2002-2006 General Reports

[Member #3400]

Excellent report, I am sure u can re-edit the Nairobi section in wikipedia.
The university is very good advice. But I didn't find the streets and stores in central Nairobi so pleasant to spend time. Any other areas for shops/malls?


Most of the universities have local bar or even a disco. I will try to find more detail on Nairobi University and let u know guys. Dancing surrounded by eager students should be a dream....

Max

[LynnMan]

Forest,

Take it from me, being a foreigner in Kenya especially caucasian, and you speak english; already puts you in an extremely favourable status. Regarding a taxi and driver situation it will be good to get referal from here, to reliable means of transportation. This will help because in Kenya once you are in good terms with the girl, you can send the driver to go get her, while you concentrate on your business, or even skip out on her to get some action on the side.

From personal experience I have forund Kenyans in general to be intuitive, and willing to please. They also love having fun. Just remember you are probably the only forigner/white male ever in their life! its essential that you have a mobile phone, and once you get a local number, make sure you get the number of the girls you meet at the stores etc. Another good pick up area is the University of Nairobi. Just walk in the residence hall areas, and you can have your pick of various co-eds, who will bring to the table lively discussions and are ALL available for bedrook action later.

Remember even though most girls don't want to be labled '****' or 'easy-going' if they have agreed to a cup of coffee with you, or lunch, you are halfway there. Do not discuss sex with them out-right, but suggest you want them to come see your apartment/hotel etc. Kenyan women are almost always available after 5pm, since that is when stores close. Assure them you have a driver and that getting them home will not be a problem. You will be amazed at how quickly they will want to come and clean up your place, do you laundry, cook etc. Do not mention 'girlfriend' or 'marriage' or 'relationship'. Just follow your flow, and always have interesting stories, or jokes to share.

The average woman in her 20's in Nairobi has definitely seen foreigners, and in favourable light. Thanks to UN missions, and other NGO corporations which base their east and central Africa operations in Nairobi. To the women you are a good guy, and an exciting person to meet. If you ran out of things to say, ask her opinion regarding the local politics, or women in politics etc. Remember, even if you don't get her on the first date, you will have success on second date etc. A good plot too, is to go to a boutique and pretend you are shopping for a gift for your mother/auntie etc back in your country.

Another source of connections is afrointroductions dot com, for $25 membership you can have access to many Kenyan girls, and after the first e-mail, always get the phone number. Enjoy your visit, if you need recommendations for apartments/ short time hotel etc, I'm sure members here can refer you to some of them. Also you can PM and hook up with members here who reside in Nairobi.

Lynnman

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[Vittu]

Blastoff makes an interesting and very important point. Whether you are in Thailand or in Kenya, the fastest way to bed a woman is by making her laugh.
Any silly thing will do. A friend of mine, who is an amateur magician and ventriloquist, had a phenomenal success rate. Once in Pattaya, I began reading bargirls' palms. I made the whole thing up but they took it seriously and suddenly everyone wanted to have her fortune told. Needless to say I predicted lots of handsum men with wads of dollars to spend.
Forget about any serious conversations in places like Kenya, Thailand or the Philippines. Make them feel good and they will make you feel good. The level of conversation is particularly elementary in Kenya and Tanzania.

[Blastoff]

IMHO hinting regular girls in Nairobi is similar to hunting them in your own country with one main difference,” YOUR SUCCESS RATE IS 1,000 TIMES HIGHER IN KENYA THAN MOST COUNTRIES."

I had the pleasure of fucking a VERY wealthy married woman whose husband owns several medium sized businesses in town. She is absolutely gorges and the last thing she needs is my money as she may have more than me lol. I am a joker and kidder by nature and I have found that the trick with regular girls in any country to be interested in you is to get them laughing and giggling and you jokes and stories and usually you will have a level of success with them.

In Kenya you just have to be from an other country to impress girls. This to them means that you have the money to travel which is more money than they ever dreamed of. No different in materialistic mentality of any girl in the U.S.A. or Europe for that matter. In those countries if you have an expensive house and drive an expensive car this has the same effect, just in Kenya the girls are impressed with a $5 meal of chicken as opposed to a $200 meal in Europe.

It takes a few days to get the feel for things if you haven't been there before then it's smooth sailing all the way.

Regarding Max's comment on Uganda and how hard it is to get girls, I personally have not been there yet but it is on my list but several friends of mine have gone there and came back to tell me that the girls were easy to pick up. Experiences are different from one man to an other and you need to be flexible in your game from county and culture and find what buttons you need to push with the local girls to win.

Good luck.

