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  1. #3232

    Mtwapa is the real Mad Max

    I literally spent 24 hours here after planning to spend six days.

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    *I literally had to get the hell out of this place. No wonder that the posts are infrequent and the information inconsistent. I hope my post below, which is honestly as unbiased *as I can make it, prevents anyone else from spending their money or time coming to this place.

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    I'm not sure what the attraction of this place is. It reminds me of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Its dusty, filthy, disorganized and the mongering occurs only a certain time of night. Before getting here I expected something along the lines of Pattaya. But believe it or not for the first time I can remember Thailand is better than another place. There isn't a paved street or sidewalk in this entire city. It is just filled and choking with filth and madness. *Exhaust from cars, men is passing vans screaming at you to get on board. It's not a really nice place to be.

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    A poster on this board has mentioned before this place is just not walkable. That's because of the poor condition of the streets and the overwhelming heat. Even the Prestige holiday apartments, where I stayed, is simply too far from the main road. And to get to the main road you have to walk a good 15 minutes down a long dusty road complete with heaps of trash and wandering goats. So dusty and dirty is the road that I ruined a new pair of Adidas. I'm serious. And this long dusty road gets incredibly dark at night forcing you to take a motorbike back and forth. And a word about the motorbike ride down this road-the road is so deep with sand the motorbike always loses traction and nearly falls. Thats a fact! BTW- the motorbike ride is 50 BOB. That (the sand) would completely negate me staying at this hotel a second time. Now again comparing it to Pattaya, where now I have become appreciative of the mongering setup there, we all know there's times where you have to take a motorbike. But at least the streets are paved coming and going from where you pick up your working girl.

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    And they're simply is no daytime action in this town. I walked up and down the main road for at least three quarters of a mile and each direction from the Prestige hotel road. I did this for at least 3 hours. I saw one girl the whole time that even approached me. If their were working girls around they weren't hanging out in any of the bars and they weren't making themselves obvious. Very different than Pattaya where you have bars (and doable SW on Beach Road) where you can pick up girls all day long and you have even the blowjob bars that open at 10 am Like. Even the brothels in Patpong open up at 11 am o'clock.

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    Casurina is exactly like Beer Garden in Bangkok that's near Nana. Nothing special. From what I can see most of the men that were there were clearly regulars. The girls seem to know all of them. In fact the girls either paid attention to the regulars or they were dancing by themselves in front of the big screen. They really didn't pay attention to anyone else. And although I was not expecting runway models I was bit of shock at the quality of the women. Frankly they just looked run down. I saw about 30% of the working girls come to the bar and joined guys that were waiting for them. I had never seen that before (not in such a large volume). The ladies really don't show up until 12 midnight. So you have to wait all day and all night in this dusty, malaria mosquito infested place just to have sex. Never ever have I had to wait so long. After sitting about 2 hours in this place I simply left. I didn't think it was worth the cost that I paid to get in and I didn't think the quality of the women were worth it either. Out of all of the women in there there was only two or three worthy of the 40 or so there even an approachable. It just wasn't an attractive situation. And I was frustrated, hot, angry about the wasted day and just overall disappointed. At that point I knew I was getting the hell out of town on the first train smoking as we say in America. When I left the club on the same side of the road as the club I encountered maybe 10 to 15 SW's. Some of them look young and some of them looked old. The road was so damn dark you couldn't see their faces if *you tried. Some of them were sort of sitting on carts some of them were sitting on rickety chairs some of them was sitting back in the shadows. I half-expected them to at least line up the way they do on Beach Road in Pattaya or at Nana. *And giving I didn't feel like walking into dark corners or walking around the back of oxcarts just to talk to a girl I just walk back to the hotel.

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    I did walk to the two bars mentioned on this board across the street from Casaurina. They were just much smaller versions of the same thing. Again nothing stood out that was worth even talking to. And it seemed like the regulars had a hold on the place.

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    And to make matters even worse there's absolutely nothing to do in this town during the day. And when I say nothing I mean nothing. The only Supermarket in Town, Tusky, is so small, so crowded and so hot you don't even want to be in there to socialize even if you could. The beaches are not within walking distance, there is no shopping mall, there is no Cinema, there is nothing.

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    And BTW-if you come here without taking your malaria pills at least 48 hours before you get here (and finishing the whole bottle even after you leave) you are taking a massive risk. And although I have been bitten by mosquitoes before, the bites I got were huge by comparison. So huge and itchy they were I scratched them until they opened up. Glad I had Band-Aids with me as well as Neosporin. You have been warned!

