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  1. #43571
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I am finding it is relatively easy to get into some great threesomes and have amazing times with 2 bargirl friends, but for some reason, apparently it is much harder to get out of the threesome and yet keep on seeing one of the girls. Shit I thought money is what counts. But in the case of my 2 threesomes (one in BKK & one in Makati) its girlfriends before customers! What a joke!
    I have had short time and overnight threesomes but never a relationship as such, trying to deal with one woman at a time is more then enough for me.

    My two cents for what its worth is while it's always possible jealousy and losing face plays a part, I feel a lot depends on what the ongoing relationship between the girls is.

    If they are close friends it's easier to understand how it might seem a betrayal of that friendship to go solo.

    If they are not close possibly just work at the same venue then being part of a threesome is simply a business partnership and going solo should I imagine be usually OK.

  2. #43570
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    No wonder, 20-25 years ago was the top of the AIDS epidemic in Thailand.

    These days Thais tend to be more causal about it, but banging dozens of working girls bareback is still not a good idea. It's risky in general, but even more so with girls who readily agree to BBFS with a first-time customer, meaning they regularly engage in it.

    Moreover, while I'm a monger and try not to moralize, I still find it morally repugnant to cajole girls into taking the extra risk of BBFS, even if they agree to it. Yes, it feels pleasant, and yes, for an old geezer with health issues the extra pleasure might be worthwhile even if it leads to catch something including HIV, but for a working girl in her 20s or 30s it certainly is not.
    Yes, 20-25 years ago was one of the worst times for a "BBFS or No Fucking Will Happen and No Money Will Be Earned" guy like me to be in Thailand. But that was my first opportunity so I took it. Good thing I was fine with BBBJ+CIM some of the time. But not all of the time.

    I find it morally repugnant for a monger or any man to encourage a girl to get drunk before having sex with him. And for him to get drunk, too. I suspect that is far more often the time when condoms are forgotten, slip off and not noticed, are decided against using and so on with guys who never even considered getting a vasectomy before engaging in BBFS or ever checking their HIV/STD status with a blood test in a reliable clinic. Not to mention how risky it is for a drunk girl to ride home on a motorcycle at any hour of the day or night, especially late at night when she is tired and sleepy on top of being drunk.

  3. #43569
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    YMMV, as always. But I must say there are more Nana go-go girls willing to agree in advance to BBFS with me than I experienced two years ago and MANY more willing to agree to it than I remember encountering 20-25 years ago!
    No wonder, 20-25 years ago was the top of the AIDS epidemic in Thailand.

    These days Thais tend to be more causal about it, but banging dozens of working girls bareback is still not a good idea. It's risky in general, but even more so with girls who readily agree to BBFS with a first-time customer, meaning they regularly engage in it.

    Moreover, while I'm a monger and try not to moralize, I still find it morally repugnant to cajole girls into taking the extra risk of BBFS, even if they agree to it. Yes, it feels pleasant, and yes, for an old geezer with health issues the extra pleasure might be worthwhile even if it leads to catch something including HIV, but for a working girl in her 20s or 30s it certainly is not.

  4. #43568

    Shock 39 and mixx.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbu  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this report, very helpful. I wonder if Climaxx has opened yet. Anyone?

    5000 for a threesome from Spasso?! That seems very low to me, so well done sir. I wonder if this is because it was after hours and the girls had failed to capture anyone while in Spasso. Regardless, you obviously played this well, so congratulations.
    Any one with recent info about shock 39 girls quality specially the Eastern European? I know mixx has some good quality but they are racist for brown people like me, last time they didn't let me in, it was humiliating so kind of stayed away from them after that. I fancy Eastern European girl, tried soi 4 near nana and bamboo bar but nothing, some middle eastern girl but lot heavy. I didn't wanted to pick up any? Any one with recent info will help planning next trip in April.

