2002-2006 South China - Dongguan Reports

[TheMan134]

Dear Fellow Bros,

My friend came into a bit of a difficult predicament. Well to be honest, he put himself in this current twisted situation. My friend ended up heal over heals for this one BBS girl in Changping. She claims that she has only been working there from a factory for no more than 2 weeks. She claims that she doesn't like doing what she's doing, but only doing it for a yougner sister to go to college, and helping her parents out of their current rice planting job.

But basically, she has the whole package, tight body, only 18 years of age. She's got a size C rack, with slender waist and killer ass and legs. She seems genuine enough that my friend wanted to have her "kept"

My friend took her to places, like shenzhen, some weird scenic pond in Dongguan, basically tried to romance her. He even forked up money to her up front for her to stop working at the BBS, a total amount of 2000 RMB i think. When it came to the big question of whether or not she wanted to be kept, she rejected my friend. Even when my friend was willing to give her a sizeable amount of money per month she had rejected the offer. She appeared sincere in her actions, not wanting to appear like a golddigger. I saw her briefly, when they were eating a the Kaiyinge restaurant the other day.

Her response to not wanting to be kept was the following:

1. he's based out in North America (Even though i told him never to tell a girl u live too far)
2. She thinks he's too well off, and questions why anyone would want a BBS girl
3. She feels she's embarassed that he knows she's been stuffed by so many guys. (but 2 weeks isn't that long)

In addition, she had gone out to a 2 day trip to Shenzhen with my friend, and at the end of their departing, he had fofered to pay her 1600 RMB for the two days spent with him and she refused to accept the money

My friend needs advice, cause i've given him all the advice I could give. He's just bothered as to why she doeesn't want to be kept, since she wouldn't have to be doing what she's doing now. In addition, he wanted to know if she's sincere or not, what girl doesn't wnat money? I helped him call her mommie recently, and her mommie said that she's feeling sick and she hasn't been working. So he still can't get over her. From all of the bros on this board i'm askin' for your widsom and advice and or analysis, what's the advice you can all give?

Tell your friend it may not be worth this. This is from personal experince. I fell in love with a BBS girl I meet last year. spend only 3 nights with her. and she got my heart. I gave her 5000RMB after the first 3 days. I saw her again last month when I went back to Shenzhen for vacation I am also in the US. I spent a week with her this time and gave her 50000RMB. tell your friend I do not miss the money but the emotional stress alone can break a man. I have a wife and kids in US. so make sure he knows what he is in for. the feeling of wanting to call her on the phone. worried is she seeing other men. and the idea going back to china ASAP to be with her. I wish I knew this last year and stop it then but now I am in too deep with her and can not.

[Old Mean Dog]

Dear Fellow Bros,

My friend came into a bit of a difficult predicament. Well to be honest, he put himself in this current twisted situation. My friend ended up heal over heals for this one BBS girl in Changping. She claims that she has only been working there from a factory for no more than 2 weeks. She claims that she doesn't like doing what she's doing, but only doing it for a yougner sister to go to college, and helping her parents out of their current rice planting job.

But basically, she has the whole package, tight body, only 18 years of age. She's got a size C rack, with slender waist and killer ass and legs. She seems genuine enough that my friend wanted to have her "kept"

My friend took her to places, like shenzhen, some weird scenic pond in Dongguan, basically tried to romance her. He even forked up money to her up front for her to stop working at the BBS, a total amount of 2000 RMB i think. When it came to the big question of whether or not she wanted to be kept, she rejected my friend. Even when my friend was willing to give her a sizeable amount of money per month she had rejected the offer. She appeared sincere in her actions, not wanting to appear like a golddigger. I saw her briefly, when they were eating a the Kaiyinge restaurant the other day.

