2002-2006 East China - Shanghai

[Gualtier Malde]

Hi,

How does the fact that I don't know any Chinese (not even passable Chinese) affect my ability to communicate with the managers at Saunas? Do they have English Language Menus or English speaking managers etc? Say at Shanghai Hotel, Wisdom, CYLZ, prostrate massage places?

Also, I am not a big fan of FJ. I am a big fan of a great massage and followed by a HJ. And I am staying in the Nanjing Road? Any recommendations on Saunas, etc.

I have read the whole forum (well at least a large portion of it) and I still don't know how to find the more regular saunas which offer nothing more than HJ.

Thanks in advance

I've not found it to be a problem at Shanghai Hotel. You can get away mostly with gestures there anyway. If you follow the detailed directions in post #4772, you'll at least know what's coming next.

If you only want a HJ, probably you should ask for a special foot massage. I'm sure AG or someone can offer up the proper Zhongwei for that. If you get the special foot massage, usually the "special" part is a HJ, not more.

If you are near the Shanghai Hotel, you can go to the foot massage place across the street from the nearby Hilton (very well lit, large and obvious on HuaShan Lu). They do a "special" foot massage, and as far as I know do not offer full service.

David

[Nightwing88]

Hi there. After two years of forced abstinence in the US, Nightwing is back for good in China. Many thanks to all the brothers out there who have contributed to the forum so that I could find my way in town. Special thanks to Sugar Baba and the brothers at the photo gallery who tortured me daily with what I was missing out on while living in the states. Good to see that the spirit of sharing lives on.

So, what did I do? After settling into my place in Pudong, followed the reports on where to monger in Pudong and ended up at Ming Dian Sauna, near the Ba Bai Ban on Zhang Yang Lu and Pudong Nan Dao. Just like the reports said, it is a sauna hidden inside an office building slightly recessed from the street. Walked into the building and was accosted by the elevator man who asked me quite bluntly, "Where you going? ". I responded just as bluntly "To the sauna on the 5th floor", at which point he said nothing and hit the up button. Got to the 5th floor and was impressed by the layout. The lighting was dim and the hallway was dark, but my first impression was that it was a rather clean and comfortable place. I checked in at the desk, they gave me a locker key, and I went inside to take off my clothes. Once again, very nice service. The boys in the room helped to disrobe, and then escorted me into the shower area. I was impressed by the showers and was tempted by the jacuzzi and sauna in the back. However, I quickly showered off, eager to start the festivities.

The boys escorted me into another hallway and brought me to a small room with a couch and a TV and told me to wait there for a little bit while the girls got ready. Girls? This could be interesting! Sat down on the couch and ordered a tea while I flipped the channels on the private TV in the room. I started thinking about how they would do a massage on the couch when someone opens the door and tells me to get out and go to another room to pick. I walk down a long hallway to another room and wow, there's seven girls in skimpy outfits, all beautiful, all smiling at me and all trying to get my attention. A note on these outfits. They were red and black and extremely sexy. I go ahead and pick a young girl from Sichuan province. She leads me to yet another room and then it began.

The service started with a very nice massage on my back, shoulders and legs. Just when I thought nothing was going to happen, she disrobes and starts rubbing my legs, back and shoulders with her breasts. After much oohing and aahing, she switched over to slurping water all over my body. She began to linger more around my bottom, and then I got the most amazing rim job in the world. After about 5 minutes on my backside, she had me get on my hands and knees; then she got on her back and began an amazing blowjob as well. I told her that I didn't want a bare back BJ and she went to get a plastic sandwich bag to place over my pxxxx to suck. I got turned on by that and asked her for another plastic bag so that I could perform DATY on her. She obliged and I had the most amazing time sucking her pxxxx and sticking my fingers into both holes down there. We spent so much time sucking that when it came time to do the deed, I was too eager and came within 5 minutes. Exhausted, we slowed down and she covered me with a towel while she massaged me again.

However, that wasn't all. About 10 minutes into the massage, Junior woke up again, and I asked her if we could do it again. She began to massage my Xiao Didi to full hardness, then proceeded to do a bareback BJ against her breasts. We ended with Xiao Didi in her mouth while I came. After coming twice in one session, I was exhausted and ready to leave. However, she said I had to stay until the full session was over (80 or 90 minutes, I think). So, while she massaged my body, I got her full life story. She grew up in the countryside, went to Shenzhen, got ripped off on a network marketing scam, and needed to make some money. She quickly learned about barbershops and how you could make 50 to 100 RMB on HJ tips from visiting Hong Kong moneys. She did this for a year and claims to have made over 3000 RMB a month on HJs! (I laughed and wondered if these girls could get carpal tunnel from HJs! ). After that, went to Hangzhou, learned the art of full body massage and the life of saunas, then moved to Shanghai this month to work at the sauna. What a life she's led! The session ended, and I left. Cost was 550RMB because I left before 7: 00PM.