  5. #43567

    The Problem with my 2 Threesomes

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Two of Natty's girls approached me bit I was already ready to go home. Not quite what I needed.
    I stopped seeing P halfway through my last visit to BKK. Actually, she precipitated the breakup by demanding one night when I was otherwise engaged (LOL) that I come to CH to see her or else she would never see me again. Then she changed her mind the next day, but I let the break up stick because she had been taking too much for granted recently and was starting to act too possessive and bossy while at the same time not delivering the goods as well as she once did. I hate that. Of course, it did not help her cause that I had become more interested at the moment in a few New girls I had just started up with like my Atomic Blond, my Va Va Voom La Belle girl, and a sexy little Twister girl. I still wanted to see "B", the 2nd girl in my Crazy House menage a trois, but I could not figure out a way to break up the menage and see only her and "B" was not being helpful in achieving my goal, so I had to let both girls go.

    Interestingly, I had the same trouble with my Makati threesome and my Pinay problem hurts me more because Michele, girl #2 in that threesome, is really hot and at the same time really really sweet. AND I miss her! But after I took Sara & Michele to Palawan, Sara started taking things for granted and was getting WAY too bossy. So, I was the one that broke it off. But I still wanted to continue on with the other one, Michelle. Unfortunately, Michelle did not want to see me one on one without Sara's apparent permission? What! Yeah, and because I didn't want to bother with the whole friggin' thing, I decided not to visit Manila on my fall 2018 trip to Asia. To hell with it and I had a great time in Macau instead.

    But I am going back to Manila this spring and since it has been around 18 months since I last chatted with Michelle, I decided to text her and wish her a Happy New Year a few weeks ago. Naturally She was really happy to hear from me after such a long time and asked me when I was coming to Manila. But then the next day I get a text from Sara, the one I do not want to see and she sounded upbeat and happy too like everything was OK between us. So I am thinking why did Michelle tell Sara she had heard from me and I have not responded to either girl since then and I probably won't again for another 12 months. LOL. It is not a big problem since I know I will find plenty of other hotties in Manila to take up the slack and I AM looking forward to my upcoming visit regardless of the status of those 2 knuckleheads, but it is a conundrum: How does one end a threesome and yet keep it going with one of the girls when the 2 girls in question are bargirl amigas?

    I am finding it is relatively easy to get into some great threesomes and have amazing times with 2 bargirl friends, but for some reason, apparently it is much harder to get out of the threesome and yet keep on seeing one of the girls. Shit I thought money is what counts. But in the case of my 2 threesomes (one in BKK & one in Makati) its girlfriends before customers! What a joke!

  6. #43566
    Searched Soi 4. Was looking for girls I knew. No dice. There were a group of about 5 deaf mutes signing in the Mana car park vicinity. What they were signing was a little amusing even I could not understand it that well I did get some idea. Turns out of these girls was slim and excessively cut face, fab ass. Zero tits. Could bot determine if legal age. Anyway so pretty that I definitely wanted her. 7 nfortunately She pointed to her friend. I said no and pointed at her but she did not want me. Bait and switch technoque? Ha ha. Not sure why she was there but refusing. Maybe no Farangs as dick scared. Maybe too young. Ended up sleeping with no fuck. Don't like to take 2nd best. Took a regular today instead.

    Checked Line up at Crazy House but nothing special. One great looking girl except for really exaggerated tits that were just too hard coconut shell looking. No one was the whole package. Probably far too late. Good girls are taken early.

    Two of Natty's girls approached me bit I was already ready to go home. Not quite what I needed.

  7. #43565
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I came across the below report from a while back as I was RTFF'ing in preparation for my upcoming trip to BKK. Can anyone (including the OP) confirm / update the implication of this old report, that there is / was a category of girls at Mandarin in Nana Plaza who are BBFS-friendly and accordingly have higher barfines?
    It was my experience and I mentioned in a few reports at the time (two years ago) that several go-go bars' "Special" girls, those for whom we are supposed to pay a higher barfine as in 1,500 baht vs 700-800 baht (not talking about the 3,000 baht barfine Coyotes found in some bars), were indeed more open to entertaining the idea of going bareback with me than the lower barfine girls. It wasn't something that I left to chance back in the room. As I described in that report, it was a case of me specifically connecting the higher cost of taking them out of the bar with more and/or better service from them to justify the higher barfine. For example, BBFS (assume +CIP when I say that) or BBBJ+CIM or perhaps even BBBJ+CIM+Swallow. Otherwise, why in the world would they ask me to pay a higher barfine and why in the world would I pay it? "Special" damn well better mean something tangible and useful.

    I can't update on what is currently the case (for me) at the Mandarin bars specifically since I have not taken a Mandarin Bar girl for a while, haven't even tried. Nothing against the Mandarin bars. It is just that I have been busier with other bars of late.

    However, I will say this; I no longer find that it matters much whether the go-go girls in any (Nana) bar are "Special" girls requiring a higher barfine or not. IMO, what we have now is what I had hoped would happen with regard to the BBFS issue as a result of some "Special" girls incorporating that option more freely (not guaranteed, of course) into their services in order to remain in the "Special" category as well as make more money at the moment and recruit more repeat customers in the long run; other girls are no longer as terrified of copying what the "Special" girls were doing and are now more open to the idea in hopes of producing the same results. Now more girls are agreeing to BBFS regardless of the higher barfine or not. And the amount paid to the girl directly (always afterwards, of course) is essentially no different than it was then or is generally to the lower barfine girls.

    YMMV, as always. But I must say there are more Nana go-go girls willing to agree in advance to BBFS with me than I experienced two years ago and MANY more willing to agree to it than I remember encountering 20-25 years ago! Bare in mind, I ask upfront. I don't go with the flow and wait to see what happens back in the room. No, nope and no again to that latter way. And it doesn't seem to matter if the girl is called a "Special" girl requiring a 1,500 baht barfine or a regular girl requiring a 700-800 baht barfine. Mind you, I am NOT talking about the non-barfinable or 3,000 baht barfine Coyote scammers lined up and down Soi Cowboy. Actually, I am not really talking about many bars on Soi Cowboy at all. Personally, I find the Soi Cowboy go-go bar collection too rife with the smell of rip-off and unrewarding hustle and I rarely barfine any girl from the Soi Cowboy area bars anymore. Maybe I could think of 2-3 rare exceptions.

  8. #43564
    Looks like we'll have to wait until 4 am for reasonable prices. I wonder if the Russians come down to this price at closing time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbu  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this report, very helpful. I wonder if Climaxx has opened yet. Anyone?

    5000 for a threesome from Spasso?! That seems very low to me, so well done sir. I wonder if this is because it was after hours and the girls had failed to capture anyone while in Spasso. Regardless, you obviously played this well, so congratulations.

  9. #43563

    Higher Barfine for BBFS Girls in Mandarin?

    I came across the below report from a while back as I was RTFF'ing in preparation for my upcoming trip to BKK. Can anyone (including the OP) confirm / update the implication of this old report, that there is / was a category of girls at Mandarin in Nana Plaza who are BBFS-friendly and accordingly have higher barfines?

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Stopped into the 2nd floor Mandarin go-go bar in Nana Plaza about 8:30 PM last night to check out their Bunny themed party. You get a couple of bite-sized sandwiches and draw a ticket from a jar to see if you win a free fruit punch drink or not. I won! LOL. The girls looked cute with the bunny ears and cotton tails on the usual bikini / short skirt garb. Don't remember if it extends through the rest of the weekend or if it was just a Friday night event.

    I was dragged into the bar at the top of the plaza escalator by a somewhat dignified looking old mamasan, something I usually resist at all costs. But for whatever reason, maybe because I had no real plan or agenda for the night but to stroll around and observe the parade and the fact that this mamasan looked like one of those well dressed Thai ladies emerging from a Mercedes on the way to Temple on a Sunday morning, I just smiled and let her lead the way to see what her idea of a good time for me was. I didn't want to sit on a stool next to one of their little stages so I chose a booth seat against the wall instead. It was still next to an elevated stage, of course. But it was a random selection on my part, had nothing to do with what the girls dancing on that stage looked like or anything..

  10. #43562
    Quote Originally Posted by Osaka  [View Original Post]
    December 2018 visit.

    Try Mixx disco in Bangkok...There were some ladies from Ukraine also. I met a girl from Columbia also. She was from Medellin. There were a few from Vietnam also. The Viets were also asking 8000 but were willing to settle for 5000.

    All of the women were fixated on 10000 baht and all were very keen that I buy them drinks or shots.
    Thanks for this report, very helpful. I wonder if Climaxx has opened yet. Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Osaka  [View Original Post]
    In the end I ended up taking 2 Thai ladies who I had met earlier at Spasso who were trying to negotiate with a few guys outside Mixx.

    It was 5000 baht for an amazing threesome with a great massage thrown in.
    5000 for a threesome from Spasso?! That seems very low to me, so well done sir. I wonder if this is because it was after hours and the girls had failed to capture anyone while in Spasso. Regardless, you obviously played this well, so congratulations.

  11. #43561
    Quote Originally Posted by Kostik007  [View Original Post]
    That's not a bday idea, I could ask some LBs. Why? I just like that boyish kind of girl, short hair, tattoos, muscular, no makeup or perfume, rough and ready. Just a pity that most of them are lesbians and go for the super feminine type.
    I think you missed my point about asking LB's. They would tell you where to find the Dykes. They know all the hidden bars and places that the Dykes hang out.

    RL.

  12. #43560

    Looking for Russian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I'm Thaied out! I just want a Russian girl or I swear I'm going to fly to Europe!
    December 2018 visit.

    Try Mixx disco in Bangkok, had several Russian ladies though IMHO only 2 were good enough for take out and both were stuck up types. The ones who were talking or friendly were not appealing to me. One babe was AWESOME, she could easily have been an actress in a movie, tall, blond, amazing figure, not smoking. She was the only one actually who did not smoke.

    There were some ladies from Ukraine also. I met a girl from Columbia also. She was from Medellin. There were a few from Vietnam also. The Viets were also asking 8000 but were willing to settle for 5000.

    All of the women were fixated on 10000 baht and all were very keen that I buy them drinks or shots.

    I left around 3. 30 am without anyone from there and the amazing Russian girl left with her two companions also without anyone taking her. I ran into them as I was crossing the street from the Erawan side back to Mixx. She was definitely available for take out as her friend asked me you want her I did. However better sense prevailed as she kept staring without any expression. I decided to pass. In the end I ended up taking 2 Thai ladies who I had met earlier at Spasso who were trying to negotiate with a few guys outside Mixx.

    It was 5000 baht for an amazing threesome with a great massage thrown in.

    Another interesting thing I noticed is that most of the girls if they thought they had a deal with you, then they would try to convince that you take a friend along for a threesome.

    Enjoy xxx.

  13. #43559

    Tomboys.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like you want a Dyke. I would ask the LB's. They know all and tell all. Offer a few baht and they will spill the beans.

    Curious, what for? You can confide in us, we can be trusted. 555.

    RL.
    That's not a bday idea, I could ask some LBs. Why? I just like that boyish kind of girl, short hair, tattoos, muscular, no makeup or perfume, rough and ready. Just a pity that most of them are lesbians and go for the super feminine type.

  14. #43558

    Tomboys

    Why not just hit a Tomboy bar? There are tons in Pattaya so I can only assume there are tons in Bangkok as well. Gogo girls who like Tomboys have dragged me to these places many times. An interesting experience.

  15. #43557
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbu  [View Original Post]
    Where are they from? Well, I have not been with the ladies of the Grace Hotel for several years, but back in 2016 I cruised past that area and found plenty of opportunities. Right there in the crowd were about 8-10 well-proportioned ladies of the darker complexion, by which I mean Middle Eastern, not African (the latter are typically found around the corner on Suk). So they are not hard to spot.
    As of this weekend there were a trio of CIS dressed in chardours working outside that small spirit house I front of the Rajah. There are a few floating around the front of Gulliver tavern at the tables. I've seen some good looking Russian ones around Soi ISIS getting into cabs and doing visa runs but I don't know where they work now that Royal Garden got pinched. Maybe they just freelance at Spassos.

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