2002-2006 East China - Shanghai

[RajaBetawi]

To shtraveller,

Thanks mate, I will take the offer of phone numbers.

And I promise, as long as my little leg still do the thinking, I will keep this forum informed of my adventures

And yeah,

To Jackson.

Good work mate, I am not forgetting you, it's just there are other things in my mind right now. I am grateful for your forum. Thanks

[Omega]

To Ricky197101, I am leaving for SH in 2 days. Do you mind share Baowen's #? What is her rate? How would you rate her? Thanks! omega3311@yahoo.com

[Dick Boobs]

just wondering whether anybody tried Lily, the only escort yahoo shows for Shanghai. she is quite expensive, but her servises are apparantly worth it if you believe the 2 field reports in captain69.com...

[SHtraveller]

To RajaBetawi,

I would say forget about FIC. I dare to say
it will be not worth it! I checked it myself and for me this FIC is
crap. Like someone else said before it smells like some ripoff.
The girls probably do not know what is done with their photos and they are only for real secretary work.

Raja, I cannot look at you being so desperate!
Give me a private email to shvisitor@gmx.net and I will share some phone numbers with you.
I normally do not do that but I think it is good to have you here, keeping this board alive.
Raja, when in SH try to meet up with some massage girls (hotel) or gals from discos an do not forget to take their phone numbers.

To Jackson:
Great Job. Good to have this board online again! Thanks!

[RajaBetawi]

Anyway, to continue on the report on FunInChina services.

I received an email from them, quote:

Dear Sir,

In that case, my best suggestion could be: do not try our service right now but
keep attention to FunInChina.I'm sure sometime in the future you will get
enough evidence to make the right decision.

Thanks again for your shown interest in our service.

With best wishes,

Joan
FunInChina Team
2002-08-14

endquote.

Well.. thats that.. One more week to go, still no definite result!!


To sum up what I get so far:

- contacted FIC
- received vague answer
- asked FIC on service by phone
- got rip off rate in return
- got refusal email for services.

What more can I expect? What can I do? where can I go?

I am getting desperate, I got only one more week of preparation before the trip. **sigh**

Any suggestions?

[Ricky197101]

To: pussy_hound,

are you sure the gril in Hyatt named Baowen? I happen to know a girl named same name, actually she works in the office building in Hyatt, and she is actually live in Hyatt which is sponsored by her company, How you meet her? I have her mobile, if anybody need, leave your email address.

[Moody]

Originally posted by RajaBetawi
under rates it is USD $350 per hour... WOW!!!

That's INSANE! Unless they're supermodel's, no one gets that kind of money in China. I've only been to Shanghai 3 times in the last 18 months, but I've never paid anything near that amount. I think I stated in a previous post that I usually pay 1000Y for girls I bring back from Karaoke. The 1000Y is for the entire night. I think shtraveller has stated that up to 1200Y is ok. The thing is, if you book through an agency, the girl is sharing your money with a bunch of other people. Everyone has to get their cut. Just deal direct with someone, or go to a Karaoke that someone recommends. You do have to be wary of the scams, but $350 an hour IS a scam.

[RajaBetawi]

Ok its 6.30pm here in sydney, I ring the FIC ppl.

A man answered and speak to me in some chinese, when asked if he spoke english, he switched to fluent albeit heavily accented english.

When told that I am the Raja that emailed and enquired before, he told me that he known of me. He said that he understood my needs and that there is infact some private secretary that would fill them.

When asked for the overall cost however, he deferred and told me to research in the net for the going rate. He refused to give me a http address to find out about this. "...there is web sites advertising the services you need and our fee would be the same" says he.
** aside, as far as I look, there is only one entry under "sex" or "escort" and "shanghai" in Yahoo, it is ChineseLily and under rates it is USD $350 per hour... WOW!!! in Sydney here, I could get half a night with that price. Anybody know the going rate? aside ends**

When asked about which of the PS in their web site does the service, he told me to look into page 2 shanghai, and hints that one of them does. Which one? ".. ahh it is hard to say over the phone or the internet.. just try her for a day, you have not much to loose", says he.

After a few conversation with a few chinese friend I got, yes, I understand that the law in China is much different with the ones we got.

will continue tomorrow, got to go now.