Unfortunately, I didn't get the girl's name, number or phone number. However, this is, by far, the nicest sauna I've ever been to in Pudong, and I would highly recommend it. In fact, I did recommend it to my friend who got the two girl option (cost was 950RMB). He also said that it was a mind-blowing experience as well.

So, that's it for my first report since returning to Shanghai. Final thanks to St. Germain. We've PMed each other in the past, and I noticed that two years ago I told you to forget about Pudong. Thanks, Count, for being stubborn and for finding this place. Hope to add to your list very soon!

Nightwing88

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[PimpChimp]

What is the normal price for a REGULAR massage (without tips). I was there and payed 45Y for only footmassage! It was a massage with extra service, but I wanted without!

[Ace Gallant]

Hi,

How does the fact that I don't know any Chinese (not even passable Chinese) affect my ability to communicate with the managers at Saunas? Do they have English Language Menus or English speaking managers etc? Say at Shanghai Hotel, Wisdom, CYLZ, prostrate massage places?

Also, I am not a big fan of FJ. I am a big fan of a great massage and followed by a HJ. And I am staying in the Nanjing Road? Any recommendations on Saunas, etc.

I have read the whole forum (well at least a large portion of it) and I still don't know how to find the more regular saunas which offer nothing more than HJ.

Thanks in advance

I don't think you read the thread or search the thread well enough.

For English speaking only person:

Prostate Massage :

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=6025

Full Service (with or without HJ) Sauna :

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.inf...d.php?p=498684

And for information on Sauna at Shanghai Hotel, there are enough post in the Shanghai thread about it that it does not even qualify for anyone to ask question on whether a non-chinese speaking monger can try that place.

If you are trying to find regular sauna that does not offer extra services (Health Spas) you may be looking at th wrong place. Please read this:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1841

For regular massage you can a whole bunch of them if you do a google search "Spa Shanghai". Here's one:

http://www.bundcenter.com/english/Ba...eSPA/index.htm

Enjoy
AG

[Desi Voyuer]

Hi,

How does the fact that I don't know any Chinese (not even passable Chinese) affect my ability to communicate with the managers at Saunas? Do they have English Language Menus or English speaking managers etc? Say at Shanghai Hotel, Wisdom, CYLZ, prostrate massage places?

Also, I am not a big fan of FJ. I am a big fan of a great massage and followed by a HJ. And I am staying in the Nanjing Road? Any recommendations on Saunas, etc.

I have read the whole forum (well at least a large portion of it) and I still don't know how to find the more regular saunas which offer nothing more than HJ.

Thanks in advance

[Brancaster]

Checked out the second floor sauna at the Shanghai hotel. The famous 4772 post gives very comprehensive instructions, so all I would add is if you don't want a service, say so. They seem to have got good at assuming all laowai would want the works. I was surprised to find a few members of staff with a functional smattering of English. My total cost was something over 900RMB, but for probably one of the top 3 massage experiences of my flight with a very cute 8 from Hunan province. If you are in town, go.

Another night I was lazy and checked out the sauna in the Holiday Inn downtown. Very quiet was the first warning sign. Part way through a 200RMB oil massage I was offered the 'special massage' for another 1200. Even beer and xiao di di were not strong enough to overcome that sort of price. I declined which brough the oil massage to a conclusion about 3 minutes later. Lesson learnt.

[Eaglestar]

Why hit back? If you are stupid enough to get scammed, the only person you should be angry with is the dickhead with too much money!!!

It only shows a greater sense of insecurity and idiocy to want revenge on someone who has outsmarted you.


Cut your losses and chalk it up to experience. Wars only lead to more problems.

I do believe the best revenge is living well. Who gives a fuck about the scum you meet on the road in life, you can just cut them loose and let them drift on to the next sucker.

Cannot add anything that would improve Blacklisted comments.

[Santa]

Why hit back? If you are stupid enough to get scammed, the only person you should be angry with is the dickhead with too much money!!!

It only shows a greater sense of insecurity and idiocy to want revenge on someone who has outsmarted you.


Cut your losses and chalk it up to experience. Wars only lead to more problems.

