Nairobi

[Member #4148]

Satyr, many thanks for your advice.

Well, I HAVE read the forums here, but frankly I assumed that the posters were bragging when they said that they "spent a whole night with a sophmore student for nothing". I mean, if you look like Jeff Gyllenhaal, that may be possible, but.

Point. I should not over analyse. (A known weakness of mine.) It reminds me of East Europe 25 years ago. People were proud to know a westener. And the girls were keen to spend a night with a westerner. Because, seeing as westeners were in another class, it must show that the girl whom they fancy must be someone special. Well. If that's the game in Kenya, I'll go there armed with my youthful experiences from Krakow and Poznan!

But that is not the main point, I suppose.

I was not in Eastern Europe 25 years ago, so I cannot comment.

Am 47, good looking but not dreamy, work out regularly (so am fit) , shy but charming after the shyness is gotten past, reserved. Tend to think the worst of people and their motives and pronouncements (so not every proclamation of love carries me away). I also suffer dreadfully from a tendency to analyze things until they are dead.

Description furnished by way of context of my success and experience in Africa.

I did occasionally get the vibe that having a white boyfriend was a feather in the cap.

In Nairobi I payed no one apart from reasonable cab fare.

In Mombasa I offered 80 percent of the girls I was with 1000 shillings. They were all ST and all but one accepted. The two girls with whom I had a lifeless threesome asked for another thousand after I gave each 1000 separately on the pretext that the trip back to Diani from Mombasa was long. I didn't have the heart to argue. (When I am deflated and disappointed I tend not to argue). This was the only disappointing experience I had in 2 weeks, incidentally.

The 20 percent of girls to whom I did not offer money were the recipients of dinners and drinks and live band entertainment at Nakumatt on one occasion and karaoke at Nyali Resort on another and these girls did not seem in the least put out that I did not offer.

Now that I think of it, I suppose my few LT girls were wined and dined more thoroughly than the ST girls, as they were more scintillating all-around companions and I actually enjoyed their company both in and out of bed.

My advice with semi-pros can be boiled down to these principles: be prepared to pay or not pay, be willing and easy to pay or not pay, do not discuss paying or not paying until parting. If she doesn't ask and you feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then offer. If you don't feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then don't offer.

You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience.

[Priamos]

Satyr, many thanks for your advice.

If you have read the forums here, you will at least have noticed some posters writing about how no money exchanged hands between them and the girl (s) and how they paid for nothing apart from cab fares, food, drink, etc.

Well, I HAVE read the forums here, but frankly I assumed that the posters were bragging when they said that they "spent a whole night with a sophmore student for nothing". I mean, if you look like Jeff Gyllenhaal, that may be possible, but.

This is the beauty and the jazz of Africa to me.

Nothing is predictable, scriptable or de rigueur here.

The continent of the semi-pro.

Try to enjoy the uncertainty and not cram everything into a pre-ordained box of expectation and comportment.

Point. I should not over analyse. (A known weakness of mine.) It reminds me of East Europe 25 years ago. People were proud to know a westener. And the girls were keen to spend a night with a westerner. Because, seeing as westeners were in another class, it must show that the girl whom they fancy must be someone special. Well. If that's the game in Kenya, I'll go there armed with my youthful experiences from Krakow and Poznan! .

[Member #4148]

I'll be going to Nairobi on business in April and have (what else?) been roaming a bit on afrointroductions. Since I've never been to Kenya before this gives rise to a couple of question. First, I've been in contact with a young girl who calls herself Pili, but whose real name appears to be Jackline, who seems very keen to secure my "company" while I'm there. Does anyone have experieces with this girl to share?

Secondly, if I hook up with her (or someone else) , what are the local procedures? There's a pretence that I come to visit her as a friend / boyfriend / suitor, so how does one approach the money issue? And, how much "pocket money" would a girl expect for a few days together?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

If you have read the forums here, you will at least have noticed some posters writing about how no money exchanged hands between them and the girl (s) and how they paid for nothing apart from cab fares, food, drink, etc.

Some posters, on the other end, are almost religiously circumspect about "negotiating" upfront and making sure the girl always gets a monetary gift.

I am a veteran of six weeks in total, spent in two African countries: Ghana and Kenya. Of the between 30 and 40 girls I fucked during these six weeks, only one was found in a bar where hardcore pros ply their trade (Mecumba's in Accra). I am not fond of these places.

So I have learned a simple rule: there is no protocol, there is no "one size fits all" situation. In short, there is no rule.

Sure, if you are going to Madhouse, fee-for-service is the rule.

But when you talk about Afro or meeting a girl on the street, every girl and every encounter and every dynamic between you and her will be different.

I swear to you I have met girls who are offended by the offer of money and some who are offended when it's not offered.

This is the beauty and the jazz of Africa to me.

Nothing is predictable, scriptable or de rigueur here.

The continent of the semi-pro.

Try to enjoy the uncertainty and not cram everything into a pre-ordained box of expectation and comportment.

If your personality and taste do not allow for this sort of flexibility, I think you will enjoy Kenya much less. Or you should stick to the girls of Simmers and Madhouse while in Nairobi.

