2002-2006 Bali Reports

[Dirtbird]

This is my first post here, and let me say I appreciate the candor I find herein. I am not so interested in the Sanur ayam axis of the discussion. Instead, having just returned from Bali last month I am absolutely smitten with a woman who works (literally, waitress) at, shall we say, one of the larger and more visible establishments in the Kuta area. Some of you guys are really insightful. One question that lingers in mind is whether a Balinese can actually lie, in the Western sense. As far as I can tell, they simply are not given to introspection and really lack a reference to an objective reality. If you think something, it's more on you than on them, even if it's true. I'd appreciate any input on this, and also would like to hear from anyone who has specifics in this area--that is, can help get the 411 on the situation. Don't want to pursue it if she's actually a pro. Also Dirty Bird, any more photos of that girl?

411 REPLY: I was smitten by a girl in Bali on my first visit there and spent the next few years on a rollercoaster of a relationship, flying back and forth to Indonesia to see her. I was also somewhat dubious at first, she wasn't a Working Girl but she definitely worked it! (see below*)

Although we split up after a few years, I got to know her family very well in that time and she even came over to stay with me for a while and we remain friends today.

For starters! Is your girl Balinese or is she from Java or somewhere and just working/living in Bali?

Balinese girls tend not to be working girls, (Bali is a small place when it comes to local gossip) and for the most part quite shy and naive to western ways. Those who work in busy tourist spots may be a bit more upfront in their manner.

Dating a Balinese girl is a bit like going through an old fashioned courtship, sometimes even with friends acting as chaperones.

The majority of Working Girls in Bali are from Java.

*Those who are not actual WG's i.e. those who have a "boyfriend" for a few weeks until he leaves... they cry... they get over it... they find another one. However for that few weeks a lot of them really do "mean it". They are usually over from Jakarta or Surabaya, working in cafe's etc by day hanging out in bars and disco's with their mates at night looking for a western Mr Right.

Dating a Javanese girl (working in Bali) is like being in a relationship when you were a teenager, higher maintenance but the sex is better.

If she is Javanese be careful of "Jamu" a mix of witchcraft, voodoo, and medicine. Women from Java are supposed to use this to keep their man, and sometimes I have to say I wondered about my ex!

I know I am generalizing here and of course there are exceptions to the rule but if you are absolutely smitten and you want to really make a go of it, then get to meet her family and you will know where she is at. Be it Bali or Java.

As for the lying. Indonesian girls seem to prefer to lie to keep you happy, than be honest if it is going to cause a problem, more so I think than western girls. Its true they seem to have a naive understanding of what is a lie is, but they definitely don't tell the truth all the time. But who does?

P.S. I will see if I can dig out a few more shots of that girl and hopefully add some more when I return to Bali in December.

[JustBlue]

Forget the hard luck storys!

All we need! Is a good net work of good girls and cool place to hang out.If you want a girlfriend. Stop looking! in all the wrong places.There are sum really good girls in Bali and Asia.But remember! They will always put there family first.

I'm only trying to net work a group of fun girls in Bali.Not a wife or girlfriend.

Lets have fun and party. There are other site for find girlfriends and wifes.

Even a few party girls to hang out with, long term and make life in Bali even better.

Thanks guys,

Stay cool.

[Juggernutt]

Prof D, tuff man....but maybe you are lucky?!?
Is your girl a (ex) working girl? Is that the girl on the pic where she was eating tuna?
She is sure pretty enough.But maybe you are lucky that you found out just how mercenary she is. And not to bright...being pregnant and falling for the fake stories tourists come up with.
A guy i know married a "good" girl in bali and has just gotten clened out by her and her family. Luckily he was loaded and could laugh the financial loses off.Not sure about emotional damage though.

Hanqe are you asian? That price is for shorttime, 1 shot? Quality of the girls? Frankly in Kuta area and if you are western or japanese looking....the prices that prof d mentioned is more realistic.
Anyway in Bali you can do a freebie...a 100K babe or all the way to 2.5 million.

Mahku....like your story. Bali is always the best spot to screw these japanese and korean babes. Can i ask how u look? i never got lucky...these babes are after the kuta coboys. So unless u are darkbrown with a surfer look u will have problems. Still with a whole floor of them....you'd have a better success rate i think.

[Juggernutt]

James,

I think if she works as a waitress...at worse she's a freelancer/parttime pro. I mean if u r a pro in bali...these chicks dont need to work overday if they look somewhat decent.

My english is not that good, so I don't really understand your question. Are u asking if indonesians can lie?(Most people working in Bali aren't balinese) If so...yes. They can lie aka not tell the truth. And lying is the same in every culture.

[JustBlue]

I will have photos and names. It will be a great report on my return.It will make life better for the next lot of guys.