I do believe the best revenge is living well. Who gives a fuck about the scum you meet on the road in life, you can just cut them loose and let them drift on to the next sucker.

Interesting question and wise reply from two illustrious and lusty gentlemen. Thank you Cebu Local and Blacklisted.

[Blacklisted]

A question though for the mongers here with "guangxi",Do you think it is worth pushing back,When you are scammed??I am personally curiose because I have heard Pros and Cons to a rep for hitting back,One Pro being the girls avoid messing with you,The Con being they avoid you out of fear plus the possibility of revenge by the family.I know this is a Shanghai thread,But I know that some mongers here may have some insights on the matter

Why hit back? If you are stupid enough to get scammed, the only person you should be angry with is the dickhead with too much money!!!

It only shows a greater sense of insecurity and idiocy to want revenge on someone who has outsmarted you.


Cut your losses and chalk it up to experience. Wars only lead to more problems.

I do believe the best revenge is living well. Who gives a fuck about the scum you meet on the road in life, you can just cut them loose and let them drift on to the next sucker.

[Sebastian My]

I am sticking now with one particular girl there (Midy, no. 28) where I know the service is really good.

She is not 100% my type, as she is not so tall, but she has a great body and beautiful long hair - and she speaks English very well.

In my previous posts I said that in most places it is not necessary to speak Chinese.
I still think this is generally true, but you can have more fun if you are able to communicate with your girl.

Especially if you see her more than once, communication helps to build up a 'relationship' that results in better service and more fun.

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that from my point of view it's really worth to have a regular girl, even in a sauna.

But maybe I am just too romantic.

What are your experiences / opinions?

Stay with the same girl or change every time?

Have fun, SJ

Totally agree - once you find someone good - stay with her until you get sick of her. Of course the problem may become - how to i get rid of her? I think some girls think you are their boy friend if you do them more than twice.
As for language - also agree. After living in korea where there is zip english and my korean is not very good - it actually got boring after a while. The talking add spice to the whole experience - of course sometimes all you want is a bonk - talking is unnecessary in those cases.

[Dar425]

Yo Bro's,

This big boy is going to make his 1st visit to Shanghai during Sept 17-19. My plan is to hit some bars, and some BBS. This is a lot of 'B'&'S', which is funny because I'm currently researching for a cure to B.S!

If any of you want to meet up for a beer or show me something that a guy just as to try in Shanghai, let me know. I'd also be interested in getting a little outside of Shanghai to explore some other (hopefully cheaper areas for beer and babes), but don't know if I have quite enough time for that.

Lastly, does anyone have any info about discos/bars in the ZhaBei district of Shanghai? I heard it is mostly local chinese hanging there, but I thought it might be a good place for cheaper drinks; and I guess I like the thrill of going where few blue-eyed beasts have gone before.


Dar

[Ace Gallant]

What even surprises me some more,Is that he "the stupid doctor"did not get some serious payback to that KTV girl.I have a related case,I am familiar with in Zhuhai.Where a Portugese friend of mine was scammed by a girl out of 50,000 Patacas or roughly 51,000 RMB.He went to our common friend in the Party and the girl after a 10,000 RMB donation to the PSB was arrested and sentenced to 20 years in jail.Her life was finished and another less KTV girl is hardly a loss to China.During the trial,the girl was begging to be his personal sex slave for free for him to drop the charges.Occasionaly you have to hit back to keep these girls on their toes.Even up to now,When he mongers in Zhuhai,They are careful of him because they know he has sent a girl to be a guest of the state for 20 years

A question though for the mongers here with "guangxi",Do you think it is worth pushing back,When you are scammed??I am personally curiose because I have heard Pros and Cons to a rep for hitting back,One Pro being the girls avoid messing with you,The Con being they avoid you out of fear plus the possibility of revenge by the family.I know this is a Shanghai thread,But I know that some mongers here may have some insights on the matter

Word of Advise; South China and North East China are far more dangerous place. The people kill over 100RMB. I should say your friend are lucky for hitting even on a less connected girl. Many girls in this trade are some how connected and they will hit back if they want to.

Shanghai, are very "tame" the people here like to speak loud and argue but they will not go into fights. And will have lower possiblities to hit back. However: more than 10% of the Shanghai population are from the South and more than 3% of the population are from the North East China. So..... it always good to have an escape plan!

