Nairobi

[Mombie75]

My apologies, I meant generally as I do not have a specific AirBnB in mind. Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.

Book the airbnb for two people. Gate security have a log book to keep a check on who comes and goes. Sometimes a girl will not have her ID on her, then you just give the security a few $, the majority will let them in.

Check with hotel before booking.

[BPalacio]

I take it that the Airbnb has an entrance gate with security on it? If so, it is likely they will want to see ID. If no ID a small payment is usually accepted.

My apologies, I meant generally as I do not have a specific AirBnB in mind. Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.

[World Jockey]

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?

I like the W place. They will check ID, a pic of ID or just pay the guard off.

Aside from that many places with a guard will check ID.

Recently there have been some women brutally murdered so by men at airbnbs so there may be more scrutiny.

[Mombie75]

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?

I take it that the Airbnb has an entrance gate with security on it? If so, it is likely they will want to see ID. If no ID a small payment is usually accepted.

[BPalacio]

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?

[SeanBenz]

SeanBenz -.

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds like the TD / FTC PReP is the one to go with; yes?

But there risks associated with it, notably kidney issues.

I'm 55 which puts me over the 50 age its mentioned.

Also where do you get it?

Could order online but a lot less comfortable ordering that than I might Viagra from an Indian pharmacy!

Chris.

https://www.purchase-prep.com/ (they get some of their supplies from India, it's legit look around).

I have gotten mine from that website twice with no issues.

But since I am in the UK I have also gotten it free on the national health care service, they were hesitant since I am not gay but acquiesced when I told them I was going to Africa to see old girlfriends lols.

And one time I got it in Bkk at a red cross can't remember the exact location it was before the pandemic when I was there so a while now.

It's best to talk / attend a sexual health clinic, yes your are right kidney function and liver function tests will need to be done to see if your baseline is the desired range. At sexual health clinics they do this for everyone regardless of age.

They also need to check if you have hep be because taking and stopping it when you have that is not advisable.

You can do all the test in Kenya it's probably cheaper but get your prep e online. Although given sub Saharan Africa's hiv rates you could probably get some in Nairobi as well.

[Mahku]

Hi all. The girls that came to my room, all from Tinder, were allowed in for free after registration at the front desk. Sometimes they didn't even bother with the registration, especially if it was earlier in the evening. My booking was for 2 people anyway. And it may help that I'm VIP status in Radisson Rewards, equivalent to the former Platinum status. But I have a feeling it's the same for everybody.

The hotel is in a great location. Short ride to Westlands. The tollway entrance is fairly close, so rides to and from the airport don't take long.

The Arboretum, a tree park that appears to be a former colonial estate, is a great place for a run or a power walk, especially in the cool Nairobi climate. The area is secure and quiet, but not far from action. The bar, restaurant, and pool here seem to attract groups or pairs of probably upper middle class office girl / student types.

[Chris Bigdog]

Its best to do the daily one. Research of prep in CIS / heterosexual males is not the greatest. There simply aren't enough studies (opinion) or at least they are not as visible or well reported as those done on gay men, trans and women.

There are whispers that event based can be done by straight men who are insertive partners, but they seem to be just whispers. (https://i-base.info/guides/prep/on-demand). The rational for that seem to be since gay insertive partners can use event based by extension straight men can also do the same with the vag.

I am a big fan of prep, just personally I just do the daily one for the 3 or 4 weeks I monger internationally. 7 days before possible exposure and 7 days after possible exposure. No problem.

SeanBenz -.

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds like the TD / FTC PReP is the one to go with; yes?

But there risks associated with it, notably kidney issues.

I'm 55 which puts me over the 50 age its mentioned.

Also where do you get it?

Could order online but a lot less comfortable ordering that than I might Viagra from an Indian pharmacy!

Chris.

[Senser]

Where are these two places. Anymore info?

Thanks.

Feel free to look them up in Google Maps, there are plenty of pics and reviews. NSH is open during the day and you can check out the numerous restaurants. Thursday is Latino night on the second floor, which becomes a dance floor. I ubered my way there straight to the entrance, just type in the name and the driver will know. Nairobi Street Kitchen is in Westlands, 207 Lounge Bar is on Amboseli Lane, a bit hidden away besides the street. The owners have another lounge bar, which also starts with "2". Unfortunately I have forgotten the name and haven't been there. Anyone visiting 257, please leave a review here. It was my first and only time to a hooker-bar, I can't provide comparisons to Sabina Joy etc.