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    And unless you are a street food eater you will not find anywhere to eat except one chicken and pizza place. It's right there across the street from the supermarket. And it happens to be open 24 hours. Other than that there is no place to eat except if your hotel provides it. And given I'm very picky about what I want to eat I simply couldn't find anything to eat anywhere.

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    It all this is a place to avoid. I understand that at one time this place was a great mongering spot. But those are the days of yesteryear and not now. I'm sure there may be people on this board will disagree with me about this place, but I think for a longer that's at least used to a little organization and a little more action than only the nighttime, this place will disappoint. I promise you that. For me I hopped on the first plane out of town and headed to Germany. Headed straight to a FKK. What A Difference A short flight makes.

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    Showdown.
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  2. #3231
    Quote Originally Posted by Mombie75  [View Original Post]
    Kenyan women in Mombasa will very rarely turn down a date / sex
    Half of them are Muslim and they will turn you down or start trolling with the phone.

    The black ladies which are not in the businesses also harder. Online dating is a waste of time as the photos are years old. Mombasa ladies are not attractive. For my taste but the tall Muslim.

    I had a good time for my 3 month vacation but not intend to return. There are better place.

    Mtwapa is big disappointment now. But for years now I got my ladies elsewhere as Mtwapa is a base. But now also not a good base anymore.

    The highlight of my trip was two muslim with stunning performance. One from post a Mombasa town and the other from Lamu. Those Muslim lighter skin can sweep the floor with any black Mombasa ladies.

  3. #3230

    Kenyan women

    Quote Originally Posted by Mombie75  [View Original Post]
    Kenyan women in Mombasa will very rarely turn down a date / sex with a Mzungu (White man) as they know it is money in their pocket. The girls now use FB, Badoo etc online to hook up with Mzungus before they even travel to Kenya, it is the modern world. The scene is a bit quieter now in the cafes, the beach, the clubs due dire economic outlook in Kenya, but there are plenty enough women to keep you busy no matter where or what time of day if your willing to strike up a conversation with them.
    I agree totally. Lots of good looking girls working in Cafesserie and lots of loose women sit there or walk around City Mall. That's where lots of mazungu's hang out and there has to be reasons for that. If they are interested they'll give you their number but their working hours could mean a wait for quite a few hours.

  4. #3229
    Kenyan women in Mombasa will very rarely turn down a date / sex with a Mzungu (White man) as they know it is money in their pocket. The girls now use FB, Badoo etc online to hook up with Mzungus before they even travel to Kenya, it is the modern world. The scene is a bit quieter now in the cafes, the beach, the clubs due dire economic outlook in Kenya, but there are plenty enough women to keep you busy no matter where or what time of day if your willing to strike up a conversation with them.

  5. #3228
    Quote Originally Posted by DonOmar  [View Original Post]
    Really? Where did you pick girls, when and how?

    Disco girls are not considered by me as mongering. For me mongering is daytime girls that you can spend quality time.
    DonOmar,

    Maybe the scene moved to Internet? I am no expert here but based on my two visits to Kenya, I say it is next to impossible to not be busy juggling girls, for anyone with some cash, looks or both.

    Maybe Thailand is easier, but the females of Kenya must be among the most sexually aggressive in the world.

    Barba

  6. #3227
    Quote Originally Posted by DonOmar  [View Original Post]
    Really? Where did you pick girls, when and how?

    Disco girls are not considered by me as mongering. For me mongering is daytime girls that you can spend quality time.
    Girls from Ba, tag, face, talking to them everywhere, mostly they talking to me, from Causarina I took only 1 girl in 3 weeks for 2 nights and days. And I never had a runner.

    All girls send texts to come back to meet me. They still need money. Even if they have a job.

    Just my experience.

    Blackypop.

  7. #3226
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackypop  [View Original Post]
    Not really mate. The facts that I have experienced are very different from yours. Mtwapa is still a great place for mongering.

    Blackypop.
    Really? Where did you pick girls, when and how?

    Disco girls are not considered by me as mongering. For me mongering is daytime girls that you can spend quality time.

  8. #3225
    Quote Originally Posted by DonOmar  [View Original Post]
    Mtwapa or Mombasa are no longer a mongering destination. Reason is simple, money comes and some Kenyan become rich. The good looking girls are not interested anymore with mzungu.

    this post is not an opinion its a fact!
    Not really mate. The facts that I have experienced are very different from yours. Mtwapa is still a great place for mongering.

    Blackypop.

  9. #3224

    Bars

    Banof is closed now due to renovation but next to it ."Naiz club" is a live and kick. They also have barbecue chicken. Just opposite Casaurina.