Enjoy and play safe.
AG

[Ace Gallant]

I am in Shanghai and I must say the scene is very disappointing. I don't like BBS and sauna. I prefer no-hastle bars like Maggi's in Beijing. I checked out Bourbon street, Manhatten (both on Tong Ren Lu and Mao), Blue Angel and everything around it. Absolutely sucks. All the bars around Tong ren Lu have women but their goal is to make you buy drinks. That's all. Moreover, very few are good-looking.

One guy in Manhatten suggested going to Windows. It's an interesting place and gets really packed by 2 am. Directions to Windows: When you come out of Manhatten on Tong Ren Lu, go right. Then take first left, then first right and then first left again. You will see Windows on your left. It's about 10 minutes walk from Manhatten. Here you may find pros and freebies both. All ages.

Met 2 French guys outside Windows and with them went to babyface, Armani, Mint, and VIP. Nothing but bunch of drunk teenagers dancing with music so loud that you can feel the sound waves hitting your body. We came back to Windows.

Finally went to a KTV called WOW club. Same old story- tip mama san, tip the girl, tip the cleaner, tip the taxi driver, eat this eat that and listen the girl singing and asking you to sing. Needless to say that the girl will order everything she can on the menu. Bill was 2100 RMB for 2 hours but atleast got one stunning girl from Hunan. Got her number, tipped mama san and exchanged phone number for that 'afternoon massage'. Will see.

Next day went to Pudong international airport by Meglev running at 430 KM/hr and changed my flight back to Beijing asap. Still have 3 more nights in Shanghai. I guess I will be at Windows. Any other ideas welcome.

Its either you are struck with the worst luck in the world or you are not trying hard enough.

All the places you mentioned are high hit rate places. Although I must agree for a newbie in Tong Ren Lu, the girls will try to scam you as much as possible. However I had my first freebie from Tong Ren Lu on my first trip there. No secret formula or special skills required or lots of money needed to bring a girl home for free. Bourbon street and Park 97, is the place to be for Freebies, Pros, Semi-Pros, and seekers with lonely heart (looking for BF). I lost counts of how many girls (both Pros and Freebies) I had picked up from these places already.

Windows is a cheapstake bar, they sell fake liquor and twice reported before the police had brought two regular pros there in (because of a fights), turn up after some tests that they are both HIV positive. All the girls or local people in Shanghai know that that is a place for Junior local working class or for Cheap Laowais. So if you want to associate yourself as that group of people plus have the risk of been expose to HIV; its your choice.

Enjoy
AG

[Bad Boy Billy]

I am in Shanghai and I must say the scene is very disappointing. I don't like BBS and sauna. I prefer no-hastle bars like Maggi's in Beijing. I checked out Bourbon street, Manhatten (both on Tong Ren Lu and Mao), Blue Angel and everything around it. Absolutely sucks. All the bars around Tong ren Lu have women but their goal is to make you buy drinks. That's all. Moreover, very few are good-looking.

One guy in Manhatten suggested going to Windows. It's an interesting place and gets really packed by 2 am. Directions to Windows: When you come out of Manhatten on Tong Ren Lu, go right. Then take first left, then first right and then first left again. You will see Windows on your left. It's about 10 minutes walk from Manhatten. Here you may find pros and freebies both. All ages.

Met 2 French guys outside Windows and with them went to babyface, Armani, Mint, and VIP. Nothing but bunch of drunk teenagers dancing with music so loud that you can feel the sound waves hitting your body. We came back to Windows.

Finally went to a KTV called WOW club. Same old story- tip mama san, tip the girl, tip the cleaner, tip the taxi driver, eat this eat that and listen the girl singing and asking you to sing. Needless to say that the girl will order everything she can on the menu. Bill was 2100 RMB for 2 hours but atleast got one stunning girl from Hunan. Got her number, tipped mama san and exchanged phone number for that 'afternoon massage'. Will see.

Next day went to Pudong international airport by Meglev running at 430 KM/hr and changed my flight back to Beijing asap. Still have 3 more nights in Shanghai. I guess I will be at Windows. Any other ideas welcome.

Badboy27

I am a little surprised you did not find something at "Bourbon St".

Did you try "Park 97"?

Did you try Luna, Revolution or Paulaner atXin Tian Di?

There are plenty there mate - keep sorting the wheat from the chaff.

[Eaglestar]

She came over again night before last and we had another couple of sessions. Batteries on my digi came died so no action shots, just prelim shower stuff.

Any of you contributing senior members in Shanghai that want her AFF (asiafind.com) handle, PM me. Any position you want, maybe anal but I have not tried it, and reasonably good BBBJCIM.

See previous report # 1031 on Aug 28 for more.

ES