[Priamos]

I'll be going to Nairobi on business in April and have (what else?) been roaming a bit on afrointroductions. Since I've never been to Kenya before this gives rise to a couple of question. First, I've been in contact with a young girl who calls herself Pili, but whose real name appears to be Jackline, who seems very keen to secure my "company" while I'm there. Does anyone have experieces with this girl to share?

Secondly, if I hook up with her (or someone else) , what are the local procedures? There's a pretence that I come to visit her as a friend / boyfriend / suitor, so how does one approach the money issue? And, how much "pocket money" would a girl expect for a few days together?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

[Member #4148]

My sensible opinion: See a qualified Doctor. Do not take advice from an ISG Doctor. LOL

Do what Noddy said.

[AfAsia]

OK, strange question I know, but I wonder what other people have experienced.

I am very careful in Nairobi, and everywhere in Kenya, condoms always for everything. But after almost every encounter I seem to pick up a yeast infection with red and itchy scrotum and genitals. It is easily treated and not serious (that's how I know it's yeast / fungus; diflucan zaps it quickly) but it is extremely annoying and sometimes embarrassing when I transmit it to someone who doesn't know my habits. Does everyone have similar problems? Or is it just me?

My sensible opinion: See a qualified Doctor. Do not take advice from an ISG Doctor. LOL

[Nikita 1987]

Hi I will be in Nairobi on 1st Feb if any body intrested in drinking and hunting with please PM me:0

Am looking to have my first mzungu for some naughty fun, email [Email address deleted by Admin]

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[Kc Me]

OK, strange question I know, but I wonder what other people have experienced.

I am very careful in Nairobi, and everywhere in Kenya, condoms always for everything. But after almost every encounter I seem to pick up a yeast infection with red and itchy scrotum and genitals. It is easily treated and not serious (that's how I know it's yeast / fungus; diflucan zaps it quickly) but it is extremely annoying and sometimes embarrassing when I transmit it to someone who doesn't know my habits. Does everyone have similar problems? Or is it just me?

[Johnympole]

That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.

There are a couple of hostels in and around Nairobi where yu could a room. Whatever yu do there is your own business, and if you are lucky you get beautiful sexy and willing neighbors. Beauty about them is that they are not too harsh on the pocket. That and th fact that you get to interact with locals who might show you a thing or two other tourists never get to see / know.

[Member #4148]

That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.

Noddy is trying to tell you about the Terminal Hotel. 30 or 35 dollars per night. Clean, safe, central, very no-frills place. No TV even.

The Nairobi choice of many a no-frills monger.

[Noudo]

f you visit nairobi with budjet less than 100 dollar / day (hotel+handmoney) Than better not go to Nairobi.

That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

Read the Nairobi thread. You will find budget hotels are aplenty. .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.

[AfAsia]

Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all?

Read the Nairobi thread. You will find budget hotels are aplenty.

[Johnympole]

Hi Johnny,

I'm coming to Nairobi around middle of March, and was looking for a good 'wing man' to 'Big me up' to the local girls. I'm primarily interested in picking up non working girls in shopping malls (like Ya Ya Center) during the day time mainly. I'm an Australian expat currently living in Jakarta, but I'm only a 9. 5 hour non stop flight away from you on Kenya Air via Bangkok.

I already have several girls lined up from Afro Introductions, and of course, I'm looking for more. This upcoming trip is only for two weeks, but if it goes according to plan, my intention is to come back to NBO (and of course, I must check out Mombasa too) on a more permanent basis around mid June.

Regards,

David Francis.

Now this sounds like t'would have been an awesome adventure. I don't want to sound like a spoil sport but I recently landed an unexpected job out of the country and might not be around. It goes till June.

But all in all Kenyan's blacks love whites if only for a 'new' and 'different' experience and yu might not have to pay for anything other than the usual dating expenses (Wine and' Dine. And' your accommodation) if you know the right places to look; experiences of joys / adventures shared as opposed to services bought. I'm johnympole et oohay dt kom and' would be glad to give my two cents if and' when needed. A word of advice: Try and' venture out to the smaller towns Nakuru, Machakos, Embu etc (One / Two hours drive with public transport readily available) if only for a day each. You won't be dissapointed.

Johny

[Member #4166]

Kenyan born and' bred. Anyone requiring a flexible available wingman (In Nairobi. But also luv's Mombasa) please get in-touch. I enjoy sharing travel experiences (Not that I have much!)

Hi Johnny,

I'm coming to Nairobi around middle of March, and was looking for a good 'wing man' to 'Big me up' to the local girls. I'm primarily interested in picking up non working girls in shopping malls (like Ya Ya Center) during the day time mainly. I'm an Australian expat currently living in Jakarta, but I'm only a 9. 5 hour non stop flight away from you on Kenya Air via Bangkok.

I already have several girls lined up from Afro Introductions, and of course, I'm looking for more. This upcoming trip is only for two weeks, but if it goes according to plan, my intention is to come back to NBO (and of course, I must check out Mombasa too) on a more permanent basis around mid June.

Regards,

David Francis.

[Willyboy]

Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all?

If you visit nairobi with budjet less than 100 dollar / day (hotel+handmoney) Than better not go to Nairobi.