2002-2006 General Reports

[Gualtier Malde]

Hi Santa.

I saw that report on the TV last night, and I must say that it does worry me.
I accept the possible biological explanation behind it, but as the story points out, there are many other important sociological factors.

My biggest worry is that circumcised men as the story suggests, will take this as carte blanche to have sex without a condom, or at the very least decide that they are only at half the risk of circumcised men.

Pete

I hope that this at least convinces some who would already be prone to unsafe sex to at least get circumsized.

I suspect those who are already practicing safe sex will continue to do so. This report doesn't say you *won't* get HIV, it just says the odds are reduced. 50% reduction still meant a lot of guys got HIV in their controlled studies. I am hoping that those of us who decided long ago that condoms were smart will continue to maintain that belief, and won't go shedding such an obvious defense.

It does appear that this news (first reported a year ago) resulted in a LOT of African men getting circumsized. That's good news. I don't think it has increased condom use though, so that's not good. But on the other hand, there have not been reports of DECREASED condom use at this time, so maybe that is good news.

GM

[Petemcc]

I respect that,But I got circumsized as an Infant and I have ALWAYS used Condoms with working girls and Freebies whose Sexual History is not Clear.I guess thats Why I have been Lucky so far.Wonder what the Aids rate is like with Jewish Guys compared to other groups.

I wonder? Just read something somewhere, maybe on another forum that Israeli girls are worse than American girls, so maybe Jewish guys monger more, then again, maybe their religeon stops them! There are huge sociological influences here. As for lucky, as I say to my missus about me shagging BGs, if electrons can't get through a condom, the HIV virus can't!

[Cebu Local]

True, but I am attached to my foreskin, in more ways than one. I believe that American women are fascinated by them, not that I plan to show mine to any American women, I'll stick to Asian, and my darling Scottish wife.

I respect that,But I got circumsized as an Infant and I have ALWAYS used Condoms with working girls and Freebies whose Sexual History is not Clear.I guess thats Why I have been Lucky so far.Wonder what the Aids rate is like with Jewish Guys compared to other groups.

[Petemcc]

There is always the option of being Circumsized AND using Condoms.That way you should be really safe

True, but I am attached to my foreskin, in more ways than one. I believe that American women are fascinated by them, not that I plan to show mine to any American women, I'll stick to Asian, and my darling Scottish wife.

[Cebu Local]

Hi Santa.

I saw that report on the TV last night, and I must say that it does worry me.
I accept the possible biological explanation behind it, but as the story points out, there are many other important sociological factors.

My biggest worry is that circumcised men as the story suggests, will take this as carte blanche to have sex without a condom, or at the very least decide that they are only at half the risk of circumcised men.

I really believe that this finding will come back to haunt mankind because I have no doubt whatsoever that the stupid and /or reckless will have bare back sex with WGs. I think one thing that wasn't mentioned, and again, I could be wrong, that the studies were probably carried out in a population where the participants had a relatively low number of sex partners. Sex with a WG is, as they say like having sex with everyone she has ever had sex with, and let's face it, the good ones are probably into 4 figures.

Look, if this is indeed a true result, and I have little doubt for the study group that it is, it is good news for the people of Africa, and good news for the other third world countries where ignorance or lack of money, or religeon, or whatever reason leads to unprotected sex. That aside, the fact remains that the only way to stop the HIV epidemic is to stop its spread, and thus far, apart from total abstinence, condom use is the most effective method.

I am sure that most guys here will continue to do the right thing.

Pete

There is always the option of being Circumsized AND using Condoms.That way you should be really safe

[Petemcc]

A lead story in the NYTimes claimes that circumcized men are less likely to catch or spread viral infections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/he...th&oref=slogin

Hi Santa.

I saw that report on the TV last night, and I must say that it does worry me.
I accept the possible biological explanation behind it, but as the story points out, there are many other important sociological factors.

My biggest worry is that circumcised men as the story suggests, will take this as carte blanche to have sex without a condom, or at the very least decide that they are only at half the risk of circumcised men.

I really believe that this finding will come back to haunt mankind because I have no doubt whatsoever that the stupid and /or reckless will have bare back sex with WGs. I think one thing that wasn't mentioned, and again, I could be wrong, that the studies were probably carried out in a population where the participants had a relatively low number of sex partners. Sex with a WG is, as they say like having sex with everyone she has ever had sex with, and let's face it, the good ones are probably into 4 figures.

