Nairobi

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Man, I'm literally sitting here at Mambo meat house in Kileleshwa with a sore the*ck. BTW, the food is good here.

My local "GF" of the less than a week is sexing me senseless. I have not paid ONE cent outside of the couple dates. Her sister came over to me while I was eating lunch. The sister seems to be mid thirties, but my girl is only 25. Last night, her other married sister hosted at their home and they cooked for me. Afterwards my "GF" came back with me and I really wasn't looking for it to be honest because we screwed like crazy the previous night. She says she only had one boyfriend and had not dated for a long time.

These are not poor Kenyans. The family has a nice home in a gated community. The husband grilled me lightly on my visit and plans. I do have some serious thoughts of buying a condo here. I know I'm being set for the long game. I only have a couple weeks before heading to Kampala and I don't mind chilling with her. She is super sweet and can't stop kissing me. The only problem is getting her to leave in the morning which is stretching past noon now.

My point in all of this is that there are all kinds of ways to get sex in Kenya. From the fine waitresses at Art Caffe on Kimanthi that I will not get to smash now, to randoms everywhere you go, I see no reason for anyone to have problems. I could easily post WhatsApp receipts, but I don't feel the need to prove myself. I'm not here to argue with sad men. I highly recommend anyone who is on the fence to visit Nairobi!

[JoeF479]

Guys, no offense to anyone here. But chill out. Who cares what one pays. I've paid $500 in the US for an average chick because I can and the equivalent of $40 to a super hot chick in Medellin and everything in between. It really is irrelevant. Unless you are there, each situation is different. Even with the same girl. We should be super appreciative of anyone who post real info and real experiences here as it helps everyone. PEACE.

[Rwenotmen]

(at) AlwaysHorny2 / (at) Tottem: now-now brothers, no need to bicker. We're all in the same game, just different ways of playing, hahaha.

I don't normally but there're some rare times I've paid over-market for Casual; one time was this, it was totally worth it! http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...06#post2747306. If anybody finds this chick at one of the Bistros or elsewhere, let me know!

Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. ... But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too.

And this is it, exactly: when ya want In&Out, then 5 K and under is acceptable; for GFE, it's going to be 5 K and more, easy.

Sure it's possible to get either for 'free', but This is Kenya (TM) -- you're going to pay, one way or another, eventually.

I typically want GFE, as my visits are usually 1-3 months at a time, and I don't want the headache of going thru the pro / semi ratcatcher circuit. So my radar & focus is always on the ladies who will make nice virtual GFs -- yes, even at a price.

[Neddy69]

Right. Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. I'm inviting one to hike Mt Kenya with me, and two others to come to Lamu. That kind of GFE is definitely more expensive 😅. But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too. I'll definitely be more in that mode in Mombasa region.

Hiking? Most kenchicks are not used to walk 100 yards. In high Heels? They take a pikipiki wherever they go. Hiking mount Kenya? You made my day. Hahaha. Invite her for chicken dinner. That's all. Waste of money and time. Romance is a western invention 200 years ago. Unknown in Africa. Just say you want jiggi jiggi for chicken and chips dinner and transport money. Don't get complicated. These are not western spoiled brain dead #metoo women. Or why do you thing I live in Africa?

Mwalimu.

[Darwin]

Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.

Right. Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. I'm inviting one to hike Mt Kenya with me, and two others to come to Lamu. That kind of GFE is definitely more expensive 😅. But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too. I'll definitely be more in that mode in Mombasa region.

[Mombie75]

Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.

[Darwin]

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? ... raise the expectations of the girls.

I've had a few successful dates off Bumble, and I give them taxi money (most of them live far, up to 1 h away from Westlands) + 4 k (none asked me for anything) and they all seem happy. Mind you, I'm really generous in bed and am having much conventional success in America & Europe, even at 51.

Anyways, I had a date tonight with a really beautiful girl, super curvy, just how I like them. Very pretty face too, she's actually acted in some minor role for a tele-novella. Lovely dinner, and towards the end she gives me the speech "well, if it's to be casual, what's in it for me. " and she asks for compensation.

