Nairobi

[CoalBurner]

I am not sure if the police is less corrupt there. I honestly doubt it. But overall there is a lot more vultures in Kenya. Never had a serious issue in Uganda.

Kenyan police are opportunists like no other, even going as far as changing into civilian clothes while on duty to commit a crime. The Ugandan police force has gone thru some changes over the last decade making it slightly worse, but it's still better than Kenya.

There's also a country parallel here when it comes to girls. Kenyan girls are more westernized and mentally quicker than their Ugandan counterparts making them more able to easily target tricks and 'capitalize' in these situations. That's not to say that Ugandans are above it, but it's far less likely to happen in Uganda.

Its ALWAYS our own fault by not properly stashing our money away. NEVER let your guard down.

Whether it's Kenya or Uganda, the bottom line is that it all starts and ends with you. How you handle yourself, your money, your booze intake, your visibility to the police, where when and how you target and pick-up girls, how you screen them, what measures you take to mitigate risk and finally how you deal with the girl and possibly the police should things blow up.

[Member #4717]

Could you please send me the apartment Airbnb link, as I need to use it in my next trip to Nairobi.

When I went there last, I got an Air Bnb in Westlands. Most places are about 10 minutes away by Uber (Brew Bistro, Westlands, K2, Liddos etc).

Was private and had all the amenities I needed. Brought girls through with no problem.

[Member #4717]

Thanks for the reply.

Happy to know that I paid fair prices.

Most girls will asm for around 8-10 k trying their luck. In Nairobi you pay more than other places in Kenya but I have always countered with 3 k and its worked. I would never go above 4 k myself, its a buyers market.

[Mombie75]

I like the westlands but as you say the sense of entitlement of those chicks is crazy. Everything in the Westlands is overpriced the food, the drinks the clothes in the malls and the women. Even the Uber prices from CBD are ridiculous. I've found it best to talk to shopgirls and shoppers in CBD, It's true you can pick up anywhere but in the CBD it seems to be the "agreed" upon spot so you don't risk offending a chick that's "off games". I personally like hanging out in westlands but you're paying western prices for everything.

I understand principles but I probably would've given her the 3 k. Personally I don't say anything about ST or LT if she says it she's superhardcore, In my experience chicks leave when you tell them to.

The uber prices from cbd to Westlands for me always come up for 200/- a ride, this is from Hilton to diamond. I know one Nairobi girl wno hangs out in wWstlands, 5 ft, 40 dd, a real pocket rocket, she recently asked for 50 k for a full night. I laughed and told her 3 k, she laughed at me. She reckons she gets 50 k or near it from some mzungu Westlands goers. Entitled, it is becoming like that in the so called flash upmarket places.

As above, shops and malls, badoo, tinder, and approach the girls in the street is my way to go in Nairobi these days rather than these Westlands clubs.

[Triple Darknes]

Ya. Black Diamond. I always negotiate ST for 2 k. So if she wants to stay I can always renegotiate. And 26 years way too old. That means she's in business almost 10 years. This ***** wanted to maximise profits to score another hit. Hardcore. And beer prices crazy now. Almost 3! Euros. Better go streethunting in the day. These Westlands bitches are too spoiled. Pity there is no reports now where the semi and nonpro chic's hang out in CBD since Simmers and Florida closed.

As I previously said. Go to Kampala. 40% cheaper.

I like the westlands but as you say the sense of entitlement of those chicks is crazy. Everything in the Westlands is overpriced the food, the drinks the clothes in the malls and the women. Even the Uber prices from CBD are ridiculous. I've found it best to talk to shopgirls and shoppers in CBD, It's true you can pick up anywhere but in the CBD it seems to be the "agreed" upon spot so you don't risk offending a chick that's "off games". I personally like hanging out in westlands but you're paying western prices for everything.

I understand principles but I probably would've given her the 3 k. Personally I don't say anything about ST or LT if she says it she's superhardcore, In my experience chicks leave when you tell them to.

[Taurus71]

I agree. She might be bluffing. If not. It can get VERY expensive. As I said I always negotiate one shot.

Yet another very good piece of advice from you Ned. Was going to go for LTs only but with my level of experience it's better to just do STs, specially after reading these reports.

Thanks a bunch.

[Catire]

I now noticed that both girls / thieves had wigs?

Just saying.

Catire. Who will never take a girl home who's wearing a wig.