[SeanBenz]

I prefer sex without a condom (obviously) and the CDC says that the pills reduce the chance of getting HIV by 99%.

While not 100%; that's pretty good.

Need a prescription etc in US; and intermittent users can follow a 2-1-1 schedule.

It is also known as "intermittent," "non-daily," "event-driven," or "off-label" PrEP use.

The type of "on-demand" PrEP that has been studied is the "2-1-1" schedule. This means taking 2 pills 2-24 hours before sex, 1 pill 24 hours after the first dose, and 1 pill 24 hours after the second dose.

There is scientific evidence that the "2-1-1" schedule provides effective protection for gay and bisexual men* when having anal sex without a condom.

We don't know how "on-demand" PrEP works for heterosexual men and women, people who inject drugs, and transgender persons.

The are some side effects of course but seem to be tolerated pretty well.

So does anyone know if you can get them there?

Been to a Kenya a few times and met 'nice' - ok smart women who wanted to get a rapid HIV test together.

This is great but not for a quick pickup.

Thoughts?

Its best to do the daily one. Research of prep in CIS / heterosexual males is not the greatest. There simply aren't enough studies (opinion) or at least they are not as visible or well reported as those done on gay men, trans and women.

There are whispers that event based can be done by straight men who are insertive partners, but they seem to be just whispers. (https://i-base.info/guides/prep/on-demand). The rational for that seem to be since gay insertive partners can use event based by extension straight men can also do the same with the vag.

I am a big fan of prep, just personally I just do the daily one for the 3 or 4 weeks I monger internationally. 7 days before possible exposure and 7 days after possible exposure. No problem.

[Chris Bigdog]

I prefer sex without a condom (obviously) and the CDC says that the pills reduce the chance of getting HIV by 99%.

While not 100%; that's pretty good.

Need a prescription etc in US; and intermittent users can follow a 2-1-1 schedule.

It is also known as "intermittent," "non-daily," "event-driven," or "off-label" PrEP use.

The type of "on-demand" PrEP that has been studied is the "2-1-1" schedule. This means taking 2 pills 2-24 hours before sex, 1 pill 24 hours after the first dose, and 1 pill 24 hours after the second dose.

There is scientific evidence that the "2-1-1" schedule provides effective protection for gay and bisexual men* when having anal sex without a condom.

We don't know how "on-demand" PrEP works for heterosexual men and women, people who inject drugs, and transgender persons.

The are some side effects of course but seem to be tolerated pretty well.

So does anyone know if you can get them there?

Been to a Kenya a few times and met 'nice' - ok smart women who wanted to get a rapid HIV test together.

This is great but not for a quick pickup.

Thoughts?

[Mombie75]

A first timer to Africa, I traveled to Nairobi in early January 2024 for 10 days. It wasn't a pure mongering trip, but in this post I will focus on just that. Many things written in this forum are true, so I will just add a few personal observations.

CLUBS: Nairobi Street Kitchen is full on Thursdays.

"207 Lounge" I was quoted at the door 1 HR 4 k KSH incl. Room, 12 HR takeout 10 k KSH. Not cheap, but 50% of the girls were young and hot. Small, friendly and "cozy" place with a massive outdoor area with separated, open tents to sit in.

Where are these two places. Anymore info?

Thanks.

[Senser]

A first timer to Africa, I traveled to Nairobi in early January 2024 for 10 days. It wasn't a pure mongering trip, but in this post I will focus on just that. Many things written in this forum are true, so I will just add a few personal observations.

CLUBS: Nairobi Street Kitchen is full on Thursdays. Alchemist seems quiet on weekdays and busy on weekends. Generally, nightlife in Westlands seems to start at midnight. During the week, one needs to know which clubs are "hot", especially Monday to Wednesday.

STRIPCLUB: Liddos was closed (temporarily, it seems). Standing in the street and trying to figure out what to do next, I ran into the only Kenyan guy that did not want something from me. He mentioned "207 Lounge" and walked away. I was quoted at the door 1 HR 4 k KSH incl. Room, 12 HR takeout 10 k KSH. Not cheap, but 50% of the girls were young and hot. Small, friendly and "cozy" place with a massive outdoor area with separated, open tents to sit in. Didn't see a foreigner there.

