Nairobi

[SceticoBlu]

"Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!" (Rwenotmen)


It happened to me recently in Kisumu with booking.com They even had confirmed my booking the day before via email. On arrival at the airport I gave my taxidriver their number that they direct us there. But they directed us to a different place because my apartment had been given to someone else. Of course I did not accept and went to an alternative place.

Now to the quoted proposal. On booking.com reviews are possible only after having actually stayed in the place. However I wrote a report on google. booking.com apologized but the accomodation not.

[Rwenotmen]

(Thanks Brother IHeartIpa for sharing!

Might be time to share some advice on dealing with AirBnb listings. Let's all share our advice & wisdom.

Remember the days when we had few options other than hotels?? Yes, the Bad Ole Days.

Despite Abb being a great option, "This is Kenya", so you know scamming, corruption, and unadulterated incompetence are going to be major factors in trying to find good listings. Over the years, here's what I've learned:

(1) Read ALL the reviews. Why? Because real, honest details about the place will hopefully be buried in there. Details that the Host should have put in the Description.

For example, too many Hosts conveniently fail to mention that their unit is on the fourth or fifth or higher floors -- in a NO-elevator building.

If you're lucky, one of the previous Guests will announce this "oversight" in their review. So you'll be forewarned.

If you do stay in such a place, and no previous review mentions something like this, PUT IT IN YOUR REVIEW. Help future customers to avoid such nonsense.

(2) Many Hosts 'buy' good reviews.

They either have their friends book a night or two, but they never stay there, the Host refunds their money, just to get the good review. OR-- there are people out there who offer to give good reviews for a small fee, so the Host does a similar trick with them.

(Abb doesn't care--they still get their cut from a refunded listing. And having so many bogus profiles that have "actually" booked listings, makes the Abb service look more legit that it really is).

The easiest way to start spotting bogus reviews is when there are many one- maybe 2-liner good reviews; and then you'll spot that very-detailed critical or outright bad review. Then you know most if not all those previous one-liners are bogus.

(3) Never book a listing with No Reviews.

I don't care how lovely the pics are, or how surprisingly cheap such a beautifully-furnished 2 BR in Spring Valley for 19 USD seems -- don't do it.

Let the scammer start popping bogus reviews. Which you now know how to spot. Or let some other brave soul be the first legit customer, wait to get their impressions.

(4) Look for and try to book the 'Free Cancellation' listings.

This way, if you find a better deal close to you check-in date, you can cancel with no loss.

(5) Be cautious of the 3-day Minimum listings.

My strategy has always been, book 1 or 2 nights (even in no-Cancellation spots), test the quality. If I like it, I tell the Host that I'm extending. I even try to bargain for discount. If not unreasonable, they may agree.

Some Hosts have sniffed out this strat, now they require 3-day minimums, or no cancellation at all. I avoid these, unless I know the place already, enough to book a longer stay anyway.

(6) Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!

I've had one experience where the Host (and her crony) had photos of a place on Rhapta Rd, with loads of good reviews, but when the payment was made and nearing the arrival, said that 'due to Covid' they had to do an emergency cleaning, so offered my & my friends another flat in Valley Arcade. Although we were lucky that there actually was a place, it's quality was nowhere near the photos on the listing.

This is one where I had not read ALL the reviews; if I had, I would have seen 2 or more that complained about the same thing.

I wrote in my review, and in the chat with the Host, that I was reporting her to ABB Corporate. What is more miraculous is that someone from ABB did actually respond. Soon after that, the listing was killed.

I'm sure that didn't stop the scammers from opening another bogus listing. But I haven't seen them or that previous listing for 2 years.

(7) Sometime the map marker is not near the actual location. Worse, is when the marker is NOwhere near the location!

This one may still happen: e. G. The marker shows the place 'near' Parklands, but the Description may outright say it's in NaiWest.

It's obvious the Host is trying to get guests she or he normally wouldn't. (I don't recommend anywhere in NaiWest, however, there is one building that was 'okay'.).