    Next to Naiz there is the ."kwetu cafe". They have nice and cheap food and girls hang around that place all the time. try 3 pm as many of them take lunch

  10. #3223

    Mtwapa update

    Two new roads are ready now as the most important is the one that start at posta trough kendas and get around the entire town up to tuskis. The main problem was the sand that cover the road coming from the side road which was not paved. Today this issue is being address as trucks are working on it.

    The main road in Mtwapa is still a disaster as its fully occupied by big trucks anytime of the days. You feel like walking in a construction site. Very unpleasant.

    The main strength of Mtwapa is apartments. One of the best is opposite merry villa it has a green gate. You need however to bring your own furnitures. Price from 12000 to 22000 per month. its called kisache plats. another place next to it is Lora plats.

    University bus often frequent Mtwapa with local visitors from Ukunda and Nairobi.

    Mongering? It has changed. Mongers now stick to one girl for the entire time instead changing girls as they did years ago.

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    The entire area from Posta to Casurina is full of hard core malayas. You need to be brave or stupid to try them.

    The bars opposite Casaurina toward posta sometimes called cafes has the cheapest food. In town. Rice is 40 bob and half chicken is 260 bob. They beat mumtaz and el mansura restaurant hand down. some night ladies sitting there.

    As I have said Mtwapa is a good base but you need to monger at shanzu kikambala or majengo. mtwapa ladies are already used to mzungu as it become very hard now.The problem for village tour is you will. Need a car or your own motorbike otherwise you will. Walk for hours in the deadly sun.

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  11. #3222

    Showdown in Mombasa next week

    Thanks to all of those that responsed to my post. I will post the info soon.

    If anyone would like to hangout while we "hunt" I will be in Mombasa next week. PM me.

    Showdown.

  12. #3221
    Quote Originally Posted by Mombie75  [View Original Post]
    As a Brit living in Kenya the last 15 years I have seen very little changes in the women at the coast. Sure the numbers are slightly less than the heydays of 10 years back but their attitude has not changed.The unemployment levels and poverty levels have not changed. Prices have not changed a great deal either in relative terms.
    If you like black women then there is no better place to visit.
    I agree, if you consider the fact that more than 60 % of the population in Kenya are under 25 years of age.

    And there are just a few who have risen above subsistence level and have a decent job or income. Anyway I don't know any.

    Maybe they are no longer concentrated so much in Mtwapa, but all over Nyali, Bamburi, Mombasa, South-Coast, Kilifi, Malindi they are there.

  13. #3220
    As a Brit living in Kenya the last 15 years I have seen very little changes in the women at the coast. Sure the numbers are slightly less than the heydays of 10 years back but their attitude has not changed. There are certainly more cars on the road but the unemployment levels and poverty levels have not changed. Prices have not changed a great deal either in relative terms. Tembo is the big loss and Bobs / Casaurinhas / Cheers are less busy than the past as new places have opened up.

    If you like black women then there is no better place to visit.

  14. #3219
    Quote Originally Posted by DonOmar  [View Original Post]
    Mtwapa or mombasa are no longer a mongering destination. Reason is simple, money comes and some kenyan become rich. The good looking girls are not intrested anymore with mzungu.

    Even the lower class has more money and they are proud now.

    Yes some working girls are still here but mainly drug addict hard core.

    Many guys are busy in socilalizing drinking and relexing.

    Big land rovers are everyware and the glory days of mombasa as mongering destination are over.

    If you did not vlisit mombasa for the last 3 or 4 years and you look only for mongering then you can look elseware.

    many mongers i met in mtwapa told me they are not comming back.

    As economy is rapidly developed in all countries including kenya and girls prefared to sit in the house or just get local boyfriend rather then working with mzungus.

    this post is not an opinion its a fact!
    @DonOmar.

    For what its worth, I have a different opinion. Mongering is alive in Kenya and elsewhere. And if the prospects for Kenyan pussy are dwindling, money / development is not the cause of it. Thailand has been more developed and richer than Kenya for years, but still there is pussy for mongers over there.

  15. #3218

    The new face of mtwapa

    Mtwapa or Mombasa are no longer a mongering destination. Reason is simple, money comes and some Kenyan become rich. The good looking girls are not interested anymore with mzungu.

    Even the lower class has more money and they are proud now.

    Yes some working girls are still here but mainly drug addict hard core.

    Many guys are busy in socializing drinking and relaxing.

    Big land rovers are everywhere and the glory days of Mombasa as mongering destination are over.

    If you did not visit Mombasa for the last 3 or 4 years and you look only for mongering then you can look elsewhere.

    many mongers I met in mtwapa told me they are not coming back.

    As economy is rapidly developed in all countries including Kenya and girls preferred to sit in the house or just get local boyfriend rather then working with mzungus.

    this post is not an opinion its a fact!

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