I will be in Bali for three months.Im looking for names and girls that are still hard and tits that still stand up.I like dark girls.I will pay 150000 plus tip in sanur and will paid up to 350000 if they are 8+.The girls who make up numbers.Think they are euro and forget the are indo,s. Also trouble and a pain in the ass.Remember they are players and we need to be one step ahead. So dont fall in love and just have fun guys.

My maid get 800000 per mth and she works twice as hard looking after my family.

So lets keep things real and try paying the right price.

[James Fortwright]

This is my first post here, and let me say I appreciate the candor I find herein. I am not so interested in the Sanur ayam axis of the discussion. Instead, having just returned from Bali last month I am absolutely smitten with a woman who works (literally, waitress) at, shall we say, one of the larger and more visible establishments in the Kuta area. Some of you guys are really insightful. One question that lingers in mind is whether a Balinese can actually lie, in the Western sense. As far as I can tell, they simply are not given to introspection and really lack a reference to an objective reality. If you think something, it's more on you than on them, even if it's true. I'd appreciate any input on this, and also would like to hear from anyone who has specifics in this area--that is, can help get the 411 on the situation. Don't want to pursue it if she's actually a pro. Also Dirty Bird, any more photos of that girl?

[JustBlue]

I will be back in bali on the 5th of Novemeber 06.Can any body give me a few names, of day time girls in sanur? I go to diffrent places and they have the same girls.I like the local run X places and find them more relaxing.

I still find sanur more injoyable. Then the girls of the night club seen. Im also a little lazy.thanks for any help!

[ProfDesigner]

The best place at the moment is one referred to as No 29. thats what my driver and others call it. I will try and get a street address to make it easier. The choice is a lot better than most and the girls don't want to just finish and go away. And they so far havent started asking for tips etc before the service. Pricing about 300.000 and that is for a good looking girl not a bushpig. I have always said you get what you pay for, so if I am prepared to pay a little exra for a good looking girl I think it is worthwhile.

[JustBlue]

I only play the sunar seen and the beach game.

Out of ten girls. Six are all about hurry (chapet ) then three are fair and one is good girl.Like the suppory of any help finding good girls in sanur with the help of this site.

Where is the best place in Sanur now?

Thanks guys

[1Ball]

Prof, just read your reports of the latest goings -on in your life, as have been in germany for a few days.
Well fuck me! You and I get shafted the same week, what are the odds?
I am truly sorry for you. With me, it was only money, but your situation is a lot more serious.
We must definitaly hook up next time I am there. Hell, I am only 100m from Santa Fe, we can drag them over from there.
Hope to see you soon.
And keep your chin up.
Oh, and ignore the negative comments.

[Dom Perignon]

Many thanks Templar for the kind words, I have found out since that her friends are really worried about how she has changed in the past three days they are all saying its like voodoo, she is always drunk now and crying all the time but cant go anywhere without this guy. Also her phone her most treasured possession has disappeared, so I am betting that my german friend has made it disappear so she cant get in contact with anyone without him knowing. He leaves on thursday and the crap I am hearing as to what he has promised to do with a girl he has known for 3 days just don't ring true... As I said also the thing I am most upset about is now if she is pregnant (with my child) what is going to happen? I am now just sitting back and waiting too see the outcome.

On the flipside though, I went into MBargo last night and let me tell you a new bunch of girls have arrived in town. Many good lookers so I will try and get some photos so you all know who the players are... at the moment I just cant get back into the saddleat the moment, but we shall see...

Life goes on... Oh and just to finish, I certainly do not need a moralist to come on to this forum to say I am bad so too bad too you, you have no idea of the relationship that I was having and it seems that all you do is always have destructive critism about fellow mongers. This forum is to discuss what we are doing with the girls, how to meet them and how to hopefully score... I suggest you leave this forum and go back to www.forgivethemgod.com as I certainly don't need the sanctimonial crap... apologies Jackson but I had to get that out.

Prof,

You can never trust any of this girl on love and relations.

Are you sure she's pregnant and are you sure that it's your child?

Ildom

[Spank You Too]

Many thanks Templar for the kind words, I have found out since that her friends are really worried about how she has changed in the past three days they are all saying its like voodoo, she is always drunk now and crying all the time but cant go anywhere without this guy. Also her phone her most treasured possession has disappeared, so I am betting that my german friend has made it disappear so she cant get in contact with anyone without him knowing. He leaves on thursday and the crap I am hearing as to what he has promised to do with a girl he has known for 3 days just don't ring true... As I said also the thing I am most upset about is now if she is pregnant (with my child) what is going to happen? I am now just sitting back and waiting too see the outcome.