[Neddy69]

I had a similar experience. Agreed with girl 3000 for all night. We go back to Kahama Hotel fuck once so far all good, fall asleep. I had forgotten 6000 ksh in pocket of jeans next my side of bed. I usually hide it before sleeping. In the morning I wake up and discover money is gone. I wake the girl and tell her we have a problem. I explain to her my suspicions and of course the drama starts. She gets dressed and now even though she already took 6000 from me she also demands the 3000 we had agreed on. When she got dressed I noticed she put the money under her wig. She threatens to call police, I call reception. I tell her I know where she has the money. Suddenly she needs to go the bathroom. I know in bathroom she put the money up her vagina.

Manager of Kahama John (nice guy, as far as I can tell) arrives and I explain what has happened. He asks girl if I can search her purse she approves and I do the search thoroughly. Then I tell John I want her body searched as well. John asks for cleaning lady to search her, again she approves. While cleaning lady and girl is in toilet I ask John is cleaning lady trustworthy? He says yes. Result of search is negative. I ask cleaning lady have you checked also inside vagina? No she says I cannot do that. Girl says let's go to police station and you will see what happens. Ok I say let's go! We ride in one car to police station with John. John greets someone inside station and tells me to call when all is finished so he can send taxi to come and pick me up. On the way to station I do not take my eyes of girl so she has no chance to hide money somewhere else. In station there is some waiting then the interrogation starts with me and girl at same time. I tell them my suspicions and then they listen to what the girl has to say. From the moment it all starts I quickly realize they are corrupt as fuck, I had read about it before here on the forum and in newspapers but I did not understand the scale of it!

First they held interrogation with girl in separate room and then it was my turn. They tell me it is very serious to accuse someone of a crime and try to scare me the best they can, they use phrases like "you are playing with the devil" "you will probably spend the night in a cell" it is very clear they want a bribe. I stand my grounds and tell them If a crime happens I of course have the right to report it even if I do not have any evidence. One of the officers is a female and is the absolutely most disgusting person I ever met. I tell you it was hard to keep cool then that * opened her mouth. They realize this is not going to be as easy as they fought. So now they change tactics. They tell me to go outside and wait. Male officer leaves room and female offices goes away for a minute and then comes back with gloves to bodysearch girl. Girl goes in and after a while she comes out again, female offices tells me to come and explains too me nothing was found, how unexpected, right? She tells me to pay girl the 3000 we had agreed on, no way I tell her, she will not get anything more from me. After a lot of arguing female officer realizes I will not pay girl and tell me too wait outside. After sometime male offices tells me I can leave with girl and that I should pay her. We argue some more and eventually even he gets tired of it. He tells me there must be something wrong with me because of all this arguing and the fact that I will stand my grounds no matter what. He actually looks chocked, he is probably used to getting the quick bribe.

So the result from the investigation is that girl looses 6000 ksh which male and female officers split between themselves. Now girl is even more desperate for that 3000 ksh and she wants it like if her life depended on it. He will not leave my side and I tell her I will call taxi to go back to hotel, "then I also come" she says. I realize this * is going to be like a leech until she gets that 3000 ksh. I think why not let her work a little for the money? So I tell her lets walk to hotel then. It is quite far so we argue some more and while walking she ask me if I am satisfied now that she has been humiliated, I tell her no but It is a good compensation for the money I have lost. Back at hotel I ask John how are we going to settle this? He tell me pay the girl or go back to back to police station, at station you will then have to wait until trial starts and that could probably take long time. I then walk to safety deposit box, gather 3000 ksh and give to girl with the comment "I hope you will spend these hard earned pennies wisely, see you at Black Diamond tomorrow?" Girl curses at me as she leaves the hotel.

So what have we learned from this? Do the preparations carefully too minimize the risk that situation like this will appear. Also I have too agree with Neddys advice, better to go Kampala if you do not have good connection in Nairobi that will watch your back if something like this happens. If John did not have his connection maybe it would have ended differently? I did visit Black Diamond 2 more nights and took other girls but my conclusion is that it is almost 99% hardcore ones. I have been with many girls in Kampala even the really hardcore ones and nobody has taken anything from me even if there where a chance, they are much more "down to earth", and the wallet does not complain either. And I know that the corruption within the Ugandan police is not as severe as in Kenya. Compared with most African nations Kenya is well developed but the police is a disgrace and the locals also agree on this. There will be many new charter lines leaving for Mombasa next year and I will with excitement follow how Mombasa and the coastal region will evolve. I think Nairobi is a shithole and not only because of my experience with the ladies, mostly because of the terrible traffic and risks that you face if you walk outside at night. In Kampala I can walk almost everywhere at night. I do though think that Kenyan ladies are more beautiful then Ugandan and the coastal region is nice, though a little too hot and humid. If you want perfect climate go to Entebbe.