[Member #3400]

I was an expert for pickup a girl in daytime in every imaginable place.
In Mombasa area and the entire cost my chances was 99% for 10 years statistic period. I had one reject in the village of Wattamu. (Near Malindi)

Nairobi it’s a different story for the middle class girls my chances was about 85%. Most of the girls were travel agent, hotel staff etc. The other 20% didn't want sex at the first date, so for me it was consider as failure.(its includes Somali girls). Good place are the restaurants and the electical/mobile shops in central town. (Somali are cant be anticipated although they eager.)

For the higher socio economic class my chances were drops to about 50%. This includes girls driving with it own cars at westlands or just classy girls with fashionable cloth. (near the mall/supermarket at westlands)

The strategy was simple just asked her if she like me to join me to a dinner/coffee. My main expertise is to hunt girls in the street while they walking

Now let me tell u the Kenya is one of the best places for non-pro in Africa. In Uganda for example I am too embarrassed to show my statistical figures. I will be kicking out from this forum. But sometimes you need only one girl for a few days and the rejection are part of our life when we are dealing with girls anywhere on this planet.

If Blastoff will Eventually open his language school in Nairobi I can demonstrates some of my daytime technique, free of charge :-)

[Vittu]

Forest -- Having a woman (and a volunteer at that!) to pimp for you in search of regular women has all kinds of possibilities. Too kinky to discuss here.
Congratulations on this innovative approach. Please report to us on how it goes.
Also, no reason to be hesitant about approaching shopgirls and such. You have a leg up, so to speak, because you are in Kenya on business. That remark alone will make you a more desirable catch because it signals, rightly or wrongly, seriousness.
After you see a likely candidate in a shop, you don't have to do anything right then. Go back 10-15 minutes later. Say you really liked whatever it was that she showed, but have problems about colors (or whatever). Ask for her favorite color or a color she would recommend. Praise her for her poise and tell her she is the most intelligent girl you have met.
This shows that you are interested. If she, too, seems interested, you still don't have to do anything. You, a handsome man, can return once again and pop the question. By that time, of course, you will have been the subject of considerable talk in the shop because everyone has been kidding her about her new foreign suitor. No problem: In Kenya, everyone likes to fuck and you will be envy of every female in the shop.
If, it turns out, she is no game, ask her whether she has a friend who can take you around and show the ropes, so to speak. One thing leads to another. As an old song says, Don't worry, be happy.

[Blastoff]

Hello,

I am going to Mombasa soon, and wonder if there are short time hotels?

In the city center, I dont like to take the girl to my hotel.

Thanks,

Buttlover

Don't worry every girl you pick up will know a short time hotel for 500 KSH or less just ask.

Have fun.

[Member #4643]

Nice commentary, despite the denunciation of both my reading skills and my manlihood. However, since I am seeking free advice (and I believe I got good advice here), I accept these criticisms without complaint.

I agree that the previous forum postings do suggest an ease in obtaining regular women that greatly exceeds other parts of the world. But, men being men, much of what is written is not necessarily believable (its shocking I know, but some guys actually lie about their achievements with the opposite sex, even when they are posting anonymously in a forum such as this). Thus, I sought out some fresh viewpoints on the subject.

Your take on getting a driver is extremely interesting, and I suspect it is outstanding advice. I do remember one thread about someone going into the poorest sections of Nairobi and picking up ladies with the help of a "guide", but frankly this sort of adventurism is far beyond my capability (I can be a man as you suggest, but I think this experience would be a little too thrilling for my aging and tender coronaries).

My rather naïve plans were to focus on the toniest shopping districts in Nairobi and approach female shop keepers in upscale clothing stores. I have noticed that world wide, girls who work in such stores are often great looking. Sadly, sometimes they seem a bit put off by men who are shopping with the sole intention of picking them up. Maybe I should enlist the help of a female as a cover for my mongering intentions! Before you respond negatively to this idea, keep in mind that I am cognizant that such an approach might not be manly. Asking a woman to pimp for me is a hard idea to accept. However, I received an email today from a girl I met on Adult Friend Finder who volunteered to help me pick up girls in exactly this way; I am certain she would expect compensation. But, she says she is interested in threesomes, and her photos (assuming they are real) were pretty hot. Probably another internet scam, but one that I am enticed to explore.

