2002-2006 South China - Guangzhou

[China Hunter]

#1216>> There are 2 places in GZ city where can provide HJ and other service. I normally go to Hai Tao Ge sauna at 5/F Li Wan Plaza. 1.5 hrs massage + HJ cost RMB 300. FOC food & drinks. If you want to have the real action, you have to ask for Thai style room (same price) and pay extra RMB 400 to the girl. The place is clean and big. Quite a good choice in downtown area. Another is Deng Feng Hotel nearby Huan Xi East Road. Have not been there since last year so no info for the quality and price.

[Kabukicho]

Any of you gents were around this area when this incident occured? Appears to me like a huge setup.

recent report:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto.../241/5ept7.html

(photo there)

BEIJING (AFP) - Chinese people were up in arms about a three-day orgy allegedly held by a group of Japanese tourists and hundreds of Chinese prostitutes at a hotel in southern China on the anniversary of Japan's occupation of China.

Web surfers called Sunday for a boycott of Japanese goods and newspapers ran flaming editorials about the three-day event which many saw as a deliberate slur on China's pride.

A group of about 400 Japanese men, ranging in age from 37 to 16, flew into the city of Zhuhai, in Guangdong province purely for sex at a hotel that on one of those nights had nearly 500 girls brought to serve them, papers including the Beijing Youth Daily said.

The five-star hotel -- Zhuhai International Convention Center Hotel -- where the orgy, which began on September 16, took place has since been shut down by police.

"We've sent people down to investigate, but we don't have any details yet," a police official at the Guangdong Province Public Security Bureau told AFP.

A hotel staffer said Sunday there were no rooms available.

"We've completely shut down for rectification," a hotel employee said, but refused to comment further.

Media reports said the hotel marketing and sales department, using its contacts in Japan, had organized the group of all-male tourists from Japan to come to Zhuhai.

The hotel's night club 'madame' made contacts with numerous night clubs in the city to prepare a large group of girls for the men.

On the night of September 16, witnesses said the hotel lobby was run amuck with the tourists grabbing and hugging the women, with some men groping the women under their clothes all the way up the elevator ride to their rooms.

Doors to some of the rooms were left ajar and three to four girls could be seen or heard in one room, the Beijing Youth Daily report said.

Asked why they were in Zhuhai, one of the Japanese guests said: "We came to play with Chinese girls!"

The orgy lasted until September 18, the 72nd anniversary of the start of Japan's occupation of northeast China from 1931 to the end of World War II in 1945.

The women were paid 1,200 yuan (144 US dollars) to 1,800 yuan a night.

Interviewed by Chinese media, hotel managers said Japanese tourists regularly came to their hotel for prostitution services -- indicating the date may have been a coincidence.

But Chinese people reading the reports spewed anger on the Internet over what they considered an intentional act to choose the anniversary for their sexual spree to humiliate China.

"Japanese people deep in their bones look down on Chinese people and still there are so many of us who are gleeful at using Japanese products," said one person on the Chinese portal Sina.com's chatroom.

"A bunch of idiots we are!!!"

Others called for a boycott of Japanese goods.

"Don't buy Sony walkmans. Don't buy Guangzhou Honda," one irate netizen wrote.

Still others blamed the Chinese government for not cracking down on prostitution.

Since the news broke, it has generated a strong reaction from readers.

By Sunday afternoon, more than 14,700 comments on the issue had been posted on Sina.com's chatroom, a higher number compared to response on other topics.

Despite increasing trade and contact with Japan and the fact that Japan is China's largest trading partner, many Chinese continue to deeply resent Japan's wartime behavior, and the perception that Japan has not owned up to its wartime history.

Their resentment is fueled by the Chinese government and state-run media's frequent reminders of Japan's wartime atrocities.

Meanwhile, Zhuhai and other cities in the Pearl River delta adjoining Hong Kong have become centers for prostitution drawing girls from more impoverished parts of the country and men from Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan.

Prostitution has become a common phenomenon at Chinese hotels, even five-star establishments, in major cities, with prostitutes openly propositioning guests or calling them in their rooms.