I had exactly the same situation in Gambia. ***** hid 300 Euros! in her snatch. Went to police. Of course they found "nothing" . Female security searched her. The only satisfaction I had was that the police took the money off her. Paid another 3000 dal. My most expensive shag ever.

What do we learn. Its ALWAYS our own fault by not properly stashing our money away. NEVER let your guard down. About Kampala. You have to watch your back there too. I am not sure if the police is less corrupt there. I honestly doubt it. But overall there is a lot more vultures in Kenya. Never had a serious issue in Uganda. And for that matter in Madagascar. Usually it's better to write off the money as being insistent you might screw yourself even more. As a rule of thumb give everything wearing uniform in Africa a wide berth. Stay away from the hardcores which with a little experience are easy to spot. Pay up your entrance fee to paradise.
Best tactic. Go to police. Get written report for stolen laptop or smartphone and collect insurance money.

Neddy.

Who wasn't ripped off since 2016.

[Tottem]

Go out around midnight checked brew bistro at fortis tower it was nice place but was so fully packed I could find a seat so I left have some food at havana and went to black diaomond. This place have good crowd I find a table order tusker lite for 350 bob and was watching girls I get some looks but I wasnt sure I want take girl tonight or not. Later 3 girls come and sit next to the bar they ordered a beers one was looking at me all the time I smile to her and she come to me say Hi.

She ask can she sit next to me I don't mind we have some conversation I offer her one more beer. She was 26 years old girl nice and polite. The music was playing loud and I ask her what is your tribe? Seems she don't heard me well and thought I asking what is your price? She smile and said its ok I see you nice guy you can give me anything you think I am worth in a morning. Most of the times I don't like this types of answers so I said I will give you 3000 bob if you stay with me till 8-9 am morning. She agree. I ask her tribe again and she told me she is luo.

We finish the beer jump on uber and reach hotel. We went to the room she takes her clothes quickly and said lets fuck I told her lets take shower first. She said lets fuck after we shower I was horny when I saw her naked so don't mind. She was good at bed BBBJ, ass licking, we fuck for a while after I take of condom and cum into her mouth.

I went to shower when I come back I saw her dressed up already and she told me give me money I am going. I said girl we agree you stay till 8-9 am morning and you leaving after 20 minutes. I give you 2 k and you can go not 3 k. She said no!! Its nairobi and its means nothing what I said
Silly mzungus always pays here. She makes me angry and we start arrgument its was just my principle not give for her this 1 k more. She starts act silly and shout I told her take 2 k and go or I throw you out. She take her phone and start calling somewhere and talk bullshit her mother is police and now I am finish when police come I will pay her 20000 bobs. This bullshit makes me more angry I take her shoes and wig and throw it out to hotel corridor. She get mad start to scream and call on phone again I said call whatever you want you not get this 1 k more. She start to talk with some girl on loudspeaker in shvahilli after in english and she introduce me like police officer her mum it makes me laugh and I told her. Do you know your daughter is proper silly bi.tch you should very proud of her? She was talking something more but I don't bother to listen this bullshit with police. I take her hand and push her out also to hotel carridor she start cream and shout outside. I walk to carridor locked my room doors and told her lets go to reception but she didint move so I left her at carridor.

I go to reception and call nightwatch and ask him to take this girl out. He come with me this girls was still standing next my room door with a wig in her hands and shoes. They start talking something in svahilli and we all go down to reception. I explain situation at reception and told I not give her this 1 k more better I put it into the bin because I know I am right and what I am agree with her. I left 2 k on reception desk and told to the girl you can take it and go or get nothing its up to you and I left back to my room.

I had a similar experience. Agreed with girl 3000 for all night. We go back to Kahama Hotel fuck once so far all good, fall asleep. I had forgotten 6000 ksh in pocket of jeans next my side of bed. I usually hide it before sleeping. In the morning I wake up and discover money is gone. I wake the girl and tell her we have a problem. I explain to her my suspicions and of course the drama starts. She gets dressed and now even though she already took 6000 from me she also demands the 3000 we had agreed on. When she got dressed I noticed she put the money under her wig. She threatens to call police, I call reception. I tell her I know where she has the money. Suddenly she needs to go the bathroom. I know in bathroom she put the money up her vagina.