Her response to not wanting to be kept was the following:

1. He's based out in North America (Even though I told him never to tell a girl u live too far)
2. She thinks he's too well off, and questions why anyone would want a BBS girl
3. She feels she's embarassed that he knows she's been stuffed by so many guys. (but 2 weeks isn't that long)

In addition, she had gone out to a 2 day trip to Shenzhen with my friend, and at the end of their departing, he had fofered to pay her 1600 RMB for the two days spent with him and she refused to accept the money

My friend needs advice, cause i've given him all the advice I could give. He's just bothered as to why she doeesn't want to be kept, since she wouldn't have to be doing what she's doing now. In addition, he wanted to know if she's sincere or not, what girl doesn't wnat money? I helped him call her mommie recently, and her mommie said that she's feeling sick and she hasn't been working. So he still can't get over her. From all of the bros on this board i'm askin' for your widsom and advice and or analysis, what's the advice you can all give?

Funny you should mention this, my buddy brought one back from CP and is in the process of re-programming her. She is fresh and not so corrupted by the life yet so, I think this one has possibility. Though it seems like an expensive experiment that could lead to heartbreak for him, you never really know until you try.

SZE

[Loso69]

What's the verdict on laowai?

Hong Kong guys, There are both cheap and stupid guys. The cheap Hong Kong guys are those who ended up in the main dance hall of the KTVs or the early "birds" of the BBS.

Taiwanese are far most the cheapest guys.

Foreign Chinese: They are the smart guys who pay as little as possible but want to get the most out of it. However if they "capture" their hearts or fully satisfied them, they do not mind giving a big tip!

Japanese: The big suckers (as compare to the big spenders) It is easy for the girls to get easy money out of them especially when they are drunk. They may bring them back but ended up sleep though without even touching them. Or if they did them, they will cum quick but still pay full price for LT but ask them to leave after one pop.

Koreans: Another big spender but most prefer GFE girls. They prefer more on spending the night with the girls rather than doing them. They did say also that some Koreans who works in China are slightly different. How much different? They did say?

Singaporean / Malaysians : They are usually the not so adventurous type, they do not mind paying but once if they felt that they had been scam, they will never return.

POV: Everyone may have the potential of been big spenders, as long as they are drunk!

AG

[Ace Gallant]

Dear Fellow Bros,

My friend came into a bit of a difficult predicament. Well to be honest, he put himself in this current twisted situation. My friend ended up heal over heals for this one BBS girl in Changping. She claims that she has only been working there from a factory for no more than 2 weeks. She claims that she doesn't like doing what she's doing, but only doing it for a yougner sister to go to college, and helping her parents out of their current rice planting job.

But basically, she has the whole package, tight body, only 18 years of age. She's got a size C rack, with slender waist and killer ass and legs. She seems genuine enough that my friend wanted to have her "kept"

My friend took her to places, like shenzhen, some weird scenic pond in Dongguan, basically tried to romance her. He even forked up money to her up front for her to stop working at the BBS, a total amount of 2000 RMB i think. When it came to the big question of whether or not she wanted to be kept, she rejected my friend. Even when my friend was willing to give her a sizeable amount of money per month she had rejected the offer. She appeared sincere in her actions, not wanting to appear like a golddigger. I saw her briefly, when they were eating a the Kaiyinge restaurant the other day.

Her response to not wanting to be kept was the following:

1. he's based out in North America (Even though i told him never to tell a girl u live too far)
2. She thinks he's too well off, and questions why anyone would want a BBS girl
3. She feels she's embarassed that he knows she's been stuffed by so many guys. (but 2 weeks isn't that long)

In addition, she had gone out to a 2 day trip to Shenzhen with my friend, and at the end of their departing, he had fofered to pay her 1600 RMB for the two days spent with him and she refused to accept the money

My friend needs advice, cause i've given him all the advice I could give. He's just bothered as to why she doeesn't want to be kept, since she wouldn't have to be doing what she's doing now. In addition, he wanted to know if she's sincere or not, what girl doesn't wnat money? I helped him call her mommie recently, and her mommie said that she's feeling sick and she hasn't been working. So he still can't get over her. From all of the bros on this board i'm askin' for your widsom and advice and or analysis, what's the advice you can all give?