[Vittu]

Forest -- If you read the forum, you will find the following claims substantiated:
(1) In Kenya, almost any woman, married or not, is game.
(2) If you see a regular girl you like, do as you would with any regular girl in any other country -- but without hesitation. Whether in a shop, asking for directions (a good excuse always) or whatever, ask her for a cup of coffee, for a drink, or invite her for lunch or dinner. Take it from there. You may be turned down occasionally, but that is not likely as long as you project yourself as a nice and trustworthy character.
(3) It is customary that with a regular, just as with a semi-pro or pro, some monetary token of appreciation changes hands. This is expected and is no reflection on the lady's morals or virtue. But a regular girl may be deeply offended, if you start asking about the price.
(4) Learn the Kenyan lingo. At some point during your conversation, you might ask the object of your desire questions that could be understood many ways. Like: "Do you like to move?" (Kenyan for do you want to fuck). Or, "Do you smoke?" (Kenyan for doing oral). That latter question in particular can generate a long conversation if you know how to converse.
(5) If you need a cab driver as a go-between to talk to African women, you are not a monger but an inept slouch who should stay where such paid intermediaries are needed.
Let me repeat this: Trying to use a go-between is about the worst idea you can think of. The regular woman you are trying hit on is not going to be interested in a Kenyan taxi driver or some unwashed tout; she is interested in you, a foreigner, if she is interested at all.
A particular reason to avoid go-betweens is that many Kenyan men have a bad reputation (some are known to beat women). So you don't want to send a guy you know nothing about to conduct a delicate approach. Do yourself a favor and be a man. Gather your courage (with whatever it takes) and deal with the object of your desire directly.
Happily, in Kenya, such initiative is usually rewarded.

[Member #4643]

First off, I want to say how much I appreciate the recent postings by Blastoff (whose reports are a fantastic source of infomration, and who has been extremely kind in PMing with me as well), GioRandy, Skay33, Etremof and several others. If you look at the Africa board, you will see that until recently there was very little posted. One can now plan a decent trip to Africa thanks to you guys.

I am on my way to Kenya in a few months because (and only because) I want to hook up with non-pros and regular girls. I intend to completely avoid full-time h**kers. It is a business trip that I could have otherwise avoided, but Kenya sounds like too much fun. I will only be in Nairobi.

I was wondering if those of you with experience in Africa could give me your thoughts on this. I have never mongered in Africa before, but I have noticed that in Brazil and the DR, non-pros/regular girls are not hard to meet, but its not a given that all of the girls will have sex with me. The strategy that sometimes works best for me in Latin America is to enlist the help of a cab driver to make the initial introduction (finding the right driver usually takes a few days). The driver can be useful in those situations where asking a girl directly in public to go out may be difficult because of cultural differences or language (although my Spanish and Portuguese are excellent). For example, while my DR cab driver can quietly and discretely ask a girl for her phone number for the gringo sitting next to him, whenever I try to do this it attracts more attention than the chica may feel comforatble with.

Of course, getting the girl to go out is no guarantee of sex, although my first date success rate is about 50% and I score with another 25% on the second. The other girls are probably not to be had, but I wouldn't know because I lose interest. My impression is that sex is not possible with the last category of regular girls unless a long term relationship/marriage is promised and I never make this promise beforehand. Non-pros, defined as a girl who needs extra cash maybe once or twice a month or less, are obviously a lot easier to get into bed although they may leave you hanging on the first date. Another truism in Latin America- the wealthier cities are a lot harder for finding regular girls and non-pros. I have picked up lots of free women in Belem, and very few in Sao Paulo.

I was wondering if you guys could give me your thoughts on the best way to go about bedding regular girls in Africa, where I am hoping my percentage score rate improves dramatically. I like non-pros too, although in most countries I have visited, they hang out with the pros . Any suggestions on where to find the part-time h**ker would be appreciated too.

I am especially interested in the views of the men who have been to Latin America, since that is my best frame of reference, but an honest assessment of the situation in Africa by anyone would be welcome. THANKS Forest

[ButtLover]

Hello,

I am going to Mombasa soon, and wonder if there are short time hotels?

In the city center, I dont like to take the girl to my hotel.

Thanks,

Buttlover

[Skay33]

Guys I'm back in Mombasa soon and glad to keep you informed about my 'work' down there.

And - please let me know when you have valuable information to make my stay there more convenient or more amusing :)

Regards

[Skay33]

I found the following article in the Mombasa based 'Coastweek'. They aim to attract the above-average paying customer and they try to rise prices by introducing more quality at the coast.

Check the marks //// for interesting stages in the text. Note: It seems they have the same business consultants than we have - lol !

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WINTER SEASON IS ANOTHER WINNER !

industry is very worried about crucial
issues - power cuts and dilapidated roads

Coastweek - - While, as already predicted, the on coming Winter Season is looking very good - but the industry at the coast is very worried about crucial issues such as power cuts and dilapidated roads, reports NETA PEAL.

Said the Chairman of the Kenya Association of Hotelkeepers and Caterers, Coast, Mohammed Hersi 'too frequent power cuts need to be addressed, particularly on the north coast. They are damaging equipment and seriously interrupting conferencing.

