Mombasa

[Pete Benetar]

I second these sentiments and statements, except that I generally prefer cafe-au-lait. That having been said, my current fave is a shoepolish black Ugandan girl, which goes to show how principled I am in this regard.

My shoe-p-o-l-i-s-h, lol, Ugandan (Tutsi, actually, family fled Rwanda to Kampala) I lived with a few years here stateside. Green card holder. She came home from an afternoon date I'd arranged for her with $5, 000 USD cash. LMAO, I knew she'd turned into a full fledged pro that day.

[LustyHombre]

I second these sentiments and statements, except that I generally prefer cafe-au-lait. That having been said, my current fave is a shoe Polish black Ugandan girl, which goes to show how principled I am in this regard.

The Spelling Nazi is at it again : I intended to say "shoepolish black" and what got published?" shoe Polish " like in "glove Russian"?

[LustyHombre]

Your argument is based on the assumption that there would be an objective rating system, which there isn't. You might rate a girl 8/10 and I might only give her 2/10. So, it's basically pointless. Also, dissatisfaction can only materialise if you negotiate beforehand, which I never do. To pick up on the somewhat lame car analogy: I can read road test of 100 people and never be the wiser all the same, so I would never decide on what a car is worth to me before actually driving it. The same way with girls: she gets what she deserves, which is based on my perception of her beauty, performance, attitude and last but not least quality of companionship. Which is all down to individual perception. There are so many different factors that may make a woman an instant turn on for one man and a complete turn off for another man. There is absolutely no objectivity in this, hence you can never determine a fair price.

Everyone has different criteria and those filter criteria limit what is available to you: Mine are fairly simple: I sleep only with black women with almost no exceptions. I find white women, no matter where they come from sexually not attractive. In terms of body shape and facial features again I'm more attracted to Nilotic tribes than the prevailing Bantu tribes. I like slim girls (50-52kg) , size 6-8, never more than B / C cups. Furthermore they need to have taste in terms of fashion, be pleasant in conversation and behaviour, know how to cook and be absolutely engaged and passionate in the bedroom. This leaves maybe 1 in 1000 and obviously this come with a price tag. I don't see why I would waste my time with anything but the very best (in my perception) as long as I can afford it.

I rest my case, as this discussion doesn't lead anywhere. The majority can continue to do as they please, I have never chosen to be mainstream, in absolutely no aspect of my life.

I second these sentiments and statements, except that I generally prefer cafe-au-lait. That having been said, my current fave is a shoe Polish black Ugandan girl, which goes to show how principled I am in this regard.

[LustyHombre]

First, most of these young girls are not much younger than I am. So to me they are rather girls not young girls, old man.

Second, I do not feel shame as I have done nothing illegal. You can find me immoral according to your principles, but that's just your personal opinion about me.

Third, allmost the whole of Kenya is coming to a socially disadvantaged background compared to me. Does this implies that if tomorrow a Mombassa salesman who tries to puts a sales-pitch on me to sell me a car and fails, and I counter-react the negotiations and buy it at a much much lower price which leaves him only a very small margin, that I also need to shame myself and feel sorry to him? Why should I, it is in the end HE not me that decided to sell me the car at the negotiated price, it's not like I forced him. Neither I forced the girls.

But because we are talking about sex, and coming as rich men towards poor africa, once again we like to deceive ourselves. We should feel sorry for them, as they are so sweet sir.

WW, admittedly, your English is much better than WB's but you seem to lack clarity of thought equally :

While you may not have done anything illegal, you cheated several WG's out of their just rewards. Come on, you and everybody else knows why these girls offer themselves to us, but you tricked them into pretending that they are civilians, possibly by suggesting to them that you might be looking for a BF / GF relationship.

I find that morally reprehensible. Case closed!

[KenyanBoy]

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[Wenzman]

For me it looks like. Here are two varieties of opinions. The one had to justify a bad some and try it with moral arguments. And the other. Like me I just *uck around for the best price with the most beautiful girl I get.

I confess. I'm a *ardcore *extourist. Please help me out. Or better not.

Thanks for the attention.

Wenzman

In 5 weeks on the way to Pattaya / Thailand 500 Bath shorttime and 1000 Bath longtime.

[Tonkazan]

atwiilyboy, you know Kenya too much what you doing in sabasaba? Msufi mkavu? Some of Kenyan boys fear those girls!

Am Kenyan, and I can't touch a sabasaba girl!

[Bareback Jack]

I would argue that you let your spending habit be dictated by market theories almost all the time outside the sex-industry.

You like to engage in pure speculation. You can only argue this hypothesis if you have factual evidence. Simple logical reasoning. Fact is, you don't know anything about me but the self confessed fact that I don't care about market prices for girls

[Bareback Jack]

Next, you think there is no right or wrong. But to me, that statement is very false. The reason why you think so, is because there are no customer satisfaction ratings that you can evaluate before you make your decision to buy sexual services from a specific girl. If you could see beforehand that 80% of customers have evaluated your "top-notch" girl below or equal to 5/10, and next you see a leftover were 80% of the customers gave a score higher or equal to 8/10. Which girl you are going to chose?

Your argument is based on the assumption that there would be an objective rating system, which there isn't. You might rate a girl 8/10 and I might only give her 2/10. So, it's basically pointless. Also, dissatisfaction can only materialise if you negotiate beforehand, which I never do. To pick up on the somewhat lame car analogy: I can read road test of 100 people and never be the wiser all the same, so I would never decide on what a car is worth to me before actually driving it. The same way with girls: she gets what she deserves, which is based on my perception of her beauty, performance, attitude and last but not least quality of companionship. Which is all down to individual perception. There are so many different factors that may make a woman an instant turn on for one man and a complete turn off for another man. There is absolutely no objectivity in this, hence you can never determine a fair price.