I tell her that I'm very open to it, what's her ask. And she replies, completely seriously, 1000 USD.

I didn't even counter. She wanted to know what I could offer, and she was "what, it's not close to 1000?

I paid her a cab back to her place and took a motorbike home, laughing out loud on the way.

[Tottem]

I think you need to take a trip to the Grand Bazaar and learn to haggle. Whatever they quote, offer them 25 % of that amount. Then there is room to add 10% on top if you are really desperate for the goods. Fantasizing about traveling and watching "passport bros" is not the same as doing it, you have to realize the difference.

Just because you can't get pussy within the states borders does not make you a hero when overpaying for prostitutes in Africa. It is plain sad when someone frequents this forum and tries to boost their ego by claiming "I don't need to pay for pussy". The parody of the situation could even fit and episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm". Now I have the theme tune playing in my head.

One more tip on how you know the deal made was good. They don't text or call the day after.

Sidenote 1: In a twisted mind somewhere in Nairobi "she texts and calls because of my good looks, big muscles and performance in bed".

Sidenote 2: There are scientific studies showing there is a correlation between small penis and low self-esteem.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Indeed Nairobi has some absolute gems if you put a bit work into it. I prefer trying my luck with waitresses or shop staff etc as I move around rather than apps or clubs.

Was it Brew in Westlands or the Brew on Ngong Road? I find the one Westlands too loud but the Ngong Road one I like.

She asked for 8 k and I countered with 7 k haha made me laugh, I would went in with 5 k and ended up with a deal at 6 k. Like you say it is not a lot and these girls have bills and are pretty hard up for the most part unless they have a regular sponsor.

6 k?, I pay 7 k. A mind blowing experience for a whopping $7 difference? I gave the guy that squirts soap and hands napkins in the bathroom at The Alchemist $20. The idiot below would never do that. Some of these people have no soul. I am sure they are miserable in life. I treat everyone well. Including 304's. I'm going to always do me regardless. A lot of people don't post anymore because some of you are just plain pathetic.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? You should be in Pattaya, africa is not for you. Love it when American weekend warriors go over and raise the expectations of the girls. Some men are just weak and like to get bossed around. I guess a selected few has a fetish for it.

Weak? I really doubt you'd say that in my face. I knew it was just a matter of time before some CLOWN had to add his. 02. I've spent months around the world. I'm in different parts of Africa now for months. I'm a boss in life! I don't have to "pay" for pussy. I pay them to leave. She wanted to stay all night and I wasn't for it. Do you f'and read? Idiot! Sorry you need hook-ups to be able to do what you do. I'm not watching your broke ass pockets so don't be concerned about what I do with my money. Faggot.

[Mombie75]

Indeed Nairobi has some absolute gems if you put a bit work into it. I prefer trying my luck with waitresses or shop staff etc as I move around rather than apps or clubs.

Was it Brew in Westlands or the Brew on Ngong Road? I find the one Westlands too loud but the Ngong Road one I like.

She asked for 8 k and I countered with 7 k haha made me laugh, I would went in with 5 k and ended up with a deal at 6 k. Like you say it is not a lot and these girls have bills and are pretty hard up for the most part unless they have a regular sponsor.

[Tottem]

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? You should be in Pattaya, africa is not for you. Love it when American weekend warriors go over and raise the expectations of the girls. Some men are just weak and like to get bossed around. I guess a selected few has a fetish for it.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

My big one: since nearly all my dates are thru apps, 90% of the time I make the first meetup a casual one, and usually during the daytime. It gives me & her a nice chance to size up each other thru talking, while doing something social like having a meal or walking around the area (avoid malls!) so we can decide if to move forward. And believe me, quite a few times I've canceled going further, the vibe just wasn't there.

Yeah, alot more work than in our youth, but we're at the stage of life where we don't & won't put up with the nonsense from earlier days.