If you have time; go over to Shanghai threads or Reports of Distinction and read my rules of getting and keeping freebies.

In CP I had heard the same story many time before and it has come to a point where I could tell them their story before they even open their mouth. I am not saying that all of them are BS but I do believe that 75% of these girls are just sharing the same story from the same source.

In one of my recent post, I did also mentioned; Even if you keep a regular GF or "mistress" in CP but you do not live in CP, so what? They are likely to end up in BBS or KTV while you are not around. Yesterday while at the BBS in CP my regular mama came to me and pointed to me 3 of this "Private Dishes" (Some suckers' Mistress) who are temporary working in her BBS while their Suger daddy are away.

So do yourself a favor... Sorry I meant do your friend a favor, advice him, give it up or just go all the way out and bring her back home to USA.

This is what I feel: A lots of guys started out with the thoughts that it is easy to keep a GF or Mistress in CP by spending a little money here and there. But after a few weeks or months, they sinks deeper into the investment, became impatience having the fact that the girl is smarter than he thought and started thinking of getting back what is worth. That is the situation your friend is in right now.

My Advice: Bail out before he sinks a further!

Freebies, Regular GF or Mistress: Unless you have time and of course the skills to play with them. You cannot out smart them. Money alone does not matter here. I had not mention more than enough times on this board: "In the world of Mongering, Money and looks alone does not count, in fact sometimes it works the opposite".

Good luck to your friend and I hope he does not sinks further!
AG

[Cebu Local]

Asn Dragon,

It should seem obvious, but this is the correct, and only, way to approach this:


1. Force your friend and this girl to watch the movie "Pretty Woman" several times

2. Put your friend and this girl on a boat and send it out to the middle of that "weird scenic pond in Dongguan"

3. Set it on fire and watch the charred wreckage sink to the bottom of the lake

4. Bask in the gushy feeling that you've made the world a better place.


Now aren't you glad you came to the best people in the world for advice?

J

Johnny Thats a good one and a lot cheaper on the wallet.BUT Its always fun to watch reprogrammed KTV girls I Love their sense of Style.Very Entertaining to see them trying to be fashionable.I recently saw one in boots,leotards,racing jacket,golf cap in a GOLF CLUB SOCIAL.She was trying for a sporty look

[Superforce99]

Asn Dragon,

It should seem obvious, but this is the correct, and only, way to approach this is to follow these
simple steps:


1. Force your friend and this girl to watch the movie "Pretty Woman" several times

2. Put your friend and this girl on a boat and send it out to the middle of that "weird scenic pond in Dongguan"

3. Set it on fire and watch the charred wreckage sink to the bottom of the lake

4. Bask in the gushy feeling that you've made the world a better place.


Now aren't you glad you came to the best people in the world for advice?

J

[Cebu Local]

Dear Fellow Bros,

My friend came into a bit of a difficult predicament. Well to be honest, he put himself in this current twisted situation. My friend ended up heal over heals for this one BBS girl in Changping. She claims that she has only been working there from a factory for no more than 2 weeks. She claims that she doesn't like doing what she's doing, but only doing it for a yougner sister to go to college, and helping her parents out of their current rice planting job.

But basically, she has the whole package, tight body, only 18 years of age. She's got a size C rack, with slender waist and killer ass and legs. She seems genuine enough that my friend wanted to have her "kept"

My friend took her to places, like shenzhen, some weird scenic pond in Dongguan, basically tried to romance her. He even forked up money to her up front for her to stop working at the BBS, a total amount of 2000 RMB i think. When it came to the big question of whether or not she wanted to be kept, she rejected my friend. Even when my friend was willing to give her a sizeable amount of money per month she had rejected the offer. She appeared sincere in her actions, not wanting to appear like a golddigger. I saw her briefly, when they were eating a the Kaiyinge restaurant the other day.