Manager of Kahama John (nice guy, as far as I can tell) arrives and I explain what has happened. He asks girl if I can search her purse she approves and I do the search thoroughly. Then I tell John I want her body searched as well. John asks for cleaning lady to search her, again she approves. While cleaning lady and girl is in toilet I ask John is cleaning lady trustworthy? He says yes. Result of search is negative. I ask cleaning lady have you checked also inside vagina? No she says I cannot do that. Girl says let's go to police station and you will see what happens. Ok I say let's go! We ride in one car to police station with John. John greets someone inside station and tells me to call when all is finished so he can send taxi to come and pick me up. On the way to station I do not take my eyes of girl so she has no chance to hide money somewhere else. In station there is some waiting then the interrogation starts with me and girl at same time. I tell them my suspicions and then they listen to what the girl has to say. From the moment it all starts I quickly realize they are corrupt as fuck, I had read about it before here on the forum and in newspapers but I did not understand the scale of it!

First they held interrogation with girl in separate room and then it was my turn. They tell me it is very serious to accuse someone of a crime and try to scare me the best they can, they use phrases like "you are playing with the devil" "you will probably spend the night in a cell" it is very clear they want a bribe. I stand my grounds and tell them If a crime happens I of course have the right to report it even if I do not have any evidence. One of the officers is a female and is the absolutely most disgusting person I ever met. I tell you it was hard to keep cool then that * opened her mouth. They realize this is not going to be as easy as they fought. So now they change tactics. They tell me to go outside and wait. Male officer leaves room and female offices goes away for a minute and then comes back with gloves to bodysearch girl. Girl goes in and after a while she comes out again, female offices tells me to come and explains too me nothing was found, how unexpected, right? She tells me to pay girl the 3000 we had agreed on, no way I tell her, she will not get anything more from me. After a lot of arguing female officer realizes I will not pay girl and tell me too wait outside. After sometime male offices tells me I can leave with girl and that I should pay her. We argue some more and eventually even he gets tired of it. He tells me there must be something wrong with me because of all this arguing and the fact that I will stand my grounds no matter what. He actually looks chocked, he is probably used to getting the quick bribe.

So the result from the investigation is that girl looses 6000 ksh which male and female officers split between themselves. Now girl is even more desperate for that 3000 ksh and she wants it like if her life depended on it. He will not leave my side and I tell her I will call taxi to go back to hotel, "then I also come" she says. I realize this * is going to be like a leech until she gets that 3000 ksh. I think why not let her work a little for the money? So I tell her lets walk to hotel then. It is quite far so we argue some more and while walking she ask me if I am satisfied now that she has been humiliated, I tell her no but It is a good compensation for the money I have lost. Back at hotel I ask John how are we going to settle this? He tell me pay the girl or go back to back to police station, at station you will then have to wait until trial starts and that could probably take long time. I then walk to safety deposit box, gather 3000 ksh and give to girl with the comment "I hope you will spend these hard earned pennies wisely, see you at Black Diamond tomorrow?" Girl curses at me as she leaves the hotel.

So what have we learned from this? Do the preparations carefully too minimize the risk that situation like this will appear. Also I have too agree with Neddys advice, better to go Kampala if you do not have good connection in Nairobi that will watch your back if something like this happens. If John did not have his connection maybe it would have ended differently? I did visit Black Diamond 2 more nights and took other girls but my conclusion is that it is almost 99% hardcore ones. I have been with many girls in Kampala even the really hardcore ones and nobody has taken anything from me even if there where a chance, they are much more "down to earth", and the wallet does not complain either. And I know that the corruption within the Ugandan police is not as severe as in Kenya. Compared with most African nations Kenya is well developed but the police is a disgrace and the locals also agree on this. There will be many new charter lines leaving for Mombasa next year and I will with excitement follow how Mombasa and the coastal region will evolve. I think Nairobi is a shithole and not only because of my experience with the ladies, mostly because of the terrible traffic and risks that you face if you walk outside at night. In Kampala I can walk almost everywhere at night. I do though think that Kenyan ladies are more beautiful then Ugandan and the coastal region is nice, though a little too hot and humid. If you want perfect climate go to Entebbe.

[Catire]

The moral of the story here is to (probably) never take a girl with a wig back to your room.

btw. I think you need at least a fan in many of the Nairobi hotels even though it gets cool outside at night. In many places there is no to minimal air circulation... feels hot and stuffy inside a hotel room.

[Neddy69]

Very funny guy and nice principles... Some people already pay very high price for having principles in corrupt countries like Kenya. You are very lucky, that you came out of this - if the girl really works with Police then I hope you have friends, who will visit you in jail and pay the bribe for taking you out.

I agree. She might be bluffing. If not. It can get VERY expensive. As I said I always negotiate one shot.