On the flipside though, I went into MBargo last night and let me tell you a new bunch of girls have arrived in town. Many good lookers so I will try and get some photos so you all know who the players are... at the moment I just cant get back into the saddleat the moment, but we shall see...

Life goes on... Oh and just to finish, I certainly do not need a moralist to come on to this forum to say I am bad so too bad too you, you have no idea of the relationship that I was having and it seems that all you do is always have destructive critism about fellow mongers. This forum is to discuss what we are doing with the girls, how to meet them and how to hopefully score... I suggest you leave this forum and go back to www.forgivethemgod.com as I certainly don't need the sanctimonial crap... apologies Jackson but I had to get that out.

I agree with you 100% prof! We are here to support you in your time of need. Gee, I hope you sort things out. Will you have to pay matinence to ur child if she has it?

I arrive on the 8th arvo so if your interested in catching up for a drink 8th night then give us a line. You have my email addy.

I hope it works out mate, I feel for you as I have been through the same thing.

[Euroasian]

I'm not religious at all, I only believe in Karma, so that means I believe that people get what they deserved at the end, it can be good … it can be bad...

I’m not really sure what I should be looking in www.forgivethemgod.com ... seems like you know more about this things then I do…maybe you should check this out again to help you from your sorrows.

And you said in your own words…”this forum is to discuss what we are doing with the girls, how to meet them and how to hopefully score”...so it is not to tell people how sad you are because your girlfriend has left you and accusing another fellow monger ON THIS SITE for being the reason of your brake up.

I also apologies to Jackson but I think I’m not being unreasonable, just defending what has been said.

Life goes on... Oh and just to finish, I certainly do not need a moralist to come on to this forum to say I am bad so too bad too you, you have no idea of the relationship that I was having and it seems that all you do is always have destructive critism about fellow mongers. This forum is to discuss what we are doing with the girls, how to meet them and how to hopefully score... I suggest you leave this forum and go back to www.forgivethemgod.com as I certainly don't need the sanctimonial crap... apologies Jackson but I had to get that out.

[ProfDesigner]

Many thanks Templar for the kind words, I have found out since that her friends are really worried about how she has changed in the past three days they are all saying its like voodoo, she is always drunk now and crying all the time but cant go anywhere without this guy. Also her phone her most treasured possession has disappeared, so I am betting that my german friend has made it disappear so she cant get in contact with anyone without him knowing. He leaves on thursday and the crap I am hearing as to what he has promised to do with a girl he has known for 3 days just don't ring true... As I said also the thing I am most upset about is now if she is pregnant (with my child) what is going to happen? I am now just sitting back and waiting too see the outcome.

On the flipside though, I went into MBargo last night and let me tell you a new bunch of girls have arrived in town. Many good lookers so I will try and get some photos so you all know who the players are... at the moment I just cant get back into the saddleat the moment, but we shall see...

Life goes on... Oh and just to finish, I certainly do not need a moralist to come on to this forum to say I am bad so too bad too you, you have no idea of the relationship that I was having and it seems that all you do is always have destructive critism about fellow mongers. This forum is to discuss what we are doing with the girls, how to meet them and how to hopefully score... I suggest you leave this forum and go back to www.forgivethemgod.com as I certainly don't need the sanctimonial crap... apologies Jackson but I had to get that out.

[Hanqe]

I am sure you were overcharged in Sanur. I have stayed in Sanur twice/year since 1998 and can tell that "normal" today is rp 100.000 for a room and rp 100.000 directly to the girl. (You can pay less if you go where the local young men go). If the hotel owner wants pay for "everyting" in advance - give him rp 150.000 and then tip the girl rp 50.000. All "short time" of course. Sometimes you have to negotiate to get these conditions, but you will surely succeed next time. rp 100.000 is abt US $ 14:-
Good luck and have fun!
Hanqe

I just came back from Bali, and must say I was disappointed with the action. I went to Bounty and the other places where women hang out, and they were either not my type or non-existent.

Anyway, I was around Kuta when a guy says he can get me a woman for 350,000 rupiah. So he takes me on a long scooter ride to Sanur, and then lets me check from more than 20 chicks. I pick this young one with a nice rack, and I'm told it's gonna be a massage plus fuck. I pay 350,000 rupiah, then her pimp asks me if I want a drink. He comes back and I get charged 20,000 rupiah for the drinks (I though they were free). I do my thing but the girl complains my johnson is too big, though her blowjob attempt was commendable. I blow my load with me on top and it's over after just 15 minutes.

I tip her 50,000 rupiah, and she asks for more. I feign not understanding her and she just leaves it at that.

I'd say getting a chick all night for UNDER 500,000 rupiah is pretty hard unless she's a buck fugly mutant. I think it's safe to say Bali isn't the best for getting tail in Southeast Asia.