Raja

[RajaBetawi]

Mighty Spearsman, csun213 and shtraveller thank you for your comments and insights.

I think it is easier to phone them direct and talk to them in regards to the services rather than using a public comunication system like the Internet. I will try this tonight and will post my findings here later on.

Wish me luck.

In the mean time, any particular questions I should rise when I ring them? or anybody have suggestion for better approach?

Or better yet, anybody going to shanghai around the 19 - 21 Sept? lets meet and compare notes..

rajabetawi@hotmail.com

[SHtraveller]

I think csun213 is right!

I thought about using FunInChina myself and informed myself about it.
Obviously the girls are regular girls. Why should any of those
girls want to have their pictures posted in the internet.
China IMHO is so conservative to the outside.
None of the girls would ever want their pics to be presented
in the internet offering sex-services.

I guess someone wants to make some cash fooling the girls and us.
Good idea btw...

Thanks for your words, csun213

[Csun213]

To RajaBetawi, be careful with FunInChina. I think if you are looking for a real business service then you will be OK however if you think you are going to get sex then you will be disappointed. I have a Taiwan friend who used their service and gotten no sex.
The service offers a business service. They get their cut for this service. The girls that you hire are expecting to be a business service and not sex service. What happens between you and the girl is up to both of you however you must realize that the girl is a good girl (non-working) therefore the chance of you scoring is the same as you picking up a girl in a department store. If you expect sex then you will be out a lot of money and be very disappointed. The service is a scam, they make you think that you will get sex from the girls however the girls don't know anything about this. The girls think that they are working as a translator, or assistant and not a girlfriend (sex)

[Mighty Spearsman]

Dear "RajaBetawi"

Please realize that ALL Internet traffic in and out of China is monitored by the government, hence FunInChina must be very discreet about what they write in an e-mail or on their web site. In fact, your original "straight to the point" direct approach was a big mistake as it forced them to reply the way that they did - they don't know who you are, you could be a PRC government employee posing as a horny customer to try to shut FunInChina down.

Having said that, you are correct in feeling that there was a hidden message in their second response. Remember, they must be careful in what they write; if they are not careful, they could be shut down. So their second reply was a polite way of saying that as they get to know and trust you (and make money off of you), special services might be available. At least, that's my reading of this situation based on my work experience in China. I have no direct experience with FunInChina, however, and I would appreciate it if someone who does have experience with FunInChina posts their experiences here at WSG.

It is difficult to deal with the sex scene in China, as there are a lot of contradictions - the government likes to pretend that there is no prostitution and little or no HIV/AIDS in China, but that is obviously not true. And masseuses often like to pretend that they are only there to massage you, but they usually can be persuaded to do extras, although it can be hit-or-miss.

Please keep us informed of what happens to you.

[RajaBetawi]

Somebody help me to dechiper this please..

I have emailed FunInChina to enquiry about their services. I quote


"Been browsing on your web site and interested in your service.
However, there are a few items unclear.
What services would the PS provided? I somewhat understand that hints of some intimate room services are provided as well?
This is because I have a very "straight to the point" character, thus I am not apt in negotiating for certain "services"."


In reply, I got a terse email admonishing me for equiring in "harsh" language? and I quote

"...use your common sense, do NOT raise any question offensive to China's law, as we are legitimate business here in China. "

So, I reply and apologize for my choice of words. And their reply is this. I quote

"Obviously you know little about business operaiton in China. Right approach but wrong decision. ".
and
"As private secretary is personalized service, we know you more, we will serve you better."

Well, it seems that to engage their service, you have to know much about business operation in China. Is this not strange? viz. If I know much about anything at all in China, would I be engaging their services?
OR,
Is there a hidden message there that I miss? :0
I am feeling a bit thick lately and may need a kick in the posterior to understand things.

well, enough sobs, if I cannot resolve this problem with FIC, I may have to hunt without them.

wish me luck

[RajaBetawi]

Gday all, been reading your reports a couple of days now. Iiinteresting...... Thanks for the frank apprisal of what going on.

I am going to Shanghai mid September and since I can not "sweet talk" girls (not to mention my ugly oversize look and temporary dyslexia when meeting a girl), I am thinking of engaging the FunInChina service.

Anybody have better suggestion?

[Mistalava]

Blnkname...I saw the South China post first and responded there. Good luck on your trip.