APPS: Girls on apps are young, horny, and abundant. Many are blessed with bodies that Western women couldn't achieve even if they worked out 5 days a week. As a rule of thumb, Tinder is more for paid hook-ups whereas Bumble is more for girls with "normal jobs". As the latter doesn't mean much in Kenya, realistically, the differences are minimal. The "programmer" you match with on Bumble may be really able to code, or just "plans" to be a programmer "next year". In general, if you want "normal" dating (I. E. , without pre-arranged service agreements), be prepared to be taken advantage of. Not always, but sometimes. Which brings me to the next point:

CULTURE: Kenyans are open and friendly, however, the amount of time and effort they are willing to invest just to get a few bucks out of you is simply mind-boggling. Guys on the streets will walk with you for hours and tell you the nicest stories about orphanages, schools etc. Just to get something out of you, even if it's just a few hundred shilling. Girls, especially the "regular" girls with "jobs", will spend entire afternoons and evenings with you for a a few drinks, or a dinner. If you're strictly after sex, it makes more sense to go for the semi-pro's with the pre-arranged "taxi money". If you want the thrill of "regular dating", be prepared to be astonished by the level of work Kenyan girls put in for a little bit of attention and a hot dish. Without guaranteed sex. As most Kenyan women, pro or non-pro, generally enjoy jokes and appreciate a healthy amount of dirty smalltalk, I suggest to do just that before the date in a relaxed & playful manner and filter out the ones that are not responsive (BTW this strategy works in the West too, although you must be more careful and less direct).

CONCLUSION: After a self-imposed 2-year hiatus from dating in order to free up energy to work on myself, I enjoyed Kenya a lot. The feeling of dating a hot 20-something that can hold a conversation (yes, they exist), and has a good sense of humor, meant a lot to me. Nevertheless, "regular" dating in Kenya means there's a chance you run into girls that will take you for a ride without putting out. In Europe, I have a three-date rule, in Kenya that's down to two dates, and I almost believe that's still one date too much. Kenya's economy and demographics means that there's not too much of a difference both in looks and brains between semi-pro's and "regular girls". They all need to make a living. And that's the true value that Kenya holds for men: There's an abundance of women everywhere. Whatever you do, you will get laid by a hot 20-something that loves having sex.

[Radical Guy]

Very apt description. If no cash is forthcoming. To wine and dine. Rookie mistake. Straight cash transaction and bullshit about "I love you baby" works out much cheaper and cost effective. These college girls are all after funding. Like university students. Just do the deed give money in the morning. Then she can buy herself public transport and kuku with chips. Of course she romances you to become one of her lovers to help funding her studies. Sugar daddy deals. But you're not the only one. Sooner or later reality sets in. After all. It's better to keep to transactional jiggi jiggi. Don't worry. Once you're in her data base. I. E. Phone contact Shree going to call you again. As I have reiterated before. Wine and dine useless expense. No need to romance an African girl. Utter waste of money. With cash you help her with her actual living expenses.

Mwalimu.

But the romancing part can be fun, even if one knows it's an illusion. I have no qualms about being less than honest with the ladies.

RG.

[Neddy69]

Metaphysics aside, many have posted in so many words that whatever your experience is with the Kenyan ladies, it's still transactional, P4 P or GFE. None of us should be fooled, or so foolish, not to recognize: you WILL pay, one way or the other. Just be sure it's to your benefit.

Although I certainly already knew this by heart, I just got hard reminded of it during my recent trip: meet a "college" (in Kenya, colleges are for those who can't afford or don't have the grades for university) Kenchic via Tinder, who was more alluring than sexy based on her pics & vids from her profile. Still, ended up hooking up with her, in person she was really a hot number, slim but fully sexy in the way she dressed, and better au naturel perfect t&a. Was a sweet spinner in the sack, and has good head game. We quickly established a girl friendly experience (GFE), she INITIALLY seems eager just to have someone (foreign) to hang with during Christmas holidays, at a fancy apt complex with pool, chill common areas, gameroom, etc. I was glad to have the company. And the sex. No money was ever negotiated but of course it was free food, wine, transport, some phone credit, traveling, entertainment to her. All on my expense..

Very apt description. If no cash is forthcoming. To wine and dine. Rookie mistake. Straight cash transaction and bullshit about "I love you baby" works out much cheaper and cost effective. These college girls are all after funding. Like university students. Just do the deed give money in the morning. Then she can buy herself public transport and kuku with chips. Of course she romances you to become one of her lovers to help funding her studies. Sugar daddy deals. But you're not the only one. Sooner or later reality sets in. After all. It's better to keep to transactional jiggi jiggi. Don't worry. Once you're in her data base. I. E. Phone contact Shree going to call you again. As I have reiterated before. Wine and dine useless expense. No need to romance an African girl. Utter waste of money. With cash you help her with her actual living expenses.

Mwalimu.