Her response to not wanting to be kept was the following:

1. he's based out in North America (Even though i told him never to tell a girl u live too far)
2. She thinks he's too well off, and questions why anyone would want a BBS girl
3. She feels she's embarassed that he knows she's been stuffed by so many guys. (but 2 weeks isn't that long)

In addition, she had gone out to a 2 day trip to Shenzhen with my friend, and at the end of their departing, he had fofered to pay her 1600 RMB for the two days spent with him and she refused to accept the money

My friend needs advice, cause i've given him all the advice I could give. He's just bothered as to why she doeesn't want to be kept, since she wouldn't have to be doing what she's doing now. In addition, he wanted to know if she's sincere or not, what girl doesn't wnat money? I helped him call her mommie recently, and her mommie said that she's feeling sick and she hasn't been working. So he still can't get over her. From all of the bros on this board i'm askin' for your widsom and advice and or analysis, what's the advice you can all give?

I have a Filipino Chinese Friend who Re-Programmed a KTV girl,So based on What he did .I will take a stab at it.First rather then make her lose face by asking her to be a mistress,He offered to educate her and support her while She studied.He put her into school while paying for an apartment and living expenses.He was banging her in exchange off course,Being busy in school got her out of the KTV crowd and into a different group of friends.Eventually She will finish,Like my friend then helped her set up a small trading business,Buying goods in China and selling them elsewhere.This built up her self confidence and self respect.He has been with her for 5 years now with her as his mistress and they are doing fine.The question is your friend willing to spend the time and money to reprogram a BBS girl

[Sinnatic]

I guess your friend is falling in love with someone he shouldn't have. If the girl isn't after your money, she is either in love or she is looking for something more long term. Honestly, 2000 RMB + 1600 RMB is not going to help her much. If she has such a nice package, I am sure she can get that in one day working in HK, or a few weeks in the KTV.

I have similar experience of falling in love with a girl I shouldn't have. It is hard to let go, but then your friend needs to plan an exit strategy in case things turn ugly. Quite frankly, there is no way he will marry this girl. So just tell him to have the fun for now and when things start to change (either a new girl shows up or she appears to be not as enthusiastic), leave.

Dear Fellow Bros,

My friend came into a bit of a difficult predicament. Well to be honest, he put himself in this current twisted situation. My friend ended up heal over heals for this one BBS girl in Changping. She claims that she has only been working there from a factory for no more than 2 weeks. She claims that she doesn't like doing what she's doing, but only doing it for a yougner sister to go to college, and helping her parents out of their current rice planting job.

But basically, she has the whole package, tight body, only 18 years of age. She's got a size C rack, with slender waist and killer ass and legs. She seems genuine enough that my friend wanted to have her "kept"

My friend took her to places, like shenzhen, some weird scenic pond in Dongguan, basically tried to romance her. He even forked up money to her up front for her to stop working at the BBS, a total amount of 2000 RMB i think. When it came to the big question of whether or not she wanted to be kept, she rejected my friend. Even when my friend was willing to give her a sizeable amount of money per month she had rejected the offer. She appeared sincere in her actions, not wanting to appear like a golddigger. I saw her briefly, when they were eating a the Kaiyinge restaurant the other day.

Her response to not wanting to be kept was the following:

1. he's based out in North America (Even though i told him never to tell a girl u live too far)
2. She thinks he's too well off, and questions why anyone would want a BBS girl
3. She feels she's embarassed that he knows she's been stuffed by so many guys. (but 2 weeks isn't that long)

In addition, she had gone out to a 2 day trip to Shenzhen with my friend, and at the end of their departing, he had fofered to pay her 1600 RMB for the two days spent with him and she refused to accept the money

My friend needs advice, cause i've given him all the advice I could give. He's just bothered as to why she doeesn't want to be kept, since she wouldn't have to be doing what she's doing now. In addition, he wanted to know if she's sincere or not, what girl doesn't wnat money? I helped him call her mommie recently, and her mommie said that she's feeling sick and she hasn't been working. So he still can't get over her. From all of the bros on this board i'm askin' for your widsom and advice and or analysis, what's the advice you can all give?