Look, if this is indeed a true result, and I have little doubt for the study group that it is, it is good news for the people of Africa, and good news for the other third world countries where ignorance or lack of money, or religeon, or whatever reason leads to unprotected sex. That aside, the fact remains that the only way to stop the HIV epidemic is to stop its spread, and thus far, apart from total abstinence, condom use is the most effective method.

I am sure that most guys here will continue to do the right thing.

Pete

[Santa]

A lead story in the NYTimes claimes that circumcized men are less likely to catch or spread viral infections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/he...th&oref=slogin

[Santa]

There was a story in todays NYTimes about the Shenzhen crackdown.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/wo...ostitutes.html

[Alex Rock]

So, when refering to your HJ at 400RMB and FS at 800RMB think again about how big is your brain.

Stop berating people - it doesn't take any intelligence to do it. Try going to the Cheap Sex in China thread and try to write a decent report. I've left some writing tips for you there.

[Superforce99]

can someone here recommend a national wifi service in china. i'll be mostly in guangzhou, panyu, zh, dg and cp areas. but i might travel outside to bj or sh.

i have been checking out the china mobile and china unicom services and even did a test at a local store in tianhe with someone's computer that just had the wifi service installed but found the speed insufficient for my use.

my use is to attach a www.vonage.com v-phone to my notebook and be able use the internet to make calls back to the states.

i know this setup works in a local spr coffee shop and starbuck coffee shop in guangzhou.

i'll probably use this only for a month in china before heading back home. i'm willing to pay the big bucks so i can maintain communications with my clients back home.

anybody here can help me on this? recommendations on the service company and the equipment needed?

bill

i checked out both cm and cu services and ended up getting the cdma wifi service from cu
because it's supposed to be faster, and in tests, it was just a bit faster.

when i connect, the network is supposedly 230.4 kbps, but in actual use, it's about as good
as 56 k. good enough, barely, to check my email on the road/airport, but impossible for internet
phone calls, online video, and other broadband apps.

maybe someone else has a better experience/service than this?


j

[Bill Lee]

can someone here recommend a national wifi service in china. i'll be mostly in guangzhou, panyu, zh, dg and cp areas. but i might travel outside to bj or sh.

i have been checking out the china mobile and china unicom services and even did a test at a local store in tianhe with someone's computer that just had the wifi service installed but found the speed insufficient for my use.

my use is to attach a www.vonage.com v-phone to my notebook and be able use the internet to make calls back to the states.

i know this setup works in a local spr coffee shop and starbuck coffee shop in guangzhou.

i'll probably use this only for a month in china before heading back home. i'm willing to pay the big bucks so i can maintain communications with my clients back home.

anybody here can help me on this? recommendations on the service company and the equipment needed?

bill

[Santa]

From the Shanghai Daily.

1. Jinjiang Inn. 69 outlets
2. Home Inn. 75
3. Motel 168. 20
4. Hotel Home. 25
5. East Travel. 23
6. Xinyu Inn. 18
7. Super 8. 17
8. Citi Home Hotel. 7
9. Yangtze River Hotel. 13
10. 7 Days Inn. 6

[Santa]

Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person(s) under the age of 18 years.

OAH

I agree that too much has been made of this post by King Dong.

However, this is Jackson's website and it's his rules that count. He has his reasons.

So, I think we should just end this topic and avoid another flame war.

Everybody agree?

[DayNight]

King Dong stirred up flames by asking a while ago:

3. From one of the age of consent charts i got the number 14 for girls having consesual sex with men. Does this also apply to european men and prostituion or what are the differences and what is beeing enforced.

(I am totaly fine with 18-30 year old women and girls, but would like to know the situation anyway)

Honestly, I can't see how that question can be offensive, or how can anyone read out of it that that sex mith minors may be implied. It's a legitimate question of common interest. It's also not THAT relevant what the chinese laws says, because when it comes to sex with minors many countries now have laws to handle offenses out of their juristiction.

BTW, I don't smoke, but I am still interested in anti-smoking laws and how they are applied in different juristiction. Does not mean I wil lstart smoking when the legal situation is favourable.

[Santa]

"No Discussion of Sex with Minors: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person(s) under the age of 18 years. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately."

It does not matter how old you are, what your opinions are on the morality of the issue, what the age of consent is in any country or whether it applies to consensual or P4P. This is not the forum to discuss it.

Just my POV.

OAH

Jackson's rules. So, no more questions, accusations or opinions.