If the actually location is one you're aware of, and like, maybe let this (white?) lie slide. Otherwise, just strike it from your list of potentials.

(8) No review for more than a year? Skip it!

One good thing about Bad Hosts-- if no one has reviewed their listing in more than a year, wow it must really be bad! Skip these now 'zombie' listings, which Abb allows to sit in the search pool.

So, what are your advice, experiences, wisdoms about AirBnb?

[IHeartIpa]

Are you using AirBnb or some other service? Share!

I joined 2 different Airbnb Kenya groups on FB and posted what I wanted, and joined a telegram group also. You get plenty of messages but a lot of junk, places in bad areas, or just people who message everyone with their apartment even if it doesn't fit the posters requirements. I ended up paying full monthly price on a regular Airbnb place after going to see it and had the owner agree to reduce the price if I stay longer.

[Rwenotmen]

After a rough start to my trip I made it. Flying BKK to NBO and waited nearly 2 hours in line at BKK airport to then have a **** tell me I need a return / outgoing ticket when its already an hour to departure. I'm flying Qatar so try to book with them website doesn't work I have to go upstairs to ticket office etc. I cut it close but made it the flight. On arrival of course they didn't ask for it.

I had the same happen to me Dec 2020 also with Qatar A. (at Heathrow). Luckily I had it. (Ever since then, I've always pre-booked a return, even if I plan to extend it.) And same--got to NBO, they never asked about it.

I wonder if this is something strict with Qatar airlines.

Productive first day Uber'ing around and checking out some apartments. Even knowing what to expect going in regarding prices its still a bit shocking. Ended up getting a place for a month+ and paying a bit more than my budget but not its my first time might as well enjoy it.

Are you using AirBnb or some other service? Share!

[IHeartIpa]

After a rough start to my trip I made it. Flying BKK to NBO and waited nearly 2 hours in line at BKK airport to then have a **** tell me I need a return / outgoing ticket when its already an hour to departure. I'm flying Qatar so try to book with them website doesn't work I have to go upstairs to ticket office etc. I cut it close but made it the flight. On arrival of course they didn't ask for it.

Productive first day Uber'ing around and checking out some apartments. Even knowing what to expect going in regarding prices its still a bit shocking. Ended up getting a place for a month+ and paying a bit more than my budget but not its my first time might as well enjoy it.

I've never been one to take pics of girls but will try to revitalize this thread with some in the coming weeks.

[Slowalk]

I had a 20 note in a small bag on my table... I notice it is missing!

In my book, taking something loose from a table is different than removing something from a bag from a table and taking it. Hopefully the note was all that was taken.

[Naked Gunz]

Well played. Perfect gentleman. Leave money on the table so as not to embarrass the chic. They're not hookers. They're sweet creatures in need of funds. LOL. That's how a professional Africa operator works. Exemplary. At these few overpriced night clubs I just drink some beers. The best pussy you just pull off the street. Any time any place. The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun. I loved the roof terrace. In 2012 that was. I don't understand how dumb can the proprietor be to rename one of the last classic institutions in Westlands Boss Den. Mwalimu.Who eyes more places like Kinshasa.

Oh well at least I know what to tell the Uber dude where to take me. I used Tinder most of the time anyway when I was last in Nai before Covid. Of course I got surprises, both good and bad, when the girl showed up at the door. Yes Nairobi is certainly not as before when the good times rolled.

[Neddy69]

Just had a few nights in Nairobi on my way home from Mombasa.

Went to what was Black Diamond and is now Boss Den on Sunday night. Was around 10-15 ladies in, 3-4 were definitely fuckable. The one I had my eye on was a little 5 ft busty light brown one. She asked for 10 k, I laughed and she realized I was not silly and then said okay 5 k is my price. I was tempted but in tne end just left alone. Most of the time I can be bothered at the end of the night and usually get numbers for evening meets.

