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  1. #1816
    Quote Originally Posted by Coalburner69  [View Original Post]
    Even laughable, but nothing new here. Inflated numbers = inflated aid.
    Even though I remember little else of Statistics 101, I will never forget " FIGURES LIE and LIERS FIGURE "

  2. #1815
    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Benetar  [View Original Post]
    I hazard the guess that the reported numbers are suspect.
    Even laughable, but nothing new here. Inflated numbers = inflated aid.

  3. #1814

    Tsk, tsk. I had put so much faith in those per capita income numbers

    Interesting read on inaccuracy of reported gross economic figures in Africa, for many of us, especially moi, who go to per capita numbers to guage monger friendly locales.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/opinion/numbers-africa-jerven/index.html?hpt=wo_bn7


    " (CNN). What do we know about poverty, income and growth in sub-Saharan Africa? The answer is: much less than we like to think. The data is unreliable and potentially seriously misleading. The question is of great importance. Economic growth rates or per-capita income estimates are commonly used in statements about development in Africa."

  4. #1813
    Quote Originally Posted by Zimzam  [View Original Post]
    Scientists have come to our help by doing an extensive survey about prostitution in Nairobi named:

    "Enumeration of Sex Workers in the Central Business District of Nairobi, Kenya".

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0054354
    Thanks Zimzam; excellent report. I was intrigued by the trend of increasing SW's since 2008. I hazard the guess that the reported numbers are suspect, though the trend likely very real. Demographics forward should continue to make this trend our friend.
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  5. #1812
    Quote Originally Posted by Zimzam  [View Original Post]
    Scientists have come to our help by doing an extensive survey about prostitution in Nairobi.

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0054354
    In Nairobi every lady can be your ***** depending what do you offer. Give a nice house rent monthly and you get 100% of the girl you see.

  6. #1811
    Quote Originally Posted by zimzam  [View Original Post]
    scientists have come to our help by doing an extensive survey about prostitution in nairobi named:

    "enumeration of sex workers in the central business district of nairobi, kenya".

    over a 5-day period, peer educators prepared a list of all known hotspots within nairobi cbd. the research team then interviewed selected key informants including taxi drivers, bar owners, and bouncers to identify and confirm potential hot spots.

    in the mapping exercise. 137 hotspots were identified, and included 71 bars (51. 8%).47 street-based venues (34. 3%).10 hotels (7. 3%).5 sex dens (3. 6%) , and 4 (2. 9%) strip clubs. eleven (9%) of these hotspots were noted to be busy during both day and night and therefore the timing of the enumeration was expanded for these sites. a total of 34 teams, each consisting of at least two enumerators and one or more sex workers peer leaders, were formed. the teams were further clustered into five groups each under two supervisors. the supervisors oversaw how the group members conducted the enumeration at allocated hotspots.

    on day one, a total of 3, 070 sex workers were counted. 327 sex workers refused, and 228 were busy with clients (table 1). on day two. 2,901 sex workers were captured. 1,290 of whom were recaptures. on day 2, 243 sex workers refused to participate in the exercise while another 205 were busy with clients. based on these data, nairobi cbd was estimated to host 6, 904 sex workers with 95% confidence intervals between 6, 690 and 7, 118.

    we utilized a combined mapping and capture-recapture enumeration exercise. the majority of identified hotspots in this study were bars. based on this exercise, we estimate that 6, 904 male and female sex workers (95% confidence intervals. 6690 and 7118) were working nightly in the nairobi cbd in april 2009. wide ranges of captures per spot were obtained, suggesting that relatively few hot spots (18%) contain a relatively high proportion of the area's sex workers (65%).

    the full report can be seen here:

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0054354
    good find zimzam, now to overlay a map of the places over the picture in the report. the only place i recognise is:

    a031 florida

  7. #1810
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocampo2  [View Original Post]
    You can get intouch with me if you want some intell.
    Thanks for the offer Ocampo but don't have PM myself. Will need to get a subscription. Like the report though.

  8. #1809

    Good job done by scientists.

    scientists have come to our help by doing an extensive survey about prostitution in nairobi named:

    "enumeration of sex workers in the central business district of nairobi, kenya".

    over a 5-day period, peer educators prepared a list of all known hotspots within nairobi cbd. the research team then interviewed selected key informants including taxi drivers, bar owners, and bouncers to identify and confirm potential hot spots.

    in the mapping exercise. 137 hotspots were identified, and included 71 bars (51. 8%).47 street-based venues (34. 3%).10 hotels (7. 3%).5 sex dens (3. 6%) , and 4 (2. 9%) strip clubs. eleven (9%) of these hotspots were noted to be busy during both day and night and therefore the timing of the enumeration was expanded for these sites. a total of 34 teams, each consisting of at least two enumerators and one or more sex workers peer leaders, were formed. the teams were further clustered into five groups each under two supervisors. the supervisors oversaw how the group members conducted the enumeration at allocated hotspots.

    on day one, a total of 3, 070 sex workers were counted. 327 sex workers refused, and 228 were busy with clients (table 1). on day two. 2,901 sex workers were captured. 1,290 of whom were recaptures. on day 2, 243 sex workers refused to participate in the exercise while another 205 were busy with clients. based on these data, nairobi cbd was estimated to host 6, 904 sex workers with 95% confidence intervals between 6, 690 and 7, 118.

    we utilized a combined mapping and capture-recapture enumeration exercise. the majority of identified hotspots in this study were bars. based on this exercise, we estimate that 6, 904 male and female sex workers (95% confidence intervals. 6690 and 7118) were working nightly in the nairobi cbd in april 2009. wide ranges of captures per spot were obtained, suggesting that relatively few hot spots (18%) contain a relatively high proportion of the area's sex workers (65%).

    the full report can be seen here:

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0054354
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails NAIROBI.jpg‎  

  9. #1808
    Quote Originally Posted by Coalburner69  [View Original Post]
    Yes, this place is a total rip off. The old skank who owns the place is an outright crook and I've told her so. Your description is pretty spot on and I might add that the 2-3 massage rooms there (and I use the term loosely) lack privacy (sound wise) and to make matters worse, there's no running water in the 'office space' she's renting. She also lives on-site so she must be taking bird baths in the public bathroom on the same floor. Talent wise, girls are in the 3-6 range and are trained in the art of up selling by the resident crook.