Everyone has different criteria and those filter criteria limit what is available to you: Mine are fairly simple: I sleep only with black women with almost no exceptions. I find white women, no matter where they come from sexually not attractive. In terms of body shape and facial features again I'm more attracted to Nilotic tribes than the prevailing Bantu tribes. I like slim girls (50-52kg) , size 6-8, never more than B / C cups. Furthermore they need to have taste in terms of fashion, be pleasant in conversation and behaviour, know how to cook and be absolutely engaged and passionate in the bedroom. This leaves maybe 1 in 1000 and obviously this come with a price tag. I don't see why I would waste my time with anything but the very best (in my perception) as long as I can afford it.

I rest my case, as this discussion doesn't lead anywhere. The majority can continue to do as they please, I have never chosen to be mainstream, in absolutely no aspect of my life.

[Woef Woef]

I don't have any moral issues with that, quite to the contrary. This is a mongering forum and if I had moral issues I won't be here. I just refuse to let my spending habit to be dictated by market theories or self important individuals. Right now, I will make this even a sport and take it to new heights. In the end if you don't like that. Tough! Nothing much you can do about that.

It would not surprise me that a lot of visitors / posters are here just because they have moral issues with what they do. As it's always nice to see that you are not the only one.

I would argue that you let your spending habit be dictated by market theories almost all the time outside the sex-industry.

Self-important individuals? Hmmm. I can see your point. Before only Willyboy expressed these points and he could not speak English well so it might have been easy to tackle him. I just like to share my perhaps different views and arguments than mainstream here, that's all.

[Woef Woef]

I take it, from the way how you express yourself, that you are a well educated person. Does it not offend your sense of fairplay to engage in a battle of wits with young girls who are most likely from a socially disadvantaged background and have never been taught how to reason logically. Shame on you!

First, most of these young girls are not much younger than I am. So to me they are rather girls not young girls, old man.

Second, I do not feel shame as I have done nothing illegal. You can find me immoral according to your principles, but that's just your personal opinion about me.

Third, allmost the whole of Kenya is coming to a socially disadvantaged background compared to me. Does this implies that if tomorrow a Mombassa salesman who tries to puts a sales-pitch on me to sell me a car and fails, and I counter-react the negotiations and buy it at a much much lower price which leaves him only a very small margin, that I also need to shame myself and feel sorry to him? Why should I, it is in the end HE not me that decided to sell me the car at the negotiated price, it's not like I forced him. Neither I forced the girls.

But because we are talking about sex, and coming as rich men towards poor africa, once again we like to deceive ourselves. We should feel sorry for them, as they are so sweet sir.

[DylanGerman]

Really hard to decipher the message through all that gibberish. So, you don't want them to have an iPad, or you need one? Let me know I'll make a donation and leave it at Kahama, so you can easily find it

He is like that. LOL.

Though he is one of my hero's

[Woef Woef]

There is another dimension which comes into play as well, namely value or rather : perceived value.

No question that most people would be prepared to pay more for a Rolls Royce than for a Hillman Imp. But how much more? Is a multiple of 60 adequate? And maybe it is to me but not to you. Thanks God, it's a free world and everybody has to pay with their own money and be able to justify it, either internally or to the wife!

Same with girls : am I content with the leftovers at a night club at the end of the night and maybe even try to bargain her down a bit further? Or do I chose from the prime time offerings and pay close to the asking price?

I don't think there is a Right or Wrong here. Everybody decides for him or herself and I hope will be happy with their choice.

If you pity the guy who has never experienced the pleasure of driving a RR, remember only " what I don't know I won't miss ".

Perceived value. Which will be mapped by any customer afterwards towards his expectations of the service, and if the latter are higher than the perceived value he will be dissatisfied.

So do you agree that if tomorrow more people start to throw money at a specific car based upon perceived value and expectations that the manufacturer will decide to produce more cars of that type? If so, you should also agree that if mongerers pay higher prices for prostitutes that this will lead to more prostitution.

Next, you think there is no right or wrong. But to me, that statement is very false. The reason why you think so, is because there are no customer satisfaction ratings that you can evaluate before you make your decision to buy sexual services from a specific girl. If you could see beforehand that 80% of customers have evaluated your "top-notch" girl below or equal to 5/10, and next you see a leftover were 80% of the customers gave a score higher or equal to 8/10. Which girl you are going to chose?

That would lead to a much more free market system regarding prostitution than it is now. Now you just pay the price that the girl is setting, and when you can negotiate a bit lower you have the feeling that you are in control. Let me tell you the guys at the end of the evening with the mass of leftovers, are much more in control than you do.

I stick with my point that Willyboy explained it correctly before. The vast majority of customers live in the illusion that they are in control and setting in prices. And that in fact the girls are in control and deceiving the customers. However I would like to add on top that it's especially the clients deceiving themselves. For any other service or goods they would never spend their money in the same way, it would be foolish and lead to personal bankruptcy sooner than later if this becomes regular behavior. But because it's about sex, clients like to deceive themselves with all sorts of excuses.

I conclude that in order to monger you don't need to be good at it to enjoy it.

[Bareback Jack]

Really hard to decipher the message through all that gibberish. So, you don't want them to have an iPad, or you need one? Let me know I'll make a donation and leave it at Kahama, so you can easily find it

My apologies to Williboy. It was meant in a lighthearted way!

[Willyboy]

Really hard to decipher the message through all that gibberish. So, you don't want them to have an iPad, or you need one? Let me know I'll make a donation and leave it at Kahama, so you can easily find it

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