I think you gave golden advice IF a GFE type of experience is what you desire. I'm used to being around a certain caliber of woman for free. So, if I'm spending money, I'm definitely expecting not only high quality, but high effort. The apps are the way to go, but even with that said you still have to put in some work so you are not wasting your time or not getting the experience you desire. I had two different approaches to Tinder. Since I'm here for an extended stay, I was originally searching for a woman to spend the majority of my time. A short term GF of sorts, but the process and games just lead to frustration. What I know for a fact is that you are going to spend money regardless. Nothing is free here. The waitress I spent time with costs money indirectly with food, drinks, longer distance ubers. Had she not flamed out with the effort in the bedroom I sure she would have asked for money in the morning, but we did not make it that far. I instantly got rid of her.

So that next morning I woke up on a mission. I created a new Tinder, but this time I offered drinks and spending time with a subtle clue that money was involved. Once I matched, I was direct with meeting me at my apartment. I didn't even need to pay for the app. I had numerous options. I had the luxury of being picky on age, looks, and what I perceived to be a good attitude. Some of the higher quality women I could sense would be outrageously expensive and entitled, so I bypassed the 9's. I settled on a 26 year old, solid 8. She originally quoted 8 k. I countered with 7 k and she accepted. I probably could have gotten her for a bit cheaper, but I'm not tripping over $7-$14 difference. I spend my money as I wish and what is comfortable for my wallet. You cheap charlies can keep your gripes about overpaying to yourself.

She gets to my complex and I go down to sign her in. I was blown away. She was super sexy. She dressed and smelled great and her lips were so luscious I wanted to instantly maul her. I told her she even looked better than her pictures which was the truth. I made her a drink and let her watch tv while I took a shower. I took my time to have a good conversation with her while we drank for a little bit. I got myself comfortable with her and vice versa which I think led to amazing bedroom chemistry. She was true GFE. She kissed tenderly, but with urgency and passion. Our clothes came off in record time. It felt like she genuinely couldn't wait to have me. After an incredible session, we both fell asleep and upon waking went for round 2 which was longer and even more intense. I could sense that she wanted to stay the night, but I had dinner plans so I sent her on her way and gave a tip for such a great memory. One of my best and I've been doing this for a long time so that says a lot. I plan to see here again.

I also picked up a "free" date at Brew Bistro (Fortis) on Saturday. I got there about 10 pm so I could eat while I watched some american college football on my phone. There were some nice looking pros there. I noticed a lot of them go home without a customer so don't be afraid to bargain especially later in the evening. The food was ok, but nothing great. The tap beer was not good. I ignored all of them and then about midnight had my first drink and while standing on the other side of the bar, I was getting eye f*cked from across the bar. She was 30 years old. Medium height, with a nice ass and tits. She was good looking (7.5/10) and her smile showed true interest. I eventually made my way to her. We had a good conversation. We had drinks and did some dancing. I had a great time with her and it just flowed to her leaving with me a little after 2 am. She showered and the fun began. Great kissing, but she seemed somewhat reserved and at one point it felt like she was trying to play a good girl and sex was not going to be on the menu. We still had a nice make out session with naked grinding and foreplay. I was tired and a bit tipsy. We both fell asleep. In the early morning, more kissing and naked grinding, but this time she got on top and was teasing me in the most enjoying manner. She continued to get more excited and the p-slide was incredible because she was now super wet and the inevitable happened. A truly great session. Had to get a plan be in the morning. Oops!

The only damper was the ask for money to get her kid food and a little something for her mom since she stayed with me until about noon. With the drinks, her Uber home, and the cash I gave her I spent about 7 k. She said she hadn't had sex in awhile for reasons I won't get in to. There are definitely blurred lines here and I don't judge. The poverty her is immense so I have some empathy for the ladies situation. She did seem genuinely embarrassed to ask for money. It seems like p*ssy is everywhere here, but just know in the end, you always pay.

I could see myself having a great rotation here. I have almost 3 more weeks. There is a waitress at a coffee house that I'm making my way to again. My first visit she wasn't my server, but I felt the possibility to get here contact. She is about 25 years old, medium height, with a fantastic bubble. If I land this, I might wife her up the rest of my time here. Wish me luck! We all have our different approaches to the games and Nairobi is definitely a place where you can vary your approach. I just feel the best experiences are going to require some work and sometimes a bit of patience.