[Mistalava]

#1216...it is interesting that you found action in Nanhai and Panyu. I may stuck in Nanhai for a couple of days -- but it's the nights I am worrying about. Any suggestions?

ffnantes... unfortunately I have never let a legit massage go farther North than my feet. A great foot massage can be had at the Furama hotel (close to the river). On the second floor, as I recall. I have become a junkie for foot massages and the staff here does a great job. (Crappy hotel, though. Not recommended.)

[Member #1216]

I haven't seen much information on Saunas in Guangzhou city. In suburb I know I can find them easily, like Nanhai, Huadu, Panyu. But how about within the city? I know crack down is random and often in GZ, but is there a place that's got strong background and can withstand pretty much everything? It's not impossible, I know in Shanghai, there are such places, like the 5 saunas operated by one famous HK guy (HongKong city is one of them). I know the price is high, like RMB800 for a HJ, but at least the option is there and the place is very high end. If such place exists in GZ, please share! I'm tired of taking taxi rides of 45 minutes each way back and forth between city and suburbs to get a decent oil rub( and a erotic hj experience).

[DJ Nylon Pants]

Thanks HC, excellent info and exactly what I was hoping for.

Can't wait!

[HappyChap]

DJ NP,

Although I am Chinese I was educated only in English. My Mandarin is pretty poor. Although I can say a couple of basic things & understand a bit, it is really close to zero. But I do carry a English - Chinese PDA with me if there is something I desperately want to convey.

First go to the barber shop. Get hold of the mamasan. Use sign language, point to yr hotel name (carry wt you the hotel name & address in English). Use yr watch to tell her how long. And get her to write on paper the price. It somehow works out. It is even fun doing this. Or just go there and get a hair cut & wash and just be friendly & try to learn Chinese.

Once you have the girl with you in the room, it is even easier. Be friendly. I always bring along my laptop PC. I never rush, perhaps I too old for the half hour in and out stuff. Even better if you have some good porn clips to warm her up. Once the lady's engine is hot enough, you are guaranteed good performance all the way.

Of course you get the few that are rushing for the time & money. Hence as a rule, I stick to 2 hrs first. If good, I immediately book for overnight session.

I have tried different parts of China - Shenyang, Hangzhou, Haikou, Pudong etc but Guangzhou still offers competitive rates. The 5 star hotels charge the most !! Always better to go for a 4 to 3 star hotel instead.

[DJ Nylon Pants]

Happy Chap,

Do you speak mandarin?

I lived in Taipei/ Hong Kong (a few trips into Canton mostly weekends to renew the 30 day chop in my HK visa) in '84 for about a year and managed pretty well not speaking the language.

I might be returning for business, GZ this time, and I am curious can the job get done with little or no mandarin?

Advise?

Peace out

[HappyChap]

Dear Folks,

Following Johnny's advice, I managed to get a szechuan girl to Ramada Hotel. Had the greatest time ever. Never had a girl so incredibly hot & natural. Perhaps it's the hot spicy Szechuan food.

After the warm up session, I went for DATY. I always do this just to check out. If a girl has any problems, the smell will show. Smells are the best detection method as you can pick up parts per million of any vaginal infection !!

Anyway, the DATY got her so worked up, she was dripping in juice and moaning to the level of crying out of pleasure. I had to throw her a pillow in order to mute her moaning. We did all positions. She was initiating everything fr doggy to being on top rubbing her pubes on mine continuously. On other occassion, she was rubbing her own clit while I was pumping away. She gave everything she got and so did I. After that both of us just crashed out like we had not slept for a week.

It was a great overnight session - one to remember. If you can push a hot Chinese girl over the critical cracking point, everything will be done for you. And I can confirm that Guangzhou is a great place for such fun.

Thanks a million Johnny.

[Member #4341]

URGENT MESSAGE !!!

Hi to all !

I travel to GZ and will stay in GITIC Riverside Hotel. If anyone could advice me where can i find good looking and young girls (18-23y) for ST or whole night or for any good barber shops or massage place (BBBJ/FS).

Thanks in advance !

[Gallis]

Hi.

I am in GZ in the Hua Wei Da hotel, and will stay here for a couple of nights more. If anyone could advice where I could find barber shops in the area, or a good FS/HJ massage place. I walked around the hotel by foot and found some barber shops but they all looked legit to me (I tried to go in a couple of them but was only offered a hair wash, although there were quite a few girls there). I don't want to bring girls into the hotel because a few of my collegeus are staying here also.
Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

Gallis

PS I do not speak chinese.