[Asn Dragon]

Dear Fellow Bros,

My friend came into a bit of a difficult predicament. Well to be honest, he put himself in this current twisted situation. My friend ended up heal over heals for this one BBS girl in Changping. She claims that she has only been working there from a factory for no more than 2 weeks. She claims that she doesn't like doing what she's doing, but only doing it for a yougner sister to go to college, and helping her parents out of their current rice planting job.

But basically, she has the whole package, tight body, only 18 years of age. She's got a size C rack, with slender waist and killer ass and legs. She seems genuine enough that my friend wanted to have her "kept"

My friend took her to places, like shenzhen, some weird scenic pond in Dongguan, basically tried to romance her. He even forked up money to her up front for her to stop working at the BBS, a total amount of 2000 RMB i think. When it came to the big question of whether or not she wanted to be kept, she rejected my friend. Even when my friend was willing to give her a sizeable amount of money per month she had rejected the offer. She appeared sincere in her actions, not wanting to appear like a golddigger. I saw her briefly, when they were eating a the Kaiyinge restaurant the other day.

Her response to not wanting to be kept was the following:

1. he's based out in North America (Even though i told him never to tell a girl u live too far)
2. She thinks he's too well off, and questions why anyone would want a BBS girl
3. She feels she's embarassed that he knows she's been stuffed by so many guys. (but 2 weeks isn't that long)

In addition, she had gone out to a 2 day trip to Shenzhen with my friend, and at the end of their departing, he had fofered to pay her 1600 RMB for the two days spent with him and she refused to accept the money

My friend needs advice, cause i've given him all the advice I could give. He's just bothered as to why she doeesn't want to be kept, since she wouldn't have to be doing what she's doing now. In addition, he wanted to know if she's sincere or not, what girl doesn't wnat money? I helped him call her mommie recently, and her mommie said that she's feeling sick and she hasn't been working. So he still can't get over her. From all of the bros on this board i'm askin' for your widsom and advice and or analysis, what's the advice you can all give?

[Blacklisted]

Oh yeah, a lot of the girls also seem to think that Korean guys are "bian tai."

No wonder I seem to have a few Korean friends lately!

Feel sorry for those who are not 'bian tai', although thankfully, they are few, which means AG can always ask the mama to bring them to me...

Whoo hoo hoo hooo ha ha h ahaaaaaa!!!!!

[Transporter]

I guess I should start to explore other alternatives in DG. I really like the take-out set-up in CP. I am not much of a KTV or sauna fan. Transporter mentioned one place about 40 minutes from CP called Chang San or something like that. Any other suggestions?

OAH

Chang Jiang

I'll try and do a report later...right now I am just so beat.

Oh yeah and Chang An is a great place also, and even closer only 20 minutes away.

[Ace Gallant]

Man, I know some Koreans... and you are 100% right about that!!! As for the Koreans working in China, the girls say they're all "paio ke." The Koreans who come for only a short time all stick to one or two girls. They also buy them gifts, take them out during the daytime, and give them extra money. Contrast that to the ones who work in China. Those guys never tip extra, never buy gifts, and send them home after ST. AG knows what guys I'm talking about....

Oh yeah, a lot of the girls also seem to think that Korean guys are "bian tai."

Let this be the rule for mongers from the board. Never over pay them or over tips them. It not only spoilt the market but also invite unnecessary gossips behind your back that you are a “Big Sucker!” I am sure nobody likes to be called a sucker!

Moody, yes, we are talking about the same guy we both know. However I am only referring to those Non-localized Foreigners that do not RTFF or are just plain show-offs.