[Neddy69]

Ya. Black Diamond. I always negotiate ST for 2 k. So if she wants to stay I can always renegotiate. And 26 years way too old. That means she's in business almost 10 years. This ***** wanted to maximise profits to score another hit. Hardcore. And beer prices crazy now. Almost 3! Euros. Better go streethunting in the day. These Westlands bitches are too spoiled. Pity there is no reports now where the semi and nonpro chic's hang out in CBD since Simmers and Florida closed.

As I previously said. Go to Kampala. 40% cheaper.

[Beno69]

...Some people who is reading this report and maybe never been in africa probably will not understand me and think why to make some dramas for small money? But for me its most important is my principles...

Very funny guy and nice principles... Some people already pay very high price for having principles in corrupt countries like Kenya. You are very lucky, that you came out of this - if the girl really works with Police then I hope you have friends, who will visit you in jail and pay the bribe for taking you out.

[Pokeris]

Go out around midnight checked brew bistro at fortis tower it was nice place but was so fully packed I could find a seat so I left have some food at havana and went to black diaomond. This place have good crowd I find a table order tusker lite for 350 bob and was watching girls I get some looks but I wasnt sure I want take girl tonight or not. Later 3 girls come and sit next to the bar they ordered a beers one was looking at me all the time I smile to her and she come to me say Hi.

She ask can she sit next to me I don't mind we have some conversation I offer her one more beer. She was 26 years old girl nice and polite. The music was playing loud and I ask her what is your tribe? Seems she don't heard me well and thought I asking what is your price? She smile and said its ok I see you nice guy you can give me anything you think I am worth in a morning. Most of the times I don't like this types of answers so I said I will give you 3000 bob if you stay with me till 8-9 am morning. She agree. I ask her tribe again and she told me she is luo.

We finish the beer jump on uber and reach hotel. We went to the room she takes her clothes quickly and said lets fuck I told her lets take shower first. She said lets fuck after we shower I was horny when I saw her naked so don't mind. She was good at bed BBBJ, ass licking, we fuck for a while after I take of condom and cum into her mouth.

I went to shower when I come back I saw her dressed up already and she told me give me money I am going. I said girl we agree you stay till 8-9 am morning and you leaving after 20 minutes. I give you 2 k and you can go not 3 k. She said no!! Its nairobi and its means nothing what I said
Silly mzungus always pays here. She makes me angry and we start arrgument its was just my principle not give for her this 1 k more. She starts act silly and shout I told her take 2 k and go or I throw you out. She take her phone and start calling somewhere and talk bullshit her mother is police and now I am finish when police come I will pay her 20000 bobs. This bullshit makes me more angry I take her shoes and wig and throw it out to hotel corridor. She get mad start to scream and call on phone again I said call whatever you want you not get this 1 k more. She start to talk with some girl on loudspeaker in shvahilli after in english and she introduce me like police officer her mum it makes me laugh and I told her. Do you know your daughter is proper silly bi.tch you should very proud of her? She was talking something more but I don't bother to listen this bullshit with police. I take her hand and push her out also to hotel carridor she start cream and shout outside. I walk to carridor locked my room doors and told her lets go to reception but she didint move so I left her at carridor.

I go to reception and call nightwatch and ask him to take this girl out. He come with me this girls was still standing next my room door with a wig in her hands and shoes. They start talking something in svahilli and we all go down to reception. I explain situation at reception and told I not give her this 1 k more better I put it into the bin because I know I am right and what I am agree with her. I left 2 k on reception desk and told to the girl you can take it and go or get nothing its up to you and I left back to my room.

Nightwatch ask me if the room have some damage I said no and he went check with me together. I told him sorry for all this noise she make but its my principle not pay her because I am right. He said me I know we understand it already from her lies at reception. I give him that 1 k and said share with reception girl for all disturb she makes her.
After 5 minutes I get phone call from reception girl she ask me everything is ok? I said is fine and ask did the girl left? She is told me she is leaving now. I thanks her and go sleep.

Some people who is reading this report and maybe never been in africa probably will not understand me and think why to make some dramas for small money? But for me its most important is my principles if I know I am right better I throw away this money to the bin or give for hotel stuff but not for some silly hoe who makes dramas and try scare you. If you not stood for yourself they will eat you alive here. My kenyan trip is over with not very happy endind but I will enjoy my time and I will comeback here again!!

[Pokeris]

Great post. I was thinking of checking out Sabina Joy while in Nairobi. How was the overall quality of the girls? I've heard mixed reviews.

Like somebody tolds before it ranks from 2 to 8 or simillar.