[Superforce99]

Old Aussie Guy,

Contact me next time and I hope to show you a few places so you can enjoy your time in GZ!
Couldn't tell from your post, but I hope you had some GZ fun. I don't like it when people don't seem to have a good time here because there's always something for everyone...


Johnny

[Superforce99]

Originally posted by Blue Wolf
...A "friend" also told me there is some barber shops at Canada Garden, at TienHe park, has anybody been there ?

BlueWolf

Always ready to explore some new places so I decided to check out this Canada Garden...

My god, that place is much farther than I thought! About a 15 minute taxi ride from Teem Plaza shopping mall. It's a long way because it's basically a straight road, so 15 minutes of Chinese taxi driver on a straight road is a long ways...

Got to the area about 8pm. It's directly across the street from the Tian He Park (Tian He Gong Yuan). Canada Gardens is one of those housing complex-things out in the middle of nowhere for middle-class/upper-middle class Chinese to live away from more common folks, but the surrounding environment is pretty shoddy in my opinion. I'd rather live in a ratty apartment in the city rather than a better-than-average place way the hell out in the middle of nowhere. But then I guess I wouldn't be able to say I live in "Toronto Tower" or "Calgary Tower"...

There is a sprawl/poor people area right next to the CG, which must be place Blue Wolf described. You can imagine the place as "bordertown" in apprearance and ambience. There are hundreds of farmers/construction workers/poor people mulling about the open-air shopping tract. To make it extra-special, there was electrical black out during my visit, but the really fancy/expensive restaurants and shops had power for some reason, so there was even more of a grimy, dark, desperate feel to the area.

The three barbershops I spotted didn't have power, but that didn't stop the farmers/construction workers from dropping by and taking their girl upstairs! Quality was standard, about 5-7s,
nothing special. I didn't like the idea of hundreds or thousands of farmers/construction workers having gone where I was going, so I decided not to try anything. The predominant language spoken is not quite Mandarin, some kind of dialect, Sichuan maybe or some other nearby province.

Overall, I felt very weird and slightly uncomfortable in this place, ultra-slumming, I guess, and I'm of asian heritage. I really couldn't imagine a non-asian foreigner mongering in this area and you would definately be the first for any of these girls if you did partake (hint, hint OAH...).

Ended up going back to Ramada hotel area and had a regular in shop #1. I don't know what it is, but everytime I have this girl, I get a great BBBJ, almost to CIM, and then I can still screw her 6 ways to Sunday (or perhaps 7?). But with any other girls I can only do one or the other. She always seems impressed after we finish our sex-a-thon sessions, and I want to tell her I don't know who just screwed you, but I wish I could do on demand...

Gotta be lite on details because this new business schedule I have is killing me...hope to find time for more FS and postings (in that order!) soon...

Johnny

[Blue Wolf]

Tatyu,

Most hotels will not have any problem with you bringing a girl home, just walk in like you known her for years or she can walk in by her self, just tell her your room no.

Some Club's/Ktv's have rooms upstairs.

Best hotels with girls are Garden Hotel and China hotel. At Garden hotel there are many bar's nearby to go and look at girls.

Have a nice stay in GZ

BlueWolf

[Old Aussie Guy]

Whatever you do make sure that you do not stay at the White Swan Hotel. Had a conference there last week. Every floor has a chaperone come security guard. One of my friends at the conference couldn't control himself and brought back a girl from one of the Karoke bars (she had only been working there for a month and obviously did not know the risks).

5 minutes after they were in the room he had a call from hotel security. 2 minutes after that two Chinese security guards were banging on his door. Took him another hour to return to the karoke place and get a refund.

Only thing the white swan is good for is american couples picking up their adopted chinese babies - thats it. Its difficult to even get in the elevators in the morning for breakfast through all the strollers and crying infants.

I don't normally post to this forum - but if you guys are ever in Korea. I did read the posts from this section before I went to Guangzhou, but as I had no choice in the accommodations it was pretty much all out of my control.

[Tinybobo1002]

Any suggestion for a safe hotel with excitement? I will go to gz for the first time, so desperate in need of good advice. Thanks.