On my last day I was strolling around town and there is this little 5 ft, short natural hair, tight body with that usually juicy ass walking on by me. I had to introduce myself. After 30 minutes stroll, chat and a juice for her we were heading to my airbnb as she was waiting for her laptop being repaired. Once inside I said I was going to shower and she should join me. She did so and after soaping her up I got her on the bed and applied baby oil to that pert ass for a massage. Was not long before we were going at it, she liked to ride in a weird position but it got her off as she had a nice leg shaking orgasm before I lay her down on ner front and power fucked her from behind to shoot my bolt. Money was never mentioned. However, I had a 20 note in a small bag on my table and after showering and getting ready to see her off I notice it is missing! I just say nothing and see her off. I sms her an hour later and ask about my 20, of coarse she denies all so it must of got up and walked off on its own. Anyways, she was worth it.

Well played. Perfect gentleman. Leave money on the table so as not to embarrass the chic. They're not hookers. They're sweet creatures in need of funds. LOL. That's how a professional Africa operator works. Exemplary. At these few overpriced night clubs I just drink some beers. The best pussy you just pull off the street. Any time any place. The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun. I loved the roof terrace. In 2012 that was. I don't understand how dumb can the proprietor be to rename one of the last classic institutions in Westlands Boss Den.

Mwalimu.

Who eyes more places like Kinshasa.

[Mombie75]

Just had a few nights in Nairobi on my way home from Mombasa.

Went to what was Black Diamond and is now Boss Den on Sunday night. Was around 10-15 ladies in, 3-4 were definitely fuckable. The one I had my eye on was a little 5 ft busty light brown one. She asked for 10 k, I laughed and she realized I was not silly and then said okay 5 k is my price. I was tempted but in tne end just left alone. Most of the time I can be bothered at the end of the night and usually get numbers for evening meets.

On my last day I was strolling around town and there is this little 5 ft, short natural hair, tight body with that usually juicy ass walking on by me. I had to introduce myself. After 30 minutes stroll, chat and a juice for her we were heading to my airbnb as she was waiting for her laptop being repaired. Once inside I said I was going to shower and she should join me. She did so and after soaping her up I got her on the bed and applied baby oil to that pert ass for a massage. Was not long before we were going at it, she liked to ride in a weird position but it got her off as she had a nice leg shaking orgasm before I lay her down on ner front and power fucked her from behind to shoot my bolt. Money was never mentioned. However, I had a £20 note in a small bag on my table and after showering and getting ready to see her off I notice it is missing! I just say nothing and see her off. I sms her an hour later and ask about my £20, of coarse she denies all so it must of got up and walked off on its own. Anyways, she was worth it.

[Radical Guy]

More photos.

I love that hairy pussy. I hate when they're shaved.

[Westcoast 1951]

More photos.

[Westcoast 1951]

Had glorious time with her.

[Kaappo22]

Recently there was a case in Mtwapa where a German guy arranged with a girl to come to his house.

Immediately when he opened the door a man who was accompanying the girl came out of the blue and put a knife on the throat of the muzungu and asked for a lot of money.

When the victim could convince the robbers that he did not have a lot of money on him they left with whatever they could grab, leaving the victim unhurt.

Anything can happen. Still, mugging is easier to set up when the client visits strange places.

To make it even more safe one could book a house / hotel / apartment with a guard on the gate, and / or meet the girl in a nearby cafe or other public place and travel there Uber if it worries one's mind. Personally I wouldn't worry too much about such when inviting girls over, quick hands snatching something when inside the room is more probable.

[SceticoBlu]

Visa extension and first time application are made online.

In theory only. I was told extensions don't work online or last endlessly. So one has to show up in the immigration office or send someone handing over 2-3 K.

[Zimzam]

Much safer in terms of mugging and scams to have the girl come to you. Never pay in advance, at most order an Uber for her to come. You certainly could agree on the price online before the girl comes over to avoid unpleasant surprises and wasting your time, no risk in talking about that.

Recently there was a case in Mtwapa where a German guy arranged with a girl to come to his house.

Immediately when he opened the door a man who was accompanying the girl came out of the blue and put a knife on the throat of the muzungu and asked for a lot of money.

When the victim could convince the robbers that he did not have a lot of money on him they left with whatever they could grab, leaving the victim unhurt.