Nairobi

[Neddy69]

Thank you. Do you have a hotel, guest house recommendation for Kabalagala?

https://www.agoda.com/de-de/african-...71e&tspTypes=8

Try African Tribe Hotel. I did not stay there. It's in Makindiye. I'm not giving accommodation recommendations. RTFF. I don't know of anybody's preferences and standards. Things change very quickly in Africa. Places close down or become noisy overnight. Mosque or church with midnight service nearby. Noisy Drinking dens. Don't forget. Bars were closed in Uganda füare the better part of 18 months. M7 decreed opening as of Jan. 1st 2022. But if Capital is open. Nobody knows.

Mwalimu.

[Rwenotmen]

Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and Booking.com. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

BTW thanks Neddy and Slowalk about the visa & PCR / covid *updated* information.

I do want to disagree with one point. With all due respect to Brother Neddy: there's no way any tourist or mongerer is going to know safe / cheap / etc places that are Not-hotels or not-Abb -- unless they already have intimate knowledge of the locations. Which 99% will not.

Doesn't matter if the places are dingy (most are not, some are) or overpriced (which, most are!

The purpose of these forums IS< to share such intimate info.

If people won't share that info, then rest of us should suggest / recommend hotels or Abbs.

I gave advice on how to filter Abb listings:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...robi&p=2223797#post2223797.

I gave advice about *possible* Abb options:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...robi&p=2522990#post2522990.

I suggest members provide more *specific* information, for all our benefit.

[Kommissar1231]

Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and Booking.com. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

Mwalimu.

Thank you. Do you have a hotel, guest house recommendation for Kabalagala?

[Neddy69]

Neddy69: From the information I gathered on the different sub-forums, I see that you have been around Kampala, Kigali and Nairobi. I am staying at Woodmere in Nairobi and Kahama in Mombasa but I am wondering if you had any hotel / Airbnb recommendations for Kampala and Kigali? From what I see on Airbnb and even booking.com, a lot of places seem dodgy at best. Or I am just spoiled from living in Thailand where really nice hotels can be had for 1,000 Baht a night.

Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and Booking.com. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

Mwalimu.

[Kommissar1231]

Neddy69: From the information I gathered on the different sub-forums, I see that you have been around Kampala, Kigali and Nairobi. I am staying at Woodmere in Nairobi and Kahama in Mombasa but I am wondering if you had any hotel / Airbnb recommendations for Kampala and Kigali? From what I see on Airbnb and even booking.com, a lot of places seem dodgy at best. Or I am just spoiled from living in Thailand where really nice hotels can be had for 1,000 Baht a night.

[Neddy69]

Just discovered this site. Some Africa veterans and some thinking it ought to be like Thailand. Am resident in Kisumu. Did anyone check out the Place club there?

Check out the Other areas subforum. This is the Nairobi Forum. I wrote a few pieces about Kisumu. But very few Forum members make it there. I was there when Buccaneers Strip Club was swinging. Last elections that was. 2017.

Mwalimu.

[Crow2]

Just discovered this site. Some Africa veterans and some thinking it ought to be like Thailand. Am resident in Kisumu. Did anyone check out the Place club there?

[Leblon]

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system and I can't enter symptoms. The system is supposed to notify the phone number you used to create the form. If not, you still can access the system by entering the number you used. Mine just tells me my number is invalid. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.

I have not heard before that I should login to some system and report covid reports. I did not do it last time and nobody asked about it when I left the country.

This QR form is kind of joke yes, I filled it couple of weeks before flight to Kenya and told that I had not covid symptoms. And I have to put there a seat number, which I had of course no idea, so I put 60 always.

There was some discussion about problems with ATMs. Although I wrote to Mombasa forum my story about ATM stolen my money, that was only time that I have had problems in Kenya. I am counting on ATMS, I don't carry very much foreign cash with me. Couple of time my foreign cash has been stolen by some girl, I haven't even known who of my many visitors.

Also, nowadays in Kenya I pay in supermarkets and in restaturants by card directly, I don't have to visit ATM so often as before.

There has not been card cloning problems like in for example South America, there I am afraid to pay by card.

I have not got problems with Visa Online either.

[Member #4740]

You forgot to mention. Illegal.

Neddy.

It is llegal at the immigration office. You can get a retirement visa or whatever. Money talk.

[Neddy69]

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system do I can't enter symptoms. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.

Africans and IT. The whole rubbish doesn't even work in Europe. They once said KISS. For that reason I love Guinea Bissau. They still type the residence permit by typewriter. Even if some countries have IT systems now. They're not working as they're supposed to work. The results range from hilarious to annoying. And now these online health declarations take the BS to a new level.

Old but hilarious story.

Guy arrives at Monrovia on the height of the civil war. He virtually has all paperwork in order. Even a valid Visa! Customs and immigration highly annoyed because they can't sell him a Visa and make a few hundred bucks. They took away his passport until he paid up a couple of hundred dollars in order to enter Liberia.

That's the positive in Africa. It's called corruption.

You can buy any paper and any stamp. I was offered from captains licence or genuine IDs. You name it. The problem now are the EVisa. The Airlines don't let you board without one. You probably get still VoA in Entebbe. But. See above.

Neddy.

[Slowalk]

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system and I can't enter symptoms. The system is supposed to notify the phone number you used to create the form. If not, you still can access the system by entering the number you used. Mine just tells me my number is invalid. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.

[Neddy69]

Wrong, you can extend forever.

You forgot to mention. Illegal. But possible. And technically it's not an extension. An Immigration officer actually stamps you out and in again
technically you have left the country virtually and return virtually... Cost depends who you know between 20 and 30k KSH. I know people who live 12 years on illegal Visa extensions in Kenya. Do I recommend it? No. And do yourself a favor. Never mention people or places where you can obtain it in the forum...

Neddy.

[Member #4740]

when my two 90 day visas are up, I must leave the country

Wrong, you can extend forever.

[Slowalk]

Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.

One issue with an eVisa is that my credit card is almost always rejected the first time. I must verify multiple times which is inconvenient from my home country but downright aggravating when I'm out of my country.

Another issue is I'm playing visa-go-round when my two 90 day visas are up, I must leave the country and start the process over from another country. I met some who do the South Africa-Namibia-Botswana circuit with no visa at all. I can go from Kenya to Tanzania for a VoA but not to Uganda unless I have a eVisa. Again, what difference does it make when Uganda Immigration pastes a white man's passport with a black woman' photo visa?

[Neddy69]

Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.

It's BS. Why. Because it doesn't work. I know scores of people having troubles. For example credit cards not working. Payment denied. The Ugandan website is sometimes not even working or very slow. A mate of mine gave up. Corruption. Not a reason either. In Tanzania you pay the Visa fee at the bank counter. So no immigration officer touches cash. There's plenty of old people who don't know how to operate a PC. It's a nightmare. They tried to introduce it couple of years back. And it didn't work back then either. These countries will lose tourist dollars every day by making it as inconvenient as possible. Do the EVisa and have fun. Make sure you have the proper passport picture resolution for example. No more than 256 kb. If you're denied Visa you lose 51 $ or you have to reschedule your flight. I am not interested in that BS.

Senegal learned from past mistakes by eliminating Visa anyway. Stamp in passport. Finish.

Neddy.