If this destination is to move forward and prosper it is important that something is done for the 'High' season will soon be with us. With the rains coming our roads need urgent attention by the Mombasa City Council'.

As far as the 'Summer' season was concerned he said 'it was better than last year with //// a growth of around 10-15 //// per cent.

The late 'Winter' season is looking very good with two or three more charter air lines coming into Mombasa which is a very positive sign.

Apart from Christmas and the New Year there will be //// sufficient accommodation at the coast ////.

There is no problem'.

Asked for his comments, the Chairman of the Mombasa and Coast Tourist Association, Coun. Kuldip Sondhi, said:

'There is usually insufficient accommodation over peak periods like Christmas and the New Year.

'However, most hotels during the 'Winter' season will be running at around 80 per cent occupancy and 60 per cent ear round'.

With the growth in tourism is there a need for more beds I asked ?

Said Coun. Sondhi 'it is my suggestion that if hoteliers have spare money and good occupancies they should use it in improving the 'quality of their product //// to attract the more affluent guests so they can get more money and then charge higher rates' //// .

Adding 'tour operators will not give you higher rates for the same product.

However, if you feel things are good at the moment and that the competition is not so strong, that is very short sighted.

The competition knows exactly what we are doing and are out in the market spending large sums of money -much more than what we are doing - in increasing business to destinations they are promoting.

It is true we are going out seeking other markets.

The Kenya Tourist Board has recently been concentrating on Road Shows in the Czech Republic, Poland and Russia with more taking place in Australia, China, USA, Canada and France'.

Here Coun. Sondhi took the opportunity of pointing out 'that our traditional markets still amount to about 75 per cent of the product'.

Asked for his comment on an article appearing in the national press (Sept 19) that 'KTB plans to discourage growth in visitor numbers to allow the industry to catch up', Coun. Sondhi said 'I find this surprising.

Mr. Michael Opondo, KTB's Head of Marketing, appears to be equating game parks with beach hotels.

It is true that in game parks the supply does not equal demand.

It is for this reason that they are also getting high prices and they have very good properties.

Beach hotels do not have 100 per cent occupancy around the year, therefore to encourage beach hotels to increase their number of rooms is not the right way'.

This was explained more fully by Coun. Sondhi earlier in this article.

More comment came from Mohammed Hersi, Chairman, Kenya Association of Hotel-keepers and Caterers, Coast.

He said 'I agree with KTB to a certain extent. 'It is time we started thinking about 'quality' rather than 'quantity'.

The initial Recovery Plan for Kenya's tourism was to bring in the numbers no matter what.

But now we have reached a point where we must ask ourselves what quality of tourists are coming to Kenya today.

We want those who are going to spend more money in Kenya.

If it means getting a million tourists to spend 70 billion rather than two million tourists - so be it.

It will mean less pressure on our infrastructure and less pressure on our resources.'

[Willyman]

I have been following reports from Kenya keenly and with a lot of interest since i last visited that country earlier this year. Most of my mongering was done in Nairobi and i even posted some photos. But, I have to say that I had an equally nice time in Nakuru. I think Nakuru was even better than Nairobi given that not many foreigners/mongers visit that area. The girls i had were not in the least pros, the ones i had just finished their final year of high school and were out to have a good time. Mind you, they were over 18. I picked one from Merica hotel over by the pool, one from Club Dimples and one from Uchumi supermarket. So, fellow mongers, venture out beyond Nairobi and Mombasa and you will definitely have a good time. If you have mongered in other areas besides Nairobi and Mombasa, please feel free to share your experiences.

[Blastoff]

Thanks for all your excellent reports, Blastoff. I've printed them out since I'm going to Nairobi next week. I'm sure they will be helpful.

I also would like to know how Gio Randy can give a hand, but like you I feel I need som more info from him.

Right, GR? I'm sure you are OK, but please tell us a bit more.

Barri

Barri,


You will have an amazing time in Nairobi.

So far it's my favourite mongering destination in Kenya. Many other reports focus on the Mombasa area but I found Nairobi far better for my taste and variety in women and the climate is cool.

Also, all the Mombasa girls want to keep you as a boy friend even after just one fuck and that area is so small that they will know the second you take an other girl from any part of that area. Some one will see you and report back to the girl who believes she is your girl friend (even if she is not). I have seen girls fighting each other in the street while the foreigner watches on is shock and they are fighting over the man. LOL

Even my favourite girl in Matwapa ( not my GF) got into an argument with a girl at Casuarina over me because the other girl gave me here number. My girl yelled at her and then gave her a huge backhand to her mouth, which swelled up her face. Not a nice situation for me but you won't have any of this trouble in Nairobi. I have taken friends and relatives one after the other in front of each other out of clubs without even one argument.

Good luck and post a great report.

Cheers