    A better option:

    Although far from nirvana, Dev Towers on Biashara st has several massage parlours. I recommend 'La Celeb' (sp?) on the 5th Floor. Girls are typically in the 5-8 range and they have decent rooms and showering facilities. You negotiate the total fee (incl extras) directly with masseuse and NOT the owner who is a straight shooter and a good masseuse in her own right.

    Sadly, if massage is your thing, forget Africa.
    Well, I guess my visit to Gill House is cancelled then. Do you have any idea of what the total price could be in La Celeb? On the other side of Tom Mboya St. The prices are 1, 500. 2,000. Biashara St. Being on the 'nicer' side of the city, I'm wondering whether their prices are also not higher.

  10. #1807

    I didn't know about that I had to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naked Gunz  [View Original Post]
    Turn on your PM
    Anyways, Let me turn it on for the sake of the hobby.

  11. #1806

    Would love some contacts in Nairobi but you can't send me a private message?

    Would love some contacts in Nairobi but you can't send me a private message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocampo2  [View Original Post]
    For those who do not know me, I used to hunt in Nairobi some years back. So I know it like the palm of my hands. I tend to enjoy girls who are natives of the land, those that grew up in the village and has just come to Nairobi for education, some have never been to Nairobi, they are there for the first time to meet me.

    I moved out of Nairobi so I Los Angeles is my regular hunting ground these days so if you are in LA, we can get some drinks and compare notes. I visit Kenya, often and here is one of my reports.

    I got this chick online and we chatted a little. I could tell she was a newbie, never been in the business. I said, I would like to know her so that I become her penpal.

    Well, she agreed to come hang out for a day in Nairobi.

    I got to JKIA, took a taxi to Downtown and wait for her at 680, we check in together so those people don't bother me. She is just the right size and look. Looks soo innocent I could not wait to show her a few tricks.

    We check in, go into out room and I suggest shower together (I usually feel dirty after the long flight). This is also my trick of introducing newbies to Oral. Well the shower ended with a nice head and was very relaxing.

    I pop in my pills and then get to work. Seems like she has not been broken (or if she had been, it has been a while since she had a guy). She kept crying every time I try to come in (I am not that big) , she offers BBBJ again for a while. I used my finger to make her wet and finally I managed to get in and she is moaning! Not sure due to pain or enjoyment. Anyways, we do all positions, and I pop 3 times then we nap a for some time then we go refuel in the near by "hoteli".

    We came back, played some more then slept. I escorted her in the morning to catch a bus home. I gave her taxi money KSh. 2000. She is lovely, I will see her again if I get back to Nairobi. She is a nice girl, agem. I have her contacts. Nice senior members can contact me.

  12. #1805
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocampo2  [View Original Post]
    . I tend to enjoy girls who are natives of the land, those that grew up in the village and has just come to Nairobi for education, some have never been to Nairobi.
    The Photo looks like she is from Switzerland (near Nairobi). Hahaha.

  13. #1804
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocampo2  [View Original Post]
    Nice senior members can contact me.
    Turn on your PM

  14. #1803

    Young College hottie

    For those who do not know me, I used to hunt in Nairobi some years back. So I know it like the palm of my hands. I tend to enjoy girls who are natives of the land, those that grew up in the village and has just come to Nairobi for education, some have never been to Nairobi, they are there for the first time to meet me.

    I moved out of Nairobi so I Los Angeles is my regular hunting ground these days so if you are in LA, we can get some drinks and compare notes. I visit Kenya, often and here is one of my reports.

    I got this chick online and we chatted a little. I could tell she was a newbie, never been in the business. I said, I would like to know her so that I become her penpal.

    Well, she agreed to come hang out for a day in Nairobi.

    I got to JKIA, took a taxi to Downtown and wait for her at 680, we check in together so those people don't bother me. She is just the right size and look. Looks soo innocent I could not wait to show her a few tricks.

    We check in, go into out room and I suggest shower together (I usually feel dirty after the long flight). This is also my trick of introducing newbies to Oral. Well the shower ended with a nice head and was very relaxing.

    I pop in my pills and then get to work. Seems like she has not been broken (or if she had been, it has been a while since she had a guy). She kept crying every time I try to come in (I am not that big) , she offers BBBJ again for a while. I used my finger to make her wet and finally I managed to get in and she is moaning! Not sure due to pain or enjoyment. Anyways, we do all positions, and I pop 3 times then we nap a for some time then we go refuel in the near by "hoteli".

    We came back, played some more then slept. I escorted her in the morning to catch a bus home. I gave her taxi money KSh. 2000. She is lovely, I will see her again if I get back to Nairobi. She is a nice girl, agem. I have her contacts. Nice senior members can contact me.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails njer.jpg‎  

  15. #1802

    Man have fun

    Quote Originally Posted by Globo  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I am planning a trip to Nairobi the week starting the 15th April. I was wondering if any other senior members may be around that week and interested in meeting up for a beer and some info?
    You can get intouch with me if you want some intell.

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