Here is a portion which I like to add though; there are another type of mongers who just buy little gifts or give a little tips to the girls they like; this type of mongers are usually working on getting them as freebies, which I do admit it a tactic that works! This little gifts or tip can be as cheap as 100RMB, it never fails to get to sweet smile from the girls. I dare to admit that I am “guilty” of this act myself. But as I said many time before: “There are no true Freebies in China, it is you pay them now or you pay them later, the difference is how much are you paying?”

Enjoy!
AG

Oh by the way Moody: its: "Piao Ke"

[Moody]

Koreans: Another big spender but most prefer GFE girls. They prefer more on spending the night with the girls rather than doing them. They did say also that some Koreans who works in China are slightly different. How much different? They did say?

AG

Man, I know some Koreans... and you are 100% right about that!!! As for the Koreans working in China, the girls say they're all "paio ke." The Koreans who come for only a short time all stick to one or two girls. They also buy them gifts, take them out during the daytime, and give them extra money. Contrast that to the ones who work in China. Those guys never tip extra, never buy gifts, and send them home after ST. AG knows what guys I'm talking about....

Oh yeah, a lot of the girls also seem to think that Korean guys are "bian tai."

[Moody]

...So in fact, they are not big spenders. They Only seems to be. Because they are in China.

You very well may be right. The fact of the matter is though, that many Chinese consider them to be big spenders, even though they might in fact, be spending less than they normally would in their home countries. BTW, wouldn't spending $1000 or more (typically $3000+ for 4 guys) on an evening of drinking be considered big spending?? I know a lot of guys here in the US who wouldn't even dream of doing such a thing.....

[Ace Gallant]

From my point of view. Chinese, Japanese &Koreans are all of them big spenders. Because they are in China. (not matter if they are from home country or living aboard)

Their nightlife culture (I mean adult male) is around KTV more than Pub, beer house or nightclubs. So when they visit China, they continue with their preference (KTV), By the way, West countries have Incall/outcall.

But why they are big spenders in China? In Japan, singapore, Taiwan, Korea etc. KTV is expensive. You need at least US$ 1, 000 to go there, drink, have female companion, and have fun. If you want to bring the girl with you. You need another extra US$ 300 400 (Only if the girl agree to go with you). In Japan, it is usual, that a customer go regularly to a Karaoke club, just to try to get out a girl. Someday. Spending a lot of money in Club

But in China. You need maybe RMB 1, 000 for the club + RMB 1, 000 for the girl (nightlong), so it means US$ 250. Not a big money compared with the amount they need to have same fun in their country.

So in fact, they are not big spenders. They Only seems to be. Because they are in China.

You want to hear from the girls point of view? I always pretended that I do not understand their native dialect and listern into what they say or sometimes I just ask the girls, I had brought back, directly this questions.

Their views:

Hong Kong guys, There are both cheap and stupid guys. The cheap Hong Kong guys are those who ended up in the main dance hall of the KTVs or the early "birds" of the BBS.

Taiwanese are far most the cheapest guys.

Foreign Chinese: They are the smart guys who pay as little as possible but want to get the most out of it. However if they "capture" their hearts or fully satisfied them, they do not mind giving a big tip!

Japanese: The big suckers (as compare to the big spenders) It is easy for the girls to get easy money out of them especially when they are drunk. They may bring them back but ended up sleep though without even touching them. Or if they did them, they will cum quick but still pay full price for LT but ask them to leave after one pop.

Koreans: Another big spender but most prefer GFE girls. They prefer more on spending the night with the girls rather than doing them. They did say also that some Koreans who works in China are slightly different. How much different? They did say?

Singaporean / Malaysians : They are usually the not so adventurous type, they do not mind paying but once if they felt that they had been scam, they will never return.

POV: Everyone may have the potential of been big spenders, as long as they are drunk!

AG