[Rwenotmen]

Again, I had one too many drinks and she just didn't show enough energy so junior really wasn't cooperating. I'm 51, so too much alcohol and lackluster effort from a woman equals a limp willy. I was ok at one point, but when it came time for the condom it was a no go. The morning was better, but only because I momentarily barebacked her and when I tried to apply the condom I lost my strength.

Brother, I feel you-- am also at the stage of life where if the vibe isn't or can't reach GFE (girl-friend experience), I hold off on the sex til maybe morning, and a few rare cases where I sent her off without doing anything (paying her something small, of course, for her 'time') For me I can't even get hard if it's all purely 'transactional', I don't do Pros.

(Man, remember those days, teens-20's-early-30's, just seeing 'Wow, naked lady!' was enough to get the rocket launched!).

My ways of hooking up now, so I can gauge and build up the GFE: I don't do bar / club hookups anymore, Nairoi doesn't have the primo pickup spots it did in its golden age. I don't drink much outside, maybe when in the apt, as you see it can affect performance. I now book abnbs to have very comfortable & private space (hotels were always impersonal). My big one: since nearly all my dates are thru apps, 90% of the time I make the first meetup a casual one, and usually during the daytime. It gives me & her a nice chance to size up each other thru talking, while doing something social like having a meal or walking around the area (avoid malls!) so we can decide if to move forward. And believe me, quite a few times I've canceled going further, the vibe just wasn't there.

Yeah, alot more work than in our youth, but we're at the stage of life where we don't & won't put up with the nonsense from earlier days.

On the way out, she asked for taxi money. I gave her $20 USD, but begged for more. I gave her another $20, but this Cxnt had the nerve to ask for $100. GTFOH.

Bravo! That's exactly how to deal with this. It's bad enough she didn't do the work to get & keep you hard; she actually thought she deserved more for doing less. Typical. Fcuk her, get out!

Best of luck on future adventures!

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Delayed arrival, but it was still early at 5 am. The SafariCom store was open. Bought only data for $10 USD and I'm still ok because I use wifi whenever I have the chance. To this day, I haven't added anything to M-PESA or went to the ATM. I brought $200 USD with me and only recently exchanged $100 to shillings. Great exchange rate at the bank. Higher than listed online. Cards are widely accepted so that has been my go to.

I'm not a hard core monger. I've had my days. No judgement to anyone else, but I like to establish somewhat of a connection. The sex is that much more enjoyable for me.

I arrived last Friday. Got settled into my condo in Kileleshwa and took a nap. Later that night, I went to The Alchemist around 9 pm and it was extremely early for activities. I had a burger and a beer then went to the upstairs bar with some strong ass drinks. I had two old fashions and sipped slow.

I was getting bored as hell and was kinda gloom about the prospects of something happening. I had previously made an Afro account and added Tinder when I arrived, but didn't feel in the mood to really deal with that. It started filling up some downstairs around 11 pm, so I went down there. Fast forward to around midnight and a statuesque woman of 29 years arrived to the club and posted up next to me. She said it was her birthday so I bought her a drink and hung out with her. Best to get there no earlier than midnight.

We had some drinks. I had one too many. She was game to leave with me and we grabbed some food on the way out. Back to my condo and we both dozed on the couch. Woke her up. She showered and the games began. No BJ, but did go down on her. Again, I had one too many drinks and she just didn't show enough energy so junior really wasn't cooperating. I'm 51, so too much alcohol and lackluster effort from a woman equals a limp willy. I was ok at one point, but when it came time for the condom it was a no go.

The morning was better, but only because I momentarily barebacked her and when I tried to apply the condom I lost my strength. On the way out, she asked for taxi money. I gave her $20 USD, but begged for more. I gave her another $20, but this see word had the nerve to ask for $100. GTFOH. She left a bit disappointed, but still texted me later and the next day. I must have had sucker on my head.

I'm here for the month. Not going hardcore. I've had my ups and downs this week with tinder and a waitress that picked me up, but my Tinder this Friday was next level. A memory to keep forever. I'll share deets in my next post.