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06-26-18 07:36 #41820
Posts: 50Bangkok BJ bars.
Hello everyone,
I'll be heading back to Bangkok next month and have never tried any of the BJ bars in Bangkok or Pattaya but I intend to on this trip. Is full service generally offered in these places or is it just usually a quick and dirty BJ? And recent reviews on Chrome Bar, Wood Bar, Kasalong or Soms Haven and help would be greatly appreciated.
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06-26-18 05:56 #41819
Posts: 92Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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06-26-18 03:29 #41818
Posts: 6309Bad reputation?
Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw [View Original Post]
If you are selecting the popular girls meeting a drink quota is not an issue for them so never feel the need you should be the one to buy them a ton of drinks. If by chance it is the last day on their schedule and they still need 5 drinks then yes I will have no issues buying them 5 drinks so they can earn their 10,000 baht salary.
I have never seen the need to buy mamasan a drink or a tip. I can find my own girls and actually prefer if they don't start bringing girls to me. I am really picky who I buy a lady drink for.
Do I have a bad reputation with some ugly girls and waitresses? Certainly. Do I care? Not one bit. Do I have a bad reputation with any girl I like? Absolutely not!
Even if you have a bad reputation with a hot girl it can be reversed almost instantaneously by being a Weekend Millionaire one night. I was not friends with a couple of above average Infinity girls until recently. They saw me with 5 girls getting drinks one night. The next time they saw me they were all over me trying to become one of my regulars.
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06-25-18 11:53 #41817
Posts: 666Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
1. Does not make a girl drink, but understands the need for her to make her quota in drinks. So I don't mind spending money on drinks. If I'm barfining, 5 is usually my limit for her.
2. Always tip the waitress in their hand 100 baht for my bill. It's like $3. Never buy a drink which costs 150 to the bar, but they keep only 50. I also usually leave 60-80 baht on the tray for the rest of the bar staff.
3. Always buy mamasan a drink when she brings me new girls or recommends a girl I like. Never tip just for no reason or because she sticks her hand out.
4. Never long time or short time. I have to sleep alone. But I will pay you anywhere in between depending on your level of services. So anywhere from the 3000 baht and up is what a girl can make.
5. I will always give a girl 100 baht for taxi, no matter her level of service, even if she is horrible.
So having this reputation in the club is very desirable to the club staff and most girls in the club. Not to mention, the money I spend for my own entertainment, even if I don't have girl sitting next to me. But behind closed doors, I've limited myself to the following as max with BBBJ with CIM and some tying up with blindfolds and sex toys. No pain involved, just plenty of orgasms and gushing sometimes. But I pay extremely well for that. But putting the girls in that vulnerable and helpless position always makes them wonder, "what else was done during the blindfolding?" So in the end, if I swapped them out with the next girl. What else they can say to make me look bad and the next girl refuse? Look at the reputation that #1 - #5 had built for Mr. Blue. If she then told the rest of the girls in the club, "Behind closed doors, he liked to get kinky, tie me up, and made me cum over and over again. And then paid me extremely well plus my taxi. " I doubt that would stop the next girl from going with me. It hasn't. I keep marching on. I think I was 100% on my first 100 selections from the Go Go bars after I re-planned my reputation and game. It got a little tougher after that, but 4 rejections in 4 years is not bad. Keep in mind this is with top girls at the top go go bars where the girls are friends and like to chit chat amongst each other. Not freelancers, escorts, or Thermae were gossip and rumors are less likely.
So with go go bar girls and rejection. Things that will keep "the best of the best" girls from going with you are IMHO are.
