showed no interest towards me. After an hour, I decided I had enough of that place. I sent a text to my wingman and took off towards Nana.

Super report, Lefeu, thanks. I wonder what you mean by GND type. Does that say something about how they are dressed, or their age, or their overall beauty? I mean, Playboy girls were supposed to be GND, but goddam were they fuckable. I assume by GND you mean unfuckable. Anyway, if you could expound on what you found off putting about these girls, I'd be interested.

[Lefeu]

I went to Thermae tonight, with my wingman. We arrived around 9 pm and the place was already buzzing. It got even more so within the next hour. However, there was not a whole lot of eye candy. It was full of mostly GND girls. It is possible that the eye candy girls were already gone. I usually find about 10% in the eye candy category.

There was plenty of mongers from the preferred ethnicity, I. E. Japanes, Korean, and Chinese. My wingman looks Japanese, so he felt at home in that crowd. In fact, I lost him within half an hour. My suspicion is that he picked up a girl and took her to his hotel.

In touring the place, I got quite a few hits from the GND girls, but I was not in the mood to shell out 2,500 bahts for that type of girl, not knowing what kind of service I was getting. The few GND+ girls I saw showed no interest towards me. After an hour, I decided I had enough of that place. I sent a text to my wingman and took off towards Nana.

When I arrived at Nana, I surveyed the FL scene outside the nana hotel and noticed a few prospects. Eventually, I settled on one and took her to my hotel, ST for 1 K bahts. I was fairly pleased with the session, as she appeared to have been away from sex for a while. She was very much into it, which I liked. As a bonus, she was also tight, and that made the session more enjoyable.

[TempStories]

I had tried them last year. Felt that pricing was way over what I would have paid - 8-10 K kinds. Did not try any girl there. Girls are bit over 30 year age mark IMO.

Going to hit Spasso for the first time. Interested to know the avg market rate for ST and what I can expect (ya I know its all in the negotiations however I do not want to ask for too little or too much).

TIA.

P. S: I did do a forum search using the "Spasso" keyword and could not find anything relevant.

[Chuday]

Going to hit Spasso for the first time. Interested to know the avg market rate for ST and what I can expect (ya I know its all in the negotiations however I do not want to ask for too little or too much).

TIA.

P. S: I did do a forum search using the "Spasso" keyword and could not find anything relevant.

[EihTooms]

Point taken! Thanks.

I may return tonight just for grins. It was quite the display of female pultrichude and will disregard the outcome with this one. Wouldn't mind seeing this cutie again and restarting the engine. The girl and mamasan are prob in cahoots working some good cop / bad cop scam with mamasan being the latter. 'See, I will go with you for $2 k but my boss says no. ' Like I just fell off the turnip truck.

Yes, the conditions that prompted the first event might vanish or be forgotten and the answer might be totally different the next time. It isn't as though any of these things are well thought out by Thai hookers and their lazy mamasans. For example, once the mamasan found out that YOUR girl was willing to go for 2,000 baht, YOUR girl might have been spooked by the possibility/probability that the lazy mamasan will reveal that information in passing to other girls in the venue who think there is an ironclad agreement between ALL of them not to start handing it out for less than 3,000 baht. She could have already been slammed and snubbed by other girls for accepting 2,000 baht on a recent previous occasion. Same situation could have been the case with my girl the other night. Who knows.

I should also mention that I was with a male friend the night my previous 2,500 baht Twister BKK girl stood firm at 3,000 baht. They did not know each other, he had never been in that bar. He was sitting on the other side of me and could not have heard my exchange with her due to the loud music. But she kept glancing over past me to see if he was hearing any of it. So it is always possible she was adamantly opposed to agreeing to less than 3,000 baht for anyone, not even a previous repeat customer, in a situation where ANOTHER punter would hear and either expect the same deal with her at some point in the future or, as far as she knows, tell the next girl who sits on his lap that he understood 2,000 baht was the norm based on THAT girl right there. No way to know for sure or try to figure out what goes on in the mind of these girls.

And when you add that my negotiation will almost always include a True GFE of BBFS+CIP, then the go-go dancer who agrees to that AND for something less than the same 3,000 baht other girls start out asking for has got to be even more certain no other nearby punter will overhear it or that other girls will find out about it. Shopping for, negotiating for and getting an agreement for BBFS+CIP with better than average farang red light district go-go dancers is a wholly and completely different game with different rules on a different playing field than the standard P4P Thai fare most punters apparently are willing or capable of accepting. Where I probably made a mistake was in going on a hunt for that kind of service with a buddy or what some call a "wingman" present. I get much better results when I hunt alone. Only the price was an issue in the discussion between me and my Twister BKK girl because she brought it up. Not BBFS+CIP. But as far as she knew, my buddy was aware of the level of service she regularly gave me. So then her sticking to a certain asking price became all important to her.

[Tomasb]

Point taken! Thanks.

I may return tonight just for grins. It was quite the display of female pultrichude and will disregard the outcome with this one. Wouldn't mind seeing this cutie again and restarting the engine. The girl and mamasan are prob in cahoots working some good cop / bad cop scam with mamasan being the latter. 'See, I will go with you for $2 k but my boss says no. ' Like I just fell off the turnip truck.

BTW: last night a rum and coke at Hillary 1 was 150 with a live band, Hillary 2 charged me 180, also a live band, and, at Billboard it was 170. Billboard is the best deal obviously due to the talent googling there. The band was not not that great at Hillary 1 except for a very pretty gal singer.

Sounds to me like the mamasan wanted a 1,000 baht bonus/commission put into her pocket by the girl just for being the mamasan. Or maybe the girl owed her money or a favor. There is almost no other reason a lazy mamasan would interfere and get in between a girl and her customer re a negotiation unless it was to rake off a piece of the action.

I stopped in Twister BKK the other night and a girl I had been with a half dozen times already saw me, followed me up to the booth and plopped herself right next to me as if to say "Here I am, buy me a Ladydrink and pay my barfine." Actually, I was not opposed to the idea since I liked fucking her quite a bit and I hadn't done that with her for several months. Ok. So I bought her a Ladydrink and found myself inspired to discuss my paying her barfine. I asked how much is the barfine tonight? "1,000 baht," and without hesitation, "and 3,000 to me for ST." Huh? I'd had this girl for 700 baht barfine and no more than 2,500 baht to her for a very fine ST up until a few months ago when she was that many months younger and at least 2 kilos lighter.

I said, "3,000 for ST? Pang pang (expensive). I can give you 2,000 baht", leaving it to her to come back with 2,500 if she really gave a shit about ever seeing a previous repeat customer she always flags over when I pass by again. There are girls with hotter bodies in Twister BKK who have repeatedly gone with me in the past few months for 2,000 baht. Apparently, she didn't give a shit and would not budge from 3,000 baht for ST.

Then she went on to say, "Because I have been traveling a while, not working and I have not had many customers." lololol. Swear to god that was her stated reason for not budging from 3,000 baht for ST with a long time repeat customer she used to go with for 2,500. I bid farewell, paid my checkbin, walked away and she let me walk away without resistance.

So in the case of the Billboard girl and lazy mamasan, their reasoning might very well be they have an ironclad agreement between the two of them that she shall not go with a customer for less than 2,000 baht to her and an additional 1,000 baht for the lazy mamasan. And that it is just fine and dandy to watch customers reject that offer and walk away because, after all, times are hard, they haven't been getting many customers lately and they really need the money. LOL.

[EihTooms]

I rarely, if ever, take a girl from a GoGo or club. However, tonight I found myself at Billboard in NEP enjoying a spectacular show of different gorgeous women dancing only feet from me.

-snip-

When I asked her for the short time rate, she said it was 2000 to which I quickly agreed. She also said it was for two hours though I forgot to ask her how many pops were involved. For what it's worth, she said that she had working in Bangkok for two years. From Issan, of course.

Then the mamasan came over and I was ready to pay her the 700 BF when she said the girls short term rate was 3000. When I said 2000, she shook her head and walked off. I asked my new friend about the rate and once again she said 2000. I repeated this 2000 amount again to the mamasan when she came over but with the same shake of her head she repeated 3000. I thought my girl may have told me that I need to say I was going to pay 3000 (to the mamasan) but it was so loud in there I am not sure that I heard this correctly.

With that conversation undone my friend disappeared and reappeared on stage a few minutes later. I beckoned her over from the stage to clarify what was up and this time she said it was 3000 plus 700. By now, I was pretty irritated and declined and left as it was 1 am anyway.

So why does the mamasan care what the girl and I agreed too? I assume that my short time payment would be to the girl, not to the bar.

The girl mentioned going to her hotel but I told her my apartment was close by and preferred that option. I am thinking she does not stay in hotel but wanted to use a short term hotel in the complex, which I had no interest in utilizing but she did not objec to using my apartment either. Other than that, I found this whole payment scenario perplexing. Can someone shed light on this practice? For whats its worth, there were a lot girls in there at 1am and not too many punters so figure a lot of girls were going home without a customer though they may have had one earlier.

Sounds to me like the mamasan wanted a 1,000 baht bonus/commission put into her pocket by the girl just for being the mamasan. Or maybe the girl owed her money or a favor. There is almost no other reason a lazy mamasan would interfere and get in between a girl and her customer re a negotiation unless it was to rake off a piece of the action.

I stopped in Twister BKK the other night and a girl I had been with a half dozen times already saw me, followed me up to the booth and plopped herself right next to me as if to say "Here I am, buy me a Ladydrink and pay my barfine." Actually, I was not opposed to the idea since I liked fucking her quite a bit and I hadn't done that with her for several months. Ok. So I bought her a Ladydrink and found myself inspired to discuss my paying her barfine. I asked how much is the barfine tonight? "1,000 baht," and without hesitation, "and 3,000 to me for ST." Huh? I'd had this girl for 700 baht barfine and no more than 2,500 baht to her for a very fine ST up until a few months ago when she was that many months younger and at least 2 kilos lighter.

I said, "3,000 for ST? Pang pang (expensive). I can give you 2,000 baht", leaving it to her to come back with 2,500 if she really gave a shit about ever seeing a previous repeat customer she always flags over when I pass by again. There are younger girls with hotter bodies in Twister BKK who have repeatedly gone with me in the past few months for 2,000 baht. Apparently, she didn't give a shit and would not budge from 3,000 baht for ST.

Then she went on to say, "Because I have been traveling a while, not working and I have not had many customers." lololol. Swear to god that was her stated reason for not budging from 3,000 baht for ST with a long time repeat customer she used to go with for 2,500. I bid farewell, paid my checkbin, walked away and she let me walk away without resistance.

So in the case of the Billboard girl and lazy mamasan, their reasoning might very well be they have an ironclad agreement between the two of them that she shall not go with a customer for less than 2,000 baht to her and an additional 1,000 baht for the lazy mamasan. And that it is just fine and dandy to watch customers reject that offer and walk away because, after all, times are hard, they haven't been getting many customers lately and they really need the money. LOL.