1. Having a rep of seeking BBFS.
2. No paying the agreed amount for any reason.
3. Causing pain or hurt during sex for any reason.
4. Belonging or have a history with their best friend in / out of the club.
I like to use #239 at Baccara as a prime example. She used be one of my regulars about 6 months ago. One day I kicked her to the curb because she complained about only getting 6000 for short time. Normally, I barfine her and we spend about 3-4 hours with her doing everything in my game plan for about 8,000 baht. Then one night, I saw her sitting alone and decided to grab her just for a quickie. We sat at drank at Baccara for about 45 minutes and headed off to my room nearby. In my room, all we did was just normal sex for about an hour session. When finished, she asked me to Demo Club off Thong Lor, but I declined. I was going to sleep and paid her 6,000 baht (which is the normal LT rate for most Baccara girls). She looked at me and complained that I normally gave her 8,000. I said, yeah but we would do more kink and it was longer in time spent. She got angry and snatched the 6,000 and demanded her 100 baht for taxi. I got upset and handed her 50 baht for a motorbike taxi and told her "hopefully your hair will be okay. " A few days later, I went back to Baccara and saw another girl who used to work Baccara Pattaya. It was her first day in Soi Cowboy. We had gone with each other 2 times in Pattaya. I sat with her and we chatted over drinks. I asked her where she was staying and she told me Huay Kwang with her friend that also worked here. About 15 minutes later #239 come in to work and says ""Hi" to the girl I'm sitting with now, while rolling her eyes at me. Apparently, this was the friend she was staying with. Great, I thought. Anyways, I ended barfining her and paid her 4000 for ST. She did a few extras that earned her the 1000 baht tip. Afterwards, we went back to Baccara to hang out some more. When she went back to change back into her dance clothes, #239 started chatting to her again. Later, I asked her what #239 said and if it was about me. She said her friend told her that I was a bad customer who didn't pay her all her money. I asked her if she believed that? She said "no," because none of the girls at Baccara Pattaya ever complained except to say "he is such a butterfly!" So I decided to tell her the details of #239 and me. 6000 baht for short time is very generous, and she agreed. So the take from this story is that if your reputation is outstanding, one complaint from one girl won't hurt you. The other girls will back you up as long as you were straight up. Just keep doing what you are doing, and you will get exactly what you deserved. If you see now that you aren't liking it, better do something different. Don't be afraid to change it up.
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06-25-18 10:03 #41816
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Jake251 [View Original Post]
Anyway a recent visit to CH for me, did not last long. The line up at 10PM on Sat was quite weak. No recent new pretty girls. No old girls of interest. As soon as the stupid shows were about to start I quickly left after just 1 soda. This club has declined a lot. Still has a lot of customers, not sure why, but noticeably seats were available. Customers are clearly losing interest. Maybe another week day will be better. Have not BFed or even stayed long there this year. 3 years ago, it was vastly better for slim natural naked models. If they eventuallymove or expand into Old Dutch, the club will be too big, and death may follow, unless they can start attracting some pretty girls willing to be naked. Perhaps the prevalence of Coyotes in the other bars has weakened the supply of pretty girls badly. It was all very different 4 years ago.
In the case of Bacarra, it is different because Western guys like me, maybe required to buy a drink before entry as well, in case we are a waste of space. It may also be a trick to get money out of non regulars, when known that western guys will often leave quickly when no decent seats are available.
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06-25-18 09:48 #41815
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by RobJones [View Original Post]
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06-25-18 08:40 #41814
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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06-25-18 05:27 #41813
Posts: 37Has anyone here ever tried something called Yaba?
I had heard it is great for sex, cheap and relatively easy to get. Just wanted to try some while over there.
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06-24-18 23:22 #41812
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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06-24-18 22:12 #41811
Posts: 621A Classic post that some will disagree with, but is "spot on" for me. Rob should have quoted properly. I am "Jai Dee" (for useful people) but still ignore people that are of no interest to me.
LOL all I did was copy and paste. LOL I'm too lazy to re-type.
But after reading post after it I think I understand what Jai Dee means.
Rob.
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06-24-18 20:03 #41810
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
So it takes you longer to cum than others. Do you now work yourself into a frenzy to finish quickly for fear that the girls will talk about you and you'll get a bad reputation?
Some girl thinks you "belong" to another hooker. Since when is that something anyone can or should even bother trying to avoid by trying to "behave" themselves in some bizarre fashion behind closed doors?
You have been rejected by hookers without knowing why. Join the club. Every punter has had that happen, I'd wager every man reading this forum, and the chances of it having anything to do with those hookers hearing about some dastardly deed he committed behind closed doors is extremely remote.
Let me put it this way; an example I used of a no grey area act that ought to earn a punter a bad enough reputation to seriously put a crimp in his ability to get another girl in the bar to go with him was putting a girl out with little or no money even though she provided fair or decent agreed upon service. Well, I have put out several girls from various bars around town with little or no money. But never after they gave fair or decent agreed upon service. Only when it was clear to me they had lied in order to be barfined and were scamming me. That is a response I happily recommend anyone do under those same circumstances. And to whatever extent those girls talked about what I had done "behind closed doors", I am quite certain they bad mouthed the shit out of me and did not come close to telling the truth.
So what? I promise you I have never felt shunned by the better looking girls or any girls in those same bars. And I sure would not hand full payment to an obvious (to me) scammer out of fear that she would gossip me into a bad reputation. On the contrary, a much worse reputation to avoid in my book is to have scammers talk up what a roll over I am, willing to pay full fare for practically nothing. And you don't have to be an asshole to keep that clear with whoever must gossip about you afterwards. You can be as congenial as anyone about it, imo.
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06-24-18 15:21 #41809
Posts: 1322I note in number 7 below the Thai word I used got edited out. The reference was don't be someone who Thais will call a monitor lizard. Don't be rude, overbearing, smelly, howling noisy drunk, gropy, greedy, loud, arrogant, mean, violent, cheap or stupid.
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06-24-18 15:15 #41808
Posts: 1322Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
That's Jai Dee. Not getting on the Internet and bitching about your electric bill and Thai folks all be thieves. Bet the BJ girl will feel that attitude.
You are in Thailand. You are alive. What more do you need? Ya ain't got the misery of being stuck in traffic in LA, or wintering in Manchester or catering to some fat bitchy wife or being an Arsenal fan. You are in Thailand getting gobbled by a cute 20 year old. I can't wait till tomorrow maybe I'll have the trots. What an interesting day!
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06-24-18 15:12 #41807
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Plenty of times a mamasan or other staff member will tell some newbie girl that I am a guy to be trusted, as have a good reputation. On the other hand I have been subject to undesirable gossip. E. g. , girls get to hear that I fuck for long time and don't come quick. Girls get to hear that I used to always / mostly take 2 girls at a time from Suzie Wong. One girl who does not like to do threesomes, and possibly having a delicate pussy, used to avoid me for over a year. Eventually she saw from her own observation that I was popular among good girls in the bar, and not cheap Charlie. She finally decided to approach me because she knew that her looks were special to me. Soon she became my regular girl, for normal non threesome bookings, because she found out I was a very worthwhile customer, despite rumours, and despite previously taking several different girls. There was nothing so bad to be avoided. She was superior to most girls in looks and style. Her fears of me due to gossip were totally unfounded really. She would handle that I cum slow as long as did not get a pounding.
I have been refused by hookers without knowing why on occasions. However very likely to be due to gossip about how I am and what I do, I. E. Reputation, or sometimes purely because I previously refused the girl when she approached me. There are several possibilities.
I do get to hear about reputation of other customers in the bar. I. e. The girl will say that a particular guy is a heavy groper, or a total waste of space and time, or cheap Charlie, or Mr. Stinky. Etc. There are guys that will be avoided, and others that are considered easy prey, or Psycho guys, etc. So not only is the general reputation of your peers from a Culture considered, but also personal reputation (which is much fairer). Personal good reputation can overcome the reputation of your peers.
Another problem can occur where girls may avoid a guy, if he is seen as "belonging" to some girl in the bar, who won't take kindly to others trying to "steal" her customer. This is absolute bullshit from the customer point of view, since it is our choice, and we are not married to the girl. One girl this year did a tantrum while drunk (and possibly on substances) since I don't take her any more. She just started work in Shark. She seems a bit psycho these days. I used to take her a lot years ago but then her body was great and while she was crazy she was fun. Now she has had a baby, her ass is now fattish rather than sleek, her pussy has altered and does not suit me anymore since her baby some time back in Suzie Wong (possibly doctor stitched her up a bit to taunt). Most of all she is now too crazy to be tolerable. However hard for her to understand why I have moved on. She used to think she had semi ownership, most likely. Fortunately has not affected my current regular girls in Shark. I enjoy a very good reputation there, which unfortunately then has to lead to keeping undesired girls away. Two favourite girls there is enough for me, so I can't be generous and buy drinks for any of their "friends" on a regular basis. Two well treated girls is plenty.
If a girl is popular in a bar, and she has several guys interested in her concurrently, your reputation could count for a lot, if she does not know you well personally. Customers with good reputation will be at the front of the queue.
Guys well known at Bacarra with good reputation and known to be not a waste of space, won't get asked to buy a drink before entry most likely. I did get asked to buy a drink first, probably because totally unknown by the doormen, and maybe I look like a hard type (deceptive). Will refusing to buy a drink before entry count in my favour next time? LOL Of course not if they remember me (unlikely - it's too long ago).
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06-24-18 13:10 #41806
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by MonkeyPawOriginally Posted by Nyezhov [View Original Post]
Would you or anyone else who has already read this but not questioned it care to list a few things that punters do behind closed doors that would in a meaningful way make it difficult for them to take another girl in the bar because the girls talked badly about it?
I suspect I have done things behind closed doors that many posters here believe ought to make it almost impossible for another girl in the bar who heard about it to happily go with me and deliver very good service anyway. But I can't think of one time where that actually happened.
Of course, I'm not hazy on things like beating up the girls or kicking them out with little or no money/fee despite their giving fair and decent agreed upon service. There is no grey area in that kind of behavior. But there is a whole lot of other stuff some punters do far short of that kind of thing that other guys might say the girls will surely talk about and, therefore, the perpetrators might as well avoid